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601  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Mining (Altcoins) / Re: An Excellent Way to Manage Heat From Mining in a Home or Warehouse on: March 01, 2018, 10:22:49 PM
How do you like the Simpli-safe system?  My house is already wired with an alarm service, but i'm looking for something to monitor the windows I had to use has intake/exhaust ventilation.

I'm loving it!!!

Easy to set up.  Uses batteries [therefore wireless].

The base lets you know when the batteries are getting low.

The base uses cellular to communicate with simplisafe if you have them monitor it.

You'll love it if you get it.
602  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Mining (Altcoins) / Re: An Excellent Way to Manage Heat From Mining in a Home or Warehouse on: March 01, 2018, 10:11:07 PM
Lovely work I must say - I'm impressed (and a bit jealous!).

Thank you!

Much appreciated.

I'll be very happy when it's completed.  I'm currently involved with business taxes due on March 15th.
603  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Mining (Altcoins) / Re: An Excellent Way to Manage Heat From Mining in a Home or Warehouse on: February 28, 2018, 10:42:46 PM
Oh...myyy...goddddd.... You have a lot of gpu’s.
Insane. So jealous Smiley

Nice to see father and son on mining adventure Smiley

It's been a learning experience for sure with mining.  I'm still learning...

Yes, I'm happy my dad is FINALLY getting into mining.  I've been trying to coach him into mining in a nice way for the past 3 years.  He finally asked me about mining approximately 30 days ago.  So, we kind of dove into it shortly after that talk.

I suppose I have a lot of GPU's for a "home miner" with only 225 Amps service.  I hope to either upgrade my power at the house OR lease a small warehouse for cheap near my house by this time next year.  Which means, I plan on expanding my mining even more; as profits allow.

It's important for ANYONE who mines to also become a fairly decent trader in order to optimize profits from mining as much as possible.

My trading view profile if you wish to follow:  https://www.tradingview.com/u/ProwdClown/

I try to make my publications a learning experience as well when I post.  For example, here's a chart I created when explaining "EVENTS & PHASES" in Wyckoff's Accumulation Schematic:

604  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Mining (Altcoins) / Re: An Excellent Way to Manage Heat From Mining in a Home or Warehouse on: February 28, 2018, 09:40:07 PM
wow how many gpus have you installed?

At my place I have the following:

12 x EVGA NVIDIA 1070 Ti FTW2
52 x EVGA NVIDIA 1080 Ti FTW3
12 x XFX R9 390
36 x Sapphire R9 Fury
24 x R9 380
89 x RX 480
7 x RX 580
TOTAL OF 232 x GPU's at my place.

I gave my dad the following OLD rigs:

48 x R9 380's
7 x Bitmain S7's

He will also be purchasing some NVIDIA's very soon.  I plan on giving him my remaining R9 380's as I replace them with NVIDIA cards.

We will not get all of his cards going until after we both have our business taxes done.  He's NEW to this.
605  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Mining (Altcoins) / Re: An Excellent Way to Manage Heat From Mining in a Home or Warehouse on: February 28, 2018, 07:51:38 PM
Great topic and photos. With all these fans exhausting air, do you not worry about security? I.e not only someone trying to break in to steal your GPUs, but people breaking in thinking its something else (Cannabis farm etc.) ?

ROFL...

The only fan seen at my place is an exhaust.  However, it's in the back of the house facing the back yard which is also fenced in with a 6 feet high privacy fence.  The other fan for intake is underneath the deck and NOT seen while also being in the back yard.  If ANYONE is in my LOCKED fenced in back yard without my permission, they're risking getting shot.

My weapon of choice:  30 caliber that also shoots arrows.  I would prefer to use the arrows on an intruder to keep the noise down from waking up neighbors.  It has one scope for .30 caliber pellets and another scope for arrows.  Two different barrels:  One for .30 caliber pellets and one for arrows.  The barrels simply screw on.



