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1  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: Is GRIN still a thing? on: Today at 01:59:52 AM
The chart at [1] compares privacy features (and scalability) of various coins. Zcash offers the most, but (like Monero) at significant cost in scalability.

[1] https://forum.grin.mw/t/scalability-vs-privacy-chart/8114

Zcash is a corporate coin (Electric Coin Company/ECC), so I wouldn't trust it. Not like Grin or Monero which are community-owned cryptocurrencies. I've read articles online claiming ZEC has a backdoor allowing governments to access sensitive info when they need to. That was during Zcash's initial days when it had a trusted setup. Developers removed the need for a trusted setup with recent network upgrades, but I'm still skeptical.

Good-old GRIN is a much better choice, imo. It's one of the early privacy coins that made use of "Mimblewimble". Just like BEAM. Litecoin even adopted GRIN's privacy tech in its core wallet software. If GRIN development continues, it could become a solid project like Monero. We need as much privacy coins as possible to help counter governments' efforts of taking down mixers for good. Who knows what the future of the crypto industry will be? Cheesy
2  Economy / Economics / Re: The collapse of central banks...Inevitable? on: Today at 01:42:03 AM
You're right; these "elites," the old guard, love control and power from the money printer. Since they rule fiat currencies, why would they rebel? The system is rigged for corruption, and they won't want to give up its secrecy

Bitcoin and its movement are changing everything, man. Transparent and tough, it won't change. The goal is to reclaim power, not just technology. Definitely a lengthy road. Every time someone realises they can manage their digital money? A little earthquake rattles the system

You're right about CBDCs. Governments are likely adopting digital currencies. That could be the greatest Trojan horse. After getting used to digital money, people start to wonder who's in charge. That leads to actual decentralisation. Your voice, preaching about independence and not having Big Brother watch your finances, will change attitudes

People aren't seeing the big picture. They're only focused on making money with Bitcoin. Not to use it as an alternative to the corrupt Fiat money system backed by central banks and governments alike. The spot ETFs, taking down mixers, etc. tells us that governments already have an advantage over Bitcoin. It won't be long enough before they're able to control it. Especially by forcing people to comply with KYC just to buy/sell BTC.

With that leverage, governments and banks will only get stronger over time (not the other way around). The launch of CBDCs will mark the end of the privacy era, as they will allow governments to have a full scope over your financial life. It's likely they will outlaw crypto/Blockchain tech to prevent people from getting out of their system. The current financial crisis will only accelerate governments' efforts to reset the economy. The question is: Are we prepared for such an event? Smiley
3  Economy / Speculation / Re: High transaction fees affects those who DCA on: Today at 01:33:42 AM
Storing bitcoins on exchanges has never been advisable, but I also think it is a temporary solution for the time being with high fees. Distributing bitcoin across multiple exchanges is also not a bad idea, this will also have risks but the risks will be dispersed if the exchange collapses or is hacked. I will consider this idea if transaction fees do not decrease.

It's all "part of the plan". With high network fees, people will be forced to leave their coins on exchanges or centralized services. If this keeps up, only the wealthy (whales, institutional investment companies, governments, etc) will be able to practice self-custody of BTC. Fees may've declined now, but it won't last forever. Especially if the Ordinals craze continues. Core devs are reluctant to introduce network changes that would help mitigate the issue. They want us to switch to the centralized Lightning Network that's flawed by design.

I wonder how high network fees will be by the next block reward halving? Probably within the "four figures"? At least, we have plenty of other decentralized alternatives to choose from. Litecoin is one of them. At this point, we could say Bitcoin failed as a digital currency. It's only good as a store of value. You can rely on BTC as a Gold alternative, while using LTC for day-to-day payments (like Fiat). The future can't be predicted, so lets hope for the best. Smiley
4  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Everyone is celebrating about the fourth halving but what is this? on: Today at 01:30:55 AM
My portfolio value is irrelevant here, if that was such a compulsion then why not an altcoin?

If you want to spend $100 on something and you have 10K in your wallet doesn't mean we should pay $26 for transferring $100 or at least in my opinion, I wouldn't do that mistake because we have alternatives to do it for cents.

Well, some people prefer the security and reliability of Bitcoin for payments. Even if that comes at a cost of higher fees and slower confirmation times. Altcoins are faster and cheaper to use, but are often centralized and unreliable. Bitcoin's Lightning Network promises to fix this. But so far, it has failed to attract the masses. I think this has to do with a lack of user experience and flawed/buggy design.

