Hi Darkota, I don't think that Anoncoin has been pumped and dumped repeatedly by the developers. It is true that Anoncoin has seen price manipulation like any other coin with low trading volume, but I don't see the hands of the developers in this. It is also true that the Gnosis's implementation of zerocoin was overhyped: my impression is that he was overly naive about the time commitment required to finish the job and that he did not profit from this (though I could be wrong, I am basing this on personal communication with him and judgement of his character). Now that Cryptoslave and myself and acting as project managers, all development on the coin will be in the open on the Anoncoin development schedule. We will announce here only when new builds/release-candidates/releases are available, or when important milestones have been met. There will be no hype coming from the development team. If we have lost your trust, we hope to earn it back. When will you be asking for volunteers for testnet? The development schedule says testnet 4 is "soon"? Thanks! Are we close to release of the next client?
The Anoncoin development schedule got updated today, please check it. In short, we have now decided to do a hardfork instead of a softfork. I will briefly explain why. At first, we are still plagued with mining issues due to the timewarp attack on the old KGW difficulty algorithm. Because we think this shall be overcome as soon as possible, we decided to change the difficulty algorithm in this very fork. This change can only be done with a hardfork so we acknowledged the need for one. This being stated, it was deemed beneficiary to also switch to a two algos chain at the same time, in this fork, instead that later. So more precisely, with regard to the difficulty algorithm, GroundRod has developed AncShield, a fork of Digibyte's Multishield. The parameters have been chosen to avoid a timewarp attack by adjusting difficulty up more harshly than down, in contrast to digishield/multishield. Those parameters have yet to be tested by the devteam with several attack vectors and could be further modified, if needed. Secondly, to avoid our chain been stuck at a high diff due to multipools jumping on and off, because our AncShield parameters are chosen to primarily avoid TW attack and hence for this purpose will be taking more time than digishield/multishield to return to the mean difficulty, we have decided to fork now on a two algos chain POW model. Thus, by following myriadcoin example, we will incorporate, in this fork, two POW algos, namely the original Scrypt algo but also SHA256d. Both mining algorithms will thus be ASIC minable and blocks will be distributed equally between the two algorithms, thus a Scrypt/SHA256d 1/1 mining model. Each algo will on average finds one block every 6 minutes, keeping the normal pace of Anoncoin mining schedule as actually used (ie one block every 3 min). The benefits for the Anoncoin network will be a better security with regards to a 51% attack as well as a better spread of block mining time (if one algo is stuck at a high diff due to a multipool jumping off, the other algorithm will not be affected). No merge mining will be allowed for any of the two algorithms in this hardfork, although for security reason this could eventually happen in a (distant) future. Until then Anoncoin will remain a pure POW coin. We also finally chose to not include a CPU mining algorithm such as PRIME for fear of low hashrate and thus opening risk of an attack from botnet. Same logical reasoning made us avoid GPU algorithms, to not be in the same situation than myriadcoin is with Groestl right now. The two algos implementation is still a work in progress. Thirdly, a recent analysis by GroundRod of our 70007 node protocol version was effected. As it turns out, there is the need to improve the compatibility of the clearnet and the I2P nodes. This is a serious issue and we shall make wise use of the hardfork to implement a new way for both networks (clearnet and I2P) to communicate flawlessly. We will not release a public version of the client without having corrected it as we want to have the best I2P implementation for Anoncoin, due to our coin being the default I2P-cipherspace cryptocurrency. This is what is taking the time of the devteam right now. Fourthly, the Anoncoin's test network (testnet) and regression test mode (regtest) were both updated to our new codebase. As soon as we will switch to the two algo mining, we will run a testnet and let interested people know about it to help us in detecting any bug that can result from all those changes. Meanwhile the Anoncoin develop builds are available, soon we will be at 0.9.4.5 version. BTW anyone using the 0.9.4.2 develop version shall update to the most recent version. Please check How to build Anoncoin. Finally now we have bootstrap files available as explained in How to use a bootstrap. We are sorry the price does not follow the work we are applying to the coin, but in time we hope this will be aknowledged by the community and price will correct. Of course, we cannot avoid people cashing out of anoncoin during this bitcoin rally. CS How can you guys suck this much? Switching to a new algo should be a matter of days, not weeks and definitely not months. The darkcoin dev team puts you guys to shame it's ridiculous. For your info, Darkcoin uses a single proof of work algorithm. You are correct that if we changed simply from Scrypt to SHA that it would be simple. However, we are implementing a model similar to Myriad where we will be using two different proof of work algos at the same time. Also, i believe that Darkcoin has full time developers, whereas Anoncoin is, and always has been, based on volunteers. Cheers, |
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Start a new blockchain! Make a fair launch.
How can changing how nodes communicate can be a hard fork? Why? All other coins can do this without hardk forking.
