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1  Economy / Reputation / Re: Evidence of alias (u=1764044) long con scam! on: March 06, 2018, 02:20:14 AM
I made a bit but gave most of it to the investors... obviously. The end goal is to make investors happy. And no, a friend of mine from Discord depo'd 1k bits.

And you promptly lost that too. Good thing you have that magic script and can get back up in no time.

Fascinating tale.

I don't use scripts on personal funds. Period. Fifth time.


Also, this will be the last post I'll make from this account for the forseeable future. Let it be known that I paid out investors $5k+ and refunded $2k to a scammer, money that was rightfully mine. Let it be known that all the haters simply make "long con" allegations that are completely unfounded. I am glad that I was able to give money to the community. I wanted to help more, but the haters shut me down too fast. Good luck and good bye.
2  Economy / Reputation / Re: Evidence of alias (u=1764044) long con scam! on: March 06, 2018, 02:08:47 AM
Script is profitable but there is always a risk. I don't take 10% risks.

Yes, I was only using faucet funds, but someone in the BaB chat tipped me 100 bits. (Check the chat history)

But it's ok to take that risk with "investor" funds? Were they aware of that? Who are those large investors you mentioned and why did they bail? How come you didn't make any profits from those investors and have to resort to begging now?

And did someone tip you 1000 bits too?

[img=http://600]https://i.snag.gy/S6wmJy.jpg[/img]

I made a bit but gave most of it to the investors... obviously. The end goal is to make investors happy. And no, a friend of mine from Discord depo'd 1k bits.
3  Economy / Reputation / Re: Evidence of alias (u=1764044) long con scam! on: March 06, 2018, 02:07:21 AM
I paid out a lot. Almost $5k. Say what you will about that

Yeah, without checking with each of your "winners", for the sake of argument I accepted that you did pay out.
Seeing as the "script" has been proven not to exist/work, the question was 'Why?'
Pro Tip: don't bother to answer that.

No, that's the thing. The only thing that was "proven" was that no script can be profitable in the long run.

So you don't consider that the thread you just closed proves that the script doesn't work in any time period? It was just having an off day?
Define the period over which you think it does work.
Define "long run".

Quote
For me, the script works. Maybe I was just lucky.

So, you were "lucky" when no-one was looking, unlucky when they did?




The script was making profit... until I posted that I will stop using the script, and just began yolo betting for fun. Any bets I make from then on say nothing about my script.
4  Economy / Reputation / Re: Evidence of alias (u=1764044) long con scam! on: March 06, 2018, 01:58:05 AM
For the third time... I'm not using the script. Are you braindead? And, nice cherrypicking. Try sending the link so people can watch in realtime Wink

Ad hominems get us nowheere

There is nothing to cherry pick. You're failing bigly and you don't have a winning script, that much is obvious.

Link: https://www.bustabit.com/user/makealiagreatagain


For the fourth time, I'm not using the script. I never use it on my own funds, plain and simple. You really are dense...

So... you lied when you said you were broke? And you lied about gambling only from faucet? And you lied about the script being profitable, otherwise what's the point of pissing away your own funds and not using it? Let me know if I missed any lies, it's getting really confusing.

Script is profitable but there is always a risk. I don't take 10% risks.

Yes, I was only using faucet funds, but someone in the BaB chat tipped me 100 bits. (Check the chat history)
5  Economy / Reputation / Re: Evidence of alias (u=1764044) long con scam! on: March 06, 2018, 01:57:19 AM
Hi all,

tmfp just told me about this conversation.. I didnt know that there is something shady going on? Honestly, I am just confused.
They asked me to describe the circumstances of my winnings, so here is my account.

I saw alia's post advertising this script, and I treated it with skepticism. I saw a few others post that they received some bonuses out of alia's scrip, so I thought of giving it a go. I messaged them through skype, they gave me a deposit address, and they gave me the money back with a bonus after they stated the script was done. Started with a 100 dollars, they gave me a bonus. I then went with slightly higher amounts and it did not seem to be a big deal, as they gave me active returns.

