or reasonably insisting on HF servicing the MPP in a manner that facilitates actually using the MPP boards? I think that we should focus on other things, like the delivery time of the MPP. It's no-where written that it will be the beginning of February; it just says that you will be entitled to the additional boards, not when you will receive them. Good question for Taco. Taco, could you please pass on the following questions. 1. You stated that the MPP begins Oct 31st. Can you clarify that? Does that mean that the MPP period will be from Oct 31st to Jan 29th, and will the earnings used to calculate the MPP be the 100% PPS rate from delivery (mid-Dec onward) until Jan 29th? 2. What is the estimated timeline for MPP deliveries? 3. Where will Batch 1 MPP deliveries fit into the order queue relative to later batches? Will they ship out only after existing orders are finished, or will the be prioritized over supplying later complete orders? 4. Should you miss the Dec 31st window, will you refund BTC payments with the amount of Bitcoins paid, or the USD amount on the invoice at the time of refund? Yep |
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thanks for the pic taco.
i really don't get this. i've got stable speeds right now around 550 GH/s in the BF GUI yet my stratum pool monitor shows btwn 78.8 and 193 GH/s. it's been consistently showing this disparity.
problem is that my Avalons show consistently accurate readings on this same stratum pool monitor of 82-84 GH/s and in its cgminer GUI.
might be kind of silly but did you change all three pools to the same pool/worker name? these aren't failovers, the device will mine on all three pools at the same time My final suggestion is to just switch to BTC guild and then make the sharediff 256 or 512 |
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It's a bit blurry but sure  edit: How to read voltage On the side of the inductor (big cube labeled "pulse") there is a strip of metal. This is your +'ve read point. On the M-board itself at the end opposite the rasp pi are a 12v + and - cable attachment point. Touch the -'ve end of your multimeter here and you should get a read of 0.860 V ish |
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Preliminary results -- cards that were "bad" are no longer shutting down at 0.840 V and 0.820 V respectively. Hash rates are about 34 GH/s per each. I guess I can cancel my RMA if this works out okay!
For people getting new boards that are shutting down, check the voltage. The one card I had that was shutting down was at 0.870 V, compared to 0.860 V for a lot of the others.
I'm now getting 360 GH/s for 10 cards @ 406 W, if the thing was fully populated it'd be getting 575 GH/s. I'd recommend people play with their voltages, as the default voltage seems to be not absolutely necessary for peak function.
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Got antsy, so I cranked down the voltage on the trimpot to 0.840 V on my card that always shuts off. I'll see if this makes the card last any longer.
Note for users: use a tiny philips screw driver and turn right to increase voltage, left to decrease voltage.
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Naysayers a plenty, even with LTC soaring. Time will tell.
They increase moreso when they haven't invested in LTC and the price growth outpaces BTC. |
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As far as I understand: it's 90 days after the shipping date, so if they shipped on Dec 15 MPP would kick in on March 15 if you haven't ROI'd the value of BTC you used to pay for it. As to how they calculate the number of additional units they send to you, I have no idea, but I'll drop them an e-mail for you.
Hashfast clarified today that the MPP begins on 30 OCT. HashFast Production UpdateMiner Protection ProgramFor those of you covered under the Miner Protection Program™ ( https://hashfast.com/miner-protection-program/), this delay will not affect the starting point from which benefits are calculated. For First Batch Baby Jets, the start date of the program will be retroactive to October 30th. We want to make sure a delayed ship date does not reduce the value of the program. [/quote] Ah, okay, sorry, I'm just getting home... I guess this is bad news for the people who bought Batch 2 with MPP. I'll run this by my contact and see if she can confirm everyone is on the same page |
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Ignoring the Oct 25th to Oct 31st difference, if that scenario played out and at the end of January HF sends out one extra module because hey, a BabyJet would have earned 25BTC between Oct 31st and Jan 29th they will have a lot of pissed off customers. The calculation for how much you have earned is based on the shipping date. By the letter of the program it is the first 90 days, that would mean if it ships 30 days late your MPP window is also extended 30 days which obviously makes the program a worse deal. Many people complained it would be fairer if the MPP began when the units should have shipped so customers are not double penalized for late delivery. HashFast seems to have agreed. Still the earnings are based on when what a shipped unit would earn each day up to 28 JAN. They way I read it (and I may be wrong) if your unit ended up costing 50 BTC, they ship it on say 15 DEC and between 15 DEC and 28 JAN you earn*: > 50 BTC = no additional boards > 25 BTC & <50 BTC = 1 additional board > 16.7.5 BTC & <=25 BTC = 2 additional boards > 12.5 BTC & <16.7 BTC = 3 additional boards <= 12.5 BTC = 4 additional boards Maybe Hashfast can confirm or correct me. * "you earn" is based on the value of daily value of 400 GH/s (like using a mining calculator but looking backwards) not your actual mining which may be more or less (luck, downtime, pool problems, unit gets stolen, etc).As far as I understand: it's 90 days after the shipping date, so if they shipped on Dec 15 MPP would kick in on March 15-ish (didn't check to see if that's actualy 90 days) if you haven't ROI'd the value of BTC you used to pay for it. As to how they calculate the number of additional units they send to you, I have no idea, but I'll drop them an e-mail for you. |
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I'll say what Hash Fast is unwilling to say: if you didn't purchase a miner protection plan, you are fucked. Kiss your BTC goodbye. I'm so happy I ordered before they came out with the MPP....... Getting fucked by another ASIC manufacturer, what a surprise.  Eg me Great |
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Must be a DDoS
Wouldn't surprise me... the neat thing about the PPC/NVC/XPM difficulty adjust and block reward algorithm is that as a miner you benefit immediately and pretty extremely by knocking other miners offline. |
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Well, no update.
I'm going to bed.
Sorry, guys. Maybe tomorrow.
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Hi All
I just spoke with Hashfast regarding an updated delivery schedule and they asked me to hold off on announcing it for another 24 hours, when they'll make the information public.
Really sorry I can't give you more information at the moment, but I do not want to risk breaching the NDA with a premature announcement.
Taco time had just said they were gonna be making the announcement later today... So which is it? It seems even their announcements are delayed.. They told me tonight, unless that was their announcement, that they were gonna make an announcement in 24 hours. |
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Taco can we get an update or confirmation or rejection or something?
(Great now I am hungry for some tacos)
HashFast said tonight they'd be "answering all questions." Not sure what that means, I'm still waiting like the rest of you. |
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Tacotime, have u tried undervolting with a pencil? "Pencil mod" the resistor above the R01f resistor (don't remember the number). It should reduce the voltage and is easily reversible.
These have adjustable pots on them, but I don't think I'm going to bother... all the other boards hash stably at 0.860 V for 12 h now, why shouldn't this one? The board also gives as valid nonces for a few minutes as all the other ones at 33+ GH/s, it just clocks down and then shuts off like clockwork each time. |
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Okay, shots of the busted board and the rest of the rig are here: http://imgur.com/a/WCu0kThe heatsinks on the bottom left of the card look close to some of the live voltage regulation points, but I can ensure you that it is not touching them Edit: Sent in RMA request, let's see how smooth this goes!  Well at the moment I am pretty frustrated and unsure what to do. I am getting about 372 with a full rig, 5 cards sitting at 0, 1 at 8gh. I have a box fan on them, plus 6 120MM fans, and Heat sinks as Goxed recommended. I was very careful not to let them touch anything they shouldn't, However none of that has helped, 5-6 cards just poop out after an hour or so of mining. Not sure how to proceed at this point. I sent in an RMA to see if Mega can help. Sounds like the same problem I am having with my bad card. The only thing I can think of is something faulty with the thermal regulation. Weirdly, sometimes when I ssh the chips are all fine, other times they throw errors. My guess is that they are all fine, but something is faulty elsewhere in the board. The only other thing I can recommend is reseating them all over the place and seeing if it helps. |
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Hashfast finally got back to me and has told me that an official statement will be given by the company later today.
Statement about what? Delivery time of Batch 1 and 2? Or just the refund/coupon thing? They didn't say. |
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Hashfast finally got back to me and has told me that an official statement will be given by the company later today.
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Hashfast - update please.
They haven't sent me anything.. |
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Okay, shots of the busted board and the rest of the rig are here: http://imgur.com/a/WCu0kThe heatsinks on the bottom left of the card look close to some of the live voltage regulation points, but I can ensure you that it is not touching them Edit: Sent in RMA request, let's see how smooth this goes! |
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