Mate, look. Harping on about this screenshot nonsense isn't getting you anywhere. Such arguably wasn't trying to deceive -- it doesn't say anywhere on the original post 'here's a screenshot from my phone', and besides, Such has subsequently posted a picture of the exact same problem occurring on a phone anyway. Could it have been clearer initially that the screenshots were from an emulator? Sure. I'm sure even Suchmoon would concede that. But it's not some grand conspiracy.

I can understand you trying to shift the focus of the discussion away from criticism of something you're invested heavily in -- I'm sure it's uncomfortable for you, especially when it seems that even by the teams own target it's underperforming. However, constantly trying to reframe the discussion in the way you are does nothing for your position. If you can defend your investment and address the criticisms, for example the obvious use of what would appear to be fake reviews (whether purchased by the team or by someone else within the ionomy community), with something other than hand waving, I'd be more than willing to listen.

Perhaps you could share with us your honest opinion of the first two weeks of the game being released. Is the number of downloads and general reception in line with what you would expect to see from a game that you have obviously enjoyed playing? Are you surprised that there doesn't appear to be many taking part in the leaderboard competition so far, despite this being one of the ionomy project's unique features? Does the level of marketing match your expectations for something that forms the bedrock of the ionomy?

I look forward to a response that hopefully doesn't contain the words 'deception', 'photos' or 'phone'.

I think 500 actual users is wildly optimistic, to be honest. The number of active slack participants hasn't really changed since the game was released, and the daily volume on bittrex is trending downwards if anything. Combined with the fact that the in game leaderboard currently seems to be less than 100 strong and I think all the signs point towards far fewer than 500 active community members.

On the subject of the leaderboard, I hadn't fully appreciated that one of the top ranked names seems to share the name of the official twitter account, and as you pointed out there seems to be a few very familiar names on there. To me that just reeks of stupidity. Pre-release testers and team insiders shouldn't be allowed to take part in the competition, it gives them an unfair advantage, and more than that it'll put actual players off. Poor show.

So, finally someone has said something publicly about how the game is performing. It's been pretty clear that they were short of their target download numbers for some time, but I didn't anticipate that they'd fallen this far short. I think their next move is going to be interesting -- do they continue to try and update Gravity, or move all their resources on to getting the next game to market as soon as possible? For what it's worth, I don't think any number of updates to Gravity will improve it as a gameplay experience; you can tart it up all you like, but in my opinion the concept is dull, unoriginal, and a bit clumsy. However, I'm also not confident that any game released by the team will be any better, particularly when they had so long to make this one compelling and haven't delivered. I kind of feel sad for them in a way, because if this was someone's hobby, releasing a game at all would be an impressive achievement. The difficulty comes when you're dressing up in the guise of a professional outfit and taking peoples money in to bankroll the project -- and I think it's correct that the final result of their endeavour is judged differently as a result.

I also find it fascinating that seemingly no one on the slack channel is really that bothered about how the game is doing now it's out. I would suggest that perhaps the conversation about measuring it's success or failure takes place in the uber-private whales channel, but given the level of discourse we see our friendly whales engage in on here, I have my doubts.

If I were a whale, I'd be getting slightly fidgety. I know the game has only been out two weeks, but if this had legs, people would be champing at the bit to get in on it having seen the game finally. And they're not.

I completely understand why you're doing it, but I do feel you're re-writing history somewhat here. For starters, they weren't even called 'Xbits', they were called 'XPYBiTs'. Secondly, while it's true that 'XPYBiTs' were sold as a way to fund XPY.io, they were sold at least in part on the basis that XPY.io would further XPY's adoption through the addition of 'features' on their platform. I think it's dishonest to say that people didn't buy them because of XPY; without XPY there would have been no XPY.io and no XPY.io users.

Here's an archive link to some contemporaneous information about XPYBiTs: http://archive.is/rqf7t

I also think it's somewhat stretching the truth to imply that most people who brought XPYBiTs were aware that they were investing in something that would eventually break away from XPY completely, but I suppose it's possible that that was the plan all along, even if it seems somewhat like a dishonest sales tactic.

To be fair, I don't think Matlack works at billingserv.

Such isn't saying Atoms have anything to do with GAW, simply that the claims our friend Sharkie made about Atoms are startlingly similar to some of the claims Garza made about products he offered. You can see that, surely?

Actually the figures I quoted were from Huey on Saturday of last week, if I remember correctly, so when the game had already been released to the Play store. You're right about it not being available immediately on the iOS App Store, for whatever reason, though the gap was a lot less than a week between the releases (android on the Friday and iOS during Monday into Tuesday). Anyway, from what you've said it doesn't sound like whale status affords you any further information than can be deduced from review rates and the download estimations on the Play store.

I will admit that I'm somewhat baffled as to why there doesn't appear to be thousands of active users, as the fact that the community was apparently thousands strong was touted by the team as the reason they couldn't do a closed beta for Gravity (apparently the size of the community exceeded the amount of users you can invite to closed testing schemes for apps in the Play and iOS stores). Where have all those users gone?

