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21  Local / Brasil / Melhor “exchange” para o Brasil on: March 12, 2021, 01:34:00 AM
Olá,
sou usuário de novo.bitcambio.com.br há um tempo... e sempre funcionou.
Qual é o melhor site de cambio e de trading para o Brasil?
Já usei KRAKEN e LYKKE também... mas para o Brasil.. alguem tem uma opinião?
abs
Maiden
22  Economy / Scam Accusations / Re: [SCAM SCAM]MONEYPOT[SCAM SCAM] officially announced not to buy RBIES as promised on: August 19, 2019, 12:46:48 PM
Everything he touches turns into...hmm.... lead...
23  Economy / Gambling / Re: Moneypot: Powered by Monster Byte on: September 27, 2018, 12:09:54 PM

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Nice of you to abandon this thread and wait 1 month for an update.
What the fuck does this garbage mean anyways
[/quote]. Lol!
It says in the header, all trolling will be deleted. If you want money from moneypot.. you MUST be a troll...hahaha Grin
24  Economy / Gambling / Re: MONEYPOT alternative discussion thread! no posting will be deleted on: July 02, 2018, 05:34:33 PM
Sadly Dogedigital goes on with his Scam!!!

I asked and I will not stop asking when Dogedigital = Moneypot will fulfill his/their promise and pay us Investors the promised compensation!

he deleted another posting of mine.

here it is

Quote

same disappointing answer as always just changing from the word "Soon" to another way to say "Soon"



Yes, really sad.. Now the start a new venture with this Nessie.io thing, when all old claims are open and they fried BTC in the hundreds in the last 24 month of their investors.
25  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN] Lykke - Trade Bitcoin, Ethereum, FX and Digital Assets on: February 14, 2018, 06:59:55 PM

Hi, after off-chain settlement was introduced last year the changes since then are not reflected for trading wallets for example, even more so after Lykke migrated to a centralized model. Deposits, Withdrawals, Private Wallets and similar transactions are still settled there though.
Hi Mtnsaa,
thanks for your explanation. However, can I read about this move to the centralized model?
So my LKK tokens are no longer BTC colored coins? They exist only on your servers in a type of blockchain there?

Also. If I want to divest. So I sell my LKK and get CHF or USD. Then.. HOW? do I transfer into a normal Bank account. I do not find this in the app or on the site.
Sorry that I bring that up in this thread.. but I did not find another forum to post questions..
M

Hi maidenvoyage, sure, you can read more at the following links:

https://www.lykke.com/company/news/Lykke-Changes-Operational-Mode
https://www.lykke.com/city/blog/geeky-lykke-7 (technical!)

Colored coins still exists of course, the difference is the trading wallets (before they were decentralized (with a multisignature implementation where both the user and the exchange held one key and a refund address in case of a hack). Now they are managed by Lykke just like other centralized exchange. However private wallets provided by Lykke are still available and in fact you can still use CoinPrism if you prefer an external solution. However colored coins will be abandoned soon AFAIK, I can't confirm anything since I actually don't have more information about the subject but I can speculate that LKK would become an ERC20 token in the Ethereum network (actually LKK2Y recent forward contract is in fact an ERC20 token). Two years ago, Bitcoin was (still is for many) the most secured platform so colored coins made more sense but it's not the case anymore.

You can certainly sell your LKK for CHF and USD at any time inside the app/exchange, tap on the asset and select "Trade" or just tap on the bottom right button to access all available pairs. Just the same you can deposit or withdraw, in the case of CHF/USD, available option would be SWIFT transfer more likely to your local bank.

You can join either Reddit or Telegram channels where there is more activity! Don't hesitate to ask any other questions.
Hey mtnsaa,
Thank you for the excellent reply.

CoinPrism will close by March. It is beyond my understanding if that influences the colored coins created there.. I presume not.

How fickle the crypto world is. I thought that you could send something to cold storage or write into a colored coin and say 5-10 years after it would still be valid. But it seems you most likely will have your money on an abandoned blockchain without a protocol. :-(

I just found the buttons for SWIFT incoming and outgoing .. TXS

26  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN] Lykke - Trade Bitcoin, Ethereum, FX and Digital Assets on: February 14, 2018, 06:02:14 PM

Hi, after off-chain settlement was introduced last year the changes since then are not reflected for trading wallets for example, even more so after Lykke migrated to a centralized model. Deposits, Withdrawals, Private Wallets and similar transactions are still settled there though.
Hi Mtnsaa,
thanks for your explanation. However, can I read about this move to the centralized model?
So my LKK tokens are no longer BTC colored coins? They exist only on your servers in a type of blockchain there?

Also. If I want to divest. So I sell my LKK and get CHF or USD. Then.. HOW? do I transfer into a normal Bank account. I do not find this in the app or on the site.
Sorry that I bring that up in this thread.. but I did not find another forum to post questions..
M
27  Economy / Currency exchange / Re: [WTS] BetKing Bankroll Token BKB for Bitcoin on: February 14, 2018, 01:23:27 AM



I invested 0.1BTC in BetKing, during the presale. I also chose to have Dean sell my Bitcoin Cash and IIRC Byteball for a larger investment into Betking. I ended with 6208.6 BKB.

