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101  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: How to stay away from gambling? suggestions ? on: December 03, 2015, 04:03:19 AM
Don't buy any bitcoins then you will safe from online gambling.

Bitcoin is not the only currency used in on line gambling. You can also pay with credit/debit cards to do on line gambling.
Does it mean you should decline to be paid with your local currency so that you will not do on line gambling?
having bitcoin integrated makes gambling more accessible though, i would bet that a fair number of people that start gambling online start so with bitcoin instead of fiat currencies. not only are the laws not set in stone for bitcoin, there are less fees, no verification, and no accounts may be needed in most cases.
102  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Gambling. Is It Wrong? on: December 03, 2015, 04:01:41 AM
It depends on why you are gambling. If you are addicted, it is very wrong indeed.

However, if you do it for fun and don't really care if you win or lose, than gambling can actually be quite nice to do!

Well said. Do it for fun and you have a good time, while earning some money, but you could lose it too.

So play with small acounts and limit your spending.

This is what I do when I got some extra money left. I play with what I can afford to lose. If I can't afford to lose I just stay home and sit on my money.

Well if you have calculated your monthly income and your monthly bills and your savings. Than yeah gambling is good to do Tongue If you want to waste money.
If I can't afford I just play a poker game that doesn't pay any money Cheesy
why not save up that money? why knowingly throw it away just for a bit of fun, as most people on here say. there's absolutely nothing you gain, other than a bit of time passed. if someone is willingly throwing away parts of their paychecks for some momentary fun, i would say theyre gambling addicts, no matter what they say against it.
103  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Any advantages from gambling? on: December 03, 2015, 04:00:17 AM
The only advantage of gambling is having fun to play with money and try out your luck

Other than that, the most advantage is for the casino's you're losing your money to.
i wouldnt call that an advantage, there is absolutely nothing of real value in just playing for fun, nothing that matters anyways. if all this "fun" is all youre playing for, i would definitely call you a gambling addict, youre basically continuing to lose almost on purpose just because its fun.
104  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Dice game strategy? on: December 03, 2015, 03:56:29 AM
There is no strategy, all you need is pure luck.
this exactly, just place a few large bets than playing with ten satoshi or something on a ridiculous martingale plan. minimize the number of times youer going to be betting, and minimize the effect the house edge will have on you over those many bets. not only that, but martingale users tend to lose out more often than not.
105  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Can gambling be profitable in long term ? on: December 03, 2015, 03:32:00 AM
Honestly, I don't think so for the average person. If you are a professional and you understand what you are playing, the core elements and the essential vital components of the game to take advantage of the house, you will be profitable.There little reason why a casino would want to give you any advantage. A casino isn't there to lose their money, it's there to earn yours.  Grin
except you cant really take advantage of the house, that's why you dont see any professional slots players or anything. you can only take advantage of other players, in a game such as poker, where the game isnt designed to make you lose, and you can come out ahead with enough skill and experience in making the right calls.
106  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: How greedy you are ? on: December 03, 2015, 03:27:19 AM
If i gamble, i do get greedy and think i will win. That is why i dont.
If you take things like negative then you might never be able to get a chance in gambling , gambling is all about outcomes , the better you scatter your predictions the better you will get from it , merely no one has ever got rich from gambling except house but still people love to play , its all about the happy hours.
there isnt anything skill related in predicting the outcome of a roll or anything, its all random, which be definition, is something that isnt predictable. its just about getting a bit lucky a few times here and there, there really isnt much in the way of predicting whatever hand youre going to be dealt or anything. and plenty of people have gotten rich from gambling, just not very many.
107  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: How much can you earn with gambling? on: December 03, 2015, 03:18:54 AM
To be frank i have zero profit from gambling , i have lost much than win , but the thing is that i enjoy gambling, i enjoy the thrill and the urge for "what will be the outcome?" , My highest loss in single bet is 2.7 btc.
i would be willing to bet youre a gambling addict then, you knowingly keep on playing, even though you know you lose constantly, and you can remember exactly how large some of those losses were. even after hundreds down the drain from gambling, you keep trying to justify it by saying that its just for fun. quite frankly, you should start trying to cut yourself off before it gets worse.
108  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Why is gambling so addicting? on: December 03, 2015, 03:17:09 AM
If you win - usually you'll get a thrill (associated with neurotransmitter/neuropeptide release) which across a long term creates a positive feedback loop leading you to enjoy gambling and continue to do so. Furthermore, if you gamble regularly you reinforce the habit - so regardless of how much you enjoy it you'll be more inclined to gamble.
Very Correct , i agree with you .