Video (Time stamped to 492 seconds) to show you the difference between this and a bow.  Much more accurate than a bow and it's explained why: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=z_DsjavaufI&t=492s. There are also other toys at the house ALWAYS on the ready against "would be" intruders.

It also helps having a WIRELESS security system MONITORED by Simpli-safe.  https://simplisafe.com

I have the same WIRELESS alarm attachments for windows and doors placed on the fans on exterior walls.  Meaning, if someone TRIES to pull out or push in an exterior fan to get into the mining room, they set off an alarm just as if they opened a door or window.

My dad's mining room is in his garage and NO WINDOWS.  Hence, the exhaust to the attic.
606  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Mining (Altcoins) / Re: An Excellent Way to Manage Heat From Mining in a Home or Warehouse on: February 28, 2018, 06:01:47 PM
It is very important to keep things in check concerning decibel level. All must be level up in equal terms.

What must be "level up" in regards to "decibel level?"

Explain...
607  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Mining (Altcoins) / Re: An Excellent Way to Manage Heat From Mining in a Home or Warehouse on: February 28, 2018, 05:56:04 PM
Here are the specs on the 30" model by TPI that we installed.  However, the decibel spec is not included:

I have two of these in my mining room that have been running 24/7/365 since September, 2014.

Link to their product page:  https://www.tpicorp.com/uploads/2/2/3/3/22337256/electrical-f.pdf

608  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Mining (Altcoins) / Re: An Excellent Way to Manage Heat From Mining in a Home or Warehouse on: February 28, 2018, 05:46:10 PM
30" in diameter 7,800 CFM exhaust fan in the ceiling INSIDE the mining closet.  It's straddled over a ceiling joist in the attic above the garage.

How about decibels of each?

I would have to get a decibel meter or app [For iPhone] to read the level.  Remind me in the future to do that.

609  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Mining (Altcoins) / Re: An Excellent Way to Manage Heat From Mining in a Home or Warehouse on: February 28, 2018, 05:41:55 PM
Just a look at 2 of 5 Power Distribution Units (PDU's) mounted.  More photos will be posted sometime next week.

My dad and I both have to complete our business taxes for 2017 before getting back to work on our mining rooms.

Happy Mining!

610  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Mining (Altcoins) / Re: An Excellent Way to Manage Heat From Mining in a Home or Warehouse on: February 28, 2018, 05:39:23 PM
30" in diameter 7,000 CFM exhaust fan in the ceiling INSIDE the mining closet.  It's straddled over a ceiling joist in the attic above the garage.

611  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Mining (Altcoins) / Re: An Excellent Way to Manage Heat From Mining in a Home or Warehouse on: February 28, 2018, 05:36:53 PM
This is to give you a look at what I mean when I said weather stripping was carefully placed in EACH opening for box fans.  Wanted you to see the weather stripping before completely closing it in with fans.

Don't mind the hardware that's covered by sheets to protect from dust.

612  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Mining (Altcoins) / Re: An Excellent Way to Manage Heat From Mining in a Home or Warehouse on: February 28, 2018, 05:35:06 PM
STILL AT MY DAD'S PLACE:

6 of the 8 x 20 inch box fans have been installed on this fan frame wall for the 48"W x 72"H x 18"D rack.  Two more to go in on the bottom before it's completed.

613  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Mining (Altcoins) / Re: An Excellent Way to Manage Heat From Mining in a Home or Warehouse on: February 28, 2018, 05:33:18 PM
BACK AT MY DAD'S PLACE:

All the frames for each 20" box fan were sealed on this fan frame wall for the 77"W x 72"H x 24"D rack on the inside of the mining closet.  Each square will be opened to place a fan inside AS NEEDED when rigs are added.  Weather stripping was placed in the opening of EACH square before placing 0.5" thick plywood over the opening.