Korvas, I don't mean to be rude, but there is a picture from suchmoon that you even quoted above that shows the same error occurring on a phone. By continuing to rant about this emulator debate you're only making yourself look foolish. Give it a rest.  

I'd be interested to know if you have any whale exclusive information about the amount of downloads/active players/in app purchases made over the first week of Crypto Gravity being available. Did it attain the team's target of 1500-2000 downloads per day for the first week?

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This was posted yesterday.

Still no countdown. One wonders why they bother giving a set time frame anymore when they so rarely meet expectations. I realise they're mostly all mates on the slack (having been tied together through the shared experience of being shafted by Garza and other 'bad actors'), but really I don't think it reflects all that well on them as a group if no one really challenges stuff like this. If the game is done, they should honestly just release it and be done with it, they can add further levels or whatever later (surely it would be better to do that anyway, to keep people engaged down the line? Otherwise they'll likely end up with a long period where nothing is released for ages again). For a chief strategist, Matlack's strategy often seems somewhat awry.

Ok, fine. I suspect my opinion of the value that XPY.io brought differs to yours, but that's fair enough. I'm sure you can appreciate why I was under the impression you were unaware based on the above, though?

Respectfully, Korvas, you are wrong. While you are correct that XPY Dev was (apparently) a separate entity, the Paycoin Foundation was led by Adam Matlack:

http://www.buzzfile.com/business/Paycoin-Foundation,-Inc.-832-545-7786

I believe XPY.io was developed in tandem by Matlack et al in 'Team Paycoin' under the Paycoin Foundation umbrella, and obviously eventually span off into Ionomy. I'm not accusing XPY.io/Ionomy of being Garza in disguise, but nevertheless it's important that the facts are straight as this confusing previous structure is where a hell of a lot of rumour and heresay has sprung up from. As an aside, it is curious that you as one of the whales in the Ionomy ecosystem, and a previously large investor in XPY.io, apparently weren't aware of the ins and outs of the old structure.

I'll admit that I'm somewhat confused as to why it presumably actually hinges on Bittrex approving the code when they've been continually presenting it as Bittrex gagging for it and simply waiting for the ion team to set a date. I suppose massaging the truth of the situation is par for the course when you're nearly a year into a project and miserably late delivering your main product.

It also seems that they're now having problems with masternodes shutting down in the new wallet release.

Interestingly, it seems that there's a pre-existing (and as yet unresolved) error in the transfercoin code they've used, causing -- yes, you guessed it -- further hold ups.

I'm not sure Bittrex actually care about the premine, especially if they're being paid to list Ion. Also, I'd be surprised if Huey or 'the team' dumped the premine when it gets listed, simply because they only really have the followers they have now because of their apparent reputation with them as a morally upstanding team; if they dump the premine they'll undo that and alienate their user base. If I were a moderate Ion holder I'd be more concerned about the whales, to be honest, and what they do once it's listed.

This is all bunk anyway until they actually solve the problems they're having and implement a solution.

Judging from the chatter on slack I'd say 'any day now' was probably over ambitious again. It looks like they're not really sure if they've fixed the issues or not yet. Realistically getting crypto gravity out in February is probably not going to happen now. You've got to wonder at this point if they'll actually release a single game before their one year anniversary.

A roaring success.

I didn't claim that this is a scam or run by thieves. In fact I've specifically said in the past that I don't think it's a scam, simply that I think it's like most crypto projects of this type.

Of course you're entitled to your opinion, and to defend your sizeable investment in the project so far. I just don't see how ionomy will take even 1% of such a crowded and competitive market when it has such a clunky and muddled concept at its core, with crypto almost shoehorned in. Mobile gaming does not need crypto, it doesn't streamline anything and it's another example of a crypto solution (well, sort of) in search of a problem that doesn't really exist.

Best of luck nonetheless.

Oh, come on. That's just nonsense and proves to me beyond doubt that they really haven't thought this through. The crossover between casual mobile gamers (who presumably they are targeting by putting the games on the app stores) and people who will have any desire at all to sign up to a crypto currency exchange entirely separate to the game they've been playing on their mobile device will be minuscule. Most mobile gamers simply won't be interested in crypto. Not going to happen, I'm sorry.

There's a couple of things to bear in mind, in my opinion. Firstly, remember that MrCoins is a likely whale himself, and there's not many of them so it's in their interests to keep each other relatively sweet as if any one of them bales then it will drive their collective investment down in value. For that reason I think there's a certain amount of toleration of bullshit that goes on between them.

Secondly, remember that MrCoins is a seasoned investor, and not just in crypto. For all his happy-clappy-community-cheerleading-positivism, he knows exactly what's going on and has been around the block enough times to probably make very worthwhile suggestions behind the closed doors of the whale meetings, though whether the team actually act on that advice is a different matter.

Thirdly, and finally, I would bet my bottom dollar that even though he publicly presents himself as having lost out big time in XPY, he was shrewd enough to mitigate the loss in reality, and maybe even came out with profit. He's been involved in too many crypto communities to have not seen the signs, even when publicly he presented himself as otherwise. The other whales likely realise this and follow his lead to an extent because honestly, they're all driven by the same desire -- money.