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161  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN] Syscoin - Business on the Blockchain - LAUNCHED! on: August 22, 2014, 05:54:18 AM
This is really impressive. I've invested a lot in presale and I hope it will be one of the best investments this year.

It should be emphasised as much as possible that this is the only coin with guaranteed at least 6 months of development.
162  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN] Syscoin - Business on the Blockchain - LAUNCHED! on: August 21, 2014, 06:43:52 AM
What happened seems really great. Basically, we are guaranteed development of the coin for at least 6 months - if not by devs (although there is no reason for them to diappear, since they will be given 1500 BTC in the next 6 months for development and for their own profits), then by devs hired by Moolah. This might be the most powerful coin on the market now and best tactic would be to just hide your coins and reopen your wallet after few months - like with Bitcoin in the good old times.
163  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN] Syscoin - Business on the Blockchain - LAUNCHED! on: August 20, 2014, 05:43:47 PM
Great! We can move forward now!
164  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN] Syscoin - Business on the Blockchain - LAUNCHED! on: August 20, 2014, 11:31:51 AM
Syscoin offer a 100% refund on failure to deliver of it's promised 5 core-features (escrow thru Moolah).

Oops. Top job moolah.

Now moolah claims there was hidden terms and conditions claiming they were allowed to fail and then slowly fix it. Moolah/slex pure scum.

I think this is really simple.

ICO investors are screaming - refund us!
Those who investedlater + pumpers and dumpers are screaming - no refunds!

The question is: which group is more important to developers of this coin?

I personally think that definitely terms of ICO were not met. I've lost on this coin but I am willing to accept it (however I am sad that I as a true believer in this coin have much worse entry polsition than pumpers and dumpers).

Once again I recomment the 518 buy wall solution. I personally would not dump into this wall and I guess many other ICO investors also would not. Some people would though, but it is good, since everyon would get what they want. I bet devs  wouldstay with more than 1000 BTC (which is enough for decent development) and all the FUD would end.

I agree that argument "you could sell for 1000 satoshi" brought in by one of the developers is invalid. Only few people were able to sell coins back then and also why would you want to reward people who dropped your coin.

We all know that devs don't have their money yet. But promise of 518 satoshi exit wall is one thing that could do miracles for this coin.
165  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN] Syscoin - Business on the Blockchain - LAUNCHED! on: August 20, 2014, 09:25:53 AM
This is merely biggest disaster in crypto!

I've been following this coin for weeks (months, actually) and had faith in devs from the beginning.
But it seems that those people might be great coders with vision, however they totally don't understant how crypto markets work.

This is  D-I-S-A-S-T-E-R!

Why? Because hundreds of ICO investors are feeling fucked right now. Of course crypto is about risk but all successful IPO/ICO coins were using presale money to sustain the price. This way they were gaining HUGE ARMY OF LOYAL INVESTORS WHO WERE PROMOTING THE COIN FOR THEM. That is the basic of price management. Maybe some (most?) coins do not admit to supporting their own price but this is how it works in the first stage.

And here? Instead of hundreds of loyal investors to promote their coin, Syscoin developers gained hundreds of whiners and FUDDers. And this won't end in a week or two - this will continue for many months. I have to admit I didn't expect that.

Few months ago someone was posting here that he will wait and buy when we are in the 200 satoshi price range. People were laughing at him but it seems that he had a point after all. This is going down. I am holding my ICO but I already accepted that I might lose on that one.

Devs, I am not here to troll. I am here to help and keeping my mouth quite won't help. All cool innovations on blockchain are great, but first things first - it seems that you have bred not hundreds of loyal fans, but hundreds of desperate haters. And they will bring this coin down, no matter what you do. Exit buy wall is a must now. You will lose some of those presale BTC and you need to accept this. The longer you wait with announcing the wall and the longer you wait with building it after you get the ICO money, the more you will lose.

Sorry, but if you won't take care of army of haters issue RIGHT KNOW, someone will just take your ideas and execute them in better, smarter way.

So many people told you here that exit wall at 518 satoshi is only thing that could save this coin and yet you are doing nothing about it. You don't need actual BTC to do this, you just could promise that it will happen when you get your money and announce it.

Someone wrote here that "you could sell at 1000 satoshi". Insane! Most people were unable to do anything at that point with their coins. Also, we - the ICO buyers - were supposed to hold and help the coin grow this way. But since devs seem to - excuse my French - piss at us, this is no longer going to happen. People are just hoping to quit this coin and move somewhere where devs actually care about their investment.

