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541  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: May 09, 2022, 07:34:48 PM
Drainnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnaggggge !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
542  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: May 09, 2022, 07:24:50 PM
543  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: May 09, 2022, 06:55:21 PM


https://youtu.be/i0GW0Vnr9Yc
544  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: May 09, 2022, 06:41:21 PM
lets just rearrange some of these deck chairs........


Whats that? a complimentary glass of Hindenburg beer?


Don't mind if I do .....


Lovely view up here.


lols
545  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: May 09, 2022, 06:19:20 PM



...... BOO!
546  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: May 09, 2022, 11:42:48 AM
Basically, they forced all the exchanges to have a version of the stable coin as a 'sovereign currency' and to be allowed to participate in the US for example, they need to buy from the FED an amount of USD to counter the crypto they have on their exchange, or a part of it. They issue on the amount the exchange say they have "disposed" and they get a cut.  Shocked  Shocked
It works that simple !  Grin  Grin

Can you flesh this out ?

and or post source?



^ Something similar happened to all exchanges that wanted to be allowed in the US market. You get it now??  Tongue   Huh  Shocked  Roll Eyes  Roll Eyes
 


I always "got you" in what you are trying to say


Just wondering how you got there bro....and if you had any source to share, so we can all have a read on the details.


Also, when you say the exchanges, had to buy from "the FED", an amount of USD.... what does that look like?



547  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: May 08, 2022, 10:10:27 PM
Some insane Orange coin bad stuff


Jorge is full bore deranged
548  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: May 08, 2022, 10:08:40 PM
Basically, they forced all the exchanges to have a version of the stable coin as a 'sovereign currency' and to be allowed to participate in the US for example, they need to buy from the FED an amount of USD to counter the crypto they have on their exchange, or a part of it. They issue on the amount the exchange say they have "disposed" and they get a cut.  Shocked  Shocked
It works that simple !  Grin  Grin

Can you flesh this out ?

and or post source?
549  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: May 08, 2022, 10:00:49 PM
550  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: May 08, 2022, 09:57:06 PM
lmao


talking of the devil.....


I was wondering what happened to this guy....


now I know.


https://amycastor.com/tag/jorge-stolfi/


Seems like he is mucho butt hurtado too

Check his "letter" out


https://www.ic.unicamp.br/~stolfi/bitcoin/2022-04-18-SEC-comment-on-grayscale-etf.html


Comment to US SEC about the
2021 Grayscale ETF proposal
(File No. SR-NYSEArca-2021-90)
Subject: File No. SR-NYSEArca-2021-90
From: "Jorge Stolfi" <stolfi@ic.unicamp.br>
Date: Mon, April 18, 2022 1:46 pm
To: rule-comments@sec.gov

Dear SEC,

Please DO NOT authorize the Grayscale bitcoin ETF. The reasons why you rejected previous ETF proposals are still valid and should be sufficient to deny this one (and any future ones) as well.

But if you need any other reasons:

Bitcoin Is a Tool of Crime
Bitcoin's only significant use as money and payment system is as a money laundering tool for criminals. It alone created the epidemic of ransomware, a virtually unknown form of attack that has now become the major form of cybercrime, globally and in the US:
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From this article:

"A 2017 report from Cybersecurity Ventures predicted ransomware damages would cost the world $5 billion (USD) in 2017, up from $325 million in 2015 — a 15X increase in just two years. The damages for 2018 were predicted to reach $8 billion, for 2019 the figure was $11.5 billion, and in 2021 it’s $20 billion — which is 57x more than it was in 2015."

Bitcoin has also allowed the existence and flourishing of the the so-called "dark markets", notably the drugs-by-mail sector, which has caused thousands of excess deaths by fentanyl and fentanyl-laced heroin overdoses among teenagers.

From this recent article:

"Two-thirds of the approximately 70,000 overdose deaths in the U.S. in 2017 involved an opioid, according to the U.S. Centers for Disease Control and Prevention. Overdose deaths involving the drugs have increased almost sixfold during the past two decades. ... The DEA official said estimates of illicit transactions, including for drugs, conducted in bitcoin reach $76 billion annually ... 'Now, it’s more prevalent than before. [said police Sgt. Joshua Lee of the Mesa, Arizona] Bad guys are realizing they’re less likely to get caught if they move stuff to the dark web.'"

In these roles, bitcoin has taken the place of the defunct rogue a replacement for the defunct internet "criminal bank" Liberty Reserve, for the same reason: it is the only available internet payment system that totally ignores KYC/AML laws. For this same reason, thousands of other commercial and investment frauds have chosen to use bitcoin as the payment method. While some law enforcement agencies may have grown fond of Bitcoin, because they got tracing tools that let them catch small criminals with little effort, the vast majority of the perpetrators of Bitcoin-enabled crimes go unsolved and unpunished.

