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21  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Does Skill Work? on: January 17, 2016, 11:21:56 AM
of course skill works, otherwise anyone with a bit of poker knowledge would be on tv at the major poker tournaments and making millions. there is a skill ceiling to poker and there are a handful of players who consistently play at that level and are constantly appearing at these events. that should be more than a small indication of how much skill can matter.
22  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Dice game strategy? on: January 17, 2016, 11:18:09 AM
This guy turn 0.2 BTC into 1.3 BTC  Roll Eyes He is a big lucker..
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dH1rKVMAT1I - video here

waoo!! thats very good to see that some one winning. But its true that
only 0.50% players are able to get profits in gambling..rest are just looser.... Sad

Not really I would rather say some 10% guys get lucky and yes really turning 0.2 into 1.3 is damn lucky. I love to turn such small amounts over a bitcoin, I hope I also get lucky in future. These are the reasons I still keep on trying gambling by depositing my hard earned bitcoins.

its not as lucky as you think, its the same as if you turned 2 satoshi into 13, just with larger bets. people tend to only consider themselves "lucky" when they win obscene amounts, yet never consider other lucky strings of rolls.

Well is how you can think about it and what is your strategy and knowledge about the game and also lucky.
True that all is not lucky, but still with gambling is about how lucky you can be.
Some day you can play smart as you want, but still will lose.
because playing smart doesnt matter in a game like dice. there is nothing like "there were 4 lows in a row just now so i should bet high" sort of thinking in dice, each roll is its separate result. unless your definition of "playing smart" means precognition, no amount of brainpower will help you in a game of pure luck. it can get you far enough on something like blackjack if you try counting cards, or in poker if youre skilled, but it does nothing in a random game.
23  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: How to stay away from gambling? suggestions ? on: January 17, 2016, 11:13:26 AM
Try to involve yourself in other tasks.
Start planning wisely about your money.
Get a guide about quitting gambling.
its a lot easier than you think, an addict only thinks about getting their fix, nothing else matters to them except survival and their addiction, they wont voluntarily go out and find another hobby to take up their time. you have to forcibly keep them away from any gambling outlet or forcibly make them do something else.
24  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: How to stay away from gambling? suggestions ? on: January 17, 2016, 11:08:01 AM
To stay away from gambling you should go away at least from your pc for a while, you should stop visiting the websites which you learned or gambled before and so one you will leave it completely.
IMO, leave your PC for awhile just to stay away from gambling websites is just a temporary solution because once you are near to your PC, you will start to visit gambling websites sooner or later.
thats not a solution then, in the modern world a lot of things involve use of =computers and the internet, its wont possible to just cut yourself off from a computer without cutting off access to a lot of what society has to offer, unless thats what it takes for some addicts to quit of course.
25  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Is it profitable to invest in betting sites? on: January 17, 2016, 10:59:53 AM
Investing in a betting site is more profitable than playing itself, because gambling sites has their own strategy to make the gambler lose their money
 Cheesy
exactly, casino games are designed to make the player lose, and profit the casino. otherwise there would be no open casinos. thats why dice sites provide an auto betting tool for players so the martingale losers will lose faster Cheesy many people are too blind to see this, the casino wouldnt put work into something if it cost them money.
26  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: How much can you earn with gambling? on: January 17, 2016, 10:53:48 AM
earning from gambling depends on your luck and selfcontrol, you could win or loss millions in short period
there is no stable and regular income guarantee
gambling isnt earning to begin with, as you said, its not a steady and reliable source of income. its winning money, not earning it. gambling isnt work, unless youre a professional poker player, but even then the income might not be steady as that would depend on your luck and opportunities to win.
27  Economy / Gambling / Re: Dice gambling method #1 - Use wisely. on: January 17, 2016, 10:49:03 AM
There are ''real methods'' that work better than others and can even increase your odds but just a little, Dooglus used an example: 

  ''For an example of a better strategy, try:

  bet 0.5 at 33%
  if you win, you get 99/33 = 3x, so you get 1.5 back, a profit of 1 - you've doubled your money

  if you lose, bet the other 0.5 at 24.75%
  if you win, you get 99/24.75 = 4x, so you get 2 back - you've doubled your money

  the only way it goes wrong is if you lose both the 33% and the 24.75% - the chance of that is (1-0.33) * (1-0.2475) = 0.504175
  so the chance of success is 1 - 0.504175 = 0.495825 = 49.5825% - a fraction higher than 49.5''

