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321  Bitcoin / Group buys / Re: CLOSED] ASICMiner Tube Group Buy #2 on: September 17, 2014, 11:52:32 PM
Still have not heard anything at all.  Starting to get worried.  Maybe he is on vacation?

Sent E-mail to canary.btc@gmail.com twice.

Sent E-mail to help@bitquan.com.

Anybody got any spare chips?  Looks like I am going to have to fix this myself.

In a PM he told me he is unavailable until late September.
322  Bitcoin / Pools / Re: [9000 TH] Slush's Pool (mining.bitcoin.cz); TX FEES + VarDiff on: September 17, 2014, 01:13:23 AM
Jeez.  If ur paying anything over like 10-12cent kW/h.  U mine as well shutdown ur miners.   No profit to be made there. Or move them to where it free.   But that's just me.

I'm still profitable at current BTC/USD exchange rate. Not shutting them down.


would you still be profitable if tomorrow the BTC/USD rate dropped to $100 ? like it was only a year ago.

$100? no of course not. Would anyone? I guess those getting "free electricity" would be OK though...
323  Bitcoin / Pools / Re: [ANN] solo.ckpool.org 0.5% fee anonymous solo bitcoin mining for everyone on: September 16, 2014, 11:49:00 PM
So when I rotate I lose a little bit of work. Is it dependant on various factors or a set number of shares/percentage, so to speak? I haven't seen rejects or stales when switching thus far.

EDIT: also hashrate doesn't seem to dip when switching, though worker difficulty goes down then back up.
It's only a very small amount lost (I wrote the failover strategies to be as seamless as possible), and happens with every switch. If you're not switching frequently like every minute you almost certainly won't notice a thing so it is the best option.

Alright that makes sense. I'll be rolling the dice then for 1 hour out of every 20 Smiley
324  Bitcoin / Pools / Re: [9000 TH] Slush's Pool (mining.bitcoin.cz); TX FEES + VarDiff on: September 16, 2014, 11:46:41 PM
Jeez.  If ur paying anything over like 10-12cent kW/h.  U mine as well shutdown ur miners.   No profit to be made there. Or move them to where it free.   But that's just me.

I'm still profitable at current BTC/USD exchange rate. Not shutting them down.
325  Bitcoin / Pools / Re: [ANN] solo.ckpool.org 0.5% fee anonymous solo bitcoin mining for everyone on: September 16, 2014, 11:39:08 PM
Interesting. Yeah the way I have it set currently is to switch pools every hour in a rotate fashion, with 19 identical pool entries and one pool entry for ckpool. That should devote 1/20 of my mining time (5%) to ckpool. My other pool is PPS, so i'm not concerned with that.

Are you basically saying that even though I'm not actively mining on a pool, it can send a restart work and cause a restart for the pool I actually am actively mining on?
Rotate is different again. Each failover mechanism has its positives and negatives. In rotate mode you'll lose a small amount of work every time you switch which is different to the problem in load-balance mode where you are connected to multiple pools at the same time - that's what I'm describing above.

Gotcha. Yeah load-balance is a no-go with a proxy device (running 2 AM tubes through BFGMiner as a proxy so I can have failover and stats I can easily digest).

So when I rotate I lose a little bit of work. Is it dependant on various factors or a set number of shares/percentage, so to speak? I haven't seen rejects or stales when switching thus far.

EDIT: also hashrate doesn't seem to dip when switching, though worker difficulty goes down then back up.
326  Bitcoin / Pools / Re: [ANN] solo.ckpool.org 0.5% fee anonymous solo bitcoin mining for everyone on: September 16, 2014, 11:30:58 PM
It makes no difference overall. However there is benefit to one device running full time on solo pool as the mining works better when it's not flicking from one pool to another repeatedly.

you mean in terms of a "ramp up" period so to speak?
Mainly the issue is that pools have slightly different times they notify you of the block change and during that period you are working on data from the old and the new block. Then what happens is both pools tell you to restart your work and every time you do that you throw out work and have to wait for the device to start doing meaningful work again. Strictly speaking only the work from the new block really matters, but the main issue is that you are sending your devices multiple restart messages and they usually work best with as few restarts as possible. There are also some newer devices (like ava2/3) that actually can only work on one pool at a time due to their design.

