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341  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: December 13, 2015, 09:34:59 PM
here's my back of the envelope...  First bubble to $3-$5k.  Correction to $1.5k.  Second bubble to $12-$18k Correction to $7k-ish...  maybe all of this could occur within the next 18 months, but it does not seem likely that there is going to be enough upcoming mass adoption to sustain any bull market for a "few years"

Bitcoin doesn't need "mass adoption" for its value to skyrocket.
I concede on that point; however, as adoption increases, we are going to witness more and more increases in bitcoin's infrastructure developments and BTC price is going to continue to rise under basic supply and demand analysis.

I was addressing your point that we would need sustained influx of users to support a multi-year bull market.

We only need a couple more trading desks  Wink
342  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: December 13, 2015, 09:20:17 PM
here's my back of the envelope...  First bubble to $3-$5k.  Correction to $1.5k.  Second bubble to $12-$18k Correction to $7k-ish...  maybe all of this could occur within the next 18 months, but it does not seem likely that there is going to be enough upcoming mass adoption to sustain any bull market for a "few years"

Bitcoin doesn't need "mass adoption" for its value to skyrocket.

343  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Bitcoin XT - Officially #REKT (also goes for BIP101 fraud) on: December 13, 2015, 07:37:58 PM
Just in case you were getting used to the upward moving price; looks like it's time for a new drama-dump: https://www.reddit.com/r/btc/comments/3wj0du/gavin_we_want_to_donated_to_you/cxwx4hx  Sad

I am actually starting to get more then a little peeved at the orbital bombing.  It's like every time Core really gets into a good productive flow (and, coincidentally, the market start pepping up) we get a new wave of surprising uninformed negativity rained down from above.
This is a low move gmaxwell attributing the drop in price with these statements coming from Gavin. I know people that have spent a lifetime doing price analysis, and they would never be so specific and certain in their conviction that such a singular event would have caused this. You are a smart guy you really should know better, unless you are now also claiming to be an expert in markets? This is not the first time I have seen you use such manipulative fear mongering tactics. I can not prove that you are being manipulative without knowing your motivations and the level of your sincerity. However I return to the thought that you really should know better.



Quote from: Gavin Andresen
Be a little patient... there is stuff happening I've promised not to talk about yet. You aren't the only one unhappy about the priorities of the Bitcoin Core project....
This statement by Gavin is exiting, it is good to know there is activity behind the scenes. After all there is a very large group of people now that do fundamentally disagree with the direction that Core is taking Bitcoin into. There are irreconcilable differences in ideology which do need to be resolved one way or another.

Yes, how exciting. A cabal of bankers, corporatists and butthurt developers colluding to make another attempt at disrupting existing economic consensus.
344  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: December 12, 2015, 11:30:10 PM
miss me with your transaction FUD

them chinese keep all their coins on exchange anyway  Cheesy
345  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: December 12, 2015, 10:54:13 PM
When the network gets near hitting capacity of ~220,000 tx per day, the rally gets its head lopped off... coincidence?

https://blockchain.info/charts/n-transactions

Any future rally will be meaningfully constrained by this "safety feature".  

... soon time to start high-grading for valuable TX anyway. It's an industrial level tech., can't always remain a sandpit for toy projects. Which makes you misguided about rallies being "constrained" ... but hey, who am I to stop people losing money?

A.Miners should decide which transactions are valuable enough to process, B. not a central planning committee. Especially not a committee which is dominated by a for profit company which was explicitly formed to offer a "solution" to the "problem".

 Huh

*facepalms*

which one is it.? a central planning committee of miners?
346  Bitcoin / Development & Technical Discussion / Re: Segregated witness - The solution to Scalability (short term)? on: December 12, 2015, 10:03:58 PM
i think every bitcoin software whether its SPV, SW, LN or core all check every transaction before saving to file or relaying.

SPV doesn't check signatures.

relying on someone else to do checks, to trust them when they say everything is ok, and only double check when they say is wrong seems a little backwards

That's actually how a good share of the ecosystem presently operates. What did you think everyone runs a full node?

It seems to me there are fundamentals holes in your understanding that prevent you from making any progress in your comprehension of SW.

347  Bitcoin / Development & Technical Discussion / Re: Segregated witness - The solution to Scalability (short term)? on: December 12, 2015, 07:21:35 PM
typically an honest dev will barely understand or test how malicious users exploiting the weakness of the system.

I'm sorry but that's not knowing the thought process of current core devs.

Adversarial environments are all Peter Todd talks about.
348  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: December 12, 2015, 05:32:07 PM
[quote author=Yrpapyrtersplooz

>Who do you think controls the stock market ? Not the retail investors...they are just pawns in the game!
It's a cat and mouse game between regulators and people finding ways to circumvent regulations. Been going on forever, both sides have great arsenals.
What you're seeing in BTC markets is, all of a sudden, the regulations are removed. And every scheme from the turn of the past century is suddenly new & fresh again, nothing to stop it.

