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Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Card Counting in Blackjack
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on: October 19, 2020, 06:36:00 PM
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In my opinion, card counting is applicable to online and physical casinos.
As others have pointed out, card counting does not work in online casinos. The deck is shuffled after every round. Edit: Unless you are referring to the "video stream" online blackjack where it's a physical deck of cards. That may be possible to card count on as long as they don't shuffle the deck(s) in a shoe too frequently. But even there I have strong doubts. These live stream gambling services aren't naive. |
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Economy / Gambling / Re: 999Dice.com - Just Launched - 0.1% house edge, faucet & earn BTC
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on: October 17, 2020, 12:01:40 PM
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Every site should be well monitored before playing there are many ways in which it is theoretically possible to get bitcoin on the network without investment but most of them are risky or not committed to making money there are methods that allow you to earn electronic money legally and without risk by performing various tasks and micro-tasks on special sources. Therefore you need to check the scam site before submitting btc.
the f*ck with investment and electronic money legally? This is gambling, it's not an investment site.
Do you ever heard about 999dice before or just post for your signature sake? Yeah he is just babbling so he can earn some "electronic money legally" with his signature spam. |
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Economy / Gambling / Re: Primedice.com | Creators of Dicing 🎲 | 60+ Billion Bets | 113+ BTC Jackpot!
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on: October 16, 2020, 10:33:14 PM
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Playing on primedice
Regular bets I can go for days w/o long losing streaks as soon as I try applying anything similar to martingale with the same odds I rarely last over 30 mins it is very very strange as i would expect atleast some level of consistency within 10%-20% difference
I know it is provable fair and it is gambling. So it is just my feedback here.
If you are playing on any win chance with martingale strategy, you will bust quickly since you need unlimited bankroll to prevent it from long streak losses which is impossible. But, that is true that busting happens more frequently than it used to happen earlier like if I am betting 100 satoshi bets and my bankroll is 0.01 then I would fancy myself to bust within 20-30 minutes so I agree with him something is strange because don't get me wrong I understand the bets and results are provably fair and PD is too big a casino to lose their reputation for such amounts but really maybe I am having a bad luck like him. Sometimes I feel like when I make a new account and make bets I am more lucky and once I have played for a few hours the luck starts fading  so I make a new account and start betting with that. Although that doesn't mean I win a lot, I still lose but lesser than if I had bet on single account and chased VIP ranks. I think you are very much experiencing variance. Don't let it mess with your head! |
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Economy / Gambling / Re: 999Dice.com - Just Launched - 0.1% house edge, faucet & earn BTC
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on: October 16, 2020, 08:17:21 PM
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I started gambling at 999dice the other day using Seuntjies DiceBot. The reason I started gambling there was due to the low edge and because it's supported by the dice bot which gave me some confidence since the dev removes sites that are scams.
I have to admit that I only noticed this thread after I deposited 0.013 BTC. That made me a little nervous, but not super nervous since it was profit I made from another dice site (bitvest.io). After making a profit of ~0.009 btc on 999dice I cashed out. Zero problems with cash out. My money was sent within 5 minutes.
I think some of the people not getting paid probably tried to do double spend attacks and 999dice preys on these people since they were trying to take advantage. Shady on both sides to be honest, but like I said 999dice has been good to me.
All of the problems with it not being provably fair really is a non issue. The Seuntjies DiceBot dev already confirmed that 999dice is within the statistically normal range when it comes to randomness from a good pRNG algorithm.
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Economy / Gambling / Re: Betroar.io + BitBrawlers 💰 INSTANT 100% MATCH BONUS + GENEROUS BTC FAUCET 💰
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on: April 29, 2020, 10:59:24 AM
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Its seems that they are here only to steal money from people.
Who did betroar steal from? Not you. It's already been proven that you cheated the site. Multiple people sided against you on bitcointalk. Do I need to bring up quotes from two pages ago? You're still mad about it and want to use this opportunity to bash betroar. And what about CryCrptoCry? Did they steal from him? No. He got paid out multiple times. He's whining because he lost a bet. And what's so wrong with defending betroar? They paid me out multiple times, and I enjoy betting with them. So yes you can consider me a bit of a fan boy as a result. I don't know about the status of betroar's license but lots of bitcoin casinos operate without a license. Bitvest and Nitrogen are two examples. Why are you suddenly crying about this now when you didn't say a peep about it when you were proven to be a cheater? Before you start calling other people retards and idiots, try not to talk like a drunk behind the keyboard every time you post. |
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Economy / Gambling / Re: Betroar.io + BitBrawlers 💰 INSTANT 100% MATCH BONUS + GENEROUS BTC FAUCET 💰
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on: April 29, 2020, 10:26:50 AM
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Make as many personal attacks you want to make. But my questions are still unanswered about salty bet collaborating or exploiting betroar platform.. You can not offer any games which you cannot prove fair, as simple as that. Beside those obvious glitches and blank screens, even if I gave them benefit of doubt.
