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161  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer - MtGoxUSD wall movement tracker on: January 25, 2013, 01:57:44 AM
mmm bayb, look at that spread Smiley  Wink




162  Other / Meta / Re: Proposal to move bitcointalk to dramatalk.org on: January 23, 2013, 06:25:22 AM
In fact, I believe that this forum is at the highest quality it has been for a long, long, time.  Unlike the bitcoinica and mybitcoin times.
163  Other / Meta / Re: New subforums for alternative clients on: January 22, 2013, 10:51:12 AM
Maybe it should be:

    Development & Technical Discussion
        Electrum
        MultiBit
        ...
        Other alternative clients

?

I think that the root Development & Technical Discussion should be for general protocol discussions.

We should have a sub-forum for Bitcoin-QT, BitcoinJ, cBitcoin, etc...
As well as Electrum, MultiBit, etc...
164  Economy / Speculation / Re: Avalon asics shipping right now (?)... short term price effects? on: January 20, 2013, 02:09:17 PM
Oh, this is the cheif reason why we haven't seen rich investors build very large GPU farms:  Because they don't want an investment that will be made redundant.

ASIC miners do not have this characteristics.   Once a mining company can prove that they are not a scam.  I believe that they will be booked out for as many as they can make.
165  Economy / Speculation / Re: Avalon asics shipping right now (?)... short term price effects? on: January 20, 2013, 02:06:27 PM
if the chips (er devices) are indeed good  Shocked  Shocked  Shocked
then I suspect that we will have a long and sustained rally as all the ASIC distributors come on-line.

I believe many (rich) investors are holding back until they can:

a: Invest heavily in ASIC mining. (to strengthen their Bitcoin Investment)

b: Have confidence that Bitcoin will not be attacked via a malicious 51% attack (funded by a bank or government).


As (A) happens more and more; (b) will happen more and more.  Thus investors will be happy to invest more and more.

So I suspect the price to go up, and keep on going up.  Grin
166  Other / Meta / Re: Sales of accounts and invites to invite-only sites on: January 18, 2013, 09:46:32 AM
signing a treaty doesn't mean shit, until it is enacted into local law.

edit: I'm not a lawyer, so what I say means shit also.
167  Other / MultiBit / Re: MultiBit on: January 18, 2013, 07:46:27 AM
+ encrypted wallets
+ Bloom filters
+ HD wallets
+ Trezor support
+ fee calc support

I do find it kind-of ironic that bitcoinj, electrum, bitcoin-qt, armory, et'all have all spent so much time on their own wallets.
Then everyone is going to need to support the common HD Wallet format in the future to be relevant.

But yes.  HD Wallets are very cool.

Even in OT land we have been talking about supporting them.
168  Economy / Speculation / Re: USD/BTC Decoupling from forum activity and search trends on: January 15, 2013, 11:39:15 PM
anodically, I believe the post quality has never been higher on bitcoin talk than now.
169  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Bitcoin will be at CES2013 (Official Thread) on: January 13, 2013, 09:26:49 AM
Bitpay - prepare!

I think that Bitpay is a bridge too-far.  Tony is a great guy.
170  Bitcoin / Development & Technical Discussion / Re: SatoshiDice, lack of remedies, and poor ISP options are pushing me toward "Lite" on: January 11, 2013, 01:30:36 AM
While I believe that insurance based network security services would naturally keep the network secure (while using the minimal amount of work).

I general fall-in and agree with gmaxwell that this is a core economic rule, and should not be changed. (just like any other of bitcoin's economic rules, such as the block-reward).