At least, Bitcoin works well as a store of value. With "Wall Street" getting in the game, don't expect this to change anytime soon. Hopefully, fees will be much lower by the next block reward halving. Smiley
5  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Bitcoin halving is hours ago. Will you hold your BTC to April 2028? on: Today at 01:24:28 AM
I don't think so if they are intelligent investors who have good financial management and capital management for what they spent in Bitcoin investment.

An intelligent investor only uses part of capital for investment and always reserve some of capital for pay bills, expenses and for emergent events. If an investor has to sell bitcoin because of inflation, economic crisis, that investor does not have good capital and risk management.

Of course. It's always about prioritizing saving over spending. You need to know how to properly manage your finances to be successful in life. Unfortunately, current global economic uncertainty, makes it difficult to save or even invest into risky assets like Bitcoin and Gold. Most investors will be tempted to sell all of their assets to help pay off their debts. Only those that are wealthy or have a significant amount of money to waste are able to "hodl" for a long time.

I think a small number of investors will hold their BTC by 2028. It's a "free market", anyways. Anyone can do whatever they want with their money. But the decisions you make, can either produce long-term consequences or benefits. For what I know, nothing is set in stone. Who knows how far Bitcoin will go in the next 4 years? Cheesy
6  Economy / Services / Re: [Crypto.Games] ★ Signature Campaign ★ Hero - Legendary[Full] ★ on: April 28, 2024, 02:45:34 AM
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Received! Thank you! Cheesy
7  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: Is GRIN still a thing? on: April 27, 2024, 02:07:26 AM
I think (or hope) that the recent actions, and oversteps, by the US govt will start to remind people why we are here in the first place, and we will see renewed interest in so called "privacy coins".

It was over three decades ago this was published:
https://www.activism.net/cypherpunk/manifesto.html

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We the Cypherpunks are dedicated to building anonymous systems. We are defending our privacy with cryptography, with anonymous mail forwarding systems, with digital signatures, and with electronic money.

Cypherpunks write code. We know that someone has to write software to defend privacy, and since we can't get privacy unless we all do, we're going to write it. We publish our code so that our fellow Cypherpunks may practice and play with it. Our code is free for all to use, worldwide. We don't much care if you don't approve of the software we write. We know that software can't be destroyed and that a widely dispersed system can't be shut down.

Fifteen years after that and fifteen years before today, Satoshi launched the first widely dispersed electronic money system that can't be shut down. Ten years ago Monero launched and added significantly more anonymity to the mix. And five years ago Grin launched with an efficient and fairly private blockchain, but more importantly imo a significantly more fair distribution or emission curve.

How do you make sure everyone in the world has a chance to get some coin? The only two viable options on the market today seem to be grin and worldcoin Cheesy

Worldcoin? Isn't that the one created by Sam Altman (the founder of OpenAI)? I wouldn't call it a "privacy coin", especially when it used to collect biometric data from users. Not even the original Worldcoin project (with ticker WDC) has privacy features. Only GRIN and Monero have. They're considered the best privacy coins in the world. Monero has a larger community than GRIN because it's much older. It's also much more active in development and heavily-marketed across the web.

Despite that, GRIN is still going strong (even with declining interest in privacy coins among the general public). With mainstream governments getting stricter against crypto/Blockchain tech, I believe people will turn their attention to GRIN and the likes. It would only be a matter of time before this happens. Who knows how far will the GRIN project go? Cheesy
8  Economy / Speculation / Re: BitcoinETF approval will possibly cause much bigger jump than most people expect on: April 27, 2024, 01:59:33 AM
I wouldn't be so worried about this.
Holding a large amount of bitcoins doesn't make you feel heard in the community. Bitcoin is not a PoS shitcoin.
There is no way that ETF issuers can influence bitcoin development because they hold a large stash of bitcoin.
Of course, they could pay to access the Bitcoin development team, but this would depend on their economic power, not the fact that they hold many bitcoins.

Of course not. Bitcoin may not be a PoS coin, but economic holders can have an impact over network consensus. Especially if they use their money to acquire a large portion of the hashrate. Firms like BlackRock, Fidelity, and VanEck are filthy rich. What makes you think they won't buy companies with mining farms (or even make their own)? They can even pay for the development of Bitcoin Core and steer the project to their own direction. Even if the community decides what gets approved or rejected on BTC's codebase, that won't stop greedy corporations from getting what they want.