The lure of the jackpot
Gambling can make you feel great. Everyone loves winning. It has been proven that we remember our wins longer than our losses. Some people may win when they first start gambling—sometimes even a lot of money. This is the early win phase, better known as “beginner’s luck.” It leads some people to believe that gambling is the road to easy street.
i dont think so, i think people tend to remember the big losses more so than anything else. do you honestly remember every single time youve lost? dont think so. on the other hand, i think its more than likely that people remember the bigger losses theyve had, i know i do.
109  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Can gambling be profitable in long term ? on: December 03, 2015, 01:24:19 AM
It can be if played properly
that can be said of any game, but the fact is, there arent many gambling games out there that have a skill or knowledge factor, theyre mostly pure luck. there are some games such as poker, but you need to be a clear cut better than your opponents to win consistently, and thats something much easier said than done.
110  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Is their any safe methods to gamble? on: December 03, 2015, 12:44:29 AM
"Is their any safe methods to gamble?"
Use free bit to play gamble Grin and if you runs out of btc, use free bit, don't use your money Grin

The  safest way is not to start gambling at all. Grin

The best comment in this thread Grin

Mostly I agree but since OP asked about safe methods to gamble I'd suggest apart from using free bits gamble with amounts which are below 1k sats which are just fractions of a cent. And if you can stop before losing more than a dollar I thinkk it's pretty safe too.

That is actually a good idea. But losing a dollar is just nothing I just be some people will be greedy so yeah. I just think that the safest method is control your self and play smart and don't gamble what you can't afford losing your money.

Yes its the best comment not doesn't fulfil the purpose of this thread. The safest way to gamble is by facuet or by reverse martingale in my opinion.
martingale is a losing method of gambling, especially with the house edge in casinos. and playing with the faucet is a complete waste of time, you probably spend more money on the electricity for your computer than youll even win playing with high multipliers on the faucet.
111  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Why is gambling so addicting? on: December 03, 2015, 12:27:28 AM
I don't know why but I always get a feeling to gamble, after then losing my money, I quit for some time and then continue, but I know I will lose my btc Sad

Why is it so addictive?

For me, gambling so addictive once you won free money or some amount money only by one bet. Example, by using bet 0.001BTC then you win 0.01BTC. Thats just enough for make you happy and feel want to gamble more and more.  People are greedy, after they get once free, then the want it once again and again. We cant escape from that matter, man.

then you seriously lack self control if winning a few dollars makes you happy enough that you cant escape gambling. that aside, its not a guarantee youll win that much given most bitcoin casinos have a house edge implemented too. playing with the "free money" the faucets give you is a waste of time imo.
112  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Is their any safe methods to gamble? on: December 03, 2015, 12:07:29 AM
There isn't, but you can probably cut your losses by just using one wallet with limited amounts of bitcoin and try not to use any other wallet of yours that has bitcoins on it so that you won't end up losing all if in case.
there's nothing stopping a degenerate addict from using their other wallets too though, its all a matter of self control, something a lot of people lack, especially when gambling is so easily accessible with online casinos and bitcoin.
113  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: How much can you earn with gambling? on: December 02, 2015, 11:47:13 PM
with gambling you can earn extremely huge money
yes, it's possible to make huge money if you have luck and a good bankroll. always try to make your gambling session short.

You can make good profits if you have lucky day, but at the same time your hunger to win more can eat up that profit. I always decide when to top before I even make a deposit to play.

at the end its always was a lose :< i think only the poker is winable but its not gambling i guess

I have seen friends looking a lot of money on poker, so cant say that safely, but yes better than dice sometimes. Some still prefer sports betting though.

There are a lots of professional poker player. I think poker > sports betting to earn money.  

If you want to earn money in gambling like dice, I think you need a big bankroll and a good mind.
not really, too be competent in professional poker you need to experience and skill to go against others who may be as good or better than you are. with sports betting, youre only going against the bookie's odds, and you can manage to turn a profit in the long run provided youre capable of playing the odds.
114  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: How greedy you are ? on: December 02, 2015, 11:43:47 PM
I'm not very greedy at all. Personally mostly stick to poker.
An poker players are not greedy at all. Wink

Greed is one thing but logical thinking applied to your gambling is another. Of course I want to 'win big' therefore I am greedy but I would never jeopardize my betting plan.
If I am out of my gambling budget and I lost - I quit immediately.
rather, its the competent poker players that shouldnt be greedy, but its safe to assume everyone indulges in their greed every now and then, especially when it comes to gambling. as for the commonplace poker player, i can assume theyre greedy to some extent, theyre gambling after all.
115  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Why is gambling so addicting? on: December 01, 2015, 08:59:22 AM
I believe it's addicting because people keep getting hope of winning the next round or the next one or the one after that.

