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61  Economy / Scam Accusations / Re: OneCoin: The Biggest Scam Crypto Scam Ever? on: February 26, 2020, 09:13:07 PM
Maybe I have to read a bit more about this, but I have difficulties understanding how the finances worked, who had the money?  And how would have Ruja Ignatova been able to disappear with anything between $1billion and $4billion? 

In order to answer that question, you have to understand how large scale MLM schemes work: to a certain extent they are decentraized, as strange as that may seem in an inherently pyramid structure.
Very briefly, there is a project.
The developers may be independent, may be hired to expand on a recognized opportunity (see crypto) and the word goes out amongst IMA's (Independent Marketing Associates) who have their own ad hoc marketing structures in place, a ready made sales force.
The New Big Thing: get out there and sell it. And sell it again.
These top IMA's are known by rank dependent on how big a downline they bring to the party. And they do their own thing, using the centralized admin structure, create their own websites (See BitClub Network's different versions) and take a rake of every sucker's buy in money.
Around 60% of total revenue into an MLM scheme ends up with them and their lieutenants.
They run seminars, charge for anything and everything, sell positions in the matrix for cash, anything to make hay while the sun shines.
So that of, say, $2b that went into Onecoin in one way or another, over $1b went to those "Black Diamonds" "Blue Emeralds" etc. likely never to be seen again.
These are the guys with the gold Rolls Royces and Rolexes, flying round the world staying in 5* hotels, saying "You can live like me, just give me your money."
A number of the OneCoin high rollers are still living the high life in "relaxed" financial regimes around the world. And, of course, looking over their shoulders for Interpol (not so much) and Gangstas with $5 wrenches.
And whole communities are reduced to (even more) debt because they trusted their "friends", in some cases their local religious ministers and random people on the Internet.

Here's some of the top brass of Onecoin partying at the V&A Museum in London 2016.
Most of the people in the video made millions and have since moved on to other MLM scams.  Two are in jail in the U.S.
It was Ignatova's birthday.
She paid aging pop singer Tom Jones £250k to sing for her. Knowing the way Tom is, he didn't take Onecoin.

www.youtube.com/watch?v=79d4ej3xhUk




The waves from Onecoin's demise are continuing to swamp various boats.
The bent money laundering lawyer Mark Scott (see previous posts) incriminated a guy called Robert Courtneidge thru emails revealed in his case. They were both partners at Locke Lord an American BigLaw firm.
They both left Locke Lord, Scott to launder Onecoin central funds (what was left after the IMA's had taken their cut) for the Ignatova's and Courtneidge to become a Director at ePayment Systems in the UK, a processor with offices in London's swanky (love that word) Mayfair and about £100m in the system when BANG...the FCA shut them down on Feb 11th.

Whether this is based solely on what came out at Scott's trial or whether there some plea bargaining and giving up going on, I don't know.

Sources:
https://ftalphaville.ft.com/2020/02/14/1581687078000/What-s-going-on-at-e-money-firm-ePayments-Systems–/
https://behindmlm.com/companies/onecoin/onecoin-at-the-heart-of-epayments-systems-shutdown/#more-54572


62  Economy / Trading Discussion / Re: A professional crypto-currency trader PROVIDING FREE bitcoin/alt SIGNALS on: February 26, 2020, 05:54:56 PM

Good short but, as a matter of interest, what was your thinking about closing above $9000?
To me, it was the middle of nowhere, what support did you see?
63  Other / Meta / Re: The Objective Standards Guild - Testimonium Libertatem Iustitia on: February 26, 2020, 03:50:59 PM


I have no interest in responding to a post from the latest in a long line of alt accounts, riddled as it is with disingenuous nonsense and deliberately misleading claims to altruism.
Before I leave this toxic thread, I'll make clear that my posts and use of the forum systems are inline with the current guidelines laid down by the forum administrator.
My so called AIDS posts are meant to inform and hopefully educate, and any feedback I leave comes from the same motivation.
I don't align with any of these apparently rife? cliques which are endlessly referred to, and I have no financial incentive for posting or for the content of my posts.
I don't disagree that some abuse of forum systems exists. I disagree completely about unilateral solutions to it, especially when the main driver behind this proposed imposition is a hypocrite of the highest order.
The idea that the censorship you propose somehow supports and encourages "free speech" is beyond absurd.
You and anyone else can include or exclude me from their trust; I won't blatantly retaliate, then thrash about pulling varying justifications out of my ass, like your boss does.