The idea has always been to encourage self-custody of BTC among individuals to prevent third-parties from monopolizing it. That's what governments want (especially the US government). They want institutional investment companies to buy all of the BTC so they can control it. People will be forced to comply with KYC just to get access to Bitcoin. Just because ETFs promise to "pump" market prices, doesn't mean it's good for the future of BTC. Hopefully, people will understand this before it's too late. Cheesy
9  Economy / Economics / Re: The collapse of central banks...Inevitable? on: April 27, 2024, 01:56:07 AM
I would think that central banks won't collapse for so long until they are not an integral part or the main pillar of the elites' wealth anymore. In other words, the elites would need to shift their wealth into assets that are not affected by central bank collapses. I don't claim that I fully understand the financial system with all its different angles, but my assumption is that the whole banking sector is so deeply entangled with central banks that a collapse of central banks would mean a collapse of the entire financial sector, which mean a collapse of the entire system built on the financial sector, i.e. the world economy.

BTC is now a system outside the existing system. That makes it so interesting to own. Of course a collapse in the global economy would affect BTC because people would suffer from poverty and all the bad things that come with financial distress or let alone collapse. The urge to sell BTC to cover expenditures would certainly create selling pressure for BTC, too. Yet it could be the currency or wealth preservation tool that people agree upon globally. But it would be interesting to do some research as to how a spill over effect of a collapsing central bank system / economy could affect BTC after all.

It's hard to imagine the "Elite" moving out of the existing banking system anytime soon. Especially those with a lot of influence in the government. Corruption and manipulation can be easily achieved on centralized Fiat money, than Bitcoin. The latter is transparent and open to anyone worldwide. You think corrupt politicians and the wealthy (the Elite) would like that? I think not.

Considering that central banks have too much power, don't expect them to disappear anytime soon. They will eventually reset the global economy via the launch of CBDCs. Just you wait and see. All I care about is freedom, privacy, and self-sovereignty. As long as people are able to obtain that with Bitcoin, nothing else matters. Smiley
10  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Mining (Altcoins) / Re: Mining ORE tokens...Worth it? on: April 27, 2024, 01:51:42 AM
Magi attempted to make mining egalitarian, where every device is treated equally regardless of its power or technology.
That does not limit it to mobile devices only so is missing the point.
There is no technical way for a server to prevent POW from being used with any capable device, even pencil and paper.
To claim otherwise is a scam. If it's POW it's not mobile only and if it's mobile only it's not POW. Whether it's worth it is up to you.

Exactly. That's my point. You can mine XMG on any device easily. Of course, it's not marketed as a mobile-only PoW coin. But you can easily get on-board with any mobile device unlike its competitors. Servers and/or big mining farms will still be able to mine Magi, but they'll receive a lower block reward than the "little guy".

Based on what I've read and seen, I don't think it's worth mining ORE on a mobile device. It looks just like Electroneum (ETN). As with any PoW cryptocurrency, don't expect to get rich mining with low-powered devices. Who's to say you can't have fun doing so? Cheesy
11  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Investing in a casino's bankroll...Still worth it in 2024? on: April 27, 2024, 01:48:37 AM
Old days used to be different, those were the times when one wouldn't need to verify their identity before they could make deposits and withdrawals in a casino platform even if the amount was very large because there was no such concept back then, and those were the times when one could invest their money in a casino's bankroll and earn a reasonable amount in return for doing that because there were not a lot of investors in those days and casinos used to have smaller bankrolls which was why they used to accept investments.

Current platforms, I don't know all of them but from the ones that I have used and know, Blackjack.fun does have an option for their customers to make investments, I haven't tried it so I don't know the percentage they are sharing but you can give it a try and see if it suits your desires.

Yeah. Those were the days. Investing in a casino's bankroll without KYC was one of the features that made crypto casinos different from their Fiat counterparts. I guess increasing regulations in the crypto industry led many casino operators to remove the option. Aside from the fact that most of them have large bankrolls (which means they don't need direct investments from crypto "hodlers").

