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1  Economy / Scam Accusations / Re: SPORTS BET IO HAVE STOLEN MY $18,000 usd AND ARE SIMPLY IGNORING MY MESSAGES! on: August 21, 2020, 05:56:11 AM
I first used sports bet io under the username mayweather14... I made some profits and withdrew. Then the next time I tried to place a bet, the website was telling me my betting was restricted for some reason so I decided to make a new account.

Again, I made a new account under the name "chelseagunner", made some profits, withdrew successfully... and then when I went to bet again the same thing happened! it would not let me place further bets so a few days later I just made another account.

On this new account under the name "Deanbetting" I deposited around 1.1btc and made profits and tried to withdraw my full balance of around 1.5 BTC... when I tried to do this I got an error message and then emailed support who told me to complete KYC verification. I did this promptly and they then replied asking if I had other accounts as multi accounting was not permitted.... to which I told them that I did have a previous account and that I was not aware of the rule of multi accounting. I explained to them that the reason I made a new account was because my previous accounts stopped letting me bet for some reason.

Ever since this email, the support team have failed to UPDATE or let me know what's going on. Every few days, I email them asking for an update and they barely ever respond. The issues started on the 28th July and it has now been 21 DAYS and they have not told me what is going on with my funds or anything that is going on.  This is a complete scam and is completely unjust . I have followed all the procedures and just want to gain access to my 18,000 usd. I have read on the forums of other people having similar issues and I don't think a company should be able to do this repeatedly.

I have been MORE THAN PATIENT. Waiting over 3 weeks just for them to get back to me on a issue that should be simple. If they don't want me to be their customer all they have to do is just return my balance to me, but instead they just simply do not reply to any emails or messages. Nor have they told me what's going on.

What is the best action to take as I am new to all of this .


Interesting turn of events, I have now received an email asking for me to contact them on some sort of application Telegram. This is all sounding a bit too dodgy for me. Why canít they contact me via email and why would they want me to contact them outside of email communication. Is this normal? Has anyone else had this.

https://ibb.co/WyH0YRd

Anyway will message them on this telegram application and see the outcome.


This is absolutely a scam, do not do it, do not provide any details over telegram. How has someone got your email address? Have you provided it to someone via PM?

Be very very careful
2  Economy / Scam Accusations / Re: SportsBet.io doesn't pay out my profits!! on: August 15, 2020, 11:23:38 AM

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You are supporting the following, affirming that it is true to the best of your knowledge:
sportsbet.io violated a written contract, resulting in damages, in the specific act referenced here. sportsbet.io did not make the victims of this act roughly whole, AND it is not the case that all of the victims forgave the act. It is not grossly inaccurate to say that the act occurred around July 2020. No previously-created flag covers this same act, unless the flag was created with inaccurate data preventing its acceptance.

Nowhere does it say "support this if you want to send sportsbet.io a message".

Actually if you read the original thread, this comment is accurate. Therefore I stand by my support for the flag. Until a better explanation is provided or sportsbet provide evidence to the contrary, I believe it to be true due to they did not deny it.
3  Economy / Scam Accusations / Re: SportsBet.io doesn't pay out my profits!! on: August 15, 2020, 10:33:49 AM
Not sure why the OP of the thread you have linked removed this topic but it's a topic I am very interested to follow. I do not believe any of the post to be incorrect as sportsbet.io did not deny any of it on their reply, it seemed very real. It's very possible that OP and sportsbet.io came to an agreement in private in exchange for removing the thread?

I am not sure, but I'd like to know more about it but I imagine we won't find out much more.

You shouldn't support a flag just because it "seemed very real". Anyone can create a thread on this forum and there's certainly no lack of that recently. Now you're part of the elite group of sockpuppets going around and supporting any flags they find against some entity they dislike, as well as known scammers (game-protect) and plagiarising ICO bumpers (hacker-whatshername). Well done.