64  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Tokens (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN] $TRUSD an elestic yet stable digital asset on: February 26, 2020, 11:11:41 AM

Helping out with an update here, in the absence of any corporate information.


I haven't checked the rest of the WP, reportedly there are more copy/pasted content from other sources. I think there is no need to give more evidence, above is more than enough.

Indeed.
Apparently Kalen Dangerfield (the CEO of the non existent United Trust co, "the American made and regulated, fully transparent and registered to the US government company" that operates TrustUSD) has run off with the proceeds of his nice little Pump and Dump is taking extended time out from communicating with his sect-like Telegram followers, in order to write a 'Brand New White Paper'.
Maybe he's bought some text spinner software.

Just a quick update on this "stablcoin's" progress.
No "Supply Adjustment" information for a month.
No new whitepaper. (Still haggling on MechTurk?)
The price is languishing around 10 sats and Dangerfield's absence (nearly a month) has been explained by the death of his grandmother.
He is too grief sticken to update or post anything for his dwindling band of bagholders, but strong enough to retweet MAGA crap on his Twitter feed.
He's left our MAYA pumping YouTube "analyst" in charge of the depressed TG group, who has established that it couldn't possibly be an exit scam because bagholders still have 40% of the worthless token issue. I suppose that makes sense to somebody.
Brings to mind the old poker quote

"If you can't see who the sucker is, then it's you."



65  Economy / Scam Accusations / Re: TrustUSD - misleading and full of fake coomments on: February 26, 2020, 11:07:54 AM

I haven't checked the rest of the WP, reportedly there are more copy/pasted content from other sources. I think there is no need to give more evidence, above is more than enough.

Indeed.
Apparently Kalen Dangerfield (the CEO of the non existent United Trust co, "the American made and regulated, fully transparent and registered to the US government company" that operates TrustUSD) has run off with the proceeds of his nice little Pump and Dump is taking extended time out from communicating with his sect-like Telegram followers, in order to write a 'Brand New White Paper'.
Maybe he's bought some text spinner software.

Just a quick update on this "stablcoin's" progress.
No "Supply Adjustment" information for a month.
No new whitepaper. (Still haggling on MechTurk?)
The price is languishing around 10 sats and Dangerfield's absence (nearly a month) has been explained by the death of his grandmother.
He is too grief sticken to update or post anything for his dwindling band of bagholders, but strong enough to retweet MAGA crap on his Twitter feed.
He's left our MAYA pumping YouTube "analyst" in charge of the depressed TG group, who has established that it couldn't possibly be an exit scam because bagholders still have 40% of the worthless token issue. I suppose that makes sense to somebody.
Brings to mind the old poker quote

"If you can't see who the sucker is, then it's you."


66  Economy / Scam Accusations / Re: Maya Preferred Going On Live AMA Drop Your Questions on: February 26, 2020, 10:48:12 AM

Just had a monthly look in at this, prompted by an e-mail sent by a kind reader which explains the broken link to Blonde 2.0's PR company, announced with a great fanfare and promoted for months on the Maya TG
Quote from: TechBullion press release
The collaboration between UK Financial LTD and Blonde 2.0 aims to help elevate the company’s status and credibility in the blockchain market.
Quote from: Blonde CEO
We are thrilled to be adding another huge player in the crypto space to our roster of clients,
 



The whole PRnewswire onslaught has also ceased. Budgetary considerations?

Token prices are dead, MAPR223 occasionally trading a few sats worth around $20.
TG is a wasteland of soonsoonsoon. Whoever controls the Onewdmoney account has put this on loop



Apparently, it's all our fault, but what do we know? Anyway, we're being "handled".....