Please, please, please - do not avoid this issue. Announce the buy wall immediately and build it as soon as you get your BTC. No excuses on that one! The buy wall should stand there and you could take BTC for development from it gradually.

Devs should print it and frame it!!!!!!!!!
I am taking screenshot of this now, since I am afraid that devs might delete this post.

Do not delete it! Act smart!!!!!

Or your coin is dead.

I agree. This ico created army of haters. They won't just go away. You need to announce exit wall NOW and build it ASAP.

Well, I was saying this before it was popular. Does it make me a hipster? Cheesy
166  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN] Syscoin - Business on the Blockchain - LAUNCHED! on: August 19, 2014, 06:20:20 PM
Devs, please read this carefully.

I've been with this coin from the beginning (posting in this thread since April, following Dano since February MEOW relaunch).
So... no FUD intended.

There is no doubt that the coin has some innovative concept.
There were also some issues at launch that all of us are aware (you luckily managed to solve those issues).

Unfortunatelly, problem is that altcoins are mostly not about technology, but about community's sentiments. And unfortunatelly, there is too much dark clouds above Sys community. We can debate if it is deserved or not but the fact is that there are many people here with negative attitude, which might be a threat for the coin.

Some people bought after launch or were waiting to buy but were disappointed with the launch issues (which were already fixed).
Also, there is many people who invested into ICO and now have worse starting position. This is especially dangerous - we have tu understand, that we have peple with 1500 BTC worth of coins who are pissed that they believed in the coin as one of the first and yet they are on worse position than all the rest. It seems that syscoin believer lost this round and guys who were late to the party are going to win. We can not let that happen. We don't want army of unhappy people. As soon as you get those escrowed BTC's you should definitely use it to set 1500 BTC buy support at 518 satoshi. Maybe some people will decide to exit, but probably most won't just because of that action, helping to protect the price. You don't have to do this, but please, listen to me - you definitely should do this. People won't be listening to innovation news unless they won't feel safe about the price. Sorry, that's how crypto works. I know you pot lots of effort into this coin and it is your dream to make it successful. Don't let this mistake stop it from happening. Protect the early investors who were with you from the beginning and you will only benefit.
167  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN] Syscoin - Business on the Blockchain - LAUNCHED! on: August 19, 2014, 07:11:58 AM
We are Ready to go to the moon now.

I hope it will be slow and steady - no spikes until 2015!
This way we can get rid of pumpers and dumpers.

Nevertheless those 1500 btc shoul be put at 518 to help sustain the price and give people way out. Devs are not obliged to do this but this would be nice PR move.
168  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN] Syscoin - Business on the Blockchain - LAUNCHED! on: August 18, 2014, 08:16:47 PM
Best solution that could save the coin? After getting the escrowed funds place it all at 518 satoshi level. Really, anyone who wants to exit could exit and the rest will be left for the development.
169  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN] Syscoin - Business on the Blockchain - LAUNCHED! on: August 18, 2014, 03:19:49 PM
Stop asking for refunds.  We're past that point.  You can forget it.  Once the coins were out their side of the contract was completed.

I would suggest that rather than having a bunch of people completely frustrated by non-working/syncing wallets the devs make absolutely sure the new fork is going to work, even if it takes longer.  I'm a patient person, but another day full of checking on updates would irritate even me.

Refunds aren't out of the question but I do want to point out the main issue here has been the regenerated service fees which in turn resulted in blockchain issues. We fixed that yesterday but moved to fast to fork leading to a "bad fork". All of the other syscoin services are working (there is a glitch with merged mining). We are working to resolve the fork/sync issue ASAP.