As you can see, you are literally increasing your odds to 49.58 instead of 49.5 but of course that's still not enough to win long term but definitely better long term than this strategy.
youre not really increasing your odds of winning, youre just decreasing the chances of you losing by reducing the effect the house edge can have on you. its a small difference, but theres a distinction. however, there are no "best" gambling methods, youre bound to eventually lose to how the games are designed to benefit the casinos.
28  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Dice game strategy? on: January 15, 2016, 07:17:15 PM
This guy turn 0.2 BTC into 1.3 BTC  Roll Eyes He is a big lucker..
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dH1rKVMAT1I - video here

waoo!! thats very good to see that some one winning. But its true that
only 0.50% players are able to get profits in gambling..rest are just looser.... Sad

Not really I would rather say some 10% guys get lucky and yes really turning 0.2 into 1.3 is damn lucky. I love to turn such small amounts over a bitcoin, I hope I also get lucky in future. These are the reasons I still keep on trying gambling by depositing my hard earned bitcoins.

its not as lucky as you think, its the same as if you turned 2 satoshi into 13, just with larger bets. people tend to only consider themselves "lucky" when they win obscene amounts, yet never consider other lucky strings of rolls.
29  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Gambling. Is It Wrong? on: January 15, 2016, 09:28:05 AM
if you play with small money its not wrong in my opinion because you can afford to lose some money but if you play with huge money then it is wrong
than what if what may be considered "large" for you is just pocket change to someone else? you cant decide whats wrong or right based on relative value, you need a clear cut definite answer.
30  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Gambling. Is It Wrong? on: January 14, 2016, 04:41:04 AM
Dependence to gambling will never become tolerable. If we treat gambling as a way of just having fun  and not source of  income and at the same time enjoying the process,  as long as you don't hurt anyone(family,friend,co-workers anyone around you ) then it's not wrong just don't abuse it.

Some people believe in the end do gambling will lead you to something wrong.
And some people think gambling itself is a wrong thing to do.
So if the context about gambling are wrong overall, I guess yeah gambling are wrong. Too many bad effect caused of gamble rather than positive thing.

If you spend your affordable money and enjoying the gambling thrill and fun things then you will not find gambling as a wrong. You may start calling gambling is right. Only those who have lost their money with gambling has found gambling is wrong. But they are in more percentage.

and thats exactly the kind of justification an addict would make in their own head. chances are though, 99 percent of people that gamble have lost money overall, yet they refuse to stop and say "its just for fun" or "i can afford to lose." people like that are just throwing money away and lying to themselves that its ok.
31  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: How much can you earn with gambling? on: January 14, 2016, 04:38:06 AM
Nothing in my opinion, because I have lost more than wins. I think is difficult for me to just earn money with gambling.
How more you play is how more you can lose and lose your money than just trying to earn at the end. So I am just playing for fu.

You keep losing on gambling and you are still going for it. Is there any fun with losing in gambling? I dont really understand what are you guys thinking when you are in losing. I know that fun only if you have a winning a lot of money or may be you can recover what your lose before. Others than that is not fun at all

i can see money is definitely an important thing for u, but it's not always that serious for other ppl. i'm not just talk about the rich, or idiots, or weirdo, or crazy ppl. ok, maybe call it crazy is a lil bit acceptable.
daily life is full of boring and stress thing, make ppl want to esp. find gamble funny is not that hard to imagine.

Maybe it is not fun losing your money at the end, but that is gambling going there to just earn money won't be easy target. I think when you are having fun maybe you will win it. But why not still go for it is just fun.