 
67  Other / Meta / Re: The Objective Standards Guild - Testimonium Libertatem Iustitia on: February 25, 2020, 11:50:18 PM
Put me on your fucking blacklist, accuse me of shit that I don't do: standard right wing American control bullshit masquerading as being "in the public interest".
Politics now? Are you another person with hidden motives using forum issues as a method to attack me for my political opinions

Yes, I thought that reference would push your Agenda Button.
Maybe I'm a commie?

"Are you, or have you ever been, a member of Default Trust?"



Quote from: TECSHARE
Scambusters are the A.I.D.S. of the Bitcointalk world.
Classy.

It really should be bigger, and in a suitable font. Look cool on your bowling shirt.


To prospective members of the anti-gang gang, this is what your anti-leader leader decrees.
Are you cool with that?


68  Economy / Trading Discussion / Re: A professional crypto-currency trader PROVIDING FREE bitcoin/alt SIGNALS on: February 25, 2020, 10:24:26 PM
I posted a short Signal on bitcoin here in the comment section in the last few hours but it got deleted by the admin , does any one know whats the reason?

]As you can see on my profile ,MY Bitcointalk account was created on 2016, but i have never posted because i used to only learn and read posts/threads inorder to develop myself.

You never got round to reading the rules about consecutive posting, is my guess.
Do you have no records of your, presumably successful, four years of prior trading that you could share with us?


69  Other / Meta / Re: The Objective Standards Guild - Testimonium Libertatem Iustitia on: February 25, 2020, 05:46:44 PM

Nigeria has a lot of scammers right? If I nuked Nigeria I would objectively be "fighting scammers" now wouldn't I?
Juvenile strawman rhetoric.
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"Fighting scammers" is easy if you have little to no concern about innocents.
That's precisely the reason for doing it, "a concern for innocents".
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Yes yes, I am sure your evidence free suspicion is above reproach 
What "evidence free" suspicion?
Red trust should be reference linked to the reasoning behind it.
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and you never ever catch innocent people up in your OCD dragnet
More flowery strawman bullshit from the king of OCD.
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... not that anyone is watching the watchers.
The whole forum watches.
Anyone who wants to object to my posts or my feedback is more than welcome to dispute them, show me where I'm wrong.
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tecshare's reasoning for exclusion of forum member tmfp?
I have no interst in being a poster child in this nonsense, but it's simple: retaliation for my exclusion of him. He now wants his anti gang gang to copy it.
Pick thru his tedious narrative above for his changing "reasons" for it.

Put me on your fucking blacklist, accuse me of shit that I don't do: standard right wing American control bullshit masquerading as being "in the public interest".



70  Economy / Trading Discussion / Re: A professional crypto-currency trader PROVIDING FREE bitcoin/alt SIGNALS on: February 25, 2020, 04:32:09 PM

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If anyone of you...need a manager for your portfolio ( more than  1 BTC ) i can help on that.

I'm sure you can.  Roll Eyes
71  Other / Beginners & Help / Re: A simple way to protect yourself from Discord Crypto SCAMS! on: February 25, 2020, 12:42:08 AM
(snip)

Wouldn't it be the easiest way to avoid Discord Crypto scams, not to use Discord at all? In my opinion Discord has no benefits when it comes to security or privacy compared to Telegram. I would stay away from Discord and communicate via Telegram.

Maybe, just maybe, you should question the whole basis of this need to "communicate" about anything and everything.
Serious investors who understand their subject don't use social media, they don't need to.
The whole space is full of scammers and liars, of misdirection, FUD and shills. The noise is deafening.
Do an experiment (if you are serious about understanding crypto in any depth): analyse exactly what you get of value during the course of say a week from these interactions.
Then spend a week without interacting in any way: instead, research in depth from credible sources, learn historically valid methods of analysis. Go for a walk.
See the difference.

Remember the old saying "If you're at a poker table and you don't see who the sucker is, then it's you.”


72  Economy / Economics / Re: Any Forex Brokers That Accept Crypto? on: February 24, 2020, 07:08:50 PM
Looks and sounds to iffy for me.. I need something a lot simpler without all the other "stuff" that goes along with it.