Interesting. Yeah the way I have it set currently is to switch pools every hour in a rotate fashion, with 19 identical pool entries and one pool entry for ckpool. That should devote 1/20 of my mining time (5%) to ckpool. My other pool is PPS, so i'm not concerned with that.

Are you basically saying that even though I'm not actively mining on a pool, it can send a restart work and cause a restart for the pool I actually am actively mining on?
327  Bitcoin / Pools / Re: [ANN] solo.ckpool.org 0.5% fee anonymous solo bitcoin mining for everyone on: September 16, 2014, 11:11:42 PM
question/scenario:

Lets say I have 8 equal devices.

If my goal is to use 1/8 of my work as a "lottery entry" in trying to find a block solo mining, is there a difference between the following 2 scenarios?

scenario 1) running 1 of these devices on solo pool full time and the other 7 on a regular pool full time

scenario 2) running all 8 of these devices for 1/8 time on solo pool and 7/8 time on a regular pool

or put another way, is there any difference between a low hashrate over a longer amount of time or a proportionally higher hashrate over a proportionally shorter amount of time when solo mining?
It makes no difference overall. However there is benefit to one device running full time on solo pool as the mining works better when it's not flicking from one pool to another repeatedly.

you mean in terms of a "ramp up" period so to speak?
328  Bitcoin / Pools / Re: [ANN] solo.ckpool.org 0.5% fee anonymous solo bitcoin mining for everyone on: September 16, 2014, 11:08:55 PM
I just find this tread.
Great project .
It is better than casino for a bit coiner with small hash rate;)
Congratz
I will take the gamble with 1+ TH
happy solo mining all

you must have cheap electricity Smiley my 1.6TH costs about $6 a day, but I can make .022 BTC/day elsewhere, consistently.
329  Bitcoin / Mining software (miners) / Re: BFGMiner 4.8.0: GBT+Stratum, RPC, Mac/Linux/Win64, CoinTerra, Tube/T1, Benchmark on: September 16, 2014, 09:06:12 PM
But yeah will bfgminer freak out if i have 19 identical pool entries?
It shouldn't...

okay then i'll go that route for now to get my automatic lottery entries up and running.
330  Bitcoin / Mining software (miners) / Re: BFGMiner 4.8.0: GBT+Stratum, RPC, Mac/Linux/Win64, CoinTerra, Tube/T1, Benchmark on: September 16, 2014, 09:01:39 PM
re: using a pool for solo mining... it just saves the hassle of setting up all that is required for solo mining on my end.
All you have to do is run a bitcoind. Not much of a hassle. :|

Also I posted this elsewhere, but I'm still trying to determine theorhetically if say 1/8 of my hash power for 24 hrs is better or worse than 8/8 of my hash power for 3 hrs, in terms of solo mining, everything else being held equal.
Theoretically, it's all the same... only difference is variance.

Side note: I've also been working on a miner-oriented Bitcoin Core based on 0.9.x that I hope to release after 0.9.3 is out. In the meantime, the current build is at http://luke.dashjr.org/programs/bitcoin/files/bitcoind/luke-jr/0.9.x/0.9.3rc2.ljr20140913/

I know but bitcoind will take more space than I'd like to devote to it on my proxy-dedicated old eeepc 701, although I do have an external HD sitting around... maybe down the line sometime.

But yeah will bfgminer freak out if i have 19 identical pool entries?
331  Bitcoin / Mining software (miners) / Re: BFGMiner 4.8.0: GBT+Stratum, RPC, Mac/Linux/Win64, CoinTerra, Tube/T1, Benchmark on: September 16, 2014, 08:50:03 PM
How long are you waiting to see the load balance results?