At least, not all hope is lost. We still have Bustabit, Bustadice, and Bitvest. I'm yet to try the Blackjack.fun website you've mentioned. Hopefully, we'd get to see more options with the advent of decentralized gambling. Who knows if you'd be able to earn bankroll profits just by "hodling" the decentralized casino's token? To avoid scrutiny from the regulators, it's best to design something like this in a discreet way. The future can't be predicted, so let's hope for the best.  Undecided
12  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: TRON is bad coin, here is why on: April 25, 2024, 06:10:16 PM
This is true. I did not remember this factor. People use TRC20 USDT a lot due to the transactions speed that ranges from just a few seconds to a few minutes. And TRON has really low transaction fees too. I remember that a few times I received USDT there.

Buddy, Solana has lower fees and faster confirmation times than TRON itself. It has all of the attention of mainstream investors and traders alike. Not only that, but developers are building their projects on top of the Solana chain. Demand for TRX is declining due to lack of active development and innovation. The only use case for TRON would be stablecoin transactions. But with SOL on the spotlight, that could end soon. Especially when it has a bigger market share than TRX itself.

TRON founder Justin Sun gathered a lot of controversy within the crypto/Blockchain industry. His shady actions has led many to distrust his projects. He is now under investigation by the SEC (a US regulatory agency). Considering these facts, don't expect TRX to reach $1 anytime soon. It will always be a worthless coin to the eyes of the crypto community. At least, the code is open source. What's stopping anyone from making a better version of TRON in the future? Grin
13  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: Is GRIN still a thing? on: April 25, 2024, 06:03:27 PM
I've been looking again a bit into the stats and currently they're quite bleak at the first glance. Google Trends searches are very low, even if there was a little bit more interest than in 2022/23 lately.


I however am not sure which could be the best search term here, but I think grin alone isn't enough.

Price has also unfortunately returned to the levels before the 2024 pump, hitting new lows when compared to Bitcoin. Here's a bit larger picture since the 2022 lows, including the important Grin/BTC chart:


For someone new to Grin like me it can look like "should I really buy that?", but it also could be an opportunity, knowing that Grin is truly a quite unique coin. I can imagine that a part of the recent price decrease is to a generally weak altcoin market, but also the decision of the Ironbelly developer to end development  (that seems to have been a mobile Grin app and was probably was MemurKafasi mentioned above) could have contributed. There seems to be some conflict in the community when reading the latest pages, and I don't really understand why, perhaps someone can enlighten me Smiley Reminds me a bit of Burstcoin (now Signum) also an interesting project but which lost traction due to continued conflict between the devs, followed by a rebranding which while it made sense could not revert the tendency until now.

Well, privacy coins aren't as popular as NFTs or even "meme" coins like Dogecoin and Shiba Inu. After all, most people have "nothing to hide". With US government cracking down on mixers, we should expect demand for privacy coins to decline over time. I wouldn't be surprised if governments (particularly the US) go as far as "banning" privacy coins from mainstream use.

GRIN is a good coin like Monero with a unique approach towards privacy and anonymity. If only it had the backing of mainstream investors, it would've gone to the moon by now. Fortunately, the core Blockchain network still works. As long as the community keeps it alive, nothing else matters. Cheesy
14  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Mining (Altcoins) / Re: Mining ORE tokens...Worth it? on: April 25, 2024, 05:59:23 PM
Did you read my code? Wink

Seriously, keep in mind Magi is 10 years old and so is its white paper and the M7M algorithm. The white paper, like many in crypto, reads more like a
sales pitch than a technical description.

Block reward adjsustment is nothing new but is a property of the coin, not the algo, and it applies to the entire network, not individual miners.

If Magi worked as you suggest it would destroy pool mining because a pool appears as one miner to the blockchain and would therefore be
penalized as a whale.

Also keep in mind hashrate is an artificial metric, it's calculatred based on submitted shares or blocks over time. The blockchain network only sees the submitted
blocks, it can't tell how they are produced, whether it was one big CPU, a pool of small CPUs, or simple luck.

The fact is mining on a phone is done with the CPU, and competes with any other CPU, big or small.

Conversely any POW coin that can be mined on a desktop can also be mined on a phone if the software is available. Real POW mining on a phone should be avoided for
reasons that I have articulated elsewhere.

"Phone only POW" is just a marketing lie.

Edit: the only thing unique about M7M is the use of multi-precision arithmetic which makes it unsuitable for implementing on GPUs.