Anoncoin was launched fairly. Why would we relaunch? As for hardforking: Any coin that changes from a single POW algorithm to two would have to hardfork. |
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Thanks for doing this! Can someone work with Mullick to test the new wallet before the next release? It would be nice to have ANC trading at Cryptsy again right away once the new wallet is out. I was going to beta test it on Xubuntu 14.04x64 but get the following error after checking for Berkeley DB C++ headers... default
configure: error: Found Berkeley DB other than 4.8, required for portable wallets (--with-incompatible-bdb to ignore or --disable-wallet to disable wallet functionality)
Will I have to change to Berkeley DB 4.8 to use the new wallet. As I'm not sure if some of my other wallets would like that? Or will the new Linux binaries be ok like the current ANC wallet I have works. Although I think I currently use the i2p repo. Will that be updated with the new wallet timely. You might want to try to compile all the dependencies in the directory "depends", and then use ./configure --prefix=`pwd`/depends/<your triplet name> This should be foolproof, but obviously will take a bit more effort. If you get this to build on Xubuntu, we can add explicit instructions on the wiki here: https://wiki.anoncoin.net/How_to_build_Anoncoin_developthough I doubt that they will differ much from the stand linux instructions. |
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Anoncoin subredditWould there happen to be anyone here who might be interested in styling the Anoncoin page at reddit? I just installed a new css-based theme (Naut), but unfortunately, I don't have the time to figure this out myself. In essence, you would just have to add some kind of logo to the top of the page, modify some background and link colors, and remove a couple of menu items. There are a couple of add ons that could be installed as well ( http://www.reddit.com/r/naut/wiki/index). Just PM me if this interests you. You will need to know a little css. Lunokhod Thanks to CookieL for modernizing the Reddit page ( http://www.reddit.com/r/Anoncoin/). If you have any comments or suggestions, please let him know. |
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Anoncoin subredditWould there happen to be anyone here who might be interested in styling the Anoncoin page at reddit? I just installed a new css-based theme (Naut), but unfortunately, I don't have the time to figure this out myself. In essence, you would just have to add some kind of logo to the top of the page, modify some background and link colors, and remove a couple of menu items. There are a couple of add ons that could be installed as well ( http://www.reddit.com/r/naut/wiki/index). Just PM me if this interests you. You will need to know a little css. Lunokhod
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New Anoncoin developer buildsThis is just to let everyone know that we have put out our first 0.9.4 developer builds for testing on the anoncoin web site. At this moment, we have builds only for OSX and win64: linux builds will be added later. These binaries are for testing purposes only, so please use caution and be sure to back up your wallet. We would be interested in any feedback you might have, so please let the developers know if you run into any problems or have ideas for improvement. If you would like to compile the code yourself, instructions can be found here. I cannot seem to find the source for 0.9.4 Hi Mullick, Sorry if my post was not clear, but I was referring to builds of our "develop" branch. We are looking for feedback back from anyone who is interested in testing these. Our next step will be to create a release-candidate and then a full release of 0.9.4 that would be suitable for use at exchanges. We are currently working on building the test suites and doing some testing on the testnet. The source for our develop branch is located here: https://github.com/Anoncoin/anoncoin/tree/developcheers, |
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New Anoncoin developer buildsThis is just to let everyone know that we have put out our first 0.9.4 developer builds for testing on the anoncoin web site. At this moment, we have builds only for OSX and win64: linux builds will be added later. These binaries are for testing purposes only, so please use caution and be sure to back up your wallet. We would be interested in any feedback you might have, so please let the developers know if you run into any problems or have ideas for improvement. If you would like to compile the code yourself, instructions can be found here.
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Hi Darkota, I don't think that Anoncoin has been pumped and dumped repeatedly by the developers. It is true that Anoncoin has seen price manipulation like any other coin with low trading volume, but I don't see the hands of the developers in this. It is also true that the Gnosis's implementation of zerocoin was overhyped: my impression is that he was overly naive about the time commitment required to finish the job and that he did not profit from this (though I could be wrong, I am basing this on personal communication with him and judgement of his character). Now that Cryptoslave and myself and acting as project managers, all development on the coin will be in the open on the Anoncoin development schedule. We will announce here only when new builds/release-candidates/releases are available, or when important milestones have been met. There will be no hype coming from the development team. If we have lost your trust, we hope to earn it back. |
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Help Anoncoin translate the Qt client (Bounty!)In preparation for the release of Anoncoin 0.9.4, we have started a project on Transifex to translate the text associated with the Anoncoin-Qt client. We have chosen about ~25 high priority languages, but others can easily be added. Most of these languages are already partially translated as we have started with files that come from the Bitcoin project. We consider this a high priority task as Anoncoin should be available to those who need it, regardless of their native tongue. We are offering a bounty of 25 ANC for each translation that is brought to 100%. We would like to offer more, but this is all that our donation account can support. All that we ask is that you be a native speaker of the language, and that you not use machine translation. Instruction on how to use the Transifex site can be found here. If you would like to act as a reviewer of previously translated pages, or if you would like to help coordinate specific languages, please contact me. As usual, you can find everything you ever wanted to know on the Anoncoin wiki!