The reason for supporting the flag was so that PlayerX could get the answers from sportsbet they wanted and for sportsbet to take the case seriously, thatís what they were asking for help to do. Had sportsbet supplies answers then I would have removed the flag. The flag helps them take it seriously. Nothing more.
4  Economy / Scam Accusations / Re: SportsBet.io doesn't pay out my profits!! on: August 14, 2020, 07:47:25 PM

And what is even more better, some newbie account opened topic providing zero evidence of anything except they posted text wall (unedited post here: https://loyce.club/archive/posts/5490/54903210.html):


...and that flag gets OP's support. Where is proof of violation of contract?


OP better lock this topic.

Not sure why the OP of the thread you have linked removed this topic but it's a topic I am very interested to follow. I do not believe any of the post to be incorrect as sportsbet.io did not deny any of it on their reply, it seemed very real. It's very possible that OP and sportsbet.io came to an agreement in private in exchange for removing the thread?

I am not sure, but I'd like to know more about it but I imagine we won't find out much more.
5  Economy / Scam Accusations / Re: [SCAM] Sportsbet.io seized my profits on: August 10, 2020, 08:05:12 PM
I also have removed my support for the flag, judging by your response which you deleted it seems pretty clear to me that your excuse is that you share a wallet with your partner.

Whether or not that is true, you should see sportsbet.ioís side of this and agree that you have got your deposit back and learn from this to not share a wallet with a partner who has another account as the evidence linking you will be very clear.

Luckily for you it was not an extremely expensive lesson.

I am also sorry to hear that your friend is experiencing a gambling problem and you report that sportsbet.io appear to be abusing this, also reported from other posts on this forum (which for a reason have disappeared), itís clear that they do not take this seriously and I hope your friend and other forum members can get the help they need.
6  Economy / Scam Accusations / Re: [SCAM] Sportsbet.io seized my profits on: August 08, 2020, 09:47:03 AM
Can sportsbet.io just hurry up and resolve this?
7  Economy / Scam Accusations / Re: [SCAM] Sportsbet.io seized my profits on: August 06, 2020, 06:38:18 PM
What is your true goal to commenting on these threads?

Are you trying to discredit my report now?

Why would it even be my fault? My fault for choosing to be their costumer, I guess..
Reread what adam wrote: they are not criticizing you nor are they trying to seem unbiased.

I donít think we will see any further comments from sportsbet on this matter unless more attention is raised to the thread, it has not gained much attention really and I think thatís because most users see it as the fault of the OP and not as a scam

They're basically just saying that a number of users think that it's your fault. Usually, those parroting the same old cliche of, "you violated the ToS, therefore it's your fault!"
Got you, I might have missunderstood some of Adam0991's sentences, apologizes if so.

I am just exhausted of having to go through all of this for only willing to recover legitimate funds, and then being pointed out as the one to blame.

The whole experience with this site was horrible. Sportsbet.io took more than a week to tell me what they would do with my account balance, and during that time I was going insanely stressed, a nightmare, as I did not even know if my deposits would be stolen as well.

Hi saturent I was absdolutely not accusing you or trying to discredit anything. In my post I had quoted another thread you'll see, as it was mentioned in here. Was not trying to hi-jack the thread but the comment also applies here.

Quite honestly, there are so many sportsbet.io threads at the moment, it's going to be very easy for sportsbet just to turn a blind eye to most of these comments as the attention from the forum is being spread around multiple threads, rightly so though as there is many users complaining and it's only fair they each have their own thread.

I am all for the player, I hope all players who are complaining can win their cases and get their funds back. Hope sportsbet.io sort it for you and apologies if my post came across wrong.
8  Economy / Scam Accusations / Re: [SCAM] Sportsbet.io (Withholding funds from 24.07.2020) on: August 05, 2020, 08:57:44 PM
Hi guys,

My apologies for missing this.. I was on other matters.

