Maybe a little faith.

edit: if they are going to be solved, the bitcoin community is the environment where it is going to happen.

People freak-out about all the scams that happen.  I think that this is mostly growing pains.

Over time the businesses and ventures that are well-run and reputable will grow larger, gain more loyal costumers, and extend their service.

Scammers take advantage of the fact that people are coming from a very different financial world, and are very trusting mainly because: in the traditional world people with guns prosecute you if you scam.

Having a higher power enforce laws is the simple solution to the problem.  However the problem with (the simple solution) is that it creates an environment that people want to escape (hence Bitcoin, and the turmoil of the traditional markets).


The best solution, also happens to be the hardest: Build decentralized secure infrastructure, that has so much utility that people _choose_ to use it voluntarily over the less-secure options.

This is why I said "Give It Time," in my previous post.  Secure Decentralized Networks are NP-Hard.  aka.  They are very difficult problems to tackle (hence why the violent simple solutions are so-often used).
But, I'm optimistic, the Bitcoin Community is full of extremely smart and motivated people that love Bitcoin, and love solving hard problems.  Maybe some of them will have the inspiration to design and implement the novel infrastructure that we require.

This is all growing pains.  If we continue to have the free-transfer of information. (speech and ideas, and in-essence Bitcoin itself).  I believe that the 'ZOMG Scammers' issue will start to fade away.


If all else fails.  At least I'm one of the people working on the infrastructure.  Checkout the Open Transactions project:  https://github.com/FellowTraveler/Open-Transactions

If you were a noobie, maybe all this negative stuff would help you not get scammed so easily... wait...

noobs still get scammed.


Overall I think that It will improve with time; we are in the wild west, it takes people time to adjust from the padded rooms that they are used to.

quote from Bitcoin Australia:  https://www.facebook.com/bitcoinaus/posts/101744956647407

+1

just a warning.... don't run random executables linked on this forum... 

Maybe have flag icons, and little pictures, that show up also.

(all this should be disabled, maybe with a 'hide my password' option also.)

what you need is a password form with auto-complete.  So you start typing the word, and it will give suggestions, then press <tab> to auto-complete that word.

Video by Adam Kokesh (http://www.adamvstheman.com/)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hrDBq-c7Zrk

Has some interesting information... Yes all pollies are slimy.

pics or GTFO!

Um you mean that both the Bitfloor and Pirate debacles are already priced into the market?  That sounds extremely rational to me.

Ok I have worked out the error.
I had a few things compiling as static libraries; while fine if your code is perfect; they hide many linker errors.   I changed of the projects in the solution to compile as DLLs, and cleaned up all the linker errors, (and warnings).  Bang-Presto.  It 'just worked'

So I have created a test-case, this is just 2 DLL files and a Managed exe file:

https://github.com/da2ce7/MessagePass

It works fine, so it at-least shows that I was on the right idea originally;

Yet, I am no closer to knowing why it crashes for OT.

Well depending what I was compiling, the pure native parts I was compiling with no /clr  (eg. otlib.dll, otapi.dll)

The Native/Managed interface, I compiled with: /clr (eg. otapicli.dll)

The Pure Managed test-app I compiled with /clr:pure (eg. ot_clr_prompt.exe)

The problem as far as I can tell is when linking the native dll's at runtime.  However debugging this is very difficult.

Hello, I'm the main windows developer for Open Transactions:
(don't know about Open Transactions check out my other thread: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=77301.0)

I need the help of a Windows API .NET CLI/C++ expert.

I have been trying to develop a CLI/C++ interface for the OTAPI (Open Transactions API).  To allow any .NET developer easy access in calling OT functions.  (Without needing P/Invoke and Swig).

I have got all the code compiling, without warnings.  I'm properly doing the __declspec(dllexport) and __declspec(dllimport) (afaict).

However on execution, I'm getting the impossible to debug:

(x64):



(x86):



When debugging the suspect code its:


However I'm finding it impossible to debug further.
I'm compiling all the source code with the same mode: Multi-threaded Debug DLL (/MDd) <- I even compile my own versions of ChaiScript, protobuf, and ZMQ, so be certain that they are using the same compiler settings.