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Yeah. But who owns these 100 addresses? 100 real ANC community members or one ANC core dev & his three friends? Currency is about trust. No one gonna trust ANC if ownership is so uncertain IMHO. I don't think that any coin can answer this type of question (sorry, I didn't mean to be hostile). One aspect is: Who are the miners? The second is: Once the miner sells his reward on the open market, who buys it? I don't know the answer to either of these. As for the question of trust, I would say that the creation of currency involves trust. After the initial creation, no trust is involved at all. |
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Isn't there a fundamental problem with ANC, that people don't know who the big holders (whales) are?
Or how the distribution is? How many big holders?
Like in other anon coins its know who the big holders are. How coin is distributed over the community.
But in ANC not so much.
How could any coin respond to such a problem? - Should the top holders identify themselves? - Given that the top holders likely have many pseudonymous accounts, should they identify all such addresses? - Given that the distribution of BTC is not even known, why would a coin that respects user privacy want to make such information available? All I can say for Anoncoin is that the initial launch and the mining reward schedule were both fair. A small 4200 ANC premine was returned to the community. There was no instamine for the lucky few who got in on day one. No one who held long made money off of ANC. If there is a whale quietly buying up ANC, good for him. |
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Fresh nodes February 2015
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please, dont do that... connectivity has to be distributed. if you need peers and dont have a recent ANC build, add the seednodes via addnode=, it will resolve to a random WORKING peer. currently there are 2 dns seeds. And here they are if you don't want to search through the code. addnode=anc.dnsseed01.anoncoin.darkgamex.ch addnode=anc.dnsseed01.anoncoin.virtual-currency.com |
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Its been awhile since I've checked in here, so I'd like to give everyone just a very brief update on what we have been doing lately. First of all, we have a new Anoncoin web site, and we have reorganized the Anoncoin wiki for clarity. If you have any suggestions, or if you would like to help out with editing content on the wiki, please let me know. Second, for the past several months we have been working with GroundRod, who is now an Anoncoin core developer. He has experience working with other crypto projects, and has been instrumental in upgrading our code to 0.9.4. We are running beta versions of 0.9.4 now, and are working on fixing a few bugs. You are welcome to build the current version on the develop branch at github: if you do so, let us know if you encounter any errors. Unless you are brave, you might want to hold off on this for about a week. I'm hesitant to give a deadline for when we will have a release ready, but I would be surprised if this would take more than a month. Third, if you want to keep up to date, we have a developement schedule on the wiki that we update on a regular basis. As you can see, our next big project will involve updating the difficulty algorithm and changing to 3-chain mulitPOW merge-mining. We consider this essential for securing the blockchain and to avoid the problems we encountered late last year. This will involve a hard fork, and we have already made some progress on implementing this. As for Zerocoin, this is still the primary goal of the project, but we have decided to stop all such development until after our next release. Lastly, if you are unhappy with the pace at which we are progressing, we are looking for all types of volunteers and coders. We still have a few bounties that are open on the wiki. Even if you can't code, there is graphic design work that could be done, or work in contacting businesses to use ANC. Given that we are very close to a release, you can expect to get more regular updates here. Regardless, the best way to keep informed is by IRC on the #anoncoin channel. Most of our discussions are currently on the developer channel (there are pages of uninteresting error messages and tests), but if you ask a question at #anoncoin, someone should get right back to you. Cheers, |
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Where can interested parties research distribution of this coin? How is this coin/wealth spread?
