Chips on the V1/V2 blades were BE100 - gen 1. Chips on the V3 cubes were BE100 but shrunk - gen 2. Chips on Tubes are BE200s - gen 3.
V3 cubes.. huh? I've never heard of that. I was under the assumption that they started developing Gen2 (~65-90nm) and it got scrapped in favor of 40nm. |
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And I was once again paid a grand total of 0.0004 BTC today, despite my stats showing that I had earned 0.0015 BTC (1,000 clicks exactly yesterday!)
Why does the admin not even attempt to answer my queries, by email or on here?
What is your username at CoinURL? That sounds bizarre that only 0.0004 BTC goes into your account, that's a very small amount on 1000 clicks. If I looked at your history and it was 100% unique genuine traffic and all marked as 'paid' then it's something worth looking into. I suspect it may be that only a small percentage of the clicks are seen as pay-able, and that is the phenomenon you are experiencing. I'm sorry our support sucks, there's a few of us here but it's almost as though we need a full-timer on support, and we are looking for someone to do that. BUT BEFORE YOU JUMP TO CONCLUSIONS and I will post this on Twitter and whatnot is that we are migrating away from MySQL, many aspects of the site are already transitioned to MongoDB. Here is exactly Alex's response to my query about why pages could appear blank like that: We paid all his clicks. We pay them EVERY DAY. We drop old clicks in mysql DB. We are going to release new page with click history from MongoDB, working on it!  Tell him not to panic, we are improving service, old click list pages will be removed soon... So your "clicks pages" show blank but however they have been paid into a database that you cannot see. That is exactly what is going on here. You showed a screenshot of your empty clicks pages but I can see that every day there are payments being made to you.  However although your claim is invalid I can understand the frustration seeing those blank pages! Feel free to vent, I apologise for being unaware of how the database transition has affected the interface like that, but you are getting paid. Daily. |
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btw you probably didn't impress Alex by making racial slurs at him and I understand frustration, no hard feelings. |
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oh you had 0.008 BTC as your balance and you needed 0.01 BTC. that's the issue? I looked at your traffic and it is very high quality, among the highest on the website. There is a chance there are some clicks still pending for you?
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*sigh* more of this...
I saw you emailed there a couple times I thought Alex was taking care of it but I didn't see your email last night as I went to bed earlier.
How much are we talking here, 0.01 BTC?
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RIP HAL!!!
You will be dearly missed and never forgotten!
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So if you wanted to cool the individual blades, a 0.25A 120mm or better will do. A single 0.53A 120mm fan would be icy-cool, where a nice 0.2A 120mm will do a good job as well. Tried with 2x 80mm fans from old power supplies (0.16A and 0.2A) and they were not quite fast enough to cool it, but two 0.3 or 0.4A 80mm might have worked. A single 0.07A 120mm wouldn't do it, but a single 0.16A 120mm was actually not too bad. I wish we had a bit more variety here, but it is clear they will go with a single 120mm as long as it spins decently. We also tried a couple expirements: Replacing the single 120mm 1.3A (stock, loud) fan with two 120mm 0.53A (quiet, still 110cfm though) fans on either side. You only get one plate to mount a fan on but if you had two, and set them up in a push-pull layout to pull the air through... Not quite enough cooling power, stock the system gets 51 or 52 degrees and it gets over 55-56 with the 2x fan push-pull. Also tried vertically aligning it so the air pushes upwards and sucking from the bottom and it got about the same result. Also tried flipping the stock fan around, to push through the heatsink instead of pull through, and the results were pretty much the same if you didn't do that. Maybe 1 degree hotter. We received a demo R3 unit today, with our first shipment to arrive tomorrow.
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I say leave the LED! It's fine! I also like the fact that the massive heatsink is not one block. It's four mini-blades that interlock. Definitely cool!  This changes my previous criticism of the cube shape. It makes more sense now. I think the heatsink could be toned down a little, but it is a great product just on it's own there: a blade with a heatsink! My question: that little USB controller module doohicky, can it be repalaced with an ethernet version? Sort of like asicminer's original ethernet controller. Also you should offer these RK-Blades individually just as they are. In smaller packaging, you should do the math on how many packaged units you could put in a certain volume of a container. The RK-Box is a big box, each one wrapped individually, where I think you can get a lot of these blades in there. You only really save the room of the center piece if you didn't ship them built like that, so it's not a massive savings but a customer may want just this part here, plugs in via USB, it's a sellable product. Just something to ponder, I think these are fantastic. We will do some testing to see the passive temps! |
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You can plug them into a Windows PC without a Pi, and it works great. (just so you know in advance you dont need a Pi right off the bat.)