They can offer any games they want you fucking idiot. It's up to the gambler to decide whether to play or not. Is Soccer provably fair? What about Football? What about when you spin a physical roulette wheel? Is that provably fair? None of these are provably fair because they're not generated by a deterministic pseudo random number generator. Also your accusation of saltybet collaborating or exploiting betroar is totally baseless and it's all because you're a sour little bitch that is mad that you lost a bet of 0.0034 BTC despite winning and cashing out multiple times. Furthermore it's not a personal attack for me to remind the community that yahoo62278 paid you BTC and you failed to fulfill the work until he gave you negative trust. It is a factual event that happened and puts your character into question. All you are doing here is trying to fish for free BTC. You're hoping that you become so insufferable that Betroar will give you free BTC just to shut your conspiracy theory ass down. But then problem with that is you're fucking unbearable even when you have free BTC to play with, despite you cashing out BTC multiple times to your wallet from betroar. |
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Economy / Gambling / Re: Betroar.io + BitBrawlers 💰 INSTANT 100% MATCH BONUS + GENEROUS BTC FAUCET 💰
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on: April 29, 2020, 10:09:48 AM
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Does salty bet knows that there is a betting platform like betroar who is using their AI controlled matches to make hefty fee every match. Is there any possibility to collaborate with salty bet or salty bet exploiting their platform? Are you paying them any fee? And please do not compare these AI matches with real sports. And most importantly what about those frequent blank screens to just seize players fund and tell them to rollover 25x. Who control those blank screens and missing betting records.
I personally haven't experienced these blank screens. Maybe your Internet is just complete shit? Where are you located? Who is your ISP? Can you provide a trace route between you and twitch (who is hosting the stream)? Also how come you're avoiding the topic of you taking free bitcoin from yahoo62278 and then not fulfilling your obligations until he hit you with negative trust? Dude it sounds like you're bitter that you lost your 0.0034 BTC in bonus money in one blow. The only one who is at fault is you for making a bad decision. Also you've apparently been playing Bitbrawlers for a while now. Why are you now suddenly being so bitter despite cashing out successfully multiple times? Is it because the free bitcoin stopped hitting your pockets so you end up acting no different than a shake down artist and just bad mouth an operator that paid you multiple times? But the thing is you already got paid out 0.003 BTC today by betroar plus multiple times several months ago, and now that you lost it sounds like you are fishing for more free bonus BTC by making up accusations. |
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Economy / Gambling / Re: Betroar.io – Try Bit Brawlers! 💰 UPDATE 11/26: .001 BTC Airdrops Extended! 💰
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on: April 29, 2020, 09:24:01 AM
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We have addressed our fairness policy with regards to Bitbrawlers before crycryptocry. We have no control of the twitch stream nor the results it produces. See our original quote below and the user (a competitor actually) we responded to below: This is pretty cool I've actually had the same idea for a long time, even thinking about directly using saltybet. The only issue in my opinion is that you have to trust saltybet not to manipulate the odds and results of the fight somehow. Our team was never able to figure out how to make this provably fair but it is a pretty novel idea at least
So fairness in Bit Brawlers is something we have given a lot of consideration to and we addressed this a little bit earlier in the thread. Some gambling games are able to prove fairness by providing a hash that can be confirmed after the play is over. Of course this is not possible for unpredictable events like football games, horse races and Bit Brawlers matches. We feel this kind of game absolutely requires unpredictability, as players can certainly tell the difference between a crazy unpredictable fighting game match and a pre-scripted animation like a cheesy slot machine bonus game. So the short answer is no, we can not prove fairness in that same way a predetermined game can. Also, just the same as the NFL cannot prove it's players aren't on PED's and deflating footballs, there is a certain risk of the markets being manipulated by the Stream Operators but we have some ways to mitigate that. We would very much appreciate your thoughts on these 1. We are able to switch streams at a moment's notice. We believe that it is in the stream owners best interest to keep the game fair and unpredictable. Not only do we have detailed stat tracking, these streams with live audiences also have hundreds of users, many of whom are keeping stats themselves. 