Here is a list of blockchain explorers. At least one of them lists the addresses by balance. |
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I also am not seeing any active connections to the ANC blockchain from the windows client (and am therefore unable to sync my wallet). Could these problems be related? They might be. Perhaps we need some working nodes to put in the conf file. That would be great! I have not seen an update to the conf file in quite some time. Update: I am getting some connections now to allow sync (but not many) A new conf file would still help. On another note, why has it been so long since meeh posted here? I can see he is still busy with privacy solutions i2p stuff. This coin still has lots of potential with its name, i2p integration and Zerocoin code progress in GitHub. Any updates on the new hashing algorithm? How are Cryptsy deposits/withdraws working lately? I have not seen any recent posts about that either I've had 100 ANC stuck at Cryptsy for over a month. I submitted a ticket. They replied with effectively, "we're not going to fix any more ANC deposit/withdraw problems until the devs fix their fundamental problem". I can get the actual quote if anybody needs it. -NP Yes, we are aware of this problem and are in the process of fixing it by upgrading the base code to bitcoin core 0.9.3. Our first release will not require a hard fork, but should resolve the withdrawal issues that some (but not all...) exchanges have been having. The subsequent release after this will update the difficulty algorithm, and will also implement merge mining multi-POW (auxPOW) using three different algorithms (à la Myriad). If you would like to follow our progress, please check out the Anoncoin development schedule. We have a new developer who is helping transition the code to 0.9.3, and as soon as there is a public commit on github that we can point to, we will let you all know. |
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Official instructions for *buntu users or a highlighted link to the launchpad would help a lot of people. Since the Snowden revelations there's been a lot more people trying Linux out for the first time and most new Linux users start with an *buntu based distro. *buntu is a pretty popular OS now as well. I've got a little bit of insight into using the terminal and my friend is a systems admin who I can always call on for help. Although most new users will just give up and not bother.
Here are the updated Anoncoin download links: https://wiki.anoncoin.net/Downloadhttps://anoncoin.net/index.php/downloadsLet me know if anyone is having problems finding a version that works on their preferred operating system. |
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How many core-dev ANC has?
Hi Dewdeded, A description of the development team can be found here: https://wiki.anoncoin.net/Anoncoin_development_teamIn short, Meeh is the lead developer who is leading our upgrade to 0.9.3, MMauxPow, and i2pd. Meeh is active in development, but is also working on i2pd. Working a full time job, his progress is not as fast as many would like. Gnosis is the lead developer of Zerocoin. Though he has made a lot of progress over the past few months, he is now again working a full time job. It will probably be another month until he starts working on this again. K1773R is the lead for all things concerning mining and security. He is active, but does not contribute much to the coding aspects. Cryptoslave and myself are working with the wiki, website, organization, documentation, etc. We are limited by the progress made by the principal coders. Hope this clarifies things for you. To speed things up, we would need someone else to help in the code development. Cheers, |
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So, I just went through the web page, and read through twenty+ pages of this thread, and can not figure out what sdc is promising in terms of "zk". If you could excuse me for my laziness for not digging deeper, could someone respond to three quick questions?
1. With the beta that is being tested now, are the devs planning on implementing Zerocash, Zerocoin, or something else?
2. If Zerocash, how do you set up the security parameters? This requires trusted third parties.
3. If Zerocoin, how do you set up the security parameters? Do you use RSA UFOs? If so, how where these generated, and what is their bit length?
Thanks.
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Anoncoin progress reportI would like to give a quick update on some of the progress that has been made with Anoncoin in the past week. First, we have put together a development schedule that is now online at the Anoncoin wiki. In short, we are planning three releases, which will require two hard forks. The first release (release A) aims primarily to - update the code base to bitcoin 0.9.3,
- fix the KGW difficulty algorithm,
- implement multiPOW with three chains (sha-256, scrypt, and the primecoin algorithm), with each allowing merged mining,
- add DNS/I2P seed nodes, and
- switch from I2P to I2Pd (though still routing traffic through the SAM bridge).
The biggest change will be the change in the mining algorithm. The idea is to use several different proof-of-work algorithms, similar to what was first started by Myriadcoin. In this model, each algorithm will only create one-third of the blocks, making a 51% attack almost impossible (the attacker would need to control two of the algorithms, not just one). Furthermore, in order to not be at the mercy of mining pools, which join and leave the network at irregular intervals giving rise to large spikes in the hash rate, each of these three POW chains will allow for merged mining. This means that anyone who is already mining scrypt (for example), will be able to mine Anoncoin with no additional work. We are open to comments from the community about these changes. The choice in the three mining algorithms was done by consensus, and this could be changed if there is a good reason. I should note that there is a potential drawback to merged mining, which is that people who normally wouldn't mine Anoncoin will all of a sudden be able to get ANC for "free". These miners will almost certainly dump these coins, and this will lead to a downward pressure on the ANC price (though I should note that the price of Dogecoin increased after they implemented merged mining). This will partially be mitigated by the fact that the 5 ANC block reward will halve to 2.5 in about 2.5 months time. We had some discussions about changing the time that the block reward halved, but most of us think that it would be a bad idea to modify this. Following this initial release, we plan on two other releases. Release B will be a cosmetic update, and will include a built in I2Pd router. Release C will include support for Zerocoin, and will require a second hard fork. Depending on how zerocoin progresses, the release time of B and C could be switched. We have already hardcoded two DNS seed nodes, as well as a couple I2P seed nodes. Though two DNS seeders are probably enough, we would be happy to add additional ones. I am unwilling to give estimates at this time for the release dates given the missed deadlines that we have all been subjected to in the past. As soon as I have a "hard" estimate, I will be certain to let you know.
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