Hmmmm, wouldn't it be wild if he needed some time to recover a little, and that means we see less of him, and maybe his recovery takes around 90 ish days.


When are the mid terms again ?


I am half kidding, I am sure he will probably be back speaking unintelligible gibberish, reading autocue cues out loud, falling upstairs, falling over/off bikes, shaking hands with invisible people etc, in a few days. I can't wait!

Good call!

Short them.

+1


People here when confronted with actual serious events which will directly effect everyone = "who cares, why get worked up"


People here re Elon = "outrage, scorn, emotion worked up" - and yet whatever he does will have zero to no negative (or positive) impact on them whatsoever in anyway shape or form.

Go figure.

Personally I do not love the guy nor hate him.. I do find people that are all "Elon is dumb" are likely projecting, and likely will never achieve 1% of what he has achieved (for himself)..... nor will I btw.


lols


ps "paper hands" "not a real bitcoiner" whatever one of those is - literally still has AT LEAST 7000 BTC that we know of - ermm.....

Perhaps, and perhaps specifically it was to do with the bots.

Personally I do not care what happens with the deal, I would LOVE to see Twitter under the microscope on this issue though in court, very much.

I reckon it probably does not end up in court thou

I do not think it is a lame excuse in the slightest.... I think it is a very pertinent question.... the most important question relating to the twitter business model full stop.  Did they ever cough up solid data on it? thought the deal was contingent on that ?


I mean, like elon or not, believe he ever wanted to buy Twitter or not... and how far the deal got or not... "how many of the users on Twitter are bots" is not a lame question, or lame reason to quash the deal imo, IF you believe that the data provided is not accurate.


We have all seen how Twitter operate too, lets not pretend they are some company with high morals, they are actually a very scummy company, that has insisted in sticking its beak where they have absolutely no right to be, at the highest of levels. Screw Twitter tbh.


ps - either way, as casual observer, and one that has issues with social media companies and how they have behaved.... I really hope it goes to court, and , regardless of how it turns out, that there is some scrutiny and discovery and disclosure around the issue of bots/spam accounts. That would be, for me, the most interesting thing out of the whole shebang by far.  I would also like to see these social media companies be forced to decide, are they telecommunications based companies, or are they publishers with basically editorial control? They seem to want it both ways (and if they want to be afforded the protections of not being classed as publishers, then , they should not be imposing their political views and biases... and if they are to be effectively considered as publishers, then, well, bye bye social media companies as we know them, they will get sued into oblivion)   

Did he even mean to say that? I mean, the guy does not know what he is doing or saying most of the time. Or was he referring to the melanomas he had removed?


Yup... Kamala is not exactly popular even within the party, nor with the public.


The problem the Dems have got, and why they ended up with the dodgy old retard, is because he is one of the few candidates that had any real "brand awareness"


Buttigieg is another clown... I mean, christ, Gabbard would better pick imo, at least she can sometimes talk a little common sense/show some moral fibre.... but you know, its the case of the shiniest turd tbh.


Same with the UK at the moment.... no leaders, just a bunch of career politicians, who are talentless twats.




Much like the situation in the UK .... the dems just simply do not have any leaders of any calibre, or even a decent spokesman.  


 

.....one thing that will happen for sure if they actually go to court, is Twitter will have to actually disclose accurate bot figures...as I am sure that will be brought to the fore, or at least Twitter will face some serious scrutiny there, with somebodies neck(s) on the line. I am not so sure they want to do that.

It would be interesting if they did "trade" .... could make sense at that size tbh.... be interested to see their next couple of quarters accounts.


One snag with accepting BTC for Teslas, is, why would most people effectively sell BTC for a mass production car that, as with most cars, will end up on a scrap heap. I personally always thought the most likely reason Tesla stopped accepting BTC was because they had hardly anyone willing to buy a tesla with their BTC, but who knows.







 

+1

Don't Tesla still hold 7000+ BTC?  I wonder if they will buy back before or around 29K again...


I also wonder how many BTC Elon now owns personally.

lols


 

Make or break on this rally right about here.....  (at least for this short tf zone... this is one of the potential rejection points)

Netherlands somewhere probs ?

Pretty much!  am enjoying it though.


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On a lighter note.... this cracked me up ! =



https://youtube.com/shorts/skLyqtBhLUA?feature=share


"Let me tell you something !!! wait wait wait wait!!"

"Double check!! Double check!! Safety"  


"AHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH!!!!"


LMAO , too funny.

Like? which facts do you refer to ? in the preceding few messages I have posted , to which this is a reply to, here are some of the assertions I have made:

There was a orchestrated coup in Ukraine during and after Maidan square - this is a fact, widely discussed and widely accepted by serious analysists. There was nothing organic about it, and Obamas administration 100% did "broker a power deal to transition in the NEW (unelected) government"  at the time.

The actions that happened previously to Feb 2022  - have a very real bearing on what is happening today.

"Democracy" in Ukraine is not well established, and they have not been behaving like a democratic state, just ask the journalists placed in prison in the Ukraine for doing their job, same shit that Putin pulls.


