So does everyone else here! I work at my RL job between 5-60 hrs a week, and I still like to spend time with my family, maintaining my house, etc. If you are willing to pay for "staff" to monitor the MP 24/7, let me know, and I'll start hiring tomorrow!
Don't get me wrong, I'm not slamming your efforts. I'm just saying that as miners, there are dozens of pools we can choose from and I haven't had or seen any reliability problems with any other pools, this is the only one. It's unclear to me how big their staffs are. But the question you have to ask is, how many outages and problems are your customers willing to accept? I don't know the answer to that but there is a limit. How many did you lose with the last few outages? And how successful can you be if every outage or problem loses you customers (and thus profit)? I guess that depends on how many problems there are going to be and how many vacations you have planned and how much business you can afford to lose. I was your just about only SHA miner for many days sometimes clearing up to 80% of the shares. And I'm not sure I'll stick around if there's another sustained outage. If it was me, I would never let my business run unattended because that's just asking for problems and I would understand my customer's desire for a flawless operation and minimal downtime. You wouldn't start a restaurant and just have one cook, would you? Other pools have problems all the time. ghash.io has been having stability problems recently and that's the biggest pool there is. Other small pools will go down and not have the courtesy to shut down stratum so your hash is wasted and you don't notice. Peeps at least has the courtesy to shut it down so your hash doesn't go to waist. Correct. This is the largest pool in the world, and I often see downtime there... and they have a huge staff. I would say ThePeePs is doing an excellent job by himself i just always put trademybit pool as backup-pool at the end of my pool-list, if my preferred pool fails, miner switches to the next pool and if my preferred pool is up again it switches back, so i never loose any hash Yea, all the ASICs I have used have had at least 3 places for pools. Two of those are the Multipool and cex, so when ThePeePs was gone and cex went down (two or three times while he was gone) I had to scramble to find #3  |
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Theymos should be the one to do it and forward that email he got
I'm probably not going to do that. Responding to a clearly fake threat with violence (via police/government) strikes me as wrong and excessive, especially when it's just some stupid kid. He hasn't caused much harm as of yet. He didn't steal any bitcoins or release any sensitive info. (The screenshots didn't contain any useful info.) The worst he's done is convince some people to send him a little money. I advise restraint, especially since we don't know for sure whether this guy actually is the hacker. I haven't seen much evidence of that. Can I ask, why did you email him in the first place? This is what he emailed to theymos. Doesn't matter if it's a stupid kid. Everyone needs to learn their lesson sometime. It's better if the retaliation comes from someone with the same demeanor as theymos (who is unlikely to pursue it very far) to teach him a lesson, rather than letting him shit talk the wrong people a year from now and get himself seriously harmed. Extortion and threats are not ok (especially from such a high profile situation), no matter your age or intentions The email said: Michael, send me some coins before I hitman you. Not exactly Satoshi's normal style.  @theymos does an email get expired on gmx.com ?
I don't know. Have u received previous mails from him ? Did he use to sign those ?
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You guys ever think about leaving this kid alone? Because if I was him at this point with everyone knowing me I think I would sign a $10-25k deal with Newsweek to Dox Satoshi to just be even more of a dick.
You leave the kid alone he might end up leaving Satoshi alone if he does have his info.
obviously this is the dumbass kids mate piping in while he cuddles the accused sad kid crying in his bedroom. If Ross Ulbricht is being charged with planning to kill someone via a hitman surly this kid should be aswell for the threats made against Thymos This ^^ 100 % . Lets be fair here. I have no idea who this kid but sometimes things are just better let go, I don't know what this info from the email contained but maybe it's good just letting it be. As for making threats against Theymos, I don't know what was said but I would think Theymos possibly needs to be more worried about the US government and holding the funds for this site here than a hacker kid. Shut the fuck up. Go tell your buddy he stirred the wrong hornets nest. We, as a whole, take this very seriously Agreed. Attempted extortion and death threats (no matter how pathetic or amateur) deserve nothing but a sore ass over the next several years. People have gotten in trouble for far less |
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Today's lesson?
Don't fuck with people who can fuck back harder
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The fact they called Theymos "Michael" hints to me that they are either active in the community or have access to previous emails.
Im sure its not hard to find his first name.... It is , & really easy. Took me less then 1 hour to find Theymos real name, when i got my forum account compromised. Then you aren't trying very hard. Click Donate above... The Bitcoin Forum is a website meant to host free discussion of Bitcoin and related topics. It is operated as a service to the community, and all profit is reinvested into the forum and the community. It was started in 2009 by Satoshi Nakamoto, the original creator of Bitcoin. It is now managed by Michael Marquardt (theymos), Martti Malmi (Sirius), and Stefan Thomas (justmoon). Donated funds are managed by theymos. That was tough |
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So does everyone else here! I work at my RL job between 5-60 hrs a week, and I still like to spend time with my family, maintaining my house, etc. If you are willing to pay for "staff" to monitor the MP 24/7, let me know, and I'll start hiring tomorrow!