I understand most crypto projects exaggerate their features to help attract investors into them. But Magi is not one of them. The M7M hashing algorithm, although old, works as described by the original dev. It's not simulated mining (unlike Electroneum and the likes). I've once tried to mine XMG with a high hashrate, only to receive 1 XMG per block. Did the same with a low-powered Android smartphone, and got a higher reward in return.

The idea is to eliminate the monopolization of pooled mining and incentivize solo mining. A great way to encourage decentralization of the network, imo. Despite Magi's design, that hasn't stopped pool operators from running their own business. They still win with the fees they collect from miners using their pool. But at least, the algo works as intended.

What the project needs is a little tuning to keep it on-par with the latest advancements in the crypto/Blockchain space. With active development and innovation, CPU-mineable coins like Magi can make the difference. So I would not generalize and call all mobile-friendly PoW coins a scam. It's just that there aren't any serious developers working on making mobile mining a reality. Who knows? Maybe things will change in the future... Cheesy
15  Economy / Speculation / Re: Is the halving already priced in? on: April 25, 2024, 05:56:57 PM
I've always hinted at this in all related posts, it is a serious consideration and we should be very careful due to that. Not that we are perfect in our view but cautious for a possibility that what happened in the last 8 months could have affected the post-having effect of this season which is always believed to be greeted with a huge bull run. But since Bitcoin had even hit above the former ATH before this year's halving, I seriously doubt what could become of it this time going forward. It might be a situation where it will disappoint us all or a situation where the bullish effect will not be as much as people expected.

This should have been ascertained in the next 1 year from now, and if Bitcoin cannot breach the new ATH which is around $73,850, it will be a serious problem for the coin to move higher. However, it has nothing to lose as a good coin since I am sure it might preserve itself above the psychological level of $50,000. Doing that alone means that it has achieved a lot already. However, a breach of $73,850 could send it easily to $75,000 and above in a matter of days.

For all I know, this halving period is different from the rest. Spot ETFs were approved before the "big event", triggering a massive "pump" on BTC's market price. I'm yet to see if the market will remain bullish during the remainder of the year. While BTC did reach a new ATH, it's still far from the projected $100k - $150k market price. Within 1-2 years from now, it's hoped the market will turn bearish. I mean if history repeats itself again.

You should always pay attention to the market to determine when it's the right time to buy and when it's the right time to sell. Buy low, sell high. The crypto market behaves in many strange and bizarre ways, so expect the unexpected. Smiley
16  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: "Meme" coins are ruining everything on: April 25, 2024, 05:54:46 PM
Enforcing something like that would mean some serious changes to L1 that most people wouldn't agree with.
It also most likely would make everything even more centralized, as there would need to be a consensus where people would need to agree about very specific definition of a "meme" token.

That would create more tokens that would just game the system and change themselves just enough to bypass the definition. They would add smallest amount of functionality that fooled most of the people, and teams wouldn't call them meme tokens, even if they would be identical to them. Concept of meme is very vague, and it seems like a lost fight to me. Some of them would seem like a meme from the outside, because meme sells, and at the same time good experimental tech under the hood. And at the end, chain would end up just full of copycat tokens that have basically identical code.

With freedom comes also insufferable stupidity, and that's going to be enforced by at least 50% of population. So i wouldn't put any trust on stakers voting for coins that get to be in L1 either. Even if they wouldn't want those tokens in L1, there would be a problem with stakers selling their votes when new meme tokens wanted in L1.

I guess you're right. There's nothing we can do to stop the "meme" coins craze. Especially when crypto is all about freedom. Its decentralized and open source nature allows anyone to experiment on it without restrictions or limitations of any kind.

Despite the fact that "meme" coins increase network congestion, they're a great way to attract noobs into the world of crypto. You can thank their inexpensiveness for that. I've seen "meme" coins being built on L2 networks to enhance user experience. Dogecoin has its own chain, but it might need some scaling improvements if the masses use it like crazy. Don't expect "meme" coins to become serious long-term investments due to their high inflation rates. Nothing can beat the "King" (Bitcoin), anyways. Who knows where the future will lead the crypto/Blockchain industry?  Roll Eyes
17  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Mining (Altcoins) / Re: Mining ORE tokens...Worth it? on: April 24, 2024, 06:31:05 PM
Bad example.
M7M is a regular POW algorithm, there's nothing mobile about it, It can be mined with any desktop, laptop, workstation or server CPU.
If anyone claims M7M is mobile only they are scammers. My previous statement stands, all mobile only mining is a scam.

