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941  Other / Off-topic / Re: Did I get too angry? on: March 12, 2011, 05:15:34 AM
I never asked. I have been defrauded too many times. I am tired of being stolen from. All I want to do is control what I can and if that's preventing other people from suffering the same fate, so be it.

Atlas, you are too carefree, and don't properly check out peoples histories or give credit to people who have no reputation.  Even tho you have been fucked over, sometimes if you are not careful you open yourself to such attacks!

Maybe providing tools for people to better check other traders histories so they don't get scammed, is a better, more productive solution than getting hot headed.

Get scammed > work out what you missed > next time don't be as easy to scam.

Bitcoin community shouldn't be a community that cries and gets upset when they get scammed.  It should be a community that is extremely hard to scam as all the traders are very careful.

 Wink
942  Other / Off-topic / Re: Did I get too angry? on: March 12, 2011, 04:08:11 AM
nahh m8 you are a normal pissed off consumer who has a good reason to feel cheated. It if helped you to vent your emotions like that even a bit so be it. No regrets.

providing you have smile for your next customer, then it is all good.  However I cannot help but think that your video reminds me of http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kHmvkRoEowc  :O

Edit: ok joke was a bit too harsh...  I need to back off on the black humour.
943  Economy / Marketplace / Will buy old DNB wax for BTC on: March 12, 2011, 02:49:35 AM
If you have old, and good quality drum and bass vinyl records. I am interested in buying bulk.  Name a price, I'm open to suggestion.  I am in Australia, so larger orders preferred.

 Grin
944  Other / Off-topic / Re: Government regulation always a bad thing? on: March 12, 2011, 01:00:35 AM
Even people in the public service can do good things... However people who are not in the public service do good things also.  It isn't a question of good or bad, but forced or voluntary.
945  Bitcoin / Development & Technical Discussion / Re: Poll: What are your Bitcoin Client Feature Request / wishlist? on: March 11, 2011, 03:50:35 AM
keep your private keys secure in the same way that gpg dose.  Grin
946  Other / Off-topic / Re: its 1990 and im surfing the web thingy on: March 10, 2011, 08:06:43 AM
I have the same case as you, a wicked case, one of the best ever made.  Smiley the updated version sucks tho.  Angry
947  Economy / Economics / Re: Distribution of Wealth on: March 10, 2011, 08:01:56 AM
My personal experience from visiting friends in Sweden is that quality of life is exceptional.  However there can also be dark sides to living there, in subtle ways that are hard to measure.  The degree of intrusion by the collective into your personal life can be a little disconcerting and scary, especially if your values and lifestyle diverge from the societal consensus.

You can be happy in a cage, if they treat you very well... but you will still be in cage...
948  Economy / Economics / Re: Distribution of Wealth on: March 09, 2011, 12:44:30 PM
There's a simple (if unwritten) contract: "let's have sex".  But it has unintended consequences, not foreseen in the contract, and that's all you need to make the wonderful utopia of anarchism & free-market crumble, one conflict at a time.

What part of 'lets-have-sex' doesn't have the implied possibility of having a child, everyone knows that condoms brake.

However that isn't the point, with unintended consequences you just have to deal with it.  Life is full of uncertainty.  A better way of looking at this problem is did the people having sex voluntary do it or not.  Because if it was voluntary there is no issue.

Finally, the woman voluntary decided to keep the child, and the farther voluntary decided to help care for it.  The mother could put the child up for adoption, or a host of other options.  I'm sure that if she didn't want it at all, there would be somebody else in the society wanting to look after it.

Other than self-defense, there is always a voluntary option.
949  Economy / Economics / Re: Who run barter town? on: March 09, 2011, 10:38:06 AM
Bitcoin is new, and growing fast.  Atm we are developing the tools to allow a proper economy. Smiley
950  Economy / Economics / Re: Distribution of Wealth on: March 09, 2011, 01:36:05 AM
You are quite correct, the world is in shades of gray.

Just a clarification, there are still only two types of actions, however in gray cases normally both parties have committed violent actions.  So it is hard to say one party is in the 'right.'
The other type of gray actions are actions that use a debatable degree of force, such as making threats.  These ones need some court of court system to work out if it was violent or not.

A free society is never going to be easy to achieve, and nobody really knows quite how it will work.  But it is a worthy goal to work towards.
951  Economy / Economics / Re: Distribution of Wealth on: March 09, 2011, 01:11:49 AM
I will.  I'm waiting for a response from da2ce7.  But let me ask you, do you think all human interactions can be put into one and only one of two possible classes: voluntary or violent?  Are there no others?

You are quite correct, the world is in shades of gray.

I used the black and white example to polarise people on purpose as the thread was going in circles with detail.

The case with MTGox is black and white, either people are forced with violence to use it, or not.   So my argument even when it is simplified to a black and white contrast, still holds strong.