That said, the retail [I'm guessing you mean 'small-time, Joe Average' investor is always at a disadvantage. That's why real markets have notions like 'accredited investor,' to save Joe Sixpack from his own ignorant greed, from having his ass handed to him.
This, BTW, is also the reason behind regulations against Three Card Monte games -- your Saurian Overlords don't want you to go broke 'calculating risks for a living,' & ending up on Welfare Smiley
The Original HyperJacked...

Your debating with someone who has been around the stock market since the 1970's..
[/quote]

And you're debating with an unrepenting troll  Undecided
349  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: December 12, 2015, 05:28:25 PM
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What do you make of giant cup & handle forming?


Which chart are you looking at? 1Day?

Showing up on the 6h & 4h

Meh. I don't really see a cup and handle in the 6H/4H. Just noise.

I see this in the 1Day:

I also see that we have broke the down trend in the bigger picture as of September.

I'll take that!
350  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: December 12, 2015, 05:12:32 PM
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What do you make of giant cup & handle forming?


Which chart are you looking at? 1Day?

Showing up on the 6h & 4h
351  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: December 12, 2015, 04:39:41 PM
And china shit theirs pants Cheesy It was foreseeable

Was it China? It looks to me like the heavy volume during the dump was on the USD exchanges (well, stamp and finex) - on the CNY exchanges volume didn't seem to change during the dump.

It's probably just Christmas. I've been waiting for the price to climb as high as it can before about the 20th so I can sell and use any realized profit for presents. I expect small batches of sell offs between now and the 24th on USD exchanges will continue to happen as people find things they want to give as gifts.

Christmas dont dump 80 000 BTC in 3 min.

Why not? Do you have any idea how much is spent on Christmas every year? U.S. shoppers spent $9.1 billion at stores on Black Friday.

First of all we are all following China and China doesn't give F*** about christmas. Secondly this swings are heavy manipulation of whales for sure. When some individuals cash out 10 BTC on different times on western exchanges it won't move the price and China man are happy to buy your western coins. We didn't see big movements on Black Friday also. It was just going up a bit and dump what everybody where afraid after never happened.
I don't think christmas will give any important effect on price.

Really? Oh, excuse me then. I didn't realize they did so much trading in the middle of the night. lol
Every night for Westerners 3AM-4AM CST (5-6PM Hong Kong Time (HKT) provides activity. If I were more efficient yet, I would've shorted the 375 exit. My short money was on a 385 exit. All the FIB lines pointed toward it. Now, when you get some skiddish bears with a monstrous pocket. It's like riding the tallest roller coaster in the world. My short standards were set too high I guess. Wink

I can most certainly see this is the bottom though. Head and shoulders drop off line rejected. Willy says up. This was just a small correction in the rocket's course.

What do you make of giant cup & handle forming?
352  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: December 12, 2015, 03:18:00 PM
BitPay is fine, they will probably end up needing to hire again soon....

Fine?

They were on the verge of bankruptcy a few months ago.

They're on VC life support and in all likelyhood generate not one dollar of profit
353  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: December 12, 2015, 02:28:09 AM
354  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: December 12, 2015, 02:15:37 AM
How is stamp/finex $40 over Huobi?  Huh

Normally its the opposite

It's not  Huh

Are you on bitcoinwisdom? It's buggy.
355  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: December 12, 2015, 02:12:40 AM
Finex is leading the charge like a champ !
356  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: December 12, 2015, 01:56:24 AM
This rally is losing steam. Nobody wants to pay $450+. Everyone remembers what happened last time the price went this high this fast. When the bubble pops again, people are gonna get hurt.

Yep, losing steam alright, all the way to over $460.

The people getting hurt are the shorters and those who sold too early.

Of course we'll have corrections along the way but this 5 month old uptrend is far from over.

+1

there is no supply at these prices

miners are fighting for coins, weak hands have been flushed.

the scarcity is real. you can feel the halvening already  Wink
357  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: December 12, 2015, 01:39:56 AM
this is nuts  Shocked
358  Economy / Speculation / Re: Be sure, this will drop hard soon... and here is why... on: December 12, 2015, 12:15:44 AM
so it's dropping forward, because preev tell me 420 right now, we are returning to the rpevious peak, which was 500 with the last pump

i'm expecting few big swings while we are headig there, so another price correction is on the finishing straight


I love all these threads predicting the huge drops while all we do is keep surging upwards and we are doing this for weeks now.

Guys, stop wasting your time. We are going up and none of these negative threads can do anything about it.

There are enough miners and speculators that will take profit at some point. It can not go up forever.

There are still trillions of dollars worth of capital that have yet to move into Bitcoin.

Still have ample room to go up!
359  Economy / Speculation / Re: Critical Levels - EW analysis on: December 12, 2015, 12:13:08 AM
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Tzupy,

Curious, why are you bearish?

Because I believe this has run out of steam, and a correction (amplitude unknown) is due, but for now the little triangle broke up.
There is a bearish divergence in MACD in 1h and 2h, and soon the 6h PSAR (and then 12h) may flip to bearish.
Without the little pump that corrected lower than the start point, we would have an hour or two till the correction.
With the little pump, if there's going to be a correction, it will happen again while I'm asleep (I hope not).

Is it still bearish  Huh
360  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: December 11, 2015, 11:18:20 PM
That volume though...
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