Including:
ionomy
111 North Bridge Road 08-18 Peninsula Plaza
singapore 179098
Singapore
I still can't find any record of Ionomy or Ionomy PTE in the Singapore company records search. Why is that? which records are you seeking and how ? can you give link to record search site please ? The claim has been made once and debunked, that they had registered as a company in Singapore. Use Google to find ways to search listed company records in Singapore, as it's probably better done off your own back. Otherwise someone else will come back with some excuse or another about how I didn't check the right places or something. They haven't registered Ionomy PTE yet. According to Matlack in slack some time last week, the company that will presumably be registered as Ionomy PTE is currently registered as Graval PTE, which would appear to be one of Mark Gravina's companies, who I think is their accountant and local contact in Singapore. Matlack claims that they are still awaiting some code or other to enable the transfer of business names to take place. |
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When questioned by a loyal follower on slack about the potential scenario of the ICO not selling out, Matlack reluctantly explained that any remaining ICO coins would be used to incentivise developers for future games. I'm sure that'll work out well for them.
In other words making masternodes etc or selling themselves or paying themselves. They didn't mention this little thing about left over ico coins being used in their whitepapers or faqs.. just more deceit, especially if it takes a loyal follower to reluctantly get it out of them To be 100% fair to them, I think it does actually mention that leftover coins will be used to incentivise future game dev in the white paper. |
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o0o0 Your so right....... just saying your going to be in a multi billion dollar market is just a sign of intent not success, again I'm not sharing my homework as I ain't not Garza... I ain't no hype train... I ain't no ION salesman  Its not a case of being an ion salesman. Im asking how you arrived at your conclusion that ion is a good investment. I've shown some figures for potential for abuse for the premine and masternodes. Team ion has not refuted this claim or agreed with it. I don't think anyone here is wanting you to speak your background knowledge in the hopes of stealing all your profits. Its a simple question as we haven't to this date seen any facts showing its a good investment. Saying you aren't sharing your homework is a bit like mrcoins like there is a select few that are smarter than the collective posting information against it being a good investment. We aren't dense but are honestly interested in how people are seeing potential in it. Please show some of your homework... even a partial amount so others can understand. Unless its just i have a feeling and adam is a good guy. This doesn't mean you are hyping it means you are showing some validation on why you do it. Just like myself and others posting facts and figures against aren't "trolls" we are showing validation on the against. People mix these terms up. Personally i don't think anyone has facts and figures that is why they say they aren't sharing. If ion was a good investment then team ion would be releasing this information to encourage people to buy ion because lets face it more crowd funds means more things they can do right? It works against them if they don't sell premine. Unless... its an insider trading platform for a select few with money to screw everyone else out of it? Is that why people don't want ot release any of their homework? Have you all cheated and looked in the back at the answers first? Having read through some of the Slack messages for the last few days, I can see that they appear to have very little interest in answering questions. Any attempts to raise most of the issues already raised on this forum were batted off as 'we're too busy to answer' and 'the person who's responsibility it is to answer isn't available to answer right now' (the owner of the Ionomy account on here is apparently suffering from some personal issues at the moment, which presumably prevents any other members of their 'management team' from responding too -- a sad 'team' affliction indeed). When questioned by a loyal follower on slack about the potential scenario of the ICO not selling out, Matlack reluctantly explained that any remaining ICO coins would be used to incentivise developers for future games. I'm sure that'll work out well for them. I really get the overbearing impression that despite their claims to be friendly and open and fun and whatnot, they'd really rather that their 'community' remains made up of the same core of people who already largely support what the ION team are doing, who are unsurprisingly most of the people who supported paycoin from the beginning. They've been 'together' for a long time now, and they've formed a very dense clique that's difficult for new people to penetrate. I still don't think they're scammers; but they are fantastically delusional if they think this project will have a wide appeal if they carry on conducting themselves in this way. |
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I'd be interested to know an answer to this too, but the likelihood is of course that it'll go unaddressed. It looks like if the front page numbers from the website are to be believed, they'll almost certainly not sell all the ICO coins. 1.25 mil ion were exchanged (and yes, the xpy will be burned) , another 800K will be for atom holders. So 575K ions have been bought from the website using BTC. These numbers are public.