The Forex world is littered with scams, just like crypto.
None of these suggestions fit your need for no bank account involvment.
*unwatch*
73  Other / Meta / Re: List of advertising shills. Mods please review and ban as appropriate. on: February 24, 2020, 02:50:02 PM
That account could be part of a bigger shill or affiliate from publish0x unraveled by @20kevin20 here.
One group will spam the community with their affiliate links and then the other one, with links to publish0x articles only.

Thanks for that link, I missed that thread.
If you look at pulbish0x's business model then the bigger situation becomes clear. This is purely a game of Whack-A-Mole.
The only way to deal with this effectively is to convince Theymos that it's in the forum's best interest to bar any and all links to publish0x.
That'll be a hard sell....


Even if an account is banned, they can still log in, and so the "Last active" time on their profile will still update. They just won't be able to post, PM, send merit, etc.

I didn't know that, thanks.
fourthfunction has just now started posting publish0x linked threads again, so it's not banned. I'm reporting them. Boring.




74  Other / Meta / Re: List of advertising shills. Mods please review and ban as appropriate. on: February 24, 2020, 01:55:27 AM
The fourthfunction account has posted 288 times in the ~8 weeks it's been in existence.

snip

I shall see if it produces its customary ~10 posts later today.

The shitposting continues - I have also now reported the account, suggest others do the same.

It hasn't posted since my report.
Logged in tonight without posting (so isn't banned), has rarely missed a day up till now. Strange.

75  Other / Meta / Re: The Objective Standards Guild - Testimonium Libertatem Iustitia on: February 24, 2020, 01:46:45 AM

I didn't say you shouldn't respond.
And I didn't say that you did.
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The problem is the conflict in logic demonstrated in your response.
I see no conflict in my logic. Do you see the conflict in yours?
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You don't need to be conspiring to be part of an aimless mob, it is human nature to just mindlessly follow the group.
Much patronising wow. Literally everyone I know irl would piss themselves laughing at that as a description of me.
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"You were told" huh? By who I wonder?
Oh please.
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Please, do quote where I accused you of "violating existing forum trust protocol".
Your OP litany of rhetoric
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harassment, threats, and intimidation.....stifle criticism, competition....culture of rampant and systematic abuse...a culture of nepotism
followed by your "Suggested Exclusion" blacklist, paints those on that list -including me- as conspirators in those actvities, all of which are antithetical to the existing protocol regarding use of the trust system.
I don't do any of that shit.
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You were saying something about projection?
Nope, haven't used the word.
"Retaliation" I've used, in reference to your reaction to my exclusion of you. But yeah, I'll use it if you like.
In running your own anti-gang gang (interesting concept), you'll be able to project all sorts of solutions to your personal issues.



76  Other / Meta / Re: The Objective Standards Guild - Testimonium Libertatem Iustitia on: February 23, 2020, 10:44:21 PM
Quote from: tmfp
Quote from: TECHSHARE
I excluded you because you excluded me for defending myself against false accusations.
You have absolutely no basis for the belief that that was my motivation for excluding you from my trust list. Pure assumption.
It wasn't.
(I actually know my motivation for my actions).
Quote from: TECHSHARE
you are more worried about silencing people with legitimate grievances to avoid conflict than what is right.
A completely baseless assumption, with no supporting evidence, to justify a trust or exclusion negative action: exactly what you criticize others for doing.
Quote from: TECHSHARE
Yes, I am sure it was just a total coincidence you excluded me and Vod at the same time drawing a false equivalence between him making baseless accusations against me and me defending myself against him.

Good that you're sure of that.
That makes your "false equivalence" point a redundant fantasy, along with your previous assumptions.

Quote from: TECHSHARE
So am I free to choose my exclusions as I please or not? It seems you like having this right for yourself, and of course no explanation is needed. Yet here you are condemning me for exercising the rights I have within the system and demanding explanations.
Very convenient you are trying to blur the line between exclusions and abusive negative ratings so you can demand an explanation and evidence for yourself for not a rating but an exclusion.