614  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Mining (Altcoins) / Re: An Excellent Way to Manage Heat From Mining in a Home or Warehouse on: February 22, 2018, 06:13:04 AM
I was recently asked in a PM, "How are you calculating the cfm that is required of your exhaust system?  Or the number of air changes needed per hour?  Are you approximating it on a per gpu basis?  I can do the math from cfm of a fan to air changes per hour based the cubic feet of my mining room, but I'm not sure what goes into calculating the cfm or air changes per hour that my set up will require."

My response:

As for calculating the CFM required for exhaust, I have not done any such calculation(s).  I have no idea of number of air changes per hour.  If one wanted to know the number of air changes needed per hour, I believe they would ALSO have to decide WHAT TEMPERATURE would be the "mean temperature" they want to achieve in order to come up with an answer.

As for what "mean temperature" would be ACCEPTABLE for rigs to mine efficiently and/or effectively, that would also have to be determined by the operator.  It can be 100 degrees Fahrenheit in the room and the mining cards still mine fine.  However, I do not want the temps that high in the mining room.  Mainly for humans to be more comfortable [Temperature wise] in the house.

I'm shooting for mid to upper 80's [Fahrenheit] in the mining room with outside temps at 100 degrees Fahrenheit this summer.  That's with bringing in outside air with the intake fan.  Keep in mind, the outside air will be cooled as it is accelerated through the intake fan into the mining room.  Hence, the lower temperature in the room.  I would "accept" the ambient temp in the mining room in the 80's [Fahrenheit] this summer.  I would be "ecstatic" with those temps this summer.  That would put my GPU's in the low 50's to low 80's Celsius range [Depending on the GPU].  For example, my REFERENCE RX 480's already run at fairly high temps Celsius compared to GPU's with multiple fans.

I may be forced to get higher CFM intake and exhaust fans this summer.  I'm not sure yet.  Hence, the reason for your question(s) on calculating the CFM air changes per hour equation.  I've always been one to learn the hard way [Via experience] rather than by math in regards to temps in the mining room.  I'm "winging it" so to speak.    Grin

With the mining room currently at 99 degrees Fahrenheit, my EVGA NVIDIA 1080 Ti rigs are at mid 60's to upper 70's [Depending on location of GPU].  Why am I saying, "...depending on location?"  My 1080 Ti rigs sitting on a rack with my newly designed fan frame for 12 x box fans are currently mid 60's.  While the other 1080 Ti's [With fans but NOT with newly designed fan frame] are mid to upper 70's Celsius.  It's only logical to conclude if I had the entire rack system of four (4) racks properly sealed with my new design of fan frames TO KEEP HEAT GENERATED BY THE RIGS FROM BEING SUCKED BACK INTO THE BOX FANS AND BLOWN BACK ONTO THE RIGS; the rigs would run much cooler.  The main reason the mining room is 99 degrees Fahrenheit currently is because racks are sitting out in the open with no new fan frames on them to SEAL in a HOT ISLE (area/room) to separate from a COOL ISLE (area/room).

By the way, when I said, "One would need to determine what mean temperature would be acceptable to them," I was referring to the COLD ISLE (area/room).

I currently have NO COLD ISLE (area/room).  All the air brought in from outside is currently being mixed with heat from the rigs and sucked into the box fans to blow on the rigs.  Hence, the reason for my design to seal off the outside air brought in via the intake fan FROM the heat generated by the rigs BY CONSTRUCTING the fan frames for each rack with properly sealed frames around each fan to keep heat from the HOT ISLE (area/room) from getting out into the COLD ISLE (area/room) and heating up the COLD ISLE (area/room) to make the air no longer COLD but warm or hot.  Which would get sucked back into the fans and onto the rigs.
615  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Mining (Altcoins) / Re: An Excellent Way to Manage Heat From Mining in a Home or Warehouse on: February 21, 2018, 04:31:38 PM
What kind of exhaust fan are you using?  I had my airflow problem fixed in my head until someone pointed out that intake and exhaust shouldn't be through windows on the same wall.  Makes sense, it just didn't cross my mind until someone brought it up.