By the way I have a budget with that money I can afford to lose so no worries with it.
some people can do it, just look at the professional poker players, they treat the game as their job and make a decent living off of it. these people dont do it for fun, its their job, and even though you can still enjoy the game, you cant just have the mindset of "its just for fun" if something like professional poker is your goal.
32  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Gambling. Is It Wrong? on: January 13, 2016, 05:56:50 AM
Gambling is not wrong in the sense if you are doing it with the money you can afford to lose.
It is not easy to always win, but losing is always a risk.
no, its not wrong in the sense that its the people that make the decision to fall into the trap and become addicts, its their faults. and "gambling with money you can afford to lose" is just such a terrible way of thinking, its as if youre accepting that youre throwing that money away to waste a bit of time, just not worth it, ever.
33  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: is gambling fix your life? or wreck your life? on: January 13, 2016, 05:52:36 AM
I love gambling. Maybe it is an addiction may be not. But you always spend money what you love. Don't you?
theres a big difference in loving something as a hobby and being addicted. if you see gambling as "spending money" to enjoy, i would say youre addicted. you admit that you constantly lose out on money when gambling, and it sounds like you gamble often from your comment. you should check your gambling habits once in a while, chances are you might be losing a lot more than you think for a few seconds of this so called "fun."
34  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Is it profitable to invest in betting sites? on: January 13, 2016, 05:49:30 AM
I just think to invest should the trading site, but to invest in the betting site I think it would have little benefit and risk are great Smiley
the risks are great if you invest into hyip ponzis that say that they are trading websites and usually scam people, i would definitely avoid it at any costs
those arent gambling sites though, those are ponzis, and "investing" into one of those sites is a risk of itself. there is just no way that a ponzi scheme is sustainable in the long run, and its almost a guarantee that the owner will run with all deposits once it starts becoming unsustainable.
35  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: is gambling fix your life? or wreck your life? on: January 13, 2016, 03:10:38 AM
If you got addicted you should seek help asap. There would be no sense to keep on with your gambling habits.
Gambling is like alcohol, if you take too much you will lose yourself.
its like any other drug, not just alcohol. any addict will go to any lengths to get their fix, even if it means stealing money to buy drugs, buy alcohol, gamble, etc. the addict becomes dependent on their addiction for one reason or another.
36  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: How greedy you are ? on: January 11, 2016, 03:22:43 AM
I think greed is the wrong word to use here. The correct word would be foolishness, because people are so foolish that they blow all their cash on gambling and stupid investments.
that or ignorance, or flat out stupidity. people see the results right in front of them, and yet they choose to repeat their mistakes over and over and complain about their issues on this board rather than change how they gamble. all it takes it just a tiny bit of self control to not keep betting, but they just act like the result will be magically different from the last run and do it all over.
37  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Gambling on: January 11, 2016, 03:19:15 AM
Dice maybe is it isnt rigged... but also blackjack.. it needs some skills along with luck factor
dice is completely unrelated to skill, its completely luck, and nothing else to it. there is no skill that can possibly be involved in choosing a high or low bet and clicking a button to roll. as for blackjack, its only about making a smart call to hit or stay, theres not much "skill involved" at all.
38  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Is it profitable to invest in betting sites? on: January 11, 2016, 03:14:51 AM
You should be familiar with what you are investing in and understand the inherent risks beforehand. If you are trying to invest in gambling sites rather then gamble, you will definitely be safer since it is unpredictable if you will even have money left over with gambling. With investing your money, at least you have a certain amount you can assume will have a decent but not guaranteed rate of return.   Smiley

well, we all should know not to gamble cause it is always fighting the lossing battle of house edge. however, when u invest, the house edge become on your side. so you tend to win more and that is why i feel invest is a good choice for rep site.

its less risky in terms of  expected profit, but you should keep in mind that you are giving the casino owner control of your bitcoins if you invest, you need to know your coins are safe with the owner before deciding to stake your money there, which is a separate risk itself.
39  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Gambling. Is It Wrong? on: January 11, 2016, 03:08:30 AM
If you gamble once in a while for fun than it should be Ok but if you gamble to make lot of money than it is not OK.

So if you lose its wrong, but if you won its not wrong for you?  Gambling its never wrong man
If you play just for fun its okey and if you want to play in gambling to get a lot of money. Also its not wrong. But wrong is when you cant control yourself to play it.

this is what's wrong with addicts, they only see their wins and justify their losses saying "i did it for fun anyway" or "the casino was rigged," so they can come back for more without having to admit their own problems. the casino isnt wrong, but the people sure are.
40  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Gambling. Is It Wrong? on: January 10, 2016, 07:11:19 AM
its not wrong in any ways, as you earn your money yourself, people who earn their money themselves can spend it how they like, does not matter if they loosing it or not

who say ppl only use the money they've earned themselves in gambling? gamble can drives ppl really crazy, many ppl seek winning in gamble at all cost and grab every money they can reach and give no shit whose it belong to.
thats called addiction, and its no different than a drug addiction. addicts will do whatever it takes to get their fix, even if it means stealing money just to gamble a bit. i think there have been mmore than a few examples of this happening on this forum too.
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