AFAIR it was mentioned by Moolah that they will consider refunding BTC to PEOPLE WHO DID NOT move their coins. I am fine with that.
170  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN] Syscoin - Business on the Blockchain - LAUNCHED! on: August 18, 2014, 12:12:42 PM
this whole situation is actually best thing that could happen to sys. it was told from the beginning that this is a long term coin with many future plans and long mining schedule. it might not cross the 1000 satoshi barrier this year and it is good since along the way we will get rid of fans of pumps. those who wait few years will benefit, btc style. those who sell wont be able to rebuy and wont make profits but they will help the rest to make those profits.
171  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN] Syscoin - Business on the Blockchain - Presale SOLD OUT! Launch Aug16 on: August 16, 2014, 11:17:09 AM
I just hope that the price will rise SLOWLY AND STEADILY so in the first few months we can get rid of people who want quick profits.
172  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN] Crypti | XCR | Launch August | 100% POS | New Source | Trading has begun! on: August 16, 2014, 09:51:43 AM
This coin looks interesting however lack of promotion and any other activity is disappointing. I guess in the next few days it might go to the moon or crash completely.
173  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN][VOOT] X11 VootCoin | Nitesend | Tor | Voot Foundation | Anon Ex RELEASED on: August 15, 2014, 06:29:49 AM
Hi! I've been away for a while and I see that the community did GREAT work organising behind this coin. This is disappointing, that despite all the community's work, the price contunued to fall. I might be one of the people who were most affected by all Voot-related things and it might be a lesson for me (and all of us!) to diversify our portfolio, because crypto world is really unpredictable. You might profit on bad coins and lose on good ones. As we all see, situation is harsh now. For the last few days I've continued to manage Twitter and I will gladly continue this as long as it is needed. So I will probably be the person to close the door here if the coin fails or I will be the one who opens the door to the whole new chapter in Voot's story if it manages to succeed. I was reading everything that was posted in this topic and I will continue to, however at this situation, when the community collectively took over the coin and has ideas on how to manage it, I will not interfere with the decisions and just be voice of the community or will aim to share my opinion in some cases. Let's continue the good work and see where it takes us!
174  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN] Syscoin - Business on the Blockchain - Presale Started! on: August 11, 2014, 10:28:58 AM
Hi, I am trully impressed with this coin. As Danosphere (and perhaps other devs) probably knows, I was following it from the beginning (and I was following his actions since January - MEOW). I know true value of this coin, I know it is worth believeing in, however we have to understand how crypto works. There is much, much speculation going on here. Building price supportwas already mentioned and I trust it will be taken care of. However there is one more VERY important thing, that might get overlooked - most "investors" do not read the OP itself, so we can't expect them to dig into thread and read all the details. Yeah, I know it is silly, but this is how crypto works, unfortunatelly, and such people are in mayority. The visit xcloud thread and see - "cloud coin, cool, buying this". They visit crypti thread and see - "cool, huge IPO, some new stuff, buying this". We need to make it crystal clear for new people why they should buy this coin - not in details, just in short catchphrases.
175  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN][VOOT] X11 VootCoin-Nitesend | Tor | Multi-Pool | New PR Rep | Anon Ex Soon on: August 11, 2014, 10:24:38 AM
mscollec tks, u help voot first time, although i was not in voot during the first time, I came here after 2k sat, plz help us second time. Thanks very much.

don't worry dude.. There's no point. He will either wake up one morning and realises that despite all these fuds there were/are many people who have entrusted their hard earned money into Voot. If it is any 5BTC is now worth just 1BTC..  Grin Grin

Life goes on I guess..Smiley. May be ask the VRC Devs to help.. they are very trust worthy and transparent.

Are u acquainted with VRC devs? Maybe you can help us contact them, btw, voot is similar with vrc, smstipping, anon send.

Isn't there a release today guys?

We are hoping for it but at this point I know as much as you do.
We have to think about 2 possible scenarios:
- what happens, if Smoke delivers
- what happens, if Smoke does not deliver
176  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN][VOOT] X11 VootCoin-Nitesend | Tor | Multi-Pool | New PR Rep | Anon Ex Soon on: August 11, 2014, 08:55:15 AM
Hi, I might be out of town, but I am here with you, waiting to see of something will be delivered or not.
177  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN][VOOT] X11 VootCoin-Nitesend | Tor | Multi-Pool | New PR Rep | Anon Ex Soon on: August 10, 2014, 12:18:45 PM

Hi, as most of you probably now, during recent shitstorm I’ve decided to tone down little bit Twitter communications and all those flashy announcement. Those were definitely great at that moment, but now it is time so see more actual development, that should not be obershadowed by PR. However, some of you were asking what were my ideas for even more surprises, so I’ve decided to post here few that were already prepared.


Dear Voot community!
Finally, we have something which we didn’t have before and what not many coins do have – a plan!
I have some exciting info to share with you and there is more in the pipeline that anyone could ever suspect!

From now on, every day (well, almost every day!) I will have something special for you. I don’t want to say too much too early, but some of those things are really amazing. There will be several surprises, some bigger and some smaller, and everyone will find something that suits them. Here is brief schedule. I’ve used codenames for each of the surprises and will reveal what is behind them in a proper time (eg. on the day given).