^^^THIS! Any details on this mate? I have ZER0 exp. running miners on Pi, not that I don't plan on giving Pi a go  Well, the Raspberry Pi is just a linux computer. The premade image is easy to flash to the SD card, and it is ready to mine when you plug in the miner because it has cgminer configured and ready to go. But you can just run cgminer on your computer, and they detect the same on windows as they would on linux. All four "blades" plug into the included 4-port USB hub and then back to the Pi, so you can plug that hub into your PC and see the blades that way, or you can plug in one blade at a time, they work independently. If you have ever gotten an R-Box to work, these are pretty much just 4 huge R-Boxes. |
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You told us there will be a Raspberry Pi for every two units.
I got my ten Rocket Boxes today but there were NO Raspberry Pi!
I also saw that Pi's were not included in the shipment to minersource. Not very pleased about that. @roxsie please confirm this. I was explicitely told over email that my order of two units would include an Rpi/hub/SD/power cable as detailed on the website. however, I was also told it would ship on the 25th and it didn't. This needs to be confirmed ASAP - If i need to go out and buy an RPi to operate the units that is something i need to know BEFORE the box shows up. I would also be pretty pissed either way if one doesnt come with it since i paid to get an RPi with my units, which is a $50 peice of hardware that would take a day or two to find locally. ps: still no tracking number despite multiple requests. looks like the order that was supposed to ship last friday probably wont arrive until next week You can plug them into a Windows PC without a Pi, and it works great. (just so you know in advance you dont need a Pi right off the bat.) |
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Is there a reason you always "sandwich" the PCB between two heatsinks? I see that in every product so far. Friedcat & Co only put the heatsink on the back, leaving the top of the chips exposed. Never a problem.
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First of all you should publish more pictures and a video with it hashing. Second, what makes you think that "Actually, the price of S3 is not cheaper than our R3"? The S3 costs 0.74 BTC, it includes everything needed to operate and looks like a finished product with great build quality. On the other hand R3 looks like something a noob would create if you provide him the boards and the heatsinks. It doesn't look like a finished product, manufactured by a professional, it doesn't include the Raspberry Pi and it costs 0.99 BTCIt will be interesting to see what happens here with the price given that the Antminer S3 is .74 btc.
Plus it does not require a rpi.
Actually, the price of S3 is not cheaper than our R3,but the power consumption is really good. R3-BOX,will ship out on 5th July:  These critcisms emphasize why I think Rockminer should go for a much simpler product. If it doesn't look like a storebought product, it won't sell as well. So just put the PCB with chips attached to a heatsink in a pizza box like AM did and call it a day, shipping + manufacturing costs would be a fraction of what they are, plus it would be a lot less testing on your end. |
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It would be very exciting to be a mini franchise. Us Canadians have the cheapest electricity around, too.
DEFINITELY something to ponder! Crazy idea but it's so crazy it just.. might.. work..
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15 pounds of aluminum.
Is that a 1.3 amp fan? I want to buy one, but that would become the loudest thing in the house.
It is impressive to see how so many PCBs can work together flawlessly like that, but seems way over-engineered. I think more material cost is going to the aluminum blob in the middle than the actual mining hardware.
Rockxie, you were on the right track when you designed the "ROCKMINER_BLADE_V1.2" component that makes up the RK-Box. I hope you can put together a simpler unit, perhaps that exact part (the blade) without a Raspberry Pi, USB Hub, giant center heatsink, fan, cables, etc. Think ultra-simple.
This simple:
Just a PCB with 32 chips on it with an ethernet jack. If you used that exact part but replaced the chips with gen3 ones, it would be a very powerful unit and leave the cooling fan setup to the end user. It's nice to have a finished product that they can simply plug in, but after watching the video I don't think this is as simple to use as it could be.
An alternative to a redesign, I propose to offer the sale of the 1.2 blade (seems like it would be 112-120 GH/s per blade) seperately, with just one heatsink as a seperate product to order. It would cost nothing to offer the sale of the individual component, it would be very cheap to ship, and down the road if someone's RocketBox was failing they could order the replacement part.