Don't get me wrong, I'm not slamming your efforts. I'm just saying that as miners, there are dozens of pools we can choose from and I haven't had or seen any reliability problems with any other pools, this is the only one. It's unclear to me how big their staffs are. But the question you have to ask is, how many outages and problems are your customers willing to accept? I don't know the answer to that but there is a limit. How many did you lose with the last few outages? And how successful can you be if every outage or problem loses you customers (and thus profit)? I guess that depends on how many problems there are going to be and how many vacations you have planned and how much business you can afford to lose. I was your just about only SHA miner for many days sometimes clearing up to 80% of the shares. And I'm not sure I'll stick around if there's another sustained outage. If it was me, I would never let my business run unattended because that's just asking for problems and I would understand my customer's desire for a flawless operation and minimal downtime. You wouldn't start a restaurant and just have one cook, would you? Other pools have problems all the time. ghash.io has been having stability problems recently and that's the biggest pool there is. Other small pools will go down and not have the courtesy to shut down stratum so your hash is wasted and you don't notice. Peeps at least has the courtesy to shut it down so your hash doesn't go to waist. Correct. This is the largest pool in the world, and I often see downtime there... and they have a huge staff. I would say ThePeePs is doing an excellent job by himself |
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maybe the hacker(s) are the ones who have been dumping the last few weeks? could they have access to satoshis coins?
If only there was a public ledger... |
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He could easily give that info to pretty much any publication for much more than $12,000 USD. It's pretty obvious he has nothing
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I know you insist and believe that everyone who owns M coin monitors this thread and will see your post, and perhaps they will, but the reality is that there are a lot of people who make a good deal of profit in trading these alt coins around. You're never going to convince anyone not to play the spread and price swings if the primary purpose of their holding M coin is to profit it from it (and who isn't here to profit?).
You're not going to get any sustained increase in the price by convincing or even just asking people not to sell. You won't be able to artificially inflate the price by getting sellers to whithhold sell orders for a little while. You can't just get rid of the sell orders, you have to give someone a reason to pay 2x, 3x, or 4x current prices for an M coin. You have to expect that every time there is a surge in price you will have a surge of sell activity as holders lock in profits. To increase price you have to increase demand for M coin organically. Give people a reason to buy, own, or hold M coin. If all you can do with it is participate in an ocassional raffle then it isn't good for anything except playing the margins and price swings on Bittrex, and that's what people are doing.
Much of Bitcoin's value comes from being able to spend it in quite a few places. Are you working on any merchant acceptance for M coin?
Don't get me wrong, I want the value to go up as much as anyone else. But we all have to be realistic about what drives prices and markets.
+1 Well said, and I think I said pretty much the same thing a few pages back. The value of M will remain where it is unless more buy support can be obtained. BUYERS raise the price, not sellers. Begging sellers to drop their orders is just that - begging. People playing the spread is the ONLY market activity happening right now. The Multipool is executing buys each day, but it's only hurting us, really. Hell, if I had a truckload of MMXIV I wanted to sell for the best possible price, and I knew each day exactly 0.XX BTC worth of buy orders would be executed at a certain time, I would place exactly 0.XX BTC worth of sells every day and make sure they were at the top of the sell list. The only reason I'm not is because about 60-80% of the multipool hashrate is mine (most days). Sounds like a perfect job for the two of you to get it accepted somewhere instead of just saying we are doing everything wrong. We are working on things that aren't ready, yet You could start helping, rather than posting negatively. Your posts are the first thing people who open this thread see. Do you want to them to see two people saying we are incompetent, or those same two people trying to help out instead? |
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From the evidence it seems that the hacker knows his real identity. The hacker gained access to Satoshi's "real" gmx email address which then had his satoshin@gmx address as an alias. If this is true the real Satoshi Nakomoto's identity will be soon revealed. We have been able to cross reference the purchase order to a bitcoin talk thread https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=193129.0 around the exact date so the email looks legitimate.  So the guy who hacked the gmx account also ordered an FPGA. Nothing on that Cardreaderfactory invoice has anything to do with the creator of bitcoin. in that case, either the hacker or satoshi is in missouri. Neither. Just a dumbass who used that email in a purchase thinking they were cool |
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Isn't Missouri where BFL is located?
