Where exactly are you located as I am coming to Italy during the end of September and I might be interested in card if we can avoid shipping costs.

Where exactly did you see them releasing that? I've been checking both English and Chinese page every hour for a few days now and nothing is indicating that that your statement is true, as the only S17e 64TH/s that is available now is shipping 21-31 December(3293$) and last available(before that previously noted date) was 21-30 November(2683$).

Well, S17 and (soon to be) S17e are already turning S9 into unprofitable machines. But it mostly depends on models (price of electricity and of course price of BTC) as some are already highly unprofitable and some are close to zero profitability with average electricity cost of 0.1$ per kWh and price of BTC around 10,200$.

Also, no one can predict the future but it is very likely that the difficulty trend will continue to rise slowly. And when halving comes, it will make a lot of miners truly unprofitable(if price does not rise). So difficulty for short period might get lower as big farms may stop mining.

But for your electricity, it might be profitable for quite some time as your electricity truly is cheap.

Also, this is just my opinion and not in any way financial advice!

Do you sell that motherboard(Z270-A PRO) from picture?
And also, can you see how much would be the shipping cost to Novi Sad, Serbia?

I ordered the cheaper one(S17e) as it comes earlier... And it's cheaper

I found the reason for higher price for December's unit.
It seems as they added something called: "Product Reference Price" and "Actual Transaction Price".

You can read more about it on their page: https://shop.bitmain.com/product/detail?pid=00020190909102622337qeAMQsXc06DB
in tab called "Notes".

I wasn't too wrong about prices but I am actually pretty confused with their listings:


WHAT?!

I was literally thinking the same, and for some reason, I think that the price for first batch will be somewhere between 3000$-3100$ however, second and third batches in my head are between 2800$ and 2950$. But we shall see how it turns out in around 9 hours.

Do you accept escrows from Bitcointalk forum or only purchases on ebay?
Also, is 55USD shipping correct for worldwide?(Just checking as I am located in Serbia and shipping costs tend to be too big from USA)

It seemed way too good to be true from the beginning but I am still interested to know how will this deal end. Please notify us of any changes!

PM-ed.

Since I do not see that you did the math, I took it upon myself to do it.

S17 Pro 50TH/s in "Normal" mode has a speed of 51.5TH/s.
In "Turbo" mode I do not remember what speed it had but let's take the best case scenario and say it was 62TH/s.

I will skip the cost of electricity in my calculation but I will write it down here so if anyone is interested.
51.5TH/s in Normal mode is around 2kW and 62TH/s in Turbo mode is 2800W(as per Bitmain's specifications).

Mothly cost of electricity would be:
145$ in Normal mode and 200$ in Turbo mode.(I pay around 0.1 USD per kWh).

I had the unit(working properly in Turbo mode) from begining of May until end of June, so I'll use 2 whole months for my calculation.

Downtime for shipping and return of the product was exactly 7 days.
And cost of shipping was 300$(from Serbia to Netherlands) by DHL.

While the machine was working(in Turbo mode) it earned ~0.087BTC which is around 925$ currently.
If it was in Normal mode it would have earned ~0.072BTC+7days(~0.0084BTC)= ~0.0805BTC which is around 860$ currently.

2 Months difference + 7 days of downtime on Turbo (925-860)= 65$
Monthly reward difference (462-384)= 78$
(300-65)/78=3.01

So, for my unit to start earning more than if it was in Normal mode all the time, I need to have it on Turbo for at least 3 more months without it breaking again.

Hope this will help someone make a better judgment whether to use Turbo mode or not. But I will be staying on Normal mode from now on.

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Also, if anyone is interested, Bitmain just announced on Twitter that they are releasing Antminer S17e and Antminer T17e.

Both units have shipping dates from 1st to 10th of November 2019. And both prices are TBD.

Antminer S17e has a speed of 64TH/s with power efficiency of 45.00+10% J/TH (same as S17 Pro on Turbo mode).

Antminer T17e has a speed of 53TH/s with power efficiency of 55.00+10% J/TH (same as T17).

This seems like a move to counter Whatsminer's M20S and M21S.

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Additionally, here are future batches which I love to see Bitmain disclosing:

1st Batch:
Selling Time: 09 September 2019, 19:00 GMT+8
Delivery Time: 01- 10 November 2019

2nd Batch:
Selling Time: 10 September 2019, 19:00 GMT+8
Delivery Time: 11-20 November 2019

3rd Batch:
Selling Time: 11 September 2019, 19:00 GMT+8
Delivery Time: 21-30 November 2019

Has 2080 Ti been sold?

Is 2080 Ti Founders Edition still up to sale and if it is how is it doing with Coil Whine? Is it bearable?

As stated in subject, I would like to buy a few Antminers and in addition to that, I am looking for one Whatsminer 20S.

Willing to use any confirmed escrow!

Please send the price offers via PM.

I am constantly searching on forums for a custom firmware or at least firmware crack for S17/S17 Pro but I am unable to find it from reliable source so I guess no one has cracked it yet...

I was looking forward to your answer(even though I wasn't checking the forums this week)....

I totally agree with you and I liked your calculation, it saves me a lot of time, so thank you for that!

Hvala puno na ponudi, vec sam kupio 0.7 BTC od jednog coveka ovde u Novom Sadu ali najverovatnije ce mi trebati jos u "skorije" vreme. Gde bih mogao da Vam se javim kad mi zatreba?

That is the same question that has been bugging me for quite some time... In my opinion it looks like summer is the worst time for ordering and end of winter and beginning of spring is the best. So I am going to wait for at least January.

Oh, that small one. I noticed it, but I thought there was bigger ones. Thank you!

How did you acquire the coupon?