In contrast, Bitcoin has failed to gain any acceptance as a currency or payment system for legal commerce or other legal economic activity, in spite of 10 years of intense promotion towards that goal. That is not surprising once one learns that it is absolutely awful at those roles, in all aspects. Its value is way too volatile to use as money, often varying by more than 10% in a matter of minutes. Its network is *inherently* expensive to operate, currently consuming more than 50 USD of electricity per transaction processed. The time for the network to confirm validity and execution of a payment ranges from 10 *minutes* to several weeks, depending on load (whereas credit cards confirm in about 10 *seconds*). And any more.

Would the SEC authorize an ETF whose portfolio is to consist exclusively of shares of a taxi company whose services are restricted to getaway rides for bank robberies? Or of a construction company that specializes in secret tunnels under the Rio Grande? Or of a shipping company whose fleet is a dozen pocket submarines plying the Colombia-Florida route?

Bitcoin Is a Huge Ponzi Scheme
Bitcoin is widely and loudly promoted (even by GBTC and its founding investors) as an investment instrument, a better alternative to stocks, bonds, and gold. However, Bitcoins are quite unlike gold, because they have no consuming demand: uses that would take them out of the market in an essentially permanent basis (like jewelry and industry do with gold). Thus they don't have the intrinsic value that gold, like any commodity, has. Bitcoins are also quite unlike stocks, because there is no source of revenue (like the clients of a company) that will return to the holders of Bitcoins a single penny of their investment, in any form or by any means. And they are unlike bonds, because there is no entity that has any obligation to redeem those coins, at any future time and for any predefined price.

The only way for a Bitcoin investor to recover his investment, let alone make a profit from it, is by selling the coins to another investor. Thus Bitcoin perfectly fits the definition of Ponzi scheme, as given in dictionaries and by the SEC itself:

"A Ponzi scheme is an investment fraud that pays existing investors with funds collected from new investors."

In fact, Bitcoin is not just a zero-sum con game, as the definition implies. The operators of the network (the so-called "miners") are still issuing new coins, about 900 per day, which they sell to investors. Thus Bitcoin investors, as a whole, are losing money -- about 40 million USD every day. From 2009 to the present, it is easily calculated that all the people who ever bought any Bitcoins have spent at least 20 billion USD more buying than they received selling. Since there is no other source of money in the game than the investors themselves, that net loss (half of which accumulated in the past two years) cannot ever decrease. As long as Bitcoin will have a positive market price, that loss is mathematically guaranteed to increase.

The main losers of the Bitcoin Ponzi are estimated to be several million believers, mostly with low or no income, who keep "investing" their savings and spare money into this "revolutionary asset", believing that they are getting richer -- when actually, as in any Ponzi, they lost their money the moment they "invested" it. But there are a few winners, who, having bought hundreds of thousands of coins many years ago, have now became *really* rich --billionaires even -- by taking the money of those victims.

Would the SEC authorize an ETF whose portfolio is defined to consist only of lottery tickets, or slots in an investment pyramid, or franchises of an MLM fraud, or shares of a penny stock that is being pumped up and sold to pensioners through email spam?

Conclusion
Bitcoin does not provide any benefits for society; on the contrary, it has caused enormous damage; and this balance cannot ever improve, because the technology is inherently wasteful, impractical, illegal, and insecure.

By logic, the SEC should assert its regulatory authority over ALL cryptocurrencies (since they do tick all the boxes of the Howey Test), then ban the sale and promotion of Bitcoin and any derivative financial instruments, and criminally prosecute its operators, sellers, promoters, brokers, exchange operators, and all those who have profited from it -- just as they have historically done with the participants of other Ponzi schemes. The US is indeed losing its lead on "blockchain technology", "decentralized finance", and "Web 3.0" to China -- because China already banned all that toxic financial scam-fest, while the US still did not.

I understand the operational and political obstacles that currently prevent the SEC from taking this very necessary course of action. But, at the very least, the SEC should clearly warn the public about the inherent Ponzi and money laundering nature of Bitcoin; and state clearly that any proposals for securities that are in any way based on Bitcoin will be henceforth rejected ipso facto, without further analysis or discussion.

Sincerely,

Jorge Stolfi
Ph. D. in Computer Science, Stanford University, 1988
Full Professor, Computer Science Institute of the
State University of Campinas (UNICAMP), Brazil

PS. I should note that, while I am not a citizen or resident of the US, the decisions of the SEC will strongly affect my country, because our financial regulators generally follow the examples and policies of their US counterparts. In particular, they are unlikely to take any action against the cryptocurrency plague as long as the SEC continues to ignore it. That is why I feel compelled to contribute this response to your request for comments.