I asked my guys to look into the case and it seems the correct amount was paid out. Sorry for any confusion here.






If our traders or fraud guys decide to close an account, we always return the deposit, we don't want to take any customer's money...

thanks guys,

Steve.
sportsbet.io


This does not prove you sent OP the correct amount, also the TX the OP posted indicates that the amount he is quoting is correct and that you have not paid out the users full balance.

It shows that even if you win a bet, itís not won and itís not your money until itís in your wallet. Thatís not a nice reputation to have?
9  Economy / Scam Accusations / Re: Confiscated balance at sportsbet.io on: August 05, 2020, 08:49:24 PM
What were you betting on? Was it table tennis by any chance?

Seems they may have some users abusing their table tennis markets, not implying you are involved, but maybe they believe you are
10  Economy / Scam Accusations / Re: [SCAM] Sportsbet.io seized my profits on: August 05, 2020, 08:37:54 PM
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Betting is a form of entertainment and we certainly would never want a player to be in any distress from betting. We have processes in place to help players and will always be vigilant in seeing these through.
If so then I am very interested in this case: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5265723.msg54925391#msg54925391
I will watch this to see where it' going.

I donít think we will see any further comments from sportsbet on this matter unless more attention is raised to the thread, it has not gained much attention really and I think thatís because most users see it as the fault of the OP and not as a scam. But this comment from them certainly seems related.

Given the amount of money involved they will probably avoid commenting on it unless they really have to. The flag did not get enough support either

ó

Overall it seems that sportsbet are giving extremely generic responses to all these cases, without indulging into any information or reasoning at all, hoping users will just agree and move on
11  Economy / Scam Accusations / Re: [SCAM] Sportsbet.io seized my profits on: August 05, 2020, 06:30:53 PM
Iíd like to take this time to reinforce and remind all players to gamble responsibly in these current uncertain times.

There are some very concerning quotes here and we take them very seriously.  Betting is a form of entertainment and we certainly would never want a player to be in any distress from betting. We have processes in place to help players and will always be vigilant in seeing these through.

thank you and regards,

Steve,
Sportbset.io

Not to change the subject of this thread but I think this last part of Sportsbet.ioís reply might be hinting towards this responsible gambling thread of huge losses https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5265723.msg54903210#msg54903210 :/, not that vigilant it seems!

But looks like sportsbet.io are the target of some Russian table tennis scam? Not implying OP is part of it but I see between the lines that is their suspicion

And maybe some innocent users are the subject of their investigations and possibly being falsely punished for it
12  Economy / Reputation / Re: LFC_bitcoin sending PMs to his friends to oppose flag and bribing DT inclusion on: August 04, 2020, 09:41:43 PM
You are despicable.

Your adam0991 account was created last month with the specific purpose of attacking Sportsbet regardless of whether they are scammers or not, regardless of whether they users making allegations against them had anything of substance. You had just one motive to attack LFC_Bitcoin and to attack Sportsbet.

Shame on you. Stop hiding behind an alt-account and post using your real user  Roll Eyes

Thereís nothing in those PMís that Iím bothered about. What am I supposed to be arsed about?

One thing Iím bothered about is BitcoinGirl.Club breaking my trust & sending PMís to a newbie troll. Why, because he asked? Did he pay BitcoinGirl.Club for them? Why would you send a noob troll PMís?
You fucking piece of shit, immigrant dirt eater. I sent this dick head money once before for his daughter. Absolutely pathetic cuckold, how dare you.

ďImmigrant dirt eaterĒ. Wow seems like youíre the piece of shit with comments like that.

Also congrats on being revealed as a sportsbet and bitcasino paid rep. Very sad to drop to that level, players have a hard enough time trying to be fairly treated on cases without having users who just oppose all flags because they are being paid.

OP was right



Excuse me?

Actually I have mostly good things I could say about sportsbet, I bet on their site daily.