So they'll just keep on playing without realising they've lost a bunch along those rounds.

Well said. In the heat of the moment people keep playing and playing, Not thinking about their loss.

They notice teir loss when there are no more chips/money

True, indeed. After that there's nothing left to lose and no chances to take after that.

Unless you got a big buffer behind you of course. After a big loss I wouldn't risk gambling for a while.
a big buffer doesnt matter if you dont have the self control to not chase your losses, which the vast majority people people end up doing. for some unknown reason, people become overconfident in winning a game of chance after winning a bit, and end up throwing it all away trying to squeak a bit more money out of the casino.
116  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Gambling. Is It Wrong? on: December 01, 2015, 08:57:18 AM
It's not wrong to gamble. Only some people cant handle it. And so they become addicted.

With those people there's something wrong. Don't play gambling for it.

Some people just can't handle their lose. Thats why play only if you can afford your lose. Dont spend too much if you can't pay it back later, if you keep on winning thats great but when you lose in such number stop it. At least trying to stop for a while before you are going to continue it
addicts can't stop gambling, even those people that always justify their gambling habits by saying its all for fun, are all addicts. those people are all knowingly gambling knowing theyll lose whatever they put in, but they keep at it anyways. its just an excuse they tell themselves to convince themselves theyre not degenerate gambling addicts.
117  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Why is gambling so addicting? on: December 01, 2015, 08:52:46 AM
gambling is only addictive to greedy people who want to keep on winning. it is wise to know when to quit in case you find yourself losing or even winning. the only problem is that no one thinks they have enough. better investing your BTC in another form if you just feel like multiplying it because betting will see you lose it. thanks

Some people thinks doing gamble make their adrenaline pushed and its make them happy.
So it is not about win or lost only there is something funny when you wait the result.
And it is addicting to fun gamble.
that's mostly true only for addicts though, most normal people will always try to play for money. an addict on the other hand, doesnt care if they win or lose, they just chase their gambling fix and nothing more. to them, the cost of losing is the just the cost of getting their fix, nothing more. and if they win, just just get another one is all.

I saw my neighbour want to chase his loss, he scream so I can hear his voice ( I think he was angry to his wife )
And the horrible part is he commit to suicide by hanging himself with rope  Lips sealed on tomorrrow

So if we can't afford to lose, better stay away from gambling !

What did I just read :O. This is one of the problem about gambling.
That is why I just gamble for fun and if I am lucky that I win money. So that I don't get addicted.
that's exactly how people get addicted though, eventually, it becomes more than just a bit of fun without you even realizing it. the only way to not get addicted is tto just not play at all, constantly telling yourself its just for fun seems like youre just trying to justify your gambling habits.
118  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Is their any safe methods to gamble? on: December 01, 2015, 08:47:00 AM
There are no actual 100% safe methods to gamble, but you could try martingale. If you have a large enough bankroll, it's almost impossible to lose. Let's say you martingale with 1 bitcoin at a 1 satoshi base bet.

If my maths is correct (I actually have no idea if it's correct or not), you should be able to cover about 20 losses in a row. How could you roll wrongly 20 times in a row!? (It's actually possible, I've lost 15 times in a row before xD)
i would say martingale is one of the 100% unsafest methods in gambling, especially in the bitcoin casinos where the house edge is a thing. take into account that with martingale, most players are going to be putting in thousands, if not tens of thousands, of bets over a long period of time. 1% edge might not seem that important, but mover those thousands of bets, it really makes a difference in the long run.
119  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Gambling. Is It Wrong? on: November 30, 2015, 09:05:54 PM
Gambling isnt wrong at all.
in a legal sense, it might not be in some places, however, in a moral sense, having gambling establishments be openly allowed in some places can be considered morally questionable at best, since it will likely contribute to some degenerate's problems with addiction, and might ruin some people's lives.
120  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: when your out of btc on: November 30, 2015, 09:02:39 PM
Bitcoins are monopoly money to have fun on the Internet with different kind of decadent activities while your hard-earned money from your salary sits safely in your bank account  Cool
not really, there a bunch you can do online with bitcoin, especially with a lot of retailers adopting it into their payment systems. its not exactly "monopoly" money when bitcoin has definite monetary value, unlike play money that some casinos offer.
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