04.08 I-day
05.08 Welcome-day
06.08 T-day
07.08 Periscope-day
08.08 East-day
09.08 Open (Ψ - 21) day
10.08 Biggest holders appreciation day
11.08 ?
12.08 Cloudy-day
13.08 The peak day.
14.08 Biggest holders appreciation day 2
15.08 ?
(to be continued)

Above schedule does not include additional surprises that might happen along the way. Wink
Understand, that it is REALLY BIG. Now we have plan for every day. I am going to reveal it daily. Also, planning to pass the details to more people, so the whole project won’t rely only on me, since I think it is better that people understand that it is not one-man thing, but community thing. You know, trust issues! This way even if I get abducted by aliens, Voot can continue to rise (however I hope I DO NOT get abducted by aliens).

Happy Vooting! Smiley


Hello, welcome to 04.08!
Codename “I-day” stand for “Insider day”.
You know what? You have seen teaser of the exchange. You probably studied this short video many times. But what if you could actually try the exchange for yourself and look into some of it’s features, while it is still in beta, nearing the day of it’s release?

It is possible. One lucky winner will be granted access to the exchange. His mission will be to play with it, go through it’s features and return back to the community with short field report. Yes, you will be getting an actual article describing some of the good things that are about to come.

The product is about 95% ready, so few days before releasing it to the public, it would be great to have an insider check it and make sure that it was worth waitng.

How we will pick the chosen one? Well, we need someone who is fluent in English and capable of writing nice, short report about the exchange. The best way to pick proper person would be to test his writing capabilities. So if you want to take this responsibility and become beta tester and benefit the Voot community, write short text about Voot (any topic – recent PR changes, upcoming features, your personal story etc.) and publish it somewhere (preferably on one of the Cryptoarticles website, but it can also be your personal blog). Send me the link in PM message and soon we will pick the winner! Of course all the articles will be used to benefit Voot!

I STRONGLY encourage you to participate you in this project – this is unique opportunity to become Voot-insider and help the coin grow. And this will take less time than suspected!

Bottom line: first review of the beta of anon exchange is coming, launch date is almost here, and you can expect MEDIA STORM soon.

Bonus: I’ve just requested Voot Cloud proof of development. When I receive it, I am going to reveal it no earlier than next week.


Hello, welcome to 05.08!
Codename “Welcome-day” stand for “Welcome day”.

As you probably know, we are anticipating to be added to biggest Chinese exchange shortly (probably this Friday). In preparation to this day, Voot decided to prepare short welcome text for all new Chinese investors who will join us. Articles on Chinese trading websites/boards will follow. Many coins forget about this – China is HUGE market, crypto is MASSIVE there and we need some texts in this language. Anyway, here it is!

(Chinese text)


Hello, welcome to 06.08!
Codename “T-day” stands for “Twitter day”.

We might be having some great things in store for Voot, but many people didn’t even hear about our coin. They are missing an opportunity to become part of this great community (and also they are missing profits Wink)

Some of you are using Twitter, some of you do not. But let’s unite on the “T-day” and Tweet something cool about Voot. It can be about your feelings, about one of the features (available or expected), friendly invitation for new Vooters, or anything else – just remember to mark it with hashtag #Voot. Voot official account will be retweeting all those tweets for the whole day and you also can feel free to retweet other Vooter’s tweets. This will greatly increase our visibility and help us to succeed in bringing Voot where it deserves to be!

Do not wait. Send your first #Voot tweet NOW!

As demanded by Voot community, we’ve decided to set a launch date for Anon Exchange. If Smoke successfully delivers by this date, they will be paid (the sum is already escrowed, escrow info in OP). Also, note that after the Anon Exchange is released, it should be used for legitimate businesses only (Smoke team wanted to stress that one out). The exact hour will not be given. We are aiming at ninja launch. The date is 11th of August.


Hello, welcome to 07.08!
Codename “Periscope-day” stand for “Periscope day”.

This is a day, when the promised exclusive report from the beta tester of the Anonymous Exchange is revealed. Some exciting things to come!


Hello, welcome to 08.08!
Codename “East-day” stand for “East day”.

Why East day? Well, you probably guessed that one right. It is expected that BTC38, biggest Chinese exchange, will add us in the next 24 hours. When it happens you can expect MASSIVE pump and price spike. Please, do not get tricked by pumpers and dumpers! Buy your coins, hold them, and be happy to take your profits soon! If BTC38 adds us today, this will be a whole new era for Voot. They stated that it shall happen today, so be prepared. And if it does not happen today, do net get worried – we are officialy guaranteed to be added there by BTC38 and it should probably happen NOW.