I did not, however, see the user gambling. Nor camming. I gave them a deposit to an address, and a short time later (from 15min to an hour and a half) they gave me a larger amount back.  I didnt see a script working, just saw a result. I dont know how gambling scripts work, so I thought I got lucky.

I mean, i gave her .25 and she returned .275, although it isnt alot of money, she still gave it.
The only weird part about her conversation was that she was trying to consistently ask me do bets over 1BTC. .25BTC i could lose, 1BTC was still an acceptable cost, but I just considered it overconfidence, so i was working up to larger amounts. My last .25BTC, she stated that she was going to raise the minimum deposit to 1.2BTC, and that is when I tapped out, as people lose alot of money due to overconfidence. I still have our skype convo.

Anything else I can contribute? Feel free to ask, I dont understand what alia scammed or what this is resulting in, but I can state that I recieved the money she stated, just dont know if it was through a script.

The minimum bet was raised to save my time, since some big investors had stepped in at that point that were betting much more by a rather significant margin. Thanks for vouching for me. Glad I could've helped. Also, as you have probably seen, my investors have stepped out, so if you want to tip me back some of the (large) profits I gave you then it would be greatly appreciated. Thank you
6  Economy / Reputation / Re: Evidence of alias (u=1764044) long con scam! on: March 06, 2018, 01:47:08 AM
For the third time... I'm not using the script. Are you braindead? And, nice cherrypicking. Try sending the link so people can watch in realtime Wink

Ad hominems get us nowheere

There is nothing to cherry pick. You're failing bigly and you don't have a winning script, that much is obvious.

Link: https://www.bustabit.com/user/makealiagreatagain


For the fourth time, I'm not using the script. I never use it on my own funds, plain and simple. You really are dense...
7  Economy / Scam Accusations / Re: kii552007_alt Computer Hardware Scammer on: March 06, 2018, 01:45:15 AM
Okay, well it seems like this is moving in a more positive direction than it possibly could have. I'm happy to see that people are getting refunds and aren't having too much of a tough time.
At this point is there anyone that hasn't gotten their refund at least begun? In terms of processing, or pending.

Me. No refund for me. But, I think it's because I sent it directly to Cliff and not the partner's paypal
8  Economy / Reputation / Re: Evidence of alias (u=1764044) long con scam! on: March 06, 2018, 01:38:07 AM
I deleted a post where you called me "120% scammer", and said nothing else. Please read the rules of the thread.

And yeah, feel free to speculate. Heck, theymos is doing a long con right now. Although, to any logical person, me refunding aTriz and the "long con" narrative do not add up

Actually it adds up really well, just like paying some "profits" when you were hoping to sell the script for 20-30 BTC.

If theymos starts selling a gambling script I'll neg him too. Is that good enough for you?

Speaking of scripts - still not working:



For the third time... I'm not using the script. Are you braindead? And, nice cherrypicking. Try sending the link so people can watch in realtime Wink
9  Economy / Reputation / Re: Evidence of alias (u=1764044) long con scam! on: March 06, 2018, 01:32:38 AM
Notable on the record:  Alia apparently locked the gambling script thread—just as I was trying to post a rather snide reply which insinuated that she was seeking attention with it.  I suppose not.

I posted something to that effect but perhaps not as nice... alia deleted the post before locking the thread.

Which is good, no need for a misleading thread. This scam thread is much more relevant.

I paid out a lot. Almost $5k. Say what you will about that

Long con. Well, not very long but you didn't know that at the time.

I deleted a post where you called me "120% scammer", and said nothing else. Please read the rules of the thread.

And yeah, feel free to speculate. Heck, theymos is doing a long con right now. Although, to any logical person, me refunding aTriz and the "long con" narrative do not add up

10  Economy / Reputation / Re: Evidence of alias (u=1764044) long con scam! on: March 06, 2018, 01:14:11 AM
Notable on the record:  Alia locked the gambling script thread—just as I was trying to post a rather snide reply which insinuated that she was seeking attention with it.  I suppose not.

cough
11  Economy / Reputation / Re: Evidence of alias (u=1764044) long con scam! on: March 06, 2018, 01:05:32 AM
I paid out a lot. Almost $5k. Say what you will about that
Most of what you "paid out" was to a newbie with very shady dealings...