The buyback price is currently $0.0969, but I can only sell 10% of my tokens every week at that price. Using the current preev.com rate, 1 BKB is equal to 0.00001090BTC. My 0.1BTC investment (equal to a bit over 0.11BTC after BCH and Byteball) is now worth 0.067BTC, or a 33% loss. That's assuming I waited to sell though, as it would take many weeks. Not sure how much your moneypot investment was, but I'd wager that it's around a 33% loss.

If I wanted to cashout right now though, I'd have to sell at HitBTC, where 1 BKB is going for 0.000006BTC, so my ~0.11BTC investment is worth 0.037BTC at market prices. As bad as your MP investment was, I don't think you'd be down over 60%. But then again, they are holding your funds so idk. I'd say you're investment in BetKing would be about equivalent to MoneyPot losses, though with potential to grow if BTC price goes down or stays similar with BetKing tokens. On the other hand though, you might have debt tokens and eventually be repaid some of your losses with MP.

Woow. Thanks for the time to respond to my question. Seems like normal Investor luck tought. There is nothing wrong with Betking and if it can grow in traffic it will be a good investment.
Strange enough I think after a little retraction, online betting is coming back.. I do not know where I get this impression.


28  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN] Lykke - Trade Bitcoin, Ethereum, FX and Digital Assets on: February 13, 2018, 09:13:48 PM
Question,
So I have 45.928,48 LKK.

but when I go onto
https://www.coinprism.info/asset/AXkedGbAH1XGDpAypVzA5eyjegX4FaCnvM/owners

there is no holder with this value.
The list jumps from 45.837 to 46051 LKK.
anViPZ7Boo9JsitRefTLrguZtguiFjV2DMf   0%   46,051.99 Lykke
anLQCoaBQPhDCVbWz4Kd6XFgegnPCNYtfgK   0%   45,837.27 Lykke

What do I not get?  Huh
29  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN] Lykke - Trade Bitcoin, Ethereum, FX and Digital Assets on: February 13, 2018, 08:34:58 PM
Dear community, big changes are coming, Lykke is entering a consolidation phase. We are processing all our learnings and start investing in scaling and strengthening our unique positioning and potential. A transition period towards Lykke 2.0 has started.

https://www.lykke.com/company/news/lykke-20-transition
THis announcement sounds like the program for some esoteric church. Do you sell the stuff that you smoke before issuing something like this?
30  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN] Lykke - Trade Bitcoin, Ethereum, FX and Digital Assets on: February 13, 2018, 08:31:52 PM
i like lykke. I believe on this project.

All these new referenced tokens will put lykke in the category of key players. However, I do not understand why the price of LKK is falling despite all this good news.

It's incomprehensible  Sad
I would guess, that the owners, which hold large amounts of LKK, five time the circulation are dropping some on the market.
31  Economy / Currency exchange / Re: [WTS] BetKing Bankroll Token BKB for Bitcoin on: February 12, 2018, 11:26:37 PM
...me.

Kinda funny that your Moneypot investment, assuming you will get/got your BTC, is now worth much more in both USD and BTC than it would be had you invested in Betking.
Darkstar, I invested in Dez2016 Jan2017. I think no investment was worse in 2017 than 1 BTC in MP.
I always would like to know, what would have happened IF I had invested 1 BTC in June in Betking.
Does anyone have the ability to explain how much one BTC in Betking in June is worth now?
32  Economy / Currency exchange / Re: [WTS] BetKing Bankroll Token BKB for Bitcoin on: February 12, 2018, 10:45:23 PM
I quote in USD he quotes in BTC
33  Economy / Currency exchange / Re: [WTS] BetKing Bankroll Token BKB for Bitcoin on: February 12, 2018, 04:11:25 PM
Loycev,
do you have information about the true price of these tokens?
Do you think your investment was worth the price you payed in September at the ICO.

I write this, because I would really know more about the betking track record.. but I cannot find any statistics, betsizes, number of bets, bankroll profit..anything?
I see that the toke is stable at 0,09USD for some month now.
Any hints?
34  Economy / Currency exchange / Re: [WTS] BetKing Bankroll Token BKB for Bitcoin on: February 12, 2018, 03:17:08 PM
Bump: I've got 5000 BKB left to sell, the rest I'll keep for a while.
are you still selling?
35  Economy / Gambling / Re: MONEYPOT alternative discussion thread! no posting will be deleted on: February 10, 2018, 03:00:55 PM
They aren't off the hook, legally at least. You can't transfer all the assets of a company and just let the empty shell retain the liabilities...that's straight up fraud.
That is a fact!
You can also not “merge” through Equity swaps or whatever if you have such an big dept unpaid and do not invite these investors to the table because you are no longer the owners of the equity.
36  Economy / Gambling / Re: Moneypot: Powered by Monster Byte on: February 06, 2018, 02:45:49 PM
Maidenvoyage was looking to withdraw ~109 Bitcoin from Moneypot to buy into the BetKing ICO back in June/July 2017.