Did you get to read the whitepaper? Coin Magi's M7M hashing algorithm is unique where big miners get punished while the small ones get rewarded. In essence, the higher your hashrate, the lower the block reward will be. This mechanism makes it easy enough to mine XMG on mobile devices. I've tried it myself using both NeoNeonMiner and AAMiner with success. Of course, I wouldn't expect to get rich doing this. But at least, it's fun.

I would've wished Electroneum and the likes used a similar hashing algorithm instead of simulating the mining process through a mobile app. You're not actually mining ETN when using the app. Perhaps the new ORE token is the same. They're all scams. But not Magi. The original dev (Joelao) made the PoW algorithm (M7M hash) truly-unique. And with PoS on the side, you'd win both ways (mining and staking). Maybe we'll see new mobile-friendly PoW coins in the future? Only time will tell. Cheesy
18  Economy / Economics / Re: The collapse of central banks...Inevitable? on: April 24, 2024, 05:36:16 PM
their collapse seems unlikely in the near term. Central banks play a crucial role in economic stability and have tools at their disposal to address various economic issues.

If hypothetically, trust in fiat currencies were to erode significantly, it could lead to increased interest to Bitcoin. However, for Bitcoin  become the dominant global currency, several substantial hurdles need to be overcome. So  while the role of digital currencies is likely to grow, the complete replacement of fiat by Bitcoin in the near future seems improbable.
Economic systems are intricate and usually change gradually over time rather than suddenly shifting all at once.

Governments are always seeking control/power over the people. And Bitcoin takes that away from them. Don't expect governments to ditch Fiat in favor of something they can't control. Even if El Salvador adopted BTC as legal tender, it still hasn't abandoned the USD. Even Venezuela's been using the Tether/USDT stablecoin to avoid sanctions (which is a digital equivalent to the USD). Not Bitcoin or even Gold.

I guess the decentralization of the world's economy will remain a long and distant dream. Central banks will only get bigger and stronger over time. I fear a "global reset" is approaching with the launch of CBDCs. Who knows what the future of our society will be?  Roll Eyes
19  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: Is Kaspa worth it? on: April 24, 2024, 05:33:05 PM
I cant believe this coin is not discussed more around here. Fair launched, No premine, no Ico, and community driven. Isnt that wny this forum was created in the first place.

There isn't much discussion for truly-decentralized projects like Kaspa and ETC, because most people are interested in making a quick buck. All of the attention is on "meme" coins and NFTs. KAS is just another smart contract platform without any exciting tokens and/or services built on it. The day someone decides to launch a "meme" coin on the Kaspa blockchain, will be the day KAS will go all the way to the moon. It's that simple.

The crypto market is all about hype these days. If KAS fails to gain the attention of mainstream investors and traders alike, it will remain a lost and forgotten coin forever. At least, the project has a good vision behind it. As long as it stays decentralized and censorship-resistant, there should be nothing to worry about. Grin
20  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: Hedera Hashgraph is ten times better than Ethereum on: April 24, 2024, 05:30:08 PM
    If I compare it to ethereum as a form of investment, literally speaking, it looks like I can get a big profit here compared to ETH, because not only is its daily volume good, but it is also so high that the market capital it achieved in the market can be compared.

     And there are also many exchanges where it is listed and will be added, from what I can see. Although I just heard of him now, 4 years ago, its ATL was around 0.009$ https://www.coingecko.com/en/coins/hedera , and now it is at 0.1$ each something. Thanks for tackling this topic.

HBAR is relatively-new to the crypto/Blockchain space, which means there's ample room for growth. Not like Ethereum which is already mainstream and well-known by investors and traders alike. I believe HBAR is undervalued considering that it's 10x faster and cheaper than ETH. Perhaps, Hashgraph is even more efficient than the overhyped Solana chain. A stress test comparing both networks' performance would be ideal.

The problem is that most VCs, and mainstream investors are only interested in ETH and SOL. HBAR is not as heavily-marketed as its competitors, anyways. Without a good marketing/promotion strategy, there won't be enough hype to "pump" market prices all the way to the moon. That's the way it works. It's not about the tech, but rather how speculative a crypto coin is. Why do you think "meme" coins are getting all of the attention these days? I bet if someone creates a "meme" coin on Hedera Hashgraph, HBAR's price will rise well above $0.10. Who knows? I'd buy and "hodl" HBAR just in case. Smiley
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