How is that at all relevent? Ad hominems get us nowheere
12  Economy / Reputation / Re: Evidence of alias (u=1764044) long con scam! on: March 06, 2018, 01:02:36 AM
I paid out a lot. Almost $5k. Say what you will about that

Yeah, without checking with each of your "winners", for the sake of argument I accepted that you did pay out.
Seeing as the "script" has been proven not to exist/work, the question was 'Why?'
Pro Tip: don't bother to answer that.

No, that's the thing. The only thing that was "proven" was that no script can be profitable in the long run. For me, the script works. Maybe I was just lucky. I even gave aTriz the script, he saw it was real, he run it himself, and it worked.
13  Economy / Reputation / Re: Evidence of alias (u=1764044) long con scam! on: March 06, 2018, 12:03:26 AM
Oh, gawd.. I've told you already, I stopped using the script. xDDDD

And also, my investors are not imaginary. read: nullius, SyGambler, TelevisionLover, so on and so forth, just ask them. Faggot.

What you're telling is mostly lies.

nullius and SyGambler have already stated that they don't have any proof of you actually making gambling profit with their money, or any proof of the script.

I'll go with Mr. Occam here.

Yeah, that's the way the Razor cuts for me too; there was no script.
If that is the case, it begs the questions:

1) The nearly half a BTC he/she/etc. paid out below was seed money. What for?
2) What did aTriz do or see, in order for him to vouch it?

Quote from: alia
Name      Amount    Return Amount    ROI

 slaman29    0.005           0.007              140%   
    nullius         0.01            0.02              200%
 slaman29     0.1              0.11               110%
 slaman29     0.1              0.107             107%
  v4d1mm    0.005           0.0058           116%
  v4d1mm    0.0475           0.052           109%
SyGambler    0.01            0.014           140%
TelevisionLover  0.01            0.013           130%
TelevisionLover  0.05            0.055           110%
TelevisionLover  0.1            0.109           109%
SyGambler    0.01            0.012           120%
TelevisionLover  0.2            0.22             110%
TelevisionLover  0.2            0.21             105%
TelevisionLover  0.2            0.22             110%
TelevisionLover  0.25            0.275           110%
TelevisionLover  0.25            0.275           110%
live:tonyl6         2.5              2.8           112%
favours         0.8              0.88           110%


Not that it's inconsistent with alia's inconsistency, but I'd have thought that the best way of continuing to bluff this out would have been to push the following story, rather than attempt to argue that math isn't math. The claimed unspecified alteration in house edge would make redundant calcs based on 1%.

Quote from: alia
As for "no strategies will work in gambling" - this does not apply to someone who was intimate with the dev who owns the gambling site, and thus has some insider information.

I'll elaborate further:
The site in question uses an interesting system to rope in users. For each new user, it will let them get a certain amount of profit with ease (the house edge is significantly lower), and once this quota is hit, they will start losing. This way, people feel like the game is not rigged and even upon losing it all, they'll keep trying to put in more money. What I do is, I play until the quota is almost hit, and then I cash out.

Although his/her/etc. later claims that
Quote
tweaking
made the "script" work on more than just one site are yet another inconsistency.





I paid out a lot. Almost $5k. Say what you will about that
14  Economy / Gambling / Re: Proving that my gambling script works. on: March 05, 2018, 04:00:00 PM
If I'm not mistaken, it was one of my very first replies where I stated it to be EV-

Yet you insisted - and you still do! - that it's profitable in short term, once a day, math doesn't apply to it, and other bullshit like that. Nice backpedaling, not going to work though. You're a genuine, honest-to-God, bona fide scammer.

Do you mean bona fide as in "geniune" or "without intention to deceive"? Because only one is true

edit: just read the rest of the sentence. well no, if I wanted to scam, I would've 1) taken customer deposits and 2) kept aTriz's 2k but whatever!