However, often the world doesn't provide such clear cut cases.  The often there is a need for careful weighing and the balancing of actions,  this sort of thing requires a court or adjudication system.  However how a court system would operate in a free society, has yet to be defined and has been the argument of philosophers for the ages now and past.  Somethings are never quite worked out, until they are done.
952  Economy / Economics / Re: Distribution of Wealth on: March 08, 2011, 01:39:46 PM
What you describe is not a new phenomenon and "old money" families are well aware of this problem. Some have devised sophisticated systems to prevent this from happening.    

I am glad that they have worked out a solution!  It seems like they are happily existing without violence, in that case it is moral, I am glad for them.

The free market is based upon people having 'free interactions.'  A free interaction is not a interaction where you know everything, but rather an interaction that one choose to do on your own terms, (whatever they may be).

If both parties to the interaction are in agreement, then it is good.  If the parties cannot agree on the terms, they walk away.

imanikin prerogative is to control his (or her) own actions.   I guess it is a hard spot, declaring dark-pools as immoral yet unable to stop other people from trading (without the use of violence), I guess they only he  can do is shout louder.  However I'm not one to declare something a illegal just because I do not like doing it.
953  Economy / Economics / Re: Distribution of Wealth on: March 08, 2011, 01:18:11 PM
The core fact is there are two types of interactions in this world:   voluntary   or    violent

Morality also lies upon these two types of interactions also.  (Moral) consensual iterations  or   (In-moral) violently forced actions

The big and small traders alike are not forced to use MTGox.  They both choose to use if out of their free will.

imanikin is declaring that the traders (big or small) committed a 'in-moral' act by using MTGox, however has not presented any evidence of violence.

Whatever happens on MTGox is moral! as long as there is no violent force to use MTGox.


sidenote//
(economically speaking dark pools are great!  They improve the efficiency of the market, making the trading price of Bitcoin many times more stable!  I am always amazed to see how stable the Bitcoin price is considering how low the trading volumes are).
954  Other / Off-topic / Re: Introducing WingCash, think Dwolla + Facebook, the anti-anonymous e-currency on: March 07, 2011, 12:57:45 PM
do not want.

I wonder what the WingCash vs. Bitcoin exchange rate will be.  Grin lol
955  Bitcoin / Development & Technical Discussion / Re: Send bitcoins to an unknown recipient on: March 07, 2011, 09:34:24 AM
Are you saying that both the Public and Private keys will be sent in an email?  Huh

No problem, just use a pgp encrypted email.  Grin
956  Bitcoin / Development & Technical Discussion / Re: Send bitcoins to an unknown recipient on: March 07, 2011, 09:31:49 AM
I don't think you need to remove the key from the sender's wallet, it will still notice when it's spent. OTOH might be a good idea to remove it, otherwise you might accidentally spend it before the recipient inputs it.

No deleting of private keys, that is BAD!

Don't remove it, just create a 'revoked' flag for the wallet, so it knows that address is compromised.  Grin
957  Bitcoin / Development & Technical Discussion / Re: Dealing with SHA-256 Collisions on: March 07, 2011, 09:21:57 AM
When the SHA-3 winner is announced, and after some time in real use, would it be a good idea to switch to that?

I like Grøstl it seems to be the best hash of the lot.
958  Economy / Trading Discussion / Re: Bitcoin Economy Too Small To Support Freelancers on: March 07, 2011, 08:54:32 AM
Yep. However some coders are finding good work. But they are very good.

I have been making some bounties to try and encourage some work, however they also have seen poor uptake.

I think that we are in a 'everyone has a secret project' stage now, I think that this will last for a little while.  Shocked
959  Economy / Economics / Re: WTH? why a sudden drop by 10 cents? on: March 07, 2011, 08:05:49 AM
nothing to worry about, keep moving... you just forget that the price jumped from 25c to 100c in 3 months!  That is a market cap growth rate of over %2100 p.a. What happens is that real Bitcoin economy was slightly slower than it, and the price is lagging until the economy reaches that point again.

The long-term prospect is that 1BTC is going to easily clear 10$ by mid September and $20 by November, and $30 by the end of the year!

 Grin Grin

lets see what happens, however I fully expect that soon new funds will come online.  The number of Bitcoin projects in development atm in this community is staggering.

See there are stages, for example when he price was 25c the miners were sitting and waiting, now that the price has moved to around $1 the number of miners has dramatically increased.

The stage before was when MTGox and other trading sites came online.

We are in another phase now, this phase is when web-services based upon Bitcoin are being developed, when these come online, we will see a massive increase of trading value of Bitcoin.

Then, again, the miners will fight over the leftovers.

It will be a wild ride, it is the wild west after all.
960  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Anonymous on: March 04, 2011, 10:47:03 AM
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