It wont mine to both pools at the same time, it will switch between the two for an equal amount in a 24 hour period.

So it will give 100% hashrate to pool A for up to 12 hours, then 100% to pool B for the other 12 hours.
It works pretty much immediately for most devices.
"2D work" devices (Stratum proxy and Avalon2/3) do not support load balancing at this time.

ah okay I thought it somehow divided up the work.

Also, yes this is with stratum proxy so I guess load-balancing is completely out the window then right?

I guess in lieu of that, is there a command line I can use with cron to switch pools at certain times of the day? I assume it would be some command line rpc interface... just not familiar enough with that or where to start.
There's essentially no way to do 2D work stuff with load balancing, as the devices create their own work.
Have you tried something like --rotate? You will probably need to ensure the pools change jobs at least as often as you switch between the pools...


Yeah what I was hoping to achieve was sending something like 95% of my work to my regular pool and 5% of my work to ck's solo mining "pool"... sort of playing the lottery with 5% of my hash power. I guess I could rotate at some interval with 20 pool entries, one of which was the solo pool and the other 19 are my regular pool? Is something like that even allowed, config wise? (i.e., can I have multiple pool entries with exactly the same url, user, password?)

Other than that, I was thinking a cron job to switch pools for 5% of the day would work.

This all hinges on the idea that sending work to a solo mining effort for a short period of time even makes sense.
Everything there makes sense, except using a centralised pool for solo mining.

I haven't thought it through yet, but maybe I could have quotas act as multipliers in rotate mode... so quota 2 with rotate of 5 minutes results in a 10 minute rotation time for that pool. Thoughts?

That'd make sense. If you commit some changes towards that sort of setup, I can pull some code from git, compile, and test.

re: using a pool for solo mining... it just saves the hassle of setting up all that is required for solo mining on my end. Also, it's probably hosted on a faster connection etc etc etc.

Also I posted this elsewhere, but I'm still trying to determine theorhetically if say 1/8 of my hash power for 24 hrs is better or worse than 8/8 of my hash power for 3 hrs, in terms of solo mining, everything else being held equal.
332  Bitcoin / Pools / Re: [ANN] solo.ckpool.org 0.5% fee anonymous solo bitcoin mining for everyone on: September 16, 2014, 08:30:21 PM
question/scenario:

Lets say I have 8 equal devices.

If my goal is to use 1/8 of my work as a "lottery entry" in trying to find a block solo mining, is there a difference between the following 2 scenarios?

scenario 1) running 1 of these devices on solo pool full time and the other 7 on a regular pool full time

scenario 2) running all 8 of these devices for 1/8 time on solo pool and 7/8 time on a regular pool

or put another way, is there any difference between a low hashrate over a longer amount of time or a proportionally higher hashrate over a proportionally shorter amount of time when solo mining?
333  Bitcoin / Mining software (miners) / Re: BFGMiner 4.8.0: GBT+Stratum, RPC, Mac/Linux/Win64, CoinTerra, Tube/T1, Benchmark on: September 16, 2014, 08:24:08 PM
How long are you waiting to see the load balance results?

It wont mine to both pools at the same time, it will switch between the two for an equal amount in a 24 hour period.

So it will give 100% hashrate to pool A for up to 12 hours, then 100% to pool B for the other 12 hours.
It works pretty much immediately for most devices.
"2D work" devices (Stratum proxy and Avalon2/3) do not support load balancing at this time.

ah okay I thought it somehow divided up the work.

Also, yes this is with stratum proxy so I guess load-balancing is completely out the window then right?

I guess in lieu of that, is there a command line I can use with cron to switch pools at certain times of the day? I assume it would be some command line rpc interface... just not familiar enough with that or where to start.
There's essentially no way to do 2D work stuff with load balancing, as the devices create their own work.
Have you tried something like --rotate? You will probably need to ensure the pools change jobs at least as often as you switch between the pools...