And you know that because they told you so? Because blockchain proof is only used by trolls and fudsters. The website says "TOTAL SOLD 2,626,158" and doesn't say anything about coins given to XPY bagholders or reserved for some other trinkets. I can't see anything about the 800k, 1.25m, or 575k. Where are those public numbers? The math that I could find doesn't add up: https://ionomy.com/newsThe ion ICO will open Monday, April 4th 2016 through May 16, 2016. Initial offering price will be $0.20 USD. A total of 5 million ION have been allocated to the ICO. The ion will be sold in blocks of 400,000 with progressive pricing increases of $0.01 USD implemented every week, the final week of the ico will have an additional 100,000 ion available for a total of 500,000 at $0.25 400k at $0.20 400k at $0.21 400k at $0.22 400k at $0.23 400k at $0.24 500k at $0.25 Total 2.5m. Where is the remainder of the 5m ICO? If the 1.25m + 800k that you mentioned is added on top of the ICO it still leaves about 0.5m unaccounted for. And if the sales fall short of allocation what happens to the unsold coins? |
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Well, it's been over ten days now and still no sign of the mythical Singapore business registration for either Ionomy PTE or XPY.io. Once again, I'm not claiming this is scam but it certainly doesn't reflect well on your business practices if you claim in your terms and conditions to be operating as a registered business and no such business actually appears to exist in any formal way.
With just over two weeks to go there's just a hair under half of the ICO coins remaining, which I suppose is a decent measure of the level of trust people have in this project.
But, but, but there's a lot of people on Slack! One user popped up to give some sass to a user about something like that. They will pop up here to defend but answer one of the lingering questions? Nah, we don't deserve that. They've been scammed before, they are not automatically trustworthy. They've also now started up the 'iontalk' forum, which seems to be a direct replacement for hashtalk/talkXPY to allow the community to discuss ions with as little outside influence as possible. I'm somewhat confused as to why, if this is indeed a legitimate venture, they seem to feel they will be successful unless they address the numerous causes for concern head on. In reality I feel that they're limiting their potential reach by allowing rumour and conjecture to circulate unaddressed. was setup by a community member, they have no official forum… Sorry, by 'they' I meant the community, though it's quite hard to follow who is an 'official' and who is simply a community pleb on the slack channel. All officials or team members on Slack have the handle '@ion_name', so every one else is a community pleb. So, it's quite easy now. I stand corrected. Thanks for this. Questions still remain, however. |
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Well, it's been over ten days now and still no sign of the mythical Singapore business registration for either Ionomy PTE or XPY.io. Once again, I'm not claiming this is scam but it certainly doesn't reflect well on your business practices if you claim in your terms and conditions to be operating as a registered business and no such business actually appears to exist in any formal way.
With just over two weeks to go there's just a hair under half of the ICO coins remaining, which I suppose is a decent measure of the level of trust people have in this project.
But, but, but there's a lot of people on Slack! One user popped up to give some sass to a user about something like that. They will pop up here to defend but answer one of the lingering questions? Nah, we don't deserve that. They've been scammed before, they are not automatically trustworthy. They've also now started up the 'iontalk' forum, which seems to be a direct replacement for hashtalk/talkXPY to allow the community to discuss ions with as little outside influence as possible. I'm somewhat confused as to why, if this is indeed a legitimate venture, they seem to feel they will be successful unless they address the numerous causes for concern head on. In reality I feel that they're limiting their potential reach by allowing rumour and conjecture to circulate unaddressed. was setup by a community member, they have no official forum… Sorry, by 'they' I meant the community, though it's quite hard to follow who is an 'official' and who is simply a community pleb on the slack channel. |
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Well, it's been over ten days now and still no sign of the mythical Singapore business registration for either Ionomy PTE or XPY.io. Once again, I'm not claiming this is scam but it certainly doesn't reflect well on your business practices if you claim in your terms and conditions to be operating as a registered business and no such business actually appears to exist in any formal way.
With just over two weeks to go there's just a hair under half of the ICO coins remaining, which I suppose is a decent measure of the level of trust people have in this project.