2. In addition to statistics on the fights themselves, consistent analysis of player bet history should quickly reveal any irregular activity or collusion in manipulating the parimutuel pool. 3. In the event we do not have a trusted stream to broadcast, we are able to begin our own M.U.G.E.N. stream and broadcast ourselves. However, we strongly feel that this is a downgrade in fairness compared to using popular streams because of the trust and reputation implications. As a player, would you prefer us using our own stream or a 3rd party like SaltyBet? It's been addressed above already. Improve your reading comprehension you sourpus. It's no different than a sporting event or a horse racing simulcast. None of these events are provably fair in the way you're thinking of where a hash is generated. Why? Because it's not a deterministic event generated by a pseudo random number generator. It's an unpredictable real life event. Also they have no control of the stream. It's controlled by Saltybet which is third party streamer on twitch. You already received 0.003 BTC cashed out into your own personal wallet by Betroar, and it's been proven you're a hypocritical freeloader that collects BTC without fulfilling the work unless someone gives you neg trust like bitcointalk user yahoo62278 had to do after he paid you and you didn't fulfill your obligations. It's time to fuck off and move on. |
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Economy / Gambling / Re: Betroar.io + BitBrawlers 💰 INSTANT 100% MATCH BONUS + GENEROUS BTC FAUCET 💰
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on: April 29, 2020, 07:39:43 AM
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Took money for a review campaign for Betnomi and didn't complete the review requirement until a neg was left.
Could have been a simple mistake by this user so this doesn't make them untrustworthy, just leaving the neutral as a reminder for myself.
LOL check out this trust feedback I found on Crycryptocry. Crycryptocry is a confirmed lazy hypocritical freeloader that doesn't even bother doing the work until someone leaves neg trust. So on top of bitching and moaning after you already cashed out your winnings, you also don't follow through with your own commitments. Nice. Hypocrisy confirmed. |
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Economy / Gambling / Re: Betroar.io + BitBrawlers 💰 INSTANT 100% MATCH BONUS + GENEROUS BTC FAUCET 💰
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on: April 29, 2020, 07:04:49 AM
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You should check the post history of this thread. Bitcointalk user marcotheminer won and cashed out from Bitbrawlers. He never came on here to bitch and moan like you do.
Another player who cashed out was AlexSimion and he would give bug reports on here, but he was super nice about it and not an absolute entitled dick head like you are.
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Economy / Gambling / Re: Betroar.io + BitBrawlers 💰 INSTANT 100% MATCH BONUS + GENEROUS BTC FAUCET 💰
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on: April 29, 2020, 06:45:33 AM
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Wow just when I think all things are going into right directions this shit happens again.
I bet all in again 0.0034 btc and guess what, '' just when fight started stream goes black '' and just after 15 seconds when I reload my fight was ended surprisingly super fast, as they don not want me to be there in their platform any more. I have a gut feeling now that they can determine the outcome of bit brawler matches. I want an explanation regarding 'provable fairness' of their bit brawler matches.
They don't have any control of the stream. The twitch stream is a third party stream run by saltybet (which lets you bet with fake money instead of bitcoin) and betroar has no control over the results, but yes keep indulging us with your conspiracy theories you fucking cretin. Also as it has been explained to you already, the betting is player vs player not player vs house. It's also not possible to do "provably fair" for sports matches and that includes bitbrawlers because it is a third party event just like a sporting match not a fucking dice roll dumbass. You already cashed out 0.003 BTC from Betroar and YOU STILL WHINE AND COMPLAIN and make baseless accusations because you lost the bonus money that frankly you didn't deserve in the first place. You're absolutely insufferable. |
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Economy / Gambling / Re: Betroar.io + BitBrawlers 💰 INSTANT 100% MATCH BONUS + GENEROUS BTC FAUCET 💰
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on: April 29, 2020, 06:14:52 AM
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Bitbrawlers is a parimutuel game. Odds are variable and the prize pool is from other players betting. Betroar has no stake in who wins, loses, or if there is a push. They collect a platform fee after each match.
