Why complicate things with phones and apps? Just generate lists of single-use keypairs and let people print them out or store them in an encrypted container, whatever they want.

Hey, I don't even know if you have such a thing as "consciousness".
Anyway, I do believe imperi was being facetious.

I don't mind moderation, when done in, well, moderation. I do mind when I cant judge whether the mods are doing their jobs well or not. I can't judge for myself if I agree a thread was out of line if it's been deleted.

Mods, if you feel you need to shut a thread down, why not just lock it? Some other forums feature a "trash bin" section where "deleted" threads go, still available to read, but not cluttering the main forums. Maybe this would be something to look into here?

Can anyone give a good reason why deleting a thread would be preferable to just locking it, absent legal reasons and other force majeure?

Nothing, withdrew the 30-something BTC I had there when the big trade went down.

Doesn't seem to be much info forthcoming apart from "yes it was deleted" and as far as I can tell, no-one gives a shit. Not sure what to do. This whole forum is way too hopped up, can't seem to get a single thread going without it being derailed by petty bickering (You've done more than your share to keep this going, Synaptic.)

Maybe I'll try to write up a concise, polite, no-bullshit explanation of why I don't think deletions are acceptable and post a poll about it. Don't know if anyone really reads Meta, though, and I think any such thread will descend into a flamefest about two posts into it. We'll see.

I still don't see the need to delete a thread.

For passwords I need to remember on a daily basis, I will usually generate passes I can remember phonetically. One way I tend to do this is to look around wherever I am when I'm making the password, see what words come up in my mind at the moment, apply some free association until I come up with something you won't find in any dictionary, nor could even associate with the words I used. Then add capitalizations and special characters, typing out the password to see what kind of combination seems haptically natural to me.

So for example I'm looking at a plastic model of a space invader now. Invader > Vader >walsdorf>wassroed>W8SsR?3D

After a while of using this pass, I wouldn't need to remember the sequence I used to "derive" it, but before I get that accustomed to it, it can be useful to have a kind of memory trace I can refer to if I forget what it was.

For more important things I'll use longer passwords stored in a text file in an encrypted container secured with a long passphrase.

Which timezone's daylight hours do you think trading should be tied to?

I think it's a sensible stance. Anything a lawyer can say about the legality of alternate currencies is a guess until cases start to go through the courts.

I don't think Mt Gox stored wallet addresses anyway as you suggest. At least I had to input an address every time I withdrew BTC from there.

Using a closed-source client is equivalent to running executables attached to spam. If you do it, you're asking to get robbed.

I'm pretty sure there will be so much malware targeting Bitcoin wallets that people will learn to be very wary of what they install on the computers they use for Bitcoin activities.

Well... actually I think we'll see centralized banks taking the burden of security off the shoulders of mainstream users, but the point is, the mental connection between running "nice programs" and having your coins stolen will be pretty strong by then. It's already forming.

I don't agree with the deletion at all. Of course, I don't know what was in the thread beyond the first couple of pages, as I didn't stick around to read it. Neither can I now know. If a thread needs shutting down, lock it. Deletion is extreme.

I'm honestly not sure how I feel about using this forum at the moment.

Would that have worked? How is the withdrawal limit calculated - spot price or some weighted average? It's also possible this was all done to stress the market, for what purposes I'd rather not guess at. Or maybe the perpetrator(s) really were pretty stupid. Not enough info at this point to conclude much.

http://forum.bitcoin.org/index.php?topic=19959.0

Any comments from mods on why the thread was deleted? Note I didn't read much of it, and the deletion happened after I'd gone to sleep. Still, I find the accusations troubling.

No mod input yet. I'd wait a while to see if that's forthcoming, then consider raising more of a fuss.

Synaptic, you're rude as hell and generally obnoxious. About par for the course for here.

Mods, start explaining about the deletion. Suppressing discussion like that looks extremely bad, especially at a time like this.

Always use your spam mail account (you have one, right?) for, well, pretty much everything except personal e-mail. I feel sorry for those who had e-mail accounts they actually use revealed this way.

I second the call for two-factor authentication, though I'd prefer a list of numbers as banking sites use. Google's system uses SMS, as far as I know, and I'm not giving them my number. So, let the user print a list of one-time passcodes, a random one of which will be asked for when logging in, and when only 10 or so unused codes remain, tell the user to print a new set.

Expect what to happen?

Certainly not all from everyone. None of mine were stolen.