But, but, but there's a lot of people on Slack! One user popped up to give some sass to a user about something like that. They will pop up here to defend but answer one of the lingering questions? Nah, we don't deserve that. They've been scammed before, they are not automatically trustworthy. They've also now started up the 'iontalk' forum, which seems to be a direct replacement for hashtalk/talkXPY to allow the community to discuss ions with as little outside influence as possible. I'm somewhat confused as to why, if this is indeed a legitimate venture, they seem to feel they will be successful unless they address the numerous causes for concern head on. In reality I feel that they're limiting their potential reach by allowing rumour and conjecture to circulate unaddressed. |
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Well, it's been over ten days now and still no sign of the mythical Singapore business registration for either Ionomy PTE or XPY.io. Once again, I'm not claiming this is scam but it certainly doesn't reflect well on your business practices if you claim in your terms and conditions to be operating as a registered business and no such business actually appears to exist in any formal way.
With just over two weeks to go there's just a hair under half of the ICO coins remaining, which I suppose is a decent measure of the level of trust people have in this project.
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Having hung out a little in the slack channel, my prior beliefs are pretty much confirmed. I don't believe they're scammers, and actually there appear to be some decent people (minniemouse notably excluded) in the 'community'. I wish to thank those that were reasonable and gave a warm welcome for making an effort.
However, Huey in particular comes across as a nice guy who is very naive with regards to how to run a legitimate business. Case in point, they considered an escrow for the ICO and somehow came to the conclusion that it wasn't necessary. Huey and his group of core leaders there totally overestimated the level of trust people would have in a brand new venture, let alone one that has links to something as dreadful as XPY. Likewise with the business registration. Matlack should as COO be right on top of that, and yet has failed, presumably because he's farmed it out to a third party to take care of and has just trusted that it would be done. Now that it's been proven to be a problem, he's made to look like an idiot.
There are also questions about how they will even get games into the iOS App Store in particular; Huey openly admitted this in the slack. Likewise how they reached the valuation of $0.25 per ion. The fact that things like that are apparently yet to be resolved when they are already taking people's money is again, disorganised and naive, and undermines the whole project.
All in all, while there are some good eggs (get it, Krumz), I just don't think this has legs. Sorry guys.
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I suspect the only reason they've suddenly created an ANN thread for this is because the buying of their ICO has slowed down. They need to drum up more interest in the project to get more sales in; hence the press releases and this. Not surprising really given how limited the initial pool of 'investors' will have been from talkXPY/XPY.io.
For what it's worth I don't believe that Matlack and his team are scammers, but I do believe this is an ill conceived idea that will be dead in the water before long. With the greatest of respect, as this new team is mostly the same as the team behind XPY.io the best indicator of their potential success is what they did with that, and they hardly set the world alight. Honestly while they keep blaming XPYs ties to Garza for XPY.io's failure, they were fools to even try it in the first place, and even more foolish to stick with it as long as they did -- that for me calls into question the decision making of Matlack et al.
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Realistically, I don't think chief Huey et al really care any more about the wallet or it's functionality. They're pretty obviously only in this shitcoin because of the way XPY.io could/is lining their pockets -- why would you turn down the opportunity to take advantage of a mass of willing idiots whose trust you already mostly have like that?
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Did bittrex delist paycorn yet? There's so exchanges left after this.
I wouldn't worry. The paycoiners seem deliriously content trading between themselves on the super exclusive XPY.io exchange. |
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Fowl / chicken, oh golly, do keep up  Yawn. We all got your pun, you fool, what did you want, a pat on the back for it? Stop dancing around the issues with attempts at wordplay and answer the question. |
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Yup, bored now. A shame, time to reheat my pizza.