All of the DLL's seem to be linked properly, and I have been quite careful about the references.

If anyone (maybe expert), wants to delve into this rabbit hole with me, and help, please checkout: https://github.com/da2ce7/Open-Transactions

I have full install setup instructions here: https://github.com/da2ce7/Open-Transactions/blob/master/docs/INSTALL-Windows.txt

In #opentransactions on freenode, I am regularly on-line as 'da2ce7.'


I think that this features, if possible to get stable, will be a big boon for writing a OT GUI for windows.

The suspect code files are:

https://github.com/da2ce7/Open-Transactions/blob/master/project/ot_clr_prompt/ot_clr_prompt.cpp  <- my test CLI file

https://github.com/da2ce7/Open-Transactions/blob/master/include/otapi/otapicli.h <- the CLI/C++ interface;
https://github.com/da2ce7/Open-Transactions/blob/master/src/otapi/otapicli.cpp   <- the related cpp file.

https://github.com/da2ce7/Open-Transactions/blob/master/include/otapi/OTAPI_Wrapper.h <- the native C++ interface.

However I suppose this bug isn't so-much related to the code itself, but rather the build system.

I'll even chip a few Bitcoins in the way of anyone who can help me solve this issue.    


Ok I have worked out the error.
I had a few things compiling as static libraries; while fine if your code is perfect; they hide many linker errors.   I changed of the projects in the solution to compile as DLLs, and cleaned up all the linker errors, (and warnings).  Bang-Presto.  It 'just worked'

neat! 

Hey, I'm the guy making the current windows builds.
The rational of the current builds is that I’m including the full debugging symbols, and linking against the development version of the libraries.

This will make finding bugs on windows far easier.  However in the future I will put more effort into making ‘release’ windows builds.

I can foresee at least 4 dependencies for the medium term, even with ‘release’ mode:
1.   MSVC 2008  (for OpenSSL)
2.   OpenSSL
3.   MSVC2010 SP1  (for Open Transactions)
4.   Java (for Moneychanger)

Of-course it should be possible to automate the install of the above mentioned dependencies, however this is not my development focus at the moment.

It would be great for another developer to offer their time and experience to build such an install system.  Else, I will get around to it, and just let people ‘suck it up’ with my debugging builds.

Been working hard on replacing the c api with c++.

Have finished the initial work:

Budding programmers can make use of:

https://github.com/da2ce7/Open-Transactions/blob/master/include/otapi/OTAPI_Wrapper.h

and (basic, just bool, long, and string)

https://github.com/da2ce7/Open-Transactions/blob/master/include/otapi/OTAPI_Basic.h



Swig has been updated as-well:

https://github.com/da2ce7/Open-Transactions/tree/master/swig/glue

for csharp, d, java, perl5, php, and python


I'm going to work on next:  The high-level api...  (this is the one you will probably want to use).

New Windows Development Builds...

These builds have a few more dependencies, but have full debugging symbols included.

Follow the instructions here to install the dependencies:

https://github.com/da2ce7/Open-Transactions/blob/master/docs/INSTALL-Windows.txt

Win32:

https://github.com/downloads/da2ce7/Open-Transactions/OT_0.84.e_Win_x32_Debug_2.7z.7z

Win64:

https://github.com/downloads/da2ce7/Open-Transactions/OT_0.84.e_Win_x64_Debug.7z

New Windows Development Builds...

These builds have a few more dependencies, but have full debugging symbols included.

Follow the instructions here to install the dependencies:

https://github.com/da2ce7/Open-Transactions/blob/master/docs/INSTALL-Windows.txt

Win32:

https://github.com/downloads/da2ce7/Open-Transactions/OT_0.84.e_Win_x32_Debug_2.7z.7z

Win64:

https://github.com/downloads/da2ce7/Open-Transactions/OT_0.84.e_Win_x64_Debug.7z


Common: User Data

(if you already use OT, and upgrading, only update the 'opentxs' folder)

https://github.com/downloads/da2ce7/Open-Transactions/ot_user_data_9300ce0.7z