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701  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: April 14, 2022, 08:00:38 PM
https://www.coindesk.com/business/2022/04/13/jack-dorseys-first-tweet-nft-went-on-sale-for-48m-it-ended-with-a-top-bid-of-just-280/


Iranian-born crypto entrepreneur Sina Estavi purchased the NFT for $2.9 million in March 2021. Last Thursday, he announced on Twitter that he wished to sell the NFT, and pledged 50% of its proceeds (which he thought would exceed $25 million) to charity. The auction closed Wednesday, with just seven total offers ranging from 0.09 ETH ($277 at current prices) to 0.0019 ETH (almost $6).

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loooooool



....ouch


https://www.coindesk.com/layer2/2022/04/13/buyer-of-jack-dorsey-tweet-nft-is-out-of-prison-and-under-fire-from-investors/


The lad is having a bad year

Are NFTs still a thing?

How quaint.

Those pixel art jpeg things?   .... only for the very rich or the brain dead it seems...

For me, other than as discussed earlier, defo not a thing.

Quaint they are indeed... mental in most cases tbh imo

ps good to see you are still kickin Jimbo
702  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: April 14, 2022, 07:57:55 PM
Onto real talk ... and talking about "evading sanctions"


https://www.coindesk.com/policy/2022/04/14/eus-crypto-activism-gets-mixed-reception-at-paris-blockchain-week/


How do folks feel about the latest from the geniuses in the EU parliament?
703  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: April 14, 2022, 07:45:21 PM
704  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: April 14, 2022, 07:37:18 PM
stuff


I hear what you are saying....


...however


If I want to mention ETH here I will, if I want to mention a broader crypto topic I will...  as you mentioned, this board DOES indeed devolve into a massive selection of topics, and whilst you think that "throttling "shitcoin" talk" is this boards main strength... I in turn think it is the anti censorship aspect of the thread.

Everyone has access to the "ignore" function, it is super easy to use.


Personally I am not married to any of these damn craptocurrencies,  but I find it , hilarious tbh that some people are so strongly allergic to "shitcoins" that , you make a post , say about a guy who ended up in prison after they travelled to NK, and "helped NK evade sanctions" and somehow, because he has been involved with Ethereum, that suddenly , one feels the need to spazz out and start hyperventilating and barking about "shitcoins/shitcoiner"  .... I mean it is hardly like the topic I posted was about shitcoins, and it was hardly a shill for Ethereum.


Btw, Ethereum defo very much exists, and, regardless of ones maximalism within their own portfolio, which is entirely their choice... but braying at the moon "THERE CAN BE ONLY ONE" is , kinda inane and does not in reality, match reality in any way shape or form.


Also, is it worth making the point that many of these craptocurrencies are chalk and cheese, they are not even attempting to be the same thing, not even close.

Also, there are shitcoins, no doubt, total pieces of shyte, but, then there are other blockchain projects that are kinda cool, and making headways in their own right, and plenty of "midcaps" again some , maybe even MOST, are crap but some are not.

I do not make the argument that this thread should become a altcoin discussion thread , far from it, ... but come on guys, it isn't ever going to, and making a loose reference to a craptocurrency other than Bitcoin, is hardly a reason to break out into hives and start barking shitcoin and labelling people who happen to mention one a "shitcoiner tourist" and the like...

My biggest bug about it, in honesty, is it very much reminds me of the "never coiner" dynamic... its very similar in terms of closemindedness. Its the same sort of rhetoric coming from a bitcoin maximalist as ones from a never coiner, literally the same mechanism at play.


For what it is worth.... I know very very very few "shitcoiners"  that are not in fact "Bitcoiners" 1st, and "shitcoiners" 2nd.

Annnnnnnnnnnnyways..... said my piece now, and imma not ram it down peoples throats, I am pretty sure that we  can all get along, and I for one am now over the convo, I have nothing to add on the topic and so I won't


Bitcoin is obviously king, obvs.  


  
705  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: April 14, 2022, 06:18:25 PM
stuff


Bro, I am just too long in the tooth for it, I cannot abide that little angry dog nipping at your ankles vibe from anyone... its fucking annoying, and I will tell anyone that does it to go and take a running jump.

As for "shitcoins" and "maximalists" yeah yeah, I am aware that it is a hot topic for some, for whatever reasons,  which I often personally view as being extreme, dogmatic, narrow minded.. but each to their own...

What is good for the goose is good for the gander, and I do believe that a good natured ribbing in regards to the topic, in either direction, is fair game... and I personally do not let it ruffle my feathers.

What ruffles my feathers a little, and I mean a little,  is the angry little dog nipping at your ankles vibe, for no reason , maybe they got out of bed the wrong way, or maybe they have a stick up their ass for whatever reason, or maybe they are projecting something onto others , that is in fact just in their imagination... either which way, I do not care its just boring and annoying, and imma gunna tell them to fuck off.  

Either communicate straight up , like a human , or get fucked.

I am not against being disagreed with , or someone taking the piss or having a laugh... but act like a bitch for no reason, and , I will after a three or four strikes, if there is no let up , and they continue to be a bitch nipping at my ankles...  then I am going to tell them to fuck off and hit that ignore button.

