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2801  Other / Beginners & Help / Re: Silk Road on: September 27, 2011, 09:19:51 PM
You can send ALL network traffic over tor.  I have tested ssh through it.

The software must work with a SOCKS proxy, not all software does. Im not saying it couldnt work, but have you tried with a miner app?
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You can't just move them to a different, anonymous wallet?

Hosted where? There is always an IP.
2802  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Bitcoins have lost $210,000,000 USD since June 9th 2011 on: September 27, 2011, 08:44:35 PM
See again,  everyone combined spent 210,000,000 in coins...  either by trading, mining, selling....  so yes,  EVERYONE spent $210,000,000

Flatout wrong.
If I create a new currency, P4coins, I mine 10M then sell one for $1 to my idiot neighbor. Does that mean P4coins are worth $10M ?
2803  Economy / Goods / Re: [WTS] 5x 5850's [4 left] on: September 27, 2011, 08:12:12 PM
Bought one, Ill report back when I get it.
2804  Other / Beginners & Help / Re: Silk Road on: September 27, 2011, 07:59:42 PM
This seems like a bad thread that gives legitimacy to the complaints about bitcoins being used for illicit activities.

You dont need a thread to give legitimacy to that claim, because it is true, like it or not, bitcoin is used for that. Just like cash, gold and diamonds are used for illegal trades rather than bank accounts or paypal. So what?  Only shows me criminals arent stupid and if anything, the fact criminals endorse it proves its pretty good. Why shouldnt anyone else take advantage of it for legal uses too?

As for silk road specifically, I think its a good thing really. I dont use drugs, I hope my kids wont use it, but Id rather have my kids buy their weed through silk road than by going to look for a shady dealer somewhere. I also think its high time we decriminalize drugs (which isnt the same as encouraging). Silk Road is a good step in that direction, but thats just me.
2805  Other / Beginners & Help / Re: Hardcore Bitcoin Mining Tesla Graphics Cards Available on: September 27, 2011, 06:04:52 PM
actually..
Tesla S2070    749.23
https://en.bitcoin.it/wiki/Mining_hardware_comparison

If thats accurate, thats a strangely high hashrate.
2806  Other / CPU/GPU Bitcoin mining hardware / Re: Need Help: HD 5830 is crashing my system on: September 27, 2011, 04:48:13 PM
I had cgminer set-up to stop using the card if it reached 95C which it never did, it hovered around 65-70C the whole time.

You should have checked VRM temps too, if your card supports it. Its  possible they blew out. Its not so hard to keep the GPU cool, its quite hard to keep the VRMs from melting.

Anyway, you may want to try with the 5830 alone, preferably in a slot that you know works (one where there is a 5770 now) and see if that works.
2807  Other / CPU/GPU Bitcoin mining hardware / Re: I did it, i shouldve listened to you guys. PSU is dying. on: September 27, 2011, 04:41:45 PM
Have a look at Antec Earthwatts. No frill PSUs, they dont look shiny or have no fancy paintjobs, but they are excellent and affordable.
2808  Other / Beginners & Help / Re: Silk Road on: September 27, 2011, 04:28:46 PM
I think mb300sd must be right, and I must be wrong.  Makes perfect sense that a mining pool would let you join in through tor.

To access the website, yes. But can you configure the miner to communicate with the pool over tor? Im not sure you can. It uses http, but I dont know if it works with a proxy.. And if you cant,  there the pool's log files that would point to you.

Moreover, you would have to keep your bitcoins at the pool and spend them from there directly, rather than transferring them to your own wallet, which I suppose is possible but rather annoying as you cant control the amount of the payouts, you risk sending too much or too little.
2809  Other / Beginners & Help / Re: Silk Road on: September 27, 2011, 03:40:00 PM
No reason to solo mine. Just visit your favorite pool through Tor.. Very few of them even require a valid email address.

But what about the payout? How do you make that go over tor? If you dont, its got your IP attached to it.
2810  Bitcoin / Pools / Re: [~30 GH/s PPLNS] BitMinter.com *** 150 BTC promotion! * 6-11% MORE BITCOINS *** on: September 27, 2011, 03:26:21 PM
Dont break your head over it. It seems to be some problem on my side. Hours later, Bitcoin.cz also stopped accepting or rejecting shares. Last share accepted was 3 or 4 hours ago, ever since I do get messages about new blocks, I get the MH rate, but its stuck on 6 accepted shares. No idea whats causing it is, but I suspect it will be solved by switching to an AMD card and diablo.
2811  Economy / Economics / Re: Screw Deflation-To-The-Moon, Bitcoin Needs Help NOW on: September 27, 2011, 03:01:27 PM
While thats fine, it can be much simpler and cheaper. Just spread the word.
ive just come back from my hairdresser and talked about it. Guess what, next time, Ill be paying him with bitcoins, I kid you not.
He's not all that PC literate, at this point, he hardly understands anything about bitcoins and so I dont see him install a point of sale system to accept bitcoins from everyone anytime soon, but he liked the idea and doesnt mind getting some; as he sees it (quite correctly) basically as if Id pay him in  lottery tickets.

IS my hairdress going to change the world? Nope, but if everyone that knows about it talks about it (and hairdressers are great for that lol), that will help, much more than a few bitcoin millionaires setting up "bitcoin funds".

So next time you get a haircut, talk about it.
2812  Bitcoin / Mining / Re: Spartan6-LX150 board for $250 -- gauging interest for mid-Oct ship date on: September 27, 2011, 02:38:46 PM
Im not an FPGA  expert by any stretch but they definitely follow Moore's law, in fact arguably more easily than CPU's, as they are much simpler and you can just up the # units as your process gets smaller.  Similar to how, because CPU designs hit an IPC  and clock scaling brick wall, most of the extra transistor budget is simply spent on going from single to dual, quad and octal cores.

That said, Im not sure I agree with the above math; the market dynamic of mining leads to difficulty gravitating  towards break even point for the average miner. I suspect most miners see their hardware investment as sunk cost, leaving the electricity bill. FPGA's already have better MH/Watt and I suspect that gap will grow as the software matures. Its true its a risky investment, certainly at this point, but once this starts generating sufficient volume I can see prices tumbling. after all, an FPGA is likely cheaper to produce than our highend gaming GPUs.
2813  Other / Beginners & Help / Re: Silk Road on: September 27, 2011, 12:36:43 PM
I wonder if this could be used somehow to make bitcoin payments more anonymous. Route a payment through Tor somehow?
My understanding is that the trick here is to hook up a miner through tor.  Any bitcoins it mines will be anonymous, to the extent that they cannot be authoritatively associated with any IP address.

That sounds correct. Although that does require either some serious hashing power or a very small habbit Smiley
I also think this requires solo mining so...
2814  Other / Beginners & Help / Re: Silk Road on: September 27, 2011, 12:35:12 PM
No one is going to be able to track down where the payments come from. its as safe as it needs to be

Its fairly trivial to match a payment with an IP, and for authorities in most cases, also trivial to match the IP with your ID. Unless you jump through hoops doing the payement, bitcoin transfers are not anonymous to authorities with access to IP logs.
Since in the US high ranking senators are calling for closing silk road down, it doesnt take much imagination to see FBI set up shop on silk road and lure in some drug buyers at least.
2815  Other / Beginners & Help / Re: Silk Road on: September 27, 2011, 11:42:08 AM
I wonder if this could be used somehow to make bitcoin payments more anonymous. Route a payment through Tor somehow?
2