Moneypot didn't let him withdraw and forced him to remain invested in Moneypot with the promise that if Moneypot didn't earn enough profit from player losses to pay back Maidenvoyage the full amount he lost (31 btc?) since investing in Moneypot that they would pay this amount from their own pocket.

If they didn't have 31 BTC then it was obvious that a site with no traffic would not generate enough profit to pay that back or that you could pay out of your own pocket with the huge increase in Bitcoin price from July to December.

It's now February and Moneypot didn't make enough profit to pay back Maidenvoyage and they haven't paid out of their own pocket either.

Since July Moneypot tried to do an ICO, presumabley this was the plan to raise the funds to pay back Maidenvoyage by December, but it failed to raise the amount needed and was cancelled.

Then there was the merge with MonsterByte that again, I assumed would pay Maidenvoyage his losses with the funds they raised in their own ICO but that doesn't seem to be the case and it looks like MonsterByte might not even own or want to work with MoneyPot now.

I can't see how Moneypot can ever recoup 140 Bitcoin to pay back Maidenvoyage, certainly not by some debt token for a site with no traffic.

I think that Moneypot should send all Bitcoin they own to an address and sign a message proving they own the funds.
If they don't want to make the address public for whatever reason I, Ryan or dooglus can verify the signature and at least Maidenvoyage can get an idea of the maximum he might be able to recoup based on the reserves Moneypot has.

Everything correct and a solution here "in the forum" of any kind surely might be welcome and more effective. Until then I prosecute MP through the legal system for this colossal loss and embezzlement.
37  Economy / Gambling / Re: Moneypot: Powered by Monster Byte on: February 04, 2018, 02:09:40 PM
All users that have an available balance will be paid out as mentioned previously.  The specific user above does not have an available balance and is being handled through the proper channels.  

Moneypot legacy is responsible for the debt contributions and are not an empty shell company.  The debt tokens were an agreed upon contribution using partial income.  The debt tokens do not apply to investors or player balances past the specific date of December 16, 2016.

Please do not speculate.  Continuing to do so in this thread may lead to having your post deleted to avoid misinterpretation and misunderstandings.

All announcements made recently remain the same and will come into fruition soon.

Thank you.
This implies some sort of an agreement. I must state to the community that there is NO such thing as an agreement or "specific user does not have an available balance... handled proper channels".
The proper channels is the Canadian Law System where I have filed a claim.
Moneypot INC has during the year of 2017 in many occasions refused to pay me back, always coming up with new ponzi scheme like "wait a little we pay you more tomorrow" promises or even this ICO, or now this "Debt Token" thing. Like the one above. I mean..look at the language.. " responsible for the debt contributions..... " , "debt tokes w(h)ere an agreed upon contribution using partial income...". What does that even mean?  
If they do not grow up, come up with the money that people still have in their Bankroll or in other claims, they show that they are indeed broke.
38  Economy / Gambling / Re: Moneypot: Powered by Monster Byte on: February 02, 2018, 04:07:49 PM
Continued transition and changes to Moneypot:

This is a reminder to all Moneypot and Moneypot legacy users to review all changes made to the new Moneypot powered by MonsterByte site and to also make sure they transfer or withdraw their balance from withdraw.moneypot.com if they had an available balance.  All transfers initiated through this process have been filled, save for a few larger ones that pended review.  These will completed within the following week.  At the end of this month, Moneypot will post a full proof of reserves for all funds invested and transferred onto Moneypot: powered by MonsterByte.

I would be one of the "few larger ones that pended review" .
When I go into withdraw.moneypot.com my balance shows "0" .
Could Kindly prop up my account so I can retrieve my Bankroll investment which must sum to ±100BTC.
See a screenshot here:


I hope you can show a "full prove of reserves" for the ones who will opt into Monsterbyte. But I hope you can honor this and other liabilities that MONEYPOT legacy brought upon you...
39  Economy / Gambling / Re: Moneypot: Powered by Monster Byte on: January 20, 2018, 12:33:40 PM
I believe it was answered here.  Trying to get all the details worked out so we can announce as soon as possible.  

I feel like this is a setup/trap trying to re-hash it all, but it was me that announced the floor.

I saw you announce it, but I'm asking which entity actually made the promise, if any. Was it you, acting on behalf of MoneyPot? Or were you saying stuff that wasn't actually MoneyPot policy?
It does not really matter, because whoever stated the floor, was clearly in a position of speaking for Moneypot..
Thats why, when you run a company.. you watch carefully whom you leave in charge.

Moneypot has fouled up with loosing for its investors wherever you look. On the bankroll they managed to loose in such a collosal way, that there must have been some stealing involved. They did not pay out the Bitcoin Cash that they held, they did not honour the Rubies promise, they do not pay back their bankroll holders now. We have to end this whole charade!
40  Economy / Gambling / Re: Moneypot: Powered by Monster Byte on: January 07, 2018, 02:10:00 AM
Hey Guys,

When can I desinvest? How is it done? When I log in I do not see my balance anymore?
Yours
M
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