I haven't demanded, condemned or blurred anything here. You do entirely what you please, but if that includes projecting your agenda onto me, then I will respond. 
I posted here because I was told you have put me on some list, purportedly for violating existing forum trust protocol, an accusation that I completely reject.
You also imply that I am part of some sort of conspiring, power tripping forum gang.
Absolutely fuck off with that one too.

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This is exactly the kind of intellectual dishonesty that lead me to exclude you and put you on that list.
This made me LOL.
Intellectual dishonesty....talk about pot and kettle.


77  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Why we have slow steps about convincing governments to accept bitcoin? on: February 23, 2020, 08:08:25 PM
3) When Binance implodes, the fallout will be immense.

snip

so maybe the fallout from something like that wouldn't be so bad. you might be referring to insolvency or exit scamming though, which is obviously different.

I see what I perceive as red flags forming around Binance's ecosystem but, fear not, no Scam Accusation on the way just yet.
It has something of Enron about it.

78  Other / Meta / Re: List of advertising shills. Mods please review and ban as appropriate. on: February 23, 2020, 03:28:40 PM
only posts that are reported are deleted, which leads us to the conclusion that each post should be reported individually, of course if we want all to be deleted. Depending on who is taking the action (not everyone has the same viewpoint), such users are first alerted by a private message, then with temporarily ban.

No, I have reported a single post before and included information in the report that has led to multiple other posts being deleted.
I can't see the logic in deleting a single post when the whole (stated) point of the report is about chronic abuse.
Surely if that one post is unacceptable then so are the identical 287?
And a 288 count shit posting account should be nuked on that basis.

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I see that last posts from fourthfunction is dated to 22 December 2019, which means that he didn't get a strong enough message to stop. This is probably one of those who think: "You can't delete as much as I can post".

You're reading the post history backwards. His last posts were yesterday: the reported one deleted, seven similar ones remain.




79  Other / Meta / Re: List of advertising shills. Mods please review and ban as appropriate. on: February 23, 2020, 12:56:29 PM

The fourthfunction account has posted 288 times in the ~8 weeks it's been in existence.

All 288 posts are links to publish0x articles.

I have reported the account to moderators with this note
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This account has posted 288 times. Every post is the same: the briefest of intros, followed by a link to media site publish0x. This is surely the definition of low quality posting and by inference paid-to-post. I request that a ban, in the interest of the forum's posting integrity, be imposed.
I'll check intermittently to see if any action is taken and post here.

Checking Modlog, the individual reported post has been deleted. No other action appears to have been taken.

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Delete reply: Re: Presenting Algorand: The Blockchain for Business in topic #5060102 by member #2734070

I shall see if it produces its customary ~10 posts later today.

 
80  Other / Meta / Re: The Objective Standards Guild - Testimonium Libertatem Iustitia on: February 23, 2020, 12:29:10 PM

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He has clearly explained that he has attempted to locate members with minimal frivolous tagging.

I've never left a "frivolous" tag, but I appear to have ended up on his "Guild" hit list, presumably as a member of some conspiracy or other.
The fact that I decided (all on my own) to ~ him from my trust list and he immediately retaliated is obviously purely coincidence.

Like other posters here, I don't accept the pulled-out-of-someone's-ass assertion that trust tagging has a net negative effect on the forum, so yet another gang/conspiracy/whatever to include me in.
I leave feedback based on the mainly scam investigation stuff I post for one reason only: to help awareness levels among newbies.
I would like to stay on DT so that they see that, otherwise IDGAF.

No coincidence. I excluded you because you excluded me for defending myself against false accusations. Much like with Direwolfm14, it demonstrates to me you are more worried about silencing people with legitimate grievances to avoid conflict than what is right. That is why I excluded you, and that is why I put you on that list.

Quote from: TECHSHARE
I excluded you because you excluded me for defending myself against false accusations.

You have absolutely no basis for the belief that that was my motivation for excluding you from my trust list. Pure assumption.
It wasn't.
(I actually know my motivation for my actions).

Quote from: TECHSHARE
you are more worried about silencing people with legitimate grievances to avoid conflict than what is right.

A completely baseless assumption, with no supporting evidence, to justify a trust or exclusion negative action: exactly what you criticize others for doing.



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