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261  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN][DRK] Darkcoin | First Anonymous Coin | Inventor of X11, DGW and Darksend | Instant TX on: November 08, 2014, 07:18:08 PM
Does anyone already have a confirmed deposit on Cr@ptsy ?

Six hours later and my drks still pending ..

Ah, good old Cryptsy. They don't allow the fresh depositors to sell until the big dump or over or the pump becomes a real rally and the deposit time gets too ridiculous. Cheesy
262  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN][DRK] Darkcoin | First Anonymous Coin | Inventor of X11, DGW and Darksend | Instant TX on: November 08, 2014, 06:35:35 PM
Ah, now I regret I quit following the DRK price charts and news about two weeks ago (after watching the noting for two months).
263  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: November 08, 2014, 06:18:42 PM
Doge Bubble

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Didn't you mean DarkCoin pump?
264  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: November 08, 2014, 06:14:57 PM
Bitcoin is something new and can easily dissapear again unlike things like gold. That's why only a complete fucking idiot would compare Bitcoin to gold.

You do realize that you just compared Bitcoin to gold and then proceeded to call yourself a complete fucking idiot, right?


Blitz should append this to his quote.
265  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: November 08, 2014, 06:09:47 PM
It will just get worse till all the buyers are gone.

I have not even started buying.


So you are not late to stop before ever started.
266  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: November 08, 2014, 02:56:26 PM
No more annoying "yeah, but we're still up from last year" posts.
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yeah, but we still didn't crash below last year -> So, you couldn't possibly loose anything, right?
yeah, but we're still up from two years ago -> So, you could actually make a nice profit anyway.
yeah, but... but... we are still going up next year! -> So, you can still profit if you haven't already.
but...
267  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: November 07, 2014, 03:09:41 PM
Silk road didn't sell alcohol.

Really? How come? Traditional dark markets sell alcoholic drinks since some governments put tremendous amount of special taxes on them and/or strictly forbid selling home made liquors (and/or even forbid/limit that process in any form).
268  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: November 06, 2014, 11:02:20 PM
I wonder how many time people had to rebuy their own coins. Buy BTC keep them on SR...have in confiscated by FBI purchase that coin again at FBI sale, store that coin at Gox...buy that same coin from "hacker", transfer it to SR2...wait for FBI sale to buy your coin yet again.  

And what psychoactive substance(s) did you happen to consume which let you senses all the possible future pasts?
A little hint for our common reality: Gox went down before the FBI auction
Though I understand why you would prefer the reality in which Gox died much earlier.
269  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: November 06, 2014, 06:45:41 PM

Haven't you heard? The Great Insect War is long over and His Shadow is also dead. The Bru-nnen G took care of them all. You were wise to choose the reptilian race. What made you reanimate these old fallen gods? Lizards eat insects. You are going backwards.


Otherwise, these Darknet markets should really improve their security measures. I might even want to use some of their services one day but I would be a fool to do so until they prove to be much more reliable than a random stranger on the corner who wears a badge in his pocket. Cheesy
270  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: November 06, 2014, 03:24:08 PM
I like this slow creeping up to 350$ much more than huge jump and then crash Smiley . I think this price climb is worth more Smiley.

Double bottom first.

That happened already in the sense of certain moving averages based on certain points in that time frame. It didn't happen in the sense of raw numbers but there was a 30k sell wall last time which isn't very representative. So, unless somebody plans to emerge another similar wall and/or sell a similar amount during a short time frame in any public form, I wouldn't expect the raw numbers to shoot that far from the moving average. Thus, I guess it won't go down below 300$ any time soon. However, I am far from being sure enough to do a leveraged margin buy @340$. I am just saying that your second bottom is technically behind us, thus I wouldn't wait for it too long if it seems to be taking off.

Edit: LOL, I should have executed that buy instead of typing. It went up 6$ by the time I posted. Grin
271  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: November 05, 2014, 09:04:06 PM
Very volume.



I am optimistic.



It will reach ~348 before it falls back to ~330. Cheesy



All fiat already exists in math.  As is the case with Bitcoin, not all of it has been released yet.

All you need is to invent a math which allows the division by zero and you rule the world.
272  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: November 05, 2014, 12:42:18 PM

2014-06-05: 660 USD/BTC
2014-11-05: 330 USD/BTC
2015-04-05:


2012-11-05:   10 USD/BTC
2013-11-05: 244 USD/BTC
2014-11-05: 330 USD/BTC
2015-11-05:      

 Grin Cheesy Grin

Should we fit a parabola through those three points, and see what it predicts?  Grin

I'd like to see a parabola fit through these 3 points, my brain says it can't be done with a parabola.
More likely to fit a Gaussian distribution. Wink

I had this software opened, so I couldn't resist. Tongue



P.S: The green is actually the real thing. And it's scary as fĪck! (If you want higher prices, that is...)
273  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: November 05, 2014, 10:28:24 AM

I love that we have the internet just so that these idiots ignorance can eventually get exposed

Didn't sound that unreasonable to me.

It doesn't make much sense though.

"the blockchain technology is this brilliant technology but the currency isn't any good" is his argument.

Without the currency no one would be supporting the blockchain technology

No one would be spending $ on mining if there wasn't a reward.

He comes off like a dbag for the first minute or so, no doubt. No need for him to lead with "omg fukkin cultists" (or even use the term at all) because it shuts out anybody who doesn't already agree with him.

Based on that, I understand if most of you didn't get this far, but I'd like to hear your thoughts on his calling out the Winkles on pumping it up so they can dump at a higher price? You might believe in the technology, but do you think it is a cash grab for them, or do you think they're really on board with this?