Yeah what I was hoping to achieve was sending something like 95% of my work to my regular pool and 5% of my work to ck's solo mining "pool"... sort of playing the lottery with 5% of my hash power. I guess I could rotate at some interval with 20 pool entries, one of which was the solo pool and the other 19 are my regular pool? Is something like that even allowed, config wise? (i.e., can I have multiple pool entries with exactly the same url, user, password?)

Other than that, I was thinking a cron job to switch pools for 5% of the day would work.

This all hinges on the idea that sending work to a solo mining effort for a short period of time even makes sense.
334  Bitcoin / Mining software (miners) / Re: BFGMiner 4.8.0: GBT+Stratum, RPC, Mac/Linux/Win64, CoinTerra, Tube/T1, Benchmark on: September 16, 2014, 08:13:57 PM
How long are you waiting to see the load balance results?

It wont mine to both pools at the same time, it will switch between the two for an equal amount in a 24 hour period.

So it will give 100% hashrate to pool A for up to 12 hours, then 100% to pool B for the other 12 hours.
It works pretty much immediately for most devices.
"2D work" devices (Stratum proxy and Avalon2/3) do not support load balancing at this time.

ah okay I thought it somehow divided up the work.

Also, yes this is with stratum proxy so I guess load-balancing is completely out the window then right?

I guess in lieu of that, is there a command line I can use with cron to switch pools at certain times of the day? I assume it would be some command line rpc interface... just not familiar enough with that or where to start.
335  Bitcoin / Mining software (miners) / Re: BFGMiner 4.8.0: GBT+Stratum, RPC, Mac/Linux/Win64, CoinTerra, Tube/T1, Benchmark on: September 16, 2014, 05:31:33 PM
Need some help with load-balace setup.

I have 4 pools in my config file. I have 2 of them set to quota of zero and the other two are each set at quota of 50.

All 4 pools are enabled.

My management strategy is set to load-balance.

Expected result: each of the two "quota-50" pools gets half my hashrate unless both are dead in which case we fall back into priortiy mode with failover

Actual result: whatever pool has a higher priority set gets all the hashrate

NOTE: I simplified to a 2 pool setup each with a quota of 50  and I get the same actual result.

Am I thinking about this wrong? Is there a setting I missed? or is load-balance broken?

EDIT: A little more details here... I'm seeing work slowly get queued for whatever pool is lower priority, but no shares are ever submitted. Not sure if that's useful information.
336  Bitcoin / Pools / Re: [5000 TH] Slush's Pool (mining.bitcoin.cz); TX FEES + VarDiff on: September 16, 2014, 01:43:36 AM
Yea :p.   I recently bought 2 s1s.   Been brining in a sweet profit bought 2 for $340 CAD.     BOUGHT another 9 s1s with 7 PSUs. 3 miners for 340 cad the rest of the miner are basically on loan.    But will give me about 2.4Th/s.

I pay about .08ckw/h but run em on free electrcitiy as well.


But iv thought about just buying them make money faster




upgrade those to S1 to S3  that's like 3.5 th with a power draw around 3740 watts or so my math might be wrong on  the watts but its close i think the 278 $ or so  per kit is well worth it or use bit coins. Smiley .  

Then wait for the S4 next years which more then likely we won't see till next year or in Dec if then . o yea I'm gonna get a L1 as well . I don't just farm one type of coin . imo  if you do you won't get any were .
 and my S3 I'l have  should hold me till the S4 comes out, i did think about the spondoolies sp20 home miner but if i wait till the S4 come out I'm sure they will use less power  be faster then the spondoolies sp20 home and cost way less.

also I'm glad it is harder now we get to see the true farmers etc its no longer a easy buck, it should have been that way all long, it more worth it now then it ever was . and at some Point soon hardware will slow down it all ways does.  but that's my 2 cs worth which means jack but how i see it .


If i did my math right i have one S3 on order and 4 S1 ones atm  I'll  be at like 2.2 th at normal clocks once i upgrade, if i decide to go out and  buy water cooling ( and the water cooling is not that bad as some say if you know how to i build it  i have built a few for my  videos cards and PC Smiley . for those old S1 boards that another 800 GH added back  which i know I  won't do, may even try to sell off the old S1 boards super cheap .