I joined to ask for clarification regarding VPNís which was never answered. I then got intrigued by all the ĎScam Accusationsí that are going on, I risk a lot of money in their site and I have an interest in ensuring these issues are resolved otherwise I am also at risk.

I have no idea who LFC is other than I saw this topic and the abuse he posted in the quoted post, and I am the you are shaming?

Get a grip and learn to read
13  Economy / Scam Accusations / Re: [SCAM] Sportsbet.io seized my profits on: August 04, 2020, 09:31:02 PM
There is something strange going on with the number of complaints against Sportsbet increasing. I am looking forward to what Sportsbet have to add in this thread, we need some sort of clarity.

An exit-scam maybe?
I don't really want Sportsbet ending it all this way because too many hearts (including mine) will be broken if this happens. I don't know why there are no clarifications even in the previous threads made by other users, makes me worried. I don't have anything on sportsbet ATM but these things have created a scary situation where the most trusted casino is behaving shady.

Maybe this is just how they operate but now more users are posting their experiences public due to seeing other posts on google.

You might be on to something but there is a little bit more to this because when going to the sportsbet.io website from the UK the URL gets diverted to sportsbetio.uk and there are lots of terms and conditions they have to abide by including very strict UK laws with them being based in the Isle of Man.

The website "sportsbet.io" itself has largely nothing in protection for the end user with their organisation based in CuraÁao "mBet Solutions NV (Kaya Richard J. Beaujon Z/N Landhuis Joonchi II CuraÁao)" and states "It is licensed and regulated by the Government of CuraÁao under the gaming license 1668/JAZ."

We all know a CuraÁao licence is effectively a useless one that does nothing except give a false sense of legitimacy to any website that applies for it but Sportsbet are differentiating between "sportsbet.io" and "sportsbetio.uk"

Maybe sportsbet.io is under some government pressure since they have some big sponsorships and everybody has their eyes on them so they are trying to eliminate any kind of risk whenever possible. Just a possibility and a shitty one...

2 different companies, from my research sportsbetio.uk is a white label site that they license from a UK regulr. They released this site as part of their Watford FC sponsorship, it does not accept bitcoin and is heavily regulated by the UK Gambling Commission

But as for Sportsbet.io, well thatís a different matter. All the complaints are from their non-UK site.
14  Other / Archival / Re: [sportsbet.io] Responsible gambling failure, not honouring their own t&c's. on: August 04, 2020, 06:53:16 PM
I sympathise with you. Some sort of help might be possible depending on the answer to these questions so please answer the following:

 - Which country are you located in?
 - When going to sportsbet.io I get diverted to sportsbetio.uk so what was the exact URL that displays when you gamble there?


I have tried to resolve this with them privately but they choose to ignore the matter and insist they done everything in their power to prevent this and it's entirely not their fault, which I massively disagree with. It's both of our faults.

I want them to accept that they could have done better and that they can do better in the future to prevent something this extreme from happening to someone else. I want them to realise the damage they can cause by not taking responsible gambling seriously.

This is not solely about my loss of funds, this is about the carelessness of the company. I want to highlight this and make them learn from this and evolve. I don't believe they are truely a bad company. As stated before, they were good to me prior to my self exclusion.

The world of anonymous gambling is a dangerous one for vulnerable players such as myself.

OP has gone quiet, I wonder if Sportsbet have reached out directly. What were you thinking?

Hopefully this thread will be kept updated
15  Economy / Reputation / Re: is it just me? on: August 04, 2020, 06:49:56 PM
I would assume itís more due to the fact that all these topics are appearing on google, which is bringing new users to the forum to also submit their complaints.

Itís worrying how many, itís also very concerning how many more who are having the same issue but arenít here to post it.

Sportsbet.io should really be closing these accounts prior to betting, wouldnít that make so much more sense?
16  Other / Archival / Re: [sportsbet.io] Responsible gambling failure, not honouring their own t&c's. on: August 03, 2020, 04:58:27 PM
The world of anonymous gambling is a dangerous one for vulnerable players such as myself.