Kansas |
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Not all of us can sit in and monitor a chat room all day. And I don't understand the difference of discussing it there vs discussing it here, I think we can get wider participation here. Please feel free to disagree with my posts. I hope my ideas are taken constructively as I am a supporter of this coin and I want it to succeed. If you have ideas about how to improve the price and what the plans are that would be a great discussion. Take advantage of me, you're getting free advice from an MBA.
You don't have to monitor anything. It keeps a log of all the messages Not everything is ready to be posted and viewed by the public. There are a couple things we are working on that we only talk about in IRC (with previews) until we feel they are ready to be posted. We don't post promises, or what we are working on. We just post when we feel things are ready to be opened up to the public and we are confident enough it won't harm anyone with outages until the later phases of testing I don't get it. Isn't the chat room public? Same as the forum? You can talk about things in one public place but not another? I'm not saying specifics need to be discussed, general strategies would be perfectly fine. For example you could say you were working with a retailer to get them to take M coin which would be good news for us users but would not convey any promises or divulge any secrets. I guess I'm too dumb to use your 20 year old chat room. I log in and there doesn't appear to be anyone there, no one is saying anything in the minute or two I was there. You can't even see if other users are there. And there's no way to view logs (I clicked on everything on the screen). The only thing I saw was a way to change how the chat room looked. And I don't have time for live chat so it really doesn't work for me, sorry. There's at least 15 people in the IRC at all times, but it's fine. Let us know your suggestions here, then. If you only think we are doing everything wrong, but don't tell us how to improve it, nothing will be able to change |
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Not all of us can sit in and monitor a chat room all day. And I don't understand the difference of discussing it there vs discussing it here, I think we can get wider participation here. Please feel free to disagree with my posts. I hope my ideas are taken constructively as I am a supporter of this coin and I want it to succeed. If you have ideas about how to improve the price and what the plans are that would be a great discussion. Take advantage of me, you're getting free advice from an MBA.
You don't have to monitor anything. It keeps a log of all the messages Not everything is ready to be posted and viewed by the public. There are a couple things we are working on that we only talk about in IRC (with previews) until we feel they are ready to be posted. We don't post promises, or what we are working on. We just post when we feel things are ready to be opened up to the public and we are confident enough it won't harm anyone with outages until the later phases of testing |
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Stop selling into the buys. All they are doing is doubling their money off you by instantly listing it on the other side of the spread
Any of you selling into buys now are just stifling increase and screwing yourself
I know you insist and believe that everyone who owns M coin monitors this thread and will see your post, and perhaps they will, but the reality is that there are a lot of people who make a good deal of profit in trading these alt coins around. You're never going to convince anyone not to play the spread and price swings if the primary purpose of their holding M coin is to profit it from it (and who isn't here to profit?). You're not going to get any sustained increase in the price by convincing or even just asking people not to sell. You won't be able to artificially inflate the price by getting sellers to whithhold sell orders for a little while. You can't just get rid of the sell orders, you have to give someone a reason to pay 2x, 3x, or 4x current prices for an M coin. You have to expect that every time there is a surge in price you will have a surge of sell activity as holders lock in profits. To increase price you have to increase demand for M coin organically. Give people a reason to buy, own, or hold M coin. If all you can do with it is participate in an ocassional raffle then it isn't good for anything except playing the margins and price swings on Bittrex, and that's what people are doing. Much of Bitcoin's value comes from being able to spend it in quite a few places. Are you working on any merchant acceptance for M coin? Don't get me wrong, I want the value to go up as much as anyone else. But we all have to be realistic about what drives prices and markets. You're right. It's much better if they see a long term supporter criticizing every decision (publicly, rather than on IRC where we can discuss the issue) we make as the first reply  |
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Stop selling into the buys. All they are doing is doubling their money off you by instantly listing it on the other side of the spread
Any of you selling into buys now are just stifling increase and screwing yourself
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I have noted that about 50% of stakes are not accepted Is it normal ?  I have a few orphans, too. Not many, though |
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I don't think we have done one thing you like
That's probably true. Maybe I am too opinionated. But the last comments are the result of my struggles to Google information about the next raffle. I can't be the only one, but maybe I am. Just passing on my experiences. you hate us I hope not We work very, very hard I think he meant the other guy Yes, but we don't want anyone to hate us! |
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I don't think we have done one thing you like
That's probably true. Maybe I am too opinionated. But the last comments are the result of my struggles to Google information about the next raffle. I can't be the only one, but maybe I am. Just passing on my experiences. you hate us I hope not We work very, very hard |
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Only 9 miners are going to answer? uhm...a lot of people doesn't mine anymore, like me Even more do than don't |
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I don't think we have done one thing you like
That's probably true. Maybe I am too opinionated. But the last comments are the result of my struggles to Google information about the next raffle. I can't be the only one, but maybe I am. Just passing on my experiences. I will probably start a new one this week sometime |
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