I also think that it is a non-issue. As one day solutions such as Open Transactions will provide secure off-chain transactions.  (and in the future we see Bitcoin transactions for the settlement between OT servers and issuers.)
171  Bitcoin / Development & Technical Discussion / Re: The trasaction fetch memory exhaustion attack (TFMEA) on: January 10, 2013, 11:50:04 PM
Large Multi-sig tx may wish yo have very large transactions.
Say if we had a 'bitcoin bank' where 9K out of 10k shareholders have to vote to pass a motion?
172  Other / MultiBit / Re: MultiBit on: January 10, 2013, 12:08:08 AM

A quick fix for windows:

Code:
    public static Sha256Hash hashFileContents(File f) throws IOException {
        // Lame implementation that just reads the entire file into RAM. Can be made more efficient later.
        FileInputStream fileInputStream = new FileInputStream(f);
        Sha256Hash sha256Hash = create(ByteStreams.toByteArray(fileInputStream));
        fileInputStream.close();
        fileInputStream = null;
        return sha256Hash;
    }
173  Other / MultiBit / Re: MultiBit on: January 09, 2013, 11:58:40 PM
Just to not for everyone compiling Multibit form source:  Jim has updated his bitcoinj branch to: jim/encrypted-wallets-5

link here:
http://code.google.com/r/jimburton618-bitcoinj-coinbase-tx/source/browse?name=encrypted-wallets-5
174  Economy / Economics / Re: Paul Krugman Has had an epiphany... on: January 07, 2013, 10:45:22 PM
Quote

Yes, that is a real life economist.  And, yes, he thinks that matter and energy cannot be depleted.  Do you see just how screwed we all are?

Well, as far as it goes, it is true. But it's really hard to run your economy on nothing but waste heat and ash, ya know?

The fed can be thought as a closed system (they print new money, they move the value from one place to another).
No matter how hard they try to create energy, they simply move it from one place to another.  They are simply playing a loosing game.
175  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Bitcoin the enabler - Truly Autonomous Software Agents roaming the net on: January 07, 2013, 10:09:02 PM
The first round of this will be 'internet flora.'  The plants that grow on the internet.  Providing simple functions.

Over time I expect them to evolve and grow up.   One day we may even have internet fauna.  That will be amazing. However I can only dream about it in my lifetime.
176  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Phillip Rahvin: on 'Social Contracts' on: January 05, 2013, 02:02:10 PM
You guys think social contracts are stupid or a joke because YOU are ethical, but what do you do without any contracts or other guidelines to prevent somebody who does not share your ethics from infringing on you?  And what if he is more powerful?  Without social contracts, Darwinian/Malthusian selection occurs with respect to economics and resources.  That's hardly a better solution than social contracts, right???

You can always defend yourself, or have friends, family, or other people to defend you from aggressive attack.  However if you opponent is truly strong there isn't much you can do.  Incendiary, this is the case with the government, that is such a strong opponent that it is impossible to defend yourself from it's attacks; thus you submit to it's authority. (or go down in a blazing fight).
177  Other / Politics & Society / Phillip Rahvin: on 'Social Contracts' on: January 05, 2013, 03:08:58 AM
This is a post by Phillip Rahvin, I saved it because I was sure it was going to be lost in time:

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[on Social Contacts:]

Oh, I have too many opinions about this. Thanks for the excuse to rant.


The social contract is not a contract.

Contracts contain four elements: offer, meeting of the minds (negotiation), acceptance, and consideration (trade).

There is no offer or meeting of the minds because the laws are unilaterally, arbitrarily dictated down upon people.

There is no acceptance. The social contract is enacted by force. If someone disagrees with the laws and acts upon their disagreement then they are taken away to a prison. If they resist, they are killed. Contracts cannot be coercively formed or else they are invalid.

There is no consideration. Consideration is those things which are traded in a contract, usually money for some good or service. When the State taxes people for a good or service they always include the disclaimer that they are not legally obligated to provide it. For example, people are taxed for social security for their entire working lives. Yet, people have been denied their social security benefits under the Supreme Court case Flemming v. Nestor which states that the government is not contractually obligated to provide social security benefits. People are taxed for police services and told that it is for their protection. Yet, the Supreme Court cases Bowers v. DeVito and DeShaney v. Winnebago County Department of Social Services state respectively that the government is not obligated to provide police services and that even when the police services are provided that the police are not obligated to protect the citizens.

Also, contracts can be dissolved once one party breaks the terms. Consider that political candidates routinely commit fraud by lying. Presidents use drugs and then continue to support drug prohibition and prison upon others. Law enforcers routinely break the law and behave as criminals. People cannot be expected to abide by a social contract if the State, which imposes the contract, itself refuses to abide by the terms of the contract.