It is, and the only way for you to change it would be by helping yourself, and if you want SportsBet.io to worry more about users like you then a legal action might make them double and triple think before a similar case like yours repeats itself. But ignoring it and treating your 36 BTC as a loss would only make them repeat the same thing with someone else.

Your best bet is firstly betting on yourself and secondly - pursue the matter legally.

As I mentioned before raising the issue with Curacao eGaming was useless and even a negative step towards you as they can use it in a legal action to backup their claim - please refrain from making further wrong steps and start taking the right steps to make your life better.


Overall a disappointing response from sportsbet.io, but they have not denied it so OP's story must be correct.

A sad state of affairs really, very sad to see. Feel for OP. Not sure I can offer much advice though, I hope OP and sportsbet.io can sort this out. I'd like to see it get some more public attention, could work in OP's favour.
17  Other / Archival / Re: [sportsbet.io] Responsible gambling failure, not honouring their own t&c's. on: August 03, 2020, 10:32:14 AM
Heh

I donít think theyíll let some forum members decide this one. I wonder if itís even true

Why would someone come here and post such thing if it wasnt true? It would be a waste and absolutely ridiculous. I am sure the OP has all the needed evidence to proof that his story is true. What would be the point of posting something like this if it was all fake? It would be totally useless

Sorry I didnít quite mean it like that, I am interested to hear the full truth and sportsbetís comments. We should wait for their response.
18  Economy / Reputation / Re: LFC_bitcoin sending PMs to his friends to oppose flag and bribing DT inclusion on: August 03, 2020, 09:40:28 AM
Thereís nothing in those PMís that Iím bothered about. What am I supposed to be arsed about?

One thing Iím bothered about is BitcoinGirl.Club breaking my trust & sending PMís to a newbie troll. Why, because he asked? Did he pay BitcoinGirl.Club for them? Why would you send a noob troll PMís?
You fucking piece of shit, immigrant dirt eater. I sent this dick head money once before for his daughter. Absolutely pathetic cuckold, how dare you.

ďImmigrant dirt eaterĒ. Wow seems like youíre the piece of shit with comments like that.

Also congrats on being revealed as a sportsbet and bitcasino paid rep. Very sad to drop to that level, players have a hard enough time trying to be fairly treated on cases without having users who just oppose all flags because they are being paid.

OP was right

19  Other / Archival / Re: [sportsbet.io] Responsible gambling failure, not honouring their own t&c's. on: August 03, 2020, 06:46:04 AM
You may be right but let us wait to see what happens when a Sportsbet representative gets in contact with you to address the issues you raised. I hope you post here and update us.

Do you expect the rep to come here and say - hey, here's your 36 BTC that you lost? ($400,000)


Heh

I donít think theyíll let some forum members decide this one. I wonder if itís even true
20  Other / Archival / Re: [sportsbet.io] Responsible gambling failure, not honouring their own t&c's. on: August 02, 2020, 05:10:35 PM
PlayerX47,

Can I ask if you contacted SportsBet.io after you lost 1, 2, 3 BTC or how exactly did it happen?
How quickly did you lose 20 BTC? was it in 1 day, 1 week?

Did you contact SportsBet.io at any point after losing a bit more - and have they told you anything if you did?

The most important key factor that could side by you (legally) is if you have some conversation between yourself and SportsBet.io - if they told you "Keep on gambling for another 24 hours and then let us know your '''final''' decision" then they can be held liable"....

But if you had 0 contact with them and only contacting them after you lost your 20 BTC it might be more difficult to prove damages here unless if you had any "similarities" between the new and old account?


I believe OP put all these details in their original post? I am sure these have been answered..

16 BTC over the course of a single weekend.

Then a few weeks losing around another 20 BTC is what it says, not sure the timeframe of the second loss.

Makes me feel a bit sick tbh
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