There is also a gap in the product lineup, it goes from 37 to 450 GH/s. You need a ~100 GH/s device to fill that void, and I think flooding the market with those blades is perfect. The blade is already designed and everything.
A 'new' blade using BE200 chips would be really nice to see and have. 100 GH/s would be equal to 37 Gh/s in a few weeks anyway due to difficulty increases. Difficulty increases are going to drive us all insane anyways. I'm trying to think about the cost of making one of those gen1 (blue) blades... the heatsink, PCB, ethernet connector, green power connector, the 32 chips, and the rest of the circuits and components that are on there that make up the power module and ethernet controller. These all have costs associated with them, but the RK-Box comes with a Raspberry Pi. That's... probably close to the cost of the entire 1st gen blade. Plus you need two RK-Box's to get a Pi. It's such a confusing invention, 10 USB cables for two RK-Boxes and 2 USB hubs, gobs and gobs of aluminum, it seems more like a prototype than anything. I just had to come put in my 2 cents, the first and second blades were fantastic and very successful. The USB sticks were also extremely successful, being super simple in design, they are going to be christmas tree ornaments and keychains for decades to come, I even still have half a dozen running at home. The BE Cube is where it all started to fall apart. Having 5 blades on a backplane in a little box, although the concept was superb and it looks fantastic (mine is running for ages now without interruption), the tiniest flaws caused a lot of pain. I had to take apart hundreds of BE Cubes one at a time, tighten every screw, and re-align the blades due to movement during shipping. The odds of getting a perfect Cube were not in your favor, often you had to determine which of the five mini-Blades were unable to run on high clock, and I effectively had to tune each blade and grade them manually, taking hours. When I have an RK-Box in hand, my opinion may change, and there's not much I can do from a user's standpoint but deal with what is developed. However it is the simpler designs which are the most successful and I hope we can encourage Rockxie to go further down that path. Basically like the DataTank immersion blade, with a heatsink and a price tag beside it.
It would be nice to see 1TH on a blade that allowed you to scale to 10 blades.
I think 1 TH is too much. That's like 80-90 chips? I think 32 would be the perfect amount. 280-350 GH/s per blade, maybe 3 TH/s on a backplane... Even make it compatible with the existing AM backplanes we have lying around for a quick drop-in replacement? |
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15 pounds of aluminum. Is that a 1.3 amp fan? I want to buy one, but that would become the loudest thing in the house. It is impressive to see how so many PCBs can work together flawlessly like that, but seems way over-engineered. I think more material cost is going to the aluminum blob in the middle than the actual mining hardware. Rockxie, you were on the right track when you designed the "ROCKMINER_BLADE_V1.2" component that makes up the RK-Box. I hope you can put together a simpler unit, perhaps that exact part (the blade) without a Raspberry Pi, USB Hub, giant center heatsink, fan, cables, etc. Think ultra-simple. This simple:  Just a PCB with 32 chips on it with an ethernet jack. If you used that exact part but replaced the chips with gen3 ones, it would be a very powerful unit and leave the cooling fan setup to the end user. It's nice to have a finished product that they can simply plug in, but after watching the video I don't think this is as simple to use as it could be. An alternative to a redesign, I propose to offer the sale of the 1.2 blade (seems like it would be 112-120 GH/s per blade) seperately, with just one heatsink as a seperate product to order. It would cost nothing to offer the sale of the individual component, it would be very cheap to ship, and down the road if someone's RocketBox was failing they could order the replacement part. There is also a gap in the product lineup, it goes from 37 to 450 GH/s. You need a ~100 GH/s device to fill that void, and I think flooding the market with those blades is perfect. The blade is already designed and everything.
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Nice find! I'm going to quote it so this thread has pretty pictures |
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I wish we would just make an updated blade already. What was wrong with that design? Rockxie has some great ideas but the 32-chip boards that AM put out originally worked great. A single PCB + heatsink, 32 chips of glory and an ethernet jack.
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Just as the title says, a simply game of banning each other.
Keep it civil.
Simply state a reason why the person above you is banned.
For example:
"Banned for having no profile picture."
"Banned for banning the user above you."
"Banned because your username looks funny."
Anything.
Go!
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