Ukraine is , and has been a long time in "Russia sphere of influence"  - (even if I or you do not like it) a lot more so than any of the wars orchestrated by the west over the past 30 years.....


Russia has the right to take actions it deems as necessary to take strategic and defensive/offensive actions - (even if I or you do not like it) Just like the USA and Europe asserts this as their right.  (and of course the Ukraine has the right to fight back)

There is a very real, widely discussed, and very well documented game of "tit for tat" between NATO and Russia in Europe, no secret here, and further exacerbated by the issues of "nuclear defence shields" , this is a long running and ongoing and very well documented situation....which did not start on Feb of this year.  (and in this regard the allies and NATO, use Ukraine as a pawn, just like the Russians do)  

The death toll in Yemen is far greater than in Ukraine.

People somehow want to justify that "Yemenis are not as important as Ukrainians" somehow  (this argument has been made here several times by several people) They are just as important , and I will state this as a fact. (In fact I have more to say about the US and allies support of Saudi, and their war in Yemen, as, unlike with what is happening with Russia, I pay my taxes (and vote) in a western nation, that is supporting the war in Yemen. I pay no taxes to the Russian regime, BIG DIFFERENCE)


The actions of the west and the allies, just over the past 30-40 years alone, the wars, regime changes, financial war, trade war etc have been incredibly destructive in terms of blood and treasure, to many many nations,  and given this, the west has no moral standing to be pointing fingers at anyone. I really wish this was not the case, but it is.


I think that about covers the most recent of my assertions in relation to the Ukraine and Russia situation... not one of those I believe is even in the slightest bit controversial.

I believe them all to be verifiable facts, and I believe there is indeed some nuance in there compared to "Putler has lost his mind" ......

I should not have to repeat, that I do not support either war, not in Ukraine and not in Yemen... I have made that perfectly , crystal clear.  I just do not pretend this all happened in a vacuum and that it all started in Feb 2022, because it didn't.

(ps, and to refer back to my original statement, and the replies......acknowledging any of this ^^, does not make me somehow "love putin" - that is just....... ridiculous)  

Back to the sun....


Its 35 degrees here already in the UK today....



PEACE

Says the guy who has zero objectivity.... and repeats any old news to cheerlead on , does not matter if its nonsense or not?


I am not bias, I have no horse in this race at all,  and I am not telling any lies....I am just being objective and looking at the larger picture, and taking into account the actions the have led us here over the past decades (this did not just appear out of nowhere in February..... OBVIOUSLY) 


Yes nuance and facts, things that have been analysed and dissected and found to be true, way BEFORE Russia invaded Ukraine this year. Before the whole world jumped on the "latest thing to be woke about"


Also, the wests "support of Ukraine" on a state level, has EXACTLY ZERO to do with "helping the people of Ukraine" they could not give a shit, Ukraine and its people are mere pawns in a much larger game, to the USA and allies, and to Russia.  They could not give a shit. Just calling it as it is.

Anyways, sunshine is calling....  too nice to be sat at a screen.

PEACE.

You really are out of touch if you do not understand , there very much was a coup, you keep adding the word "military" to the word coup. There was a coup, and anyone serious about the topic knows this to be the case, what happened in Maidan was NOT ORGANIC.  IT WAS ORGANISED !  The end goal was REGIME CHANGE and INSTALLATION OF A PUPPET REGIME , IN WHICH THEY SUCEEDED.
Obamas administration "brokered a power deal" there, none of it was organic.


I have clearly stated I do not support either war, why try and put words in my mouth?


The reason why Russia is involved in the Ukraine, now, is very much the same reason that the United States would be involved in lets say Mexico, if the Russians orchestrated a coup there, and installed a puppet government.  Ukraine is in Russia's sphere of influence. The entire Ukraine and Russia issue is too much to go into here, but that basically sums it up.


You are wrong about NATO encroachment, as is obvious by the NATO expansion over the years along the Russian front, and by the minsk accord fiasco. Not to mention the battle of the "nuclear defence shields" in Europe, and Nato claiming they have no offensive capability is just not true. Both Russia and NATO/USA/ALLIES have been ramping up the entire arena for decades now... this is not an opinion, it is just a sound fact. Takes two to tango, and they are both tangoing.... no getting away from that.


None of it is good.


Being objective, the west is no angel, and pretending it is so is kinda daft, when the past 30 years alone, tells its own story....


Fact is the unipolar world, has already been shuffled, times have changed, it is not 1990 anymore.... and our politicians and tptb have , as usual, done a super crappy job.


ps, I never said Zelensky was in power in 2014.

pps, they had an election yes, how democratic it was in reality, I would not like to guess, yes, maybe as reliable as the Russian elections. However, the point still stands, Ukraine does not behave like a democratic state either, they pretend when it suits them. Also, Zelensky, does not have a good track record, and has certainly not treated the press there as a democratic leader would ,anymore than Putin has.  Annnnnnnd, the answer to "Ukraine is hardly a democracy, and does not behave like a democratic state" is not "Russia", two separate issues.