Yes, you could have done a bigger scam. Fortunately you got caught, unfortunately that seems to be due to your gambling addiction. I hope you get better.

Yes. Your whole account is just a scam waiting to happen. 1000+ BTC exit scam. Right? Right?

Stop making baseless allegations made from thin air, loser. Your stupidity makes me want to go to bed... goodnight
15  Economy / Reputation / Re: Evidence of alias (u=1764044) long con scam! on: March 05, 2018, 03:53:27 PM
I didn't attempt a scam, dumbfuck. I genuinely believe my script works (as it has been doing for EVERY investor thus far) and I sold it whilst believing that.

You've been told numerous times that it can't work. You can't use the naïveté defense. Well, you can and you do, it just makes you look even more of a liar and a scammer.

Here is how well it works for you and your imaginary investors:

https://www.bustabit.com/user/makealiagreatagain




Oh, gawd.. I've told you already, I stopped using the script. xDDDD

And also, my investors are not imaginary. read: nullius, SyGambler, TelevisionLover, so on and so forth, just ask them. Faggot.
16  Economy / Gambling / Re: Proving that my gambling script works. on: March 05, 2018, 03:48:08 PM
If I'm not mistaken, it was one of my very first replies where I stated it to be EV-

Yet you insisted - and you still do! - that it's profitable in short term, once a day, math doesn't apply to it, and other bullshit like that. Nice backpedaling, not going to work though. You're a genuine, honest-to-God, bona fide scammer.

Do you mean bona fide as in "geniune" or "without intention to deceive"? Because only one is true

edit: just read the rest of the sentence. well no, if I wanted to scam, I would've 1) taken customer deposits and 2) kept aTriz's 2k but whatever!
17  Economy / Reputation / Re: Evidence of alias (u=1764044) long con scam! on: March 05, 2018, 03:33:25 PM
Answer a simple question. If I am a scammer, why have I scammed nobody? And if I am a scammer, why did I refund $2k of what was rightfully mine?

This question has been answered numerous times, you just don't like the answer.

Attempted scam is still a scam.

You're still insisting that a magic winning script exists. Filthy scammer.

It's been a policy from the very beginning for me to never show my face, so obviously not. You're welcome to skype and interview us both together (bodies only, that is) and ask us anything you like.

What's the point then? We can ask anything we like here, and you're lying just the same.

I didn't attempt a scam, dumbfuck. I genuinely believe my script works (as it has been doing for EVERY investor thus far) and I sold it whilst believing that.
18  Economy / Reputation / Re: Evidence of alias (u=1764044) long con scam! on: March 05, 2018, 03:30:00 PM
Cause you are trying to pull a master p level type of scam

Ah, yes. An account with -1000 neg trust can refund $2k and people will totally trust it with $100,000. You fucking dumbass. I expect not a single cent from anyone on here, that much is evident. I may be poor but one thing I have (unlike aTriz) is a strong moral compass.

What happened to that signed address of yours with a lot of Bitcoins on it? Do you own it?

Signed address had about 2k.

And where is this money now?

In my possession, probably...? What is your point?
19  Economy / Reputation / Re: Evidence of alias (u=1764044) long con scam! on: March 05, 2018, 03:25:21 PM
Cause you are trying to pull a master p level type of scam

Ah, yes. An account with -1000 neg trust can refund $2k and people will totally trust it with $100,000. You fucking dumbass. I expect not a single cent from anyone on here, that much is evident. I may be poor but one thing I have (unlike aTriz) is a strong moral compass.

What happened to that signed address of yours with a lot of Bitcoins on it? Do you own it?

Signed address had about 2k.
20  Economy / Reputation / Re: Evidence of alias (u=1764044) long con scam! on: March 05, 2018, 03:08:12 PM

You can be poor but rich in spirit. Maybe that's what she meant

That's... not at all what I meant. But, it is a good message, and is one that applies to me, so thanks anyway

Can we have a family photo of you and your bother?

It's been a policy from the very beginning for me to never show my face, so obviously not. You're welcome to skype and interview us both together (bodies only, that is) and ask us anything you like.
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