Last edited on 2022-04-18 14:23:41 by stolfi


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551  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: May 08, 2022, 08:16:03 PM

The goal is to destroy all the crypto, not protect it.    Roll Eyes   Roll Eyes

Sure sure, I was just wondering if there was any there , there, for this particular story, failed FOIA/FOIL requests is not that uncommon..

I hear ya though, I mean Bitfinex has had a few legal issues over the years and been investigated etc, but this tether thing has always appeared to be a bit of a magical mystery box.


Maybe they wanna use lawfare to reach that deutsche bank too big to fail status before they rip the band aid off lol....


What makes you think delist by sept?
552  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: May 08, 2022, 07:27:40 PM

https://twitter.com/bitcoinmemelib
553  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: May 08, 2022, 07:06:25 PM

ANALYSIS



Sure, we could well maybe be hitting a bouncy region perhaps here-ish or a little lower, 31-33k ish, but then if we bounce and go and form another lower high... then look out
554  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: May 08, 2022, 06:59:49 PM
I like how no one is paying attention.


ALL EXCHANGES WILL REMOVE TETHER FROM USE BY SEPTEMBER 23.


Reason: USDT (a.k.a. Tether) it is the propriety technology of the United States Federal Reserve Bank.

And after the network was bought and transferred ownership to the FED. They have a deal cut with the SEC to let them issue as much quantity as they want, just because they can print it.


Manipulation... BRRRRRRRRRRR!!!  Roll Eyes  Roll Eyes

I would have appreciated this big black subheading with a source.



https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2NzUm7UEEIY



The only entity that can deny public government information is the government.  Cool  Cool


FOIA & FOIL requests of all sorts are often bounced back and passed around/buck passed...
555  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: May 08, 2022, 06:45:49 PM
I like how no one is paying attention.


ALL EXCHANGES WILL REMOVE TETHER FROM USE BY SEPTEMBER 23.


Reason: USDT (a.k.a. Tether) it is the propriety technology of the United States Federal Reserve Bank.

And after the network was bought and transferred ownership to the FED. They have a deal cut with the SEC to let them issue as much quantity as they want, just because they can print it.


Manipulation... BRRRRRRRRRRR!!!  Roll Eyes  Roll Eyes


que?

Exactly!  Cheesy  Cheesy


Everyone just got duped.  Roll Eyes  Cool  Roll Eyes


*edit: So now the logic stands like this, if BTC & other stuff is limited and USDT is unlimited. Then.. What will happen next??  Shocked  Shocked



.... I am not the biggest fan of Jan van der Velde, and as for Raphael Nicolle and Giancarlo Devasini , they are pretty much ghosts.

Bitfinex is a zombie... ie seems they have been killed multiple times over but never die... which is curious.

But, just curious what makes you say what you say they will delist in September and why you think the FED are the real owners?


Their "commercial paper" declarations need to be audited for sure, seeing as out of the "cash & cash equivalents & deposits /commercial Paper" which apparently accounts for 83% of their holdings, well out of that only 6% is cash held in banks, and the rest is 36% commercial paper and 52% treasury bills.


Whaddya make of this ?  (note that their latest reports are far slightly more detailed than the Friedman and Deltec "letters"


https://tether.to/en/transparency/#reports

https://tether.to/en/transparency/

and this the latest "report" they commissioned, the rest of their "audits" are listed there too =

https://assets.ctfassets.net/vyse88cgwfbl/4hiNJsZ98LlZqCJHKzrLpV/2b6338482ef0093382885f80ba6f1083/Tether_Assurance-12-31-21.pdf

vs the original "reports" ie =

 https://assets.ctfassets.net/vyse88cgwfbl/7ow3ykSHqpJloiIunVvi0B/3e3e4738ee0b7ff1fb492e9d28757604/Final-Tether-Consulting-Report-9-15-17_Redacted.pdf

& Deltec "report" (this one is "hilarious")  

https://assets.ctfassets.net/vyse88cgwfbl/RPHIloRD3eE4J5QYNRnYX/bed2f368b73776c14e067088028f8a5c/Tether-Letter.pdf


Interestingly Tether issuances vs redemptions are apparently around 20:1 atm, with the two largest buyers being Cumberland Global (DRW investments) and Alameda.


Personally, not a fan of the Tether system.... nor Bitfinex, I got royally butt fucked by them years ago.  

But then I am not sure on Bitfinex'd either tbh.

I do not imagine that Tether going down should it happen is going to be pretty at all , least not in the short to medium term.


I hold exactly zero tether, but would be interested in reading any source material you have though...




556  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: May 08, 2022, 05:31:44 PM
I like how no one is paying attention.


ALL EXCHANGES WILL REMOVE TETHER FROM USE BY SEPTEMBER 23.