If anything, Betroar has an incentive to have a result be determined, as they only collect the platform fee when winnings are paid out. In the event of a push, you simply get your original stake back, without any cut taken. Exactly. That is my understanding too, though I did not clearly articulate that in my post. They don't collect any platform fee if there is a push. |
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Economy / Gambling / Re: Betroar.io + BitBrawlers 💰 INSTANT 100% MATCH BONUS + GENEROUS BTC FAUCET 💰
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on: April 29, 2020, 06:04:12 AM
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Though my winnings are more then this. And there is no record available (which must be there on your behalf as you have to maintain all records at least video recording on twitch). And the fact that it has happened to me earlier also and you adopted the same policy. Let the community decide here, but IMHO there should be more transparency of records on your part. Odds are by default must be mentioned in players bet history for bit brawlers which is clearly not the case, and now player must prove that he won with x odds. This not professional at least.
But the fact that I played with bonus ( which must not make any difference ), and you processed, 50% of my cash out I am accepting this offer and leaving this matter open for the interpretations of more experienced and learned members of this forum.
Here's my two cents: SHUT THE FUCK UP YOU WHINY LITTLE BITCH! Bitbrawlers is a parimutuel game. Odds are variable and the prize pool is from other players betting. Betroar has no stake in who wins, loses, or if there is a push. They collect a platform fee after each match. I just check their terms and here's what you agree to by using their site: "Bets affected by glitches, site malfunctions or exploits will be ruled a "no contest"." "The decision of BetRoar's management, as regards any use of BetRoar, or dispute resolution, is final and shall not be open to review or appeal." "By playing on BetRoar you agree that the decision of our judges is final." That is EXACTLY what happened in your bitbrawlers game that you're crying about (living up to your username btw). There was a internal malfunction and the "no contest" rule kicked in and all bets were returned to all players. You should be happy that betroar still decided to kick in an extra bonus your way and that was AFTER you already cashed out 0.003 BTC. It seems like when betroar gives you an inch, you want a mile. And holy shit all of this criticism from you and you're not even playing with your own fucking money!!!!!! You're just being an insufferable freeloader. I'm so sick and tired of your posts! |
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Economy / Gambling / Re: Betroar.io + BitBrawlers 💰 INSTANT 100% MATCH BONUS + GENEROUS BTC FAUCET 💰
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on: April 26, 2020, 08:40:26 AM
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First of all I will watch my tone, there is nothing to get aggressive about. Second I deserved the cash out bonus given by them as part of their promotion (please check first post here). Thirdly I did not tell them to give me any extra bonus.
Your are saying about 'esports' but I am betting on table tennis and please try sportsbet.io or nitrogensports to check the average grading time and compare it with betroar. All I am doing is critically examining their services so that they can improve, instead of just waiting. Which you have termed as 'bitch and moaning' (unworthy language for the forum IMHO), many people here will call it 'Feedback' .
Fair enough about you "deserving" (wow what an entitlement complex from a prize pig) your bonus since you did show proof that you were able to successfully withdraw, but your posts still come off as whiny and full of complaints despite them giving you an extra bonus and doing their best to treat you well. You can share such feedback to them in private so they can improve instead of shitting up their thread. |
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Economy / Gambling / Re: Betroar.io + BitBrawlers 💰 INSTANT 100% MATCH BONUS + GENEROUS BTC FAUCET 💰
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on: April 26, 2020, 06:10:05 AM
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Now a days you are so slow on grading. It must be instant. I have so many pending sports bet to be graded and I just realized that almost every time I have to remind to for grading those bets. Also you must add a live score card or something for all the matches you are offering so that results can be verified easily by player without having to go to any other platform. I f you need 48-36 hours for grading just table tennis every time I do not know what will happen with serious traffic betting on various events.
Jesus. You got free bonus money from betroar when they were not obligated to give you anything due to the time passed and all you do is bitch and moan on here while also being a freeloading prize pig. Shut the fuck up already. I'm betting on betroar and nitrogen sports for esports and neither operator is grading my bets instantly, but in both cases they're fast enough to keep me satisfied plus it's anonymous so I don't have to worry about getting 86ed for "winning too much". Have you even deposited any of your own bitcoin into their site? If I were betroar I would seriously regret giving an ungrateful little pissant like you any bonus btc when all you do is shit up their thread with these comments when you could have instead just contacted them via their customer service form or PMs. |
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