In Maryland atm we only pay 0.09 cents per kw/h which won't be going up for at least two more years were locked in to  that plan and may get  solar panels on top of that .  most of us in Maryland don't pay any more then 10 cents per Kw/h up to around 13 C.  some even pay less in my area. is not just  Washington state etc. from what Ive seen most of the US has really cheap Power compared to over seas .

0.09/kwh in Maryland? Are you not including taxes and fees and transmission, etc? After all that I don't think I can get lower than .1338/kwh or so...
337  Bitcoin / Pools / Re: mining.BitcoinAffiliatenetwork.com - we're giving away 1 Antminer S3 every day! on: September 12, 2014, 11:23:52 PM
Anyway, back on point and I am ending this experiment tonight... not worth diverting hashrate from BAN.

Alloscomp Estimate for 440GH/s (BAN and Eclipse) at current difficulty of 27428630902.3: 0.00806744BTC
Alloscomp Estimate for 125 GH/s (Discus Fish) at current difficulty of 27428630902.3: 0.00229189BTC

BAN: 0.00854369BTC - That's 105.9% of the estimate for the hashrate of an Antminer S3. Not the 12.5% bonus expected but when taken together with the 119.01% gotten yesterday it averages to... 112.5% so the 12.5% bonus is honored when averaging both out. Not bad.

Eclipse: 0.00736479BTC - That's 91.29% of the estimate. Ouch, variance really hit me here I guess. Could be the batch 5 S3 doesn't perform as well as the batch 1 but that's a big difference, even taking the fees into account.

Discus Fish: 0.00221312BTC - That's 96.56% of the estimate. Before BAN I really liked Discus Fish until I pointed my first S3 at it and got an insane amount of rejects.

I did a similar, but much less rigorous test between just BAN and eclipse. Eclipse PPS payouts were around 15% less than BAN. Sticking with ban for the forseeable future, which is probably until the bonus runs out.
338  Bitcoin / Hardware / Re: [Guide] Dogie's Comprehensive ASICMiner Tube Setup [HD] on: September 12, 2014, 02:47:29 AM
assuming 3 tubes can be plugged into one controller......does each tube need a individual IP, or just one for the controller? 

One for the controller
339  Bitcoin / Group buys / Re: [OPEN] ASICMiner Tube Group Buy #2 on: September 11, 2014, 01:01:46 AM
I have a handful units remaining.  Selling at .8 btc each
Sorry but does the .8 include the rpi?
Includes the Ethernet controller.
Sry to bother you as my tag suggests I am a newbie I remember seeing that you need an rpi to run these can those be purchased from you as well or do I need to buy from FC thru phasebird I currently run a few S3's and am only familiar with cgminer and ssh-ing thru putty with there interface. Shocked
They come with an Ethernet controller that runs it.  You can run an instance of miner anywhere you want if you wish to point your tube at it. PC/Pi, whatever...

To expand on that, they will run without a raspberry pi, but you'll have some limitations:

1) it won't work with some pools

2) there is no failover in case your pool goes down

For more info, see my thread or dogie's thread elsewhere in this forum.

Also, you don't necessarily need a raspberry pi... Just something that can run bfgminer. An old router may even do the trick if it can run openwrt. Personally, I breathed new life into my old eeepc 701 to take up the job.
340  Bitcoin / Mining software (miners) / Re: BFGMiner 4.8.0: GBT+Stratum, RPC, Mac/Linux/Win64, CoinTerra, Tube/T1, Benchmark on: September 11, 2014, 12:55:56 AM
Hello Everyone,

I have a problem with BFGminer 4.8.0



I'm using nicehash pool which is curently working, despite the message about the dead pool it is mining as i can see on the web page, problem is that if i put any other pool as backup it automatically uses it There is also a disturping message about coibasecheck... can anyone help?

Did you use #xnsub?
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