Nothing else to add, ya fucking liar? Edit to add: How about announcing on that cult forum you love so much that you are over here "taking on the detractors"? Show them all just what a piece of fucking gutter trash you REALLY are. The most important ppl know, and besides, this is not the only thread on this forum. Who exactly are you speaking of? Shinners? Allcock? Some other asshole scammer chumps that you worship over there? 1,2 miss a few 99, 100. Are you missing me already? Awe, running away with your lil puppy dog tail tucked between your asscheeks already? So sowwys. Buhbyes ya fucking LIAR. Edit to add: I am quite aware that there are other threads on this forum. All legitimate coin crews have one, for instance. Where the fuck is the TeamPaycoin thread? Huh asshole? There isn't one. Know why? Because they and their fucking scams would get torn to pieces here in reality, so they stay in their cult forum, where assholes like you help to wrangle in more victims for your criminal "Family". Fuck that, fuck them, and fuck you. Have a nice day, ya fucking liar. Oh, I am still around fowl mouth one.  I was at primary school and the bully of said school, well I saw him running up behind me, via his shadow, I turned around and raised my leg so he effectively ran full pelt into my foot, he went down in a bloody pile. The whole school laughed at him and he never picked on anyone else again, I was around 5 then, so very small, but I learnt to stand up to bullies. I don't run from anything, or anyone, in fact, I protect others too. Of course these facts will be twisted. Maybe you should ask why I have come here, is it to wind up, or stand up? I shall let you divulge that for a while and check back later, ttfn ! Cool story, bro. Love the way your setting yourself up as some sort of hero now, saving the poor bullied little paycoin community from all the mean, nasty bullies here. If that's really what this is about, you lot are even more desperate than I thought. By the way, 'divulge' doesn't mean what you think it does. |
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In fact, you should ask if I actually have any authoriton to be answering externally easilly recognisable questions anyway
What does that word salad even mean? That's straight from the Garza faux-business phrasebook, typos and all. Again, and I'm afraid I'm going to have to press you on this, old chap; what have these supposedly brilliant devs achieved? |
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0O0O
Where to begin:
#1 I was taken for a ride by Garza. No longer, I am really happy and proud where I am right now - Team Paycoin are my family - they have treated me extremely well, the community are an extended part.
#2 The devs now are doing an amazing job, as I conversed earlier, watch this space.
#3 Yes, I would like to say hi to the community, in fact many of you have come back.
@favdesu - there is no need for me to make a new account?
@Paul Revere, you horrible being, yes, I have screenshots of when you posted pictures my dead birds right here on this very thread. You can be all brazen, hiding. It's ok.
Simple statements.
Above all I came here to say the Zencloud has closed and to test the waters, but they be foul, not getting away from that eh.
A Majority here just cannot stop going around in circles, this is fascinating and thought provoking too.
I have found in an interesting and altogether quite entertaining experience, and for that, again I am thankful.
Is there some sort of scumbag handbook? I feel like I've read a bunch of them accuse people of "going around in circles" when they get asked the same questions over and over again because they don't answer them. Team Paycoin is made up of the same schmucks that either took all of your money before, or were in the best position to see/call out Garza's bullshit and did nothing about it, that's a great family you have there. There is no point in "developing" anything about this shitcoin. Such a large number of coins are in the hands of scumbags or people that got ripped off by those scumbags that any actual "progress" will be erased by the ensuing dump by those scumbags or people trying to get made whole. The only thing that made paycoin different from any other coin was the $20 dollar promise by a scumbag and the huge number of scumbags involved in ripping off so many marks. The head scumbag is apparently gone, with the $20 promise. If these "devs" weren't the same scumbags as before they would start a new coin for all of their "progress," but then they wouldn't be able to do as much because they wouldn't have so many coins. This is exactly what I think about paycoin at the moment. And krumz, on point two, other than the botched and overcomplicated introduction of the microprimes, just what what the genius devs achieved? All I see is wallet problems and forks. The claims you make for your altcoin are literally no different to any other semi dead alt coin's community. |
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"The harder they come, the harder they fall...one & all...."
#XPY
...oh, I'm sure they're coming hard over there. |
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Meanwhile, on bittrex and cryptsy, the bizarre pump of XPY continues, much to the delight of the paytards over on paycointalk...
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Love it. Marousi isn't the sharpest tool in the box, bless him. To be honest, it's a bit short even on the circle-jerking over there at the moment, the most popular topics at the moment seem to be one for posting gifs and another for posting YouTube links to music. Other than that it's mostly tumbleweeds... |
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