Hello, welcome to 09.08!
Codename “Open (Ψ - 21) day” stand for “Open beta day” (Psi minus 21 equals beta, got it?).

Today we find it fit to give access to beta of the anon exchange to more people. The ONION address will not be released to the public, however if you send us PM you will be given an addres, so you could play around. The only requirement is that you must have Bitcointalk account that is at least 10 days old and has at least 20 posts written.  We are planning to do similar action regarding Voot Cloud and Voot Market later if it will be possible.


Hello, welcome to 10.08!
Codename “Biggest holders appreciation day” stand for “Biggest holders appreciation day”.

To show our gratitude towards the biggest Voot investors, lucky owner of top 20 wallets from the rich list (excluding Bittrex wallets), will be given special opportunity to access exclusive special piece of information. That might be some exciting update coming later, beta account in one of the upcoming services, date of one of the innovations, opportunity to chat with someone etc. Don’t worry, it will be done in a smart way and it will be made sure, that none of that information can be used to harm the coin itself. Lucky winner will be picked randomly and asked to contact thought PM and asked to prove the ownership of the wallet by sending 1 Voot . Lucky winner will be obliged to keep the information given to himself.

Let’s think of it as a way to show our gratitude towards people, who are heavily invested in Voot, and a way to build mutual trust between the core team and members of the community. Also, you can find it an additional motivation to invest into Voot.

 This can be a regular action, repeated from time to time.


Hello, welcome to 12.08!
Codename “Cloudy-day” stand for “Cloudy day”.

Today I would like to gather any questions that you might have regarding upcoming Voot Cloud project. It will be a cloud storage based on the blockchain. I am going to pass your questions to the Smoke team. I will also request sneek peak of the beta ASAP. According to Smoke team, Voot Cloud Alpha is ready. Now waiting for beta and launch!


Hello, welcome to 13.08!
Codename “The peak day” stands for “The peak day”.

Today we need to discuss how would we like to cope with the 1800/2000 issue. Probably this is the moment where the coin will have greatest number of sell walls and we need to overcome this problem. We need to unite, and eat those sell walls.


Hello, welcome to 14.08!
Codename “Biggest holders appreciation day 2” stands for “Biggest holders appreciation day 2”.

Once again we would like to reward one of our biggest holders. We will pick random wallet from the top 20 and let that person ask the Smoke team 3 questions. That person can either keep the answers to himself or share it with the community. Note that there are some questons that Smoke team will not be able to answer.
178  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN][VOOT] X11 VootCoin-Nitesend | Tor | Multi-Pool | New PR Rep | Anon Ex Soon on: August 10, 2014, 06:11:54 AM
I was huge fan of outsourcing idea, but still, there needs to be someone who will take care of chosing what should be outsourced. So I guess I agree that perhaps finding a leader (someone knowledgeable and dedicated) would be a great idea. To make the transition as fluent as possible and to give community trust they needy, we could introduce that person gradually. I am offersing my Twitter management skills for the new team if needed. I am still waiting for the reply from smoke. They didn't seem enthusiastic but they didn't say no. As for the current price dip - there are several factors responsible for that. First, it is weekend and weekend usually means lower volume and lower prices. Secondly, usually after being listed on a new exchange likt BTC38, there is price dip. People should be aware of that and protect their investments. Also, google other scenarios when price temporarily rises and then falls down. Those cycles are well known in altcoin world. Coins are changing hands.
179  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN][VOOT] X11 VootCoin-Nitesend | Tor | Multi-Pool | New PR Rep | Anon Ex Soon on: August 09, 2014, 08:20:22 AM
I've got more request Like this recently. I guess it will be smart to reduce number of tweets until Everything is delivered.
180  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN][VOOT] X11 VootCoin-Nitesend | Tor | Multi-Pool | New PR Rep | Anon Ex Soon on: August 09, 2014, 07:37:43 AM
Just a quick update: i will be out of town for a bit and best way to get in touch with me is through twitter vootcoin
Good Job...Pls come back quick.We still need you Cheesy

I am still reading Everything that is posted here and in twitter. Just because of a trip, will have mobile access only, so much easier to communicate through twitter. I toner town the flashy tone a little bit after suggestions during recent shitstorm but still serving to the community as messenger between btc38, smoke etc. and the community. I will provide new info as soon as I get it, just will tone down on hyping as requested, since it might be absed by pumpers and dumpers. Follow voot on twitter!
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