It is what it is.


ps, most of the time, I am having a laugh, if anyone is in any doubt, then I am probably joking about...
 
706  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: April 14, 2022, 05:53:26 PM
707  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: April 14, 2022, 05:49:10 PM
"The value of privately held art is estimated at more than $2 trillion, and the potential market for art loans could easily top $400 billion"


"Lenders say the big opportunity — and the new risk — is in the business of reselling art loans to investors."


.... rehypothecation , and bankers go hand in hand
708  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: April 14, 2022, 05:40:57 PM


My point is there is a right way, and a dumb way to do things.  I do not think we have seen the actual utility that the NFT concept provides.  But it took a while with tokens, too.


Agreed.
709  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: April 14, 2022, 05:22:08 PM
https://www.cnbc.com/2021/02/25/the-wealthy-are-borrowing-billions-against-their-art-collections-.html

https://www.privatebank.bankofamerica.com/articles/your-art-collection-as-loan-collateral.html


https://www.widewalls.ch/magazine/borrowing-against-art-collection


Guess the idea would be to disintermediate the existing players, in a industry worth billions... whilst also creating an easier path to investment in art for the average joe.


Not the worst idea to do this via blockchain nfts/shards


Like I said, not married to it, but interesting enough... and I bet the margins could be improved for the collectors vs using the already established players in the industry.


I would not be surprised, at all to see this come to fruition...  funnily enough , I was told about this by someone involved with art collectors (serious serious mega art collectors)

710  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: April 14, 2022, 04:57:55 PM
I mean a NFT that represents a real world asset is sorta more interesting......

Is it now?

Here is my NFT for sale for a 1000g gold bar. I'll even sell it to you for 20% off of spot price....




Obviously there needs to be a mechanism in place to verify that the nft confers ownership of said asset... or even a "shard" of the NFT that represents the asset..   Art collectors, for example, I believe in the end could possibly embrace this model, for various reasons..  for example, art collectors, currently, have serious funds locked up in their collections... now imagine that an art collector can sell, via "shards" effectively shares of individual pieces of art..  but the collector maintains a "controlling share" of said piece of art.  The art itself, remains, in verified lockups, or gallery's. (Yes there would need to be a legal framework that is established for this, but this could be done via a legal framework within a DAO, coupled with a "established custody solution for the underlying asset".

This then enables an art collector to release equity from their collection, whilst maintaining control of the art. Which in turn enables them to speculate and purchase even more art to add to their collections... For the buyer of the nft shard, it allows a way to speculate on the appreciation of the art, without having to cough up for an entire Monet...

Tbh there are for sure other mechanisms whereby this could be achieved.. but NFT shards which represent partial share of a minority share of art, could be one way it is done...

Would it be entirely "trustless" , in truth no, there would still be some counterparty risk involved with the custody solution... and in theory the warehouse/gallery/vault etc could be robbed or burned down/flooded/involved in a boating accident etc..  but then I suppose there could be some insurance set up that is coupled with the custody solution.

Does this really solve a real world problem? hmmmmm not a huge one ... but it could be a interesting way to "democratise and decentralise and distribute" art speculation..  and also, to make the whole process easier.

This whole industry of releasing equity from art collections is already done by various companies in meat life that are not connected to blockchain/NFT projects.  Its pretty big business. Could this be done by simple tokens and smart contracts sans NFT's or shards, yeah sure.  


There are various other projects that play on this theme in other niches also... property, wine etc.

Personally, I am not in a hurry to buy shards in art, but some may.

I'm not married to the idea, but I find it interesting enough to follow..
711  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: April 14, 2022, 04:01:35 PM
Well...NFT's are jus that, non fungible

so you are buying a "unique" asset.  Good luck selling that, by definition its an illiquid maket.  easy to buy, impossible to sell.
get recked fools

For sure, these.... jpegs pixel art  NFTs , are 99.99% shyte.

I mean a NFT that represents a real world asset is sorta more interesting......


but if you spend $2.9 million dollars, for a jpeg of a tweet  Cheesy  , then you deserve what you get .....
712  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: April 14, 2022, 02:59:24 PM
 https://www.coindesk.com/business/2022/04/13/jack-dorseys-first-tweet-nft-went-on-sale-for-48m-it-ended-with-a-top-bid-of-just-280/


Iranian-born crypto entrepreneur Sina Estavi purchased the NFT for $2.9 million in March 2021. Last Thursday, he announced on Twitter that he wished to sell the NFT, and pledged 50% of its proceeds (which he thought would exceed $25 million) to charity. The auction closed Wednesday, with just seven total offers ranging from 0.09 ETH ($277 at current prices) to 0.0019 ETH (almost $6).

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loooooool



....ouch


https://www.coindesk.com/layer2/2022/04/13/buyer-of-jack-dorsey-tweet-nft-is-out-of-prison-and-under-fire-from-investors/


The lad is having a bad year
713  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: April 14, 2022, 10:19:08 AM
Oh and are BTC maximalists still a thing? I thought they all died.