By the definitions of a contract, the social contract cannot apply.


Next, is a historical argument.

As is rightfully stated in the Declaration of Independence, government derives its just powers from the consent of the governed. If an individual does not consent to be governed, then the government does not have just power over him. As such, individuals have the right to opt out of the State's rule.

The knee-jerk response to this is usually represented by the standard Socratic social contract argument, “Well, if you don't like it then leave.”

That is really an incredible statement coming from supporters of the U.S. Government considering the history of the U.S.'s formation as found in the Declaration of Independence. It is widely acknowledged that the Revolutionary War was both just and moral. As such, it is highly celebrated. The revolutionists did not leave the geographic area when they rejected the king. It was quite the opposite. They kept their claims to the land and killed their oppressors. It has already been recognized that the consent of the governed can be withdrawn independently of geographic bounds.

It would be hypocritical to say that it is acceptable for the country to be founded by withdrawing consent to be governed while retaining claims to the land and then say that it is unacceptable for others to do exactly the same thing to the government that set the precedent.

As a side note, this does bring to light the fatal flaw of the “founding fathers” who are usually regarded in high esteem. After advocating that government derives its just powers from the consent of the governed and violently rebelling from an oppressive regime, the very first thing they did was to impose a constitution and a federal government upon their neighbors who objected to and did not consent to be ruled by such. These actions make the “founding fathers” some of the biggest hypocrites in history as they engaged in exactly the same evil behaviors to which they so vehemently rejected.


The social contract is immoral.

Individuals are the sole owners of their own bodies, their actions, and the effects of their actions in the form of their property.

To reject this claim is to advocate the belief that everyone else owns at least some part of every individual. The social contract serves as this excuse for social control; but, in reality, regardless of how numerous or how powerful they may be, others have no moral claim to own anyone's property, their actions, or their body because humans cannot own each other. The notion of human ownership is the essence of the social contract and where one party, in this case society, exercises non-consensual control over those around them.

Humankind has advanced to the point where everyone recognizes these kinds of actions to be immoral when performed by an individual. The next step is to recognize that these actions are immoral when performed in the name of the State which only gains its power from groups of individuals.

Just like I cannot grant my consent to allow your life to be violated, society cannot grant its collective consent to allow others' lives to be violated.


And lastly, the idea of a social contract is just ridiculous.

Imagine a contract under which a person can bind someone else's unborn children according to their rules and monetary obligations. This “contract” would be laughable. The child would not have to vote to “change the system” or leave his home to be unbound by this contract. The contract would be unenforceable because it is immoral. It does not and cannot legitimately exist.

Yet, groups of people do this through the State where they bind unborn generations to their “constitutions” and laws and pass onto them “sovereign debt” obligations. Then when the children oppose these conditions they are told that they are bound by a social contract and if they do not like it then they must either vote to change it (with futility) or they must leave.

As can be seen, there is substantial hypocrisy between the acceptable actions of individuals and the actions of collective individuals who call themselves a “government.” People cannot create a collective social contract when they cannot morally form exactly the same kind of contract individually.

We're also told that we're born into society and therefore into the social contract. Last time I checked, minors under the age of 18 cannot be bound by contracts.

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I hope that you found this post great! Gives people lots of Ammunition to refute the entire 'Social Contract' concept.
178  Other / MultiBit / Re: MultiBit on: December 31, 2012, 02:57:37 AM

Well I've ended up making a clone of your branch:

https://code.google.com/r/da2ce7-bitcoinj/source/list?name=jim

this has my own patches to it. (and I've rebased it upon the google/bitcoinj latest head).
179  Other / MultiBit / Re: MultiBit on: December 31, 2012, 02:34:22 AM
Bugfix for bitcoinj on windows:
https://code.google.com/r/da2ce7-bitcoinj/source/detail?r=45641ba50c090a82e48b1d0e901191e4eb185a51
180  Other / MultiBit / Re: MultiBit on: December 26, 2012, 12:45:22 AM
where is com.google.bitcoin.crypto ?

I cannot find it either in Bitcoinj or Multibit.
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