I think my new plan is to exhaust the heat through the ceiling into my attic.

Except for one circumstance.  Where you have a hot isle/area/room AND a cool isle/area/room.  Also, my intake and exhaust fans are 20 feet apart.  Meaning, the intake is not sucking in heat from the exhaust.  I'm currently creating the hot and cold isles in this remodel.

The fans are TPI Corporation; manufactured in Tennessee, United States.  https://www.tpicorp.com/uploads/2/2/3/3/22337256/electrical-f.pdf

I purchased mine on Amazon.  It is 30 inch in diameter and 7,800 CFM.  They make a yoke mount and stand mount.  I have two of them.  One for intake and one for exhaust.  They have worked 24/7/365 since September, 2014.  Very well made and durable fan.
616  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Mining (Altcoins) / Re: An Excellent Way to Manage Heat From Mining in a Home or Warehouse on: February 21, 2018, 02:24:51 PM
Great work OP! Thanks for documenting and sharing the photos with us.

I use a lot of those Lasko box fans. In my experience, the temps stay cooler buy placing the box fan above the rig blowing directly onto the GPU's. I find it's 2-5 degrees cooler that way instead of blowing the air from behind.

Sure, Happy to document and allow others to learn from my experience with previous remodels and this remodel.  I want others to learn from my success and/or failures.

I can agree with you there.  However, because of how many rigs I have AND the layout of my mining room, I'm FORCED to do it the way I'm about to do it in order to keep the temps down in the mining room {And therefore the entire house}.
617  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Mining (Altcoins) / Re: An Excellent Way to Manage Heat From Mining in a Home or Warehouse on: February 21, 2018, 01:49:53 PM
In this photo you see that 77"W x 72"H x 24"D rack I need to set back up in here.  I also need to take down that other small rack behind the door [Which will be used in the construction of the NEW cooling rack system.  A "lot" of stuff is on the shelves of that rack behind the door in which I'll need to find a place to put it away in the garage.  I already have seven racks for storage in the garage.  I suppose there might as well be 8 racks now.  ROFL.  Cheesy

618  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Mining (Altcoins) / Re: An Excellent Way to Manage Heat From Mining in a Home or Warehouse on: February 21, 2018, 01:45:48 PM
Just outside the French doors [Which is the entrance to the mining room] you see a heap of wood stacked on the floor from the OLD mining closet that I need to get put away in the garage:

619  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Mining (Altcoins) / Re: An Excellent Way to Manage Heat From Mining in a Home or Warehouse on: February 21, 2018, 01:43:34 PM
Next on the agenda for tomorrow will be to clean out some other stuff against a wall to make room for setting up ANOTHER 77" W x 72" H x 24" D four shelf rack system.  I have a lot of plywood and 2"x4"x8' pieces of wood from the OLD mining closet I need to get out of this room to provide room for constructing the NEW rack system for proper cooling this summer.

Here are three photos to give you an idea of all the stuff I "must" get out of the way in order to construct the NEW cooling rack system for the three (3) remaining racks [One of which needs to be put back together]:

In this photo you see several sheets of plywood, 2x4's and a make-shift temporary table I had set up about two weeks ago when I was sitting in here proper clocking my new NVIDIA rigs for better power efficiency:

620  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Mining (Altcoins) / Re: An Excellent Way to Manage Heat From Mining in a Home or Warehouse on: February 21, 2018, 01:26:54 PM
Well, I have the OLD mining closet dismantled [For the most part].  All that remains are some joists I made for the ceiling of the OLD mining closet.  I have not decided yet if I will take only a portion of those down or all of them down.

Yes, the power cords, PDU's and ethernet cords (Cat6) are a complete unmanaged mess.  However, it will look VERY organized and clean when I've completed this.  It's more important to me I keep everything mining at the moment to avoid losing revenue.  I'll get back to it again later this evening.

Cheers and Happy Mining!   Grin

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