Reason: USDT (a.k.a. Tether) it is the propriety technology of the United States Federal Reserve Bank.

And after the network was bought and transferred ownership to the FED. They have a deal cut with the SEC to let them issue as much quantity as they want, just because they can print it.


Manipulation... BRRRRRRRRRRR!!!  Roll Eyes  Roll Eyes


que?
557  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: May 08, 2022, 06:14:35 AM


TLDR - basically a mental breakdown

Bro Really How much time you took to compose it.
Anyhow I got all what you said. Personally i try to avoid the Shitcoins talk reason some of Our community memeber don't like and its the rightthing that this thread is for BTC Only.

Unlike Your point of Some advancement in Shitcoins and the their experimental excersise made some inovation as the concept of tokenizing anything which seems attractive to user many of the Crypto users made Massive money from Shitcoins.


You could have snipped that, I have bitch tits on ignore so I do not have to scan through endless waffle whenever he has a mental breakdown because someone else has an opinion.
558  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: May 08, 2022, 12:14:01 AM
pps, the more time we spend below $48.3K, the more I feel like it is possible we go and visit the 55MA, on the ........


MONTHLY


SLUT

That's exactly what theytm want you to think  Grin


.......but I would be happy either way, I only see a win win either way.


And actually its what the chart makes me think (is one of various possibilities obvs) ..... and if you think that the chart is that easily painted......... then that ain't exactly great is it?


Also, it is not that far out of the realms of possibility huh...... I mean the 55 on the monthly is rising pretty aggressively, if I wanted to be more bearish could call the 200 weekly.

Or I could point you to past cycles.....

Either way, there is no reason for joy imo to the upside on the macro until we are over 48.3k at the very least...though guess you could say there is no medium term doooooom, unless we break 33K
  
(ps also, if it does take that route, you never know where the 55 is by then)


(pps- If we put in a higher low on the monthly, or weekly, then that would be great, but atm, price is trending down on weekly, volatility is expanding on the weekly, as MACD turning down, stochastic is turning down , and will not turn up unless we clear 44K, the 10-55ma's all drooping.... dunno, I smell the opportunity for continuation to the downside alongside expanding volatility.....below 31k is aids imo, least to the 55 )

(ppps, if we put in strong support anywhere above 31-33, and create new higher lows, rally a little, come back down test support, maybe some sideways in there.... then off to the races, that would not surprise me either.....nor if we almost insta nuked it to 59K and beyond. ....none of it would surprise me tbh)



Actually I'm clueless how easy it is to paint the chart. However, I guess if theytm could manipulate Gold they surely can do it with the BTC market.

As I said before, it's the chance for the bears. They just need to push a little more to generate a totally bearish sentiment...  Damn I mean even PlanB is getting bearish.. 

Then, with everyone being bearish it will be a good time to enter the disbelief phase...




yuh, could be could be, well it will be at some point no doubt about it.... and that could be here ish or..... it could be somewhere around the 55 on the monthly....


No crystal ball here though.


Apart from........long term, boolish AF.


559  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: May 07, 2022, 11:06:25 PM
pps, the more time we spend below $48.3K, the more I feel like it is possible we go and visit the 55MA, on the ........


MONTHLY


SLUT

That's exactly what theytm want you to think  Grin


.......but I would be happy either way, I only see a win win either way.


And actually its what the chart makes me think (is one of various possibilities obvs) ..... and if you think that the chart is that easily painted......... then that ain't exactly great is it?


Also, it is not that far out of the realms of possibility huh...... I mean the 55 on the monthly is rising pretty aggressively, if I wanted to be more bearish could call the 200 weekly.

Or I could point you to past cycles.....

Either way, there is no reason for joy imo to the upside on the macro until we are over 48.3k at the very least...though guess you could say there is no medium term doooooom, unless we break 33K
  
(ps also, if it does take that route, you never know where the 55 is by then)


(pps- If we put in a higher low on the monthly, or weekly, then that would be great, but atm, price is trending down on weekly, volatility is expanding on the weekly, as MACD turning down, stochastic is turning down , and will not turn up unless we clear 44K, the 10-55ma's all drooping.... dunno, I smell the opportunity for continuation to the downside alongside expanding volatility.....below 31k is aids imo, least to the 55 )

(ppps, if we put in strong support anywhere above 31-33, and create new higher lows, rally a little, come back down test support, maybe some sideways in there.... then off to the races, that would not surprise me either.....nor if we almost insta nuked it to 59K and beyond. ....none of it would surprise me tbh)

560  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: May 07, 2022, 08:46:00 PM
pps, the more time we spend below $48.3K, the more I feel like it is possible we go and visit the 55MA, on the ........


MONTHLY


SLUT
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