Whoaza......  Shocked Shocked Shocked Shocked

I had to do a double take to make sure that I was in the correct thread.



..... I hope it is obvious that I am aware there are still maximalists, I didn't really think they all died ffs, I would have thought that was obvious.






Oh and are BTC maximalists still a thing? I thought they all died.

They did. You're obviously in the "shitcoin price movement tracking & discussion" thread.

hahahahaha

suchmoon - gets it.

 Cheesy Cheesy Cheesy
 
 


Who? never heard of her.

Sounds like a name inspired by the king of all shitcoins though, the one with a dog on it?  



So there ARE still BTC maximalists? how quaint , that is just adorable .....

"A foolish consistency is the hobgoblin of little minds"

You are going to go far in this thread by ridiculing the concept of bitcoin maximalism.   Roll Eyes Roll Eyes Roll Eyes

Fame and fortune anticipated...


not.
 
 

That is alright, I have done ok so far, and most people can tell a joke when they see one, and not be little bitches in every communication they have, just for the sake of it... with some psuedo intellectual  drivel (didn't you know that North Korea is bad?) the ones that cannot , I just put on ignore after telling them to fuck off.  I come here mainly for a laugh and banter tbh, not pointless cat fights.

Just to be clear, NK , bad, no shit

There are still maximalists, no shit

I could not give a hoot if you are a maximalist or not jus to be clear, I am not some tribal hick , and people are free to do what they want, and all the power to em.

Hope I do not have to start to explain and label everything, that would ruin the fun



 
714  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: April 13, 2022, 11:28:08 PM

Sounds like gobble-dee-gook to me.

I don't know what the fuck is "crypto."

Look -m even billionaires are dumb fucks.  "I changed my mind about crypto.. I don't know what the fuck it was but now that I changed my mind about it, I still do not know what it is."  In other words, he does not know what he changed his mind about, and if anyone interviews him to find out what he is doing exactly, I hope that they can at least get him to describe what he might be doing (that is different) beyond vague ass concepts of changing his mind from one amorphous thing to another amorphous thing.




like
715  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: April 13, 2022, 11:11:30 PM

awesome recipe suggestion



...you like almond stuff?


Ever tried a Tarta de Santiago ?


Simple to make, actually really is, and sounds like you/your Mrs would bang one out... very pleasing....

For extra enjoyment, can douse a portion with a bunch of spirit just before before serving,  amaretto if you are feeling ultra nutty..... but whatever is to your own taste, ice cream on the side can work well too...



recipe (there are variations but good enough place to start) https://spanishsabores.com/tarta-de-santiago-recipe-spanish-almond-cake/
716  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: April 13, 2022, 10:03:09 PM
there is room in the world for more than one blockchain

There is room in the world for Justin Bieber too. Doesn't mean the world actually needs that.

Ermmmm you do not suppose that he was helping "NK avoid sanctions" .... with publicly available information do ya?

I'm pretty sure you can find "publicly available information" on many things, e.g. some types of weapons. Helping Kim to obtain one would still likely land you in prison.



You remind me of a child , arguing for the sake of it...

Is this really necessary ?

I'm finding it, and you, ultra low energy, and your engagements, arguments, petty, low IQ and ultra low in terms of being rewarding for me, boring, no fun, no insight.... no , anything really  and if I keep replying to you I am going to feel like a bully.

Like, wow , tell us something we did not know, NK bad? fuck me, you just blew my mind...


Feel free to ignore me and I likewise will ignore you , life is too short bro, I can't be arsed with your bollocks, I get no pleasure from it....  


adios amigo
717  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: April 13, 2022, 08:44:47 PM
Luckily enough I am not a millennial, nor am I planning on going to NK... though putting somone in prison for repeating publicly available info  , is the kind of behaviour I expect from.... the north koreans.

Except he's going to prison not for "for repeating publicly available info" but for helping NK to avoid sanctions. There is a reason the murderous dictator is under sanctions but if the shitcoiner loves him so much he should have just stayed there.

Your strawman is adorable though.



Miaow !! ha ha ha you little cat you ... miaow... did I ruffle your feathers?  diddums, there is room in the world for more than one blockchain believe it or not, or not,  that is up to you, I could not care less, if you want to make believe there is only one and only room for one... then you go ahead sunshine... more power to ya.

Ermmmm you do not suppose that he was helping "NK avoid sanctions" .... with publicly available information do ya?


Did I defend Kim ? nope. All in your imagination...  adorable


Right back at you


718  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: April 13, 2022, 07:53:56 PM
mandlebrot

btw, Thats cool, a mandlebrot made of images of Benoit Mandelbrot, like it.

I would love to go to Mongolia























(ps, sorry not sorry)


719  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: April 13, 2022, 06:08:30 PM


Who are those old farts?!?   Grin  Cheesy
Actors? Politicians??
Tongue  Roll Eyes

 





They are characters , from Trading Places, Randolph & Mortimer Duke....  
720  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: April 13, 2022, 05:43:38 PM
I like mandelbrots, mandelbrots are cool


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