In my personal opinion they (Winklevoss brothers) are ever-lucky fools (considering who they are but where they are today).
However, I barely know anything about them other than they are being related to Facebook, Bitcoin and Olympics (which I find to be a strange combination because you can't fine-tune both your body and your mind for two distinctly different things at the same time; testosterone can suppress higher mental functions for some limited degree and business requires a different mindset than sports).
I saw the Hollywood movie about Facebook (which I assume to be very far from reality) and I saw them talking about Bitcoin a few times here and there (mostly in those kind of talk shows which probably don't allow anybody to talk freely and honestly) where they gave me the impression that they are admittedly planning to dump most if their BTC for as much USD as possible rather than planning to build a future around it so they can keep it.
They probably see the current price as an overinflated bubble (still) and they wouldn't buy a single satoshi if they discovered BTC today. This implies they are probably ready to dump for a lot less (~100$ or less) if they come to the conclusion that they should do so.
274  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: November 04, 2014, 08:34:21 PM
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The price of any commodity tends to gravitate toward the production cost.  Satoshi N.

So, we should sum the money spent on mining hardware (it's a little tricky for the early general purpose hardware which probably got re-purposed by now but was allocated for some time and got partially degraded ; and it seems almost impossible to get accurate data from ASIC manufacturers) and integrate the average watt/hash (which is a little difficult but could be guessed with a reasonable tolerance) with the hash/time graph (this one is really easy to get) and extrapolate a little bit into the future (until the money spent becomes a coin sold - but it's probably not more than a few days, so given the big uncertainty of other data this step can be safely skipped).
I don't even wish to guess anything closer than "between 10 and 400$". Cheesy
275  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: November 03, 2014, 08:05:03 PM
Poll suggestion: <=315$ in 24<t<48 hours?

Absent ETF, and maybe even if, this s--- is falling off the table in the next 48 hours. 266 or below would be a good a survey question.

Note: this assumes some sort of flash crash or at least culling of some long positions along the way... otherwise, that type of drop in a short period of time would be absurd.

Well, I didn't want to go as far as predicting what might happens next if the invisible wall around ~315$ gets breached. I don't try to predict the events of a future chaos. I am happy if I can tell chaos is coming or gets dodged.
276  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: November 03, 2014, 07:40:36 PM
Poll suggestion: <=315$ in 24<t<48 hours?
277  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: November 03, 2014, 07:32:12 PM
If you are a bitcoin fanatic, but you spend your bitcoins through merchants that instantly sell them for fiat [and you don't instant rebuy them because you are allin] helping to dump a bit more the price downwards to break the $266 support.

Is that bearish or bullish?

But if it keeps going on (merchants continue accepting BTC and some people pick up the habit of paying with BTC while they are effectively just dumping their old coins via merchants) there will be an inflexion point where one must buy fresh BTC in order to be able to spend it (the old stash will run out otherwise; or actually run out but that at least means a stop of merchant dumping).
278  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: November 03, 2014, 07:24:36 PM
I understand that this is a wall observer thread but does anyone have anything else than (fake) ask/bid depth and useless TA to help predict price movement?

(Please donīt say monkey)

See the Litecoin movement, to see what is gonna happens to BTC movement.

Also be glued in the charts helps, but most people have something better to do most of the day.

This might help you practice staring at charts: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TpU5O_Uur_c
You might also place this on one half of the screen while watching the chart on the other. I am not sure if this will help you make the right decision but it will certainly do something, or don't, I don't know. Tongue
(BTW, their "Honest Trailer" clips are actually funny.)
279  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: November 03, 2014, 05:17:28 PM
And still we go down again. This market is crazy.

I don't think so. Not for long. I am starting to feel a little uneasy about my active short. May be we are close to an actual trend reversal (with our without another quick <300$ visit).


K, let's find out if he has the power to ban himself. I dare you both, do it! Grin
280  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: November 03, 2014, 04:25:14 PM
IMO the most probable thing is just a larger sideways, even if it fluctuates a lot from our microscopic view. It is hard to outdo this 5th October event. At the same time, we obviously have lots of overhead resistance, and it would take a long time to get through.

I'd discard all volume charts of 0% exchanges. As for why things look slightly differently on Bitfinex, that's obvious: 30k guy sold on Bitstamp, not Bitfinex. Bitstamp is where all eyes have been on those days, and thus IMO it's the one to look at (well, aside from the argument that Bitstamp is the only one free of potentially distorting leveraged volume).

Well, I do have to admit that I don't believe that someone who sells 30k on a single exchange at a single time at the termination of at least a local trend is very clever. In fact, the nature of this person appears to be so impulsive

He may have needed the money for something, urgently.

Or he may have become convinced that price would never get substantially higher than 300$, and could quickly get much lower. In that case, selling as quickly as possible was not a bad strategy.  Moving part of the coins to another exchange would have taken time, and he may have felt that it was not worth running that risk.
Someone good at business does not get in a situation where he has to liquidate a large holding of an illiquid asset within <24h (sending the money FROM the exchange will take longer in itself anyway). In the second case, obviously his fears turned out unfounded. My point is just that yes, it's quite probable that this guy was clueless. The only real reason to sell in such a manner is if one had inside knowledge of an irreversible technical failure of Bitcoin, and if that was the case, good luck competing with all the devs.

I prefer the Bitfinex data overall:
- China should be considered 100% fake
- Bitstamp have been tainted by that very unrepresentative 30k sell-wall event (I would say it's 50-50 if that's a good or a bad thing to include and I place my bid on that it's not)
- Bitfinex represents something like a "real market" as close as any Bitcoin exchange might get nowadays (I consider the active leverage trading as a positive thing in this regard)
So, I support the idea that nobody really know what might happen next. I guess this where somebody should call the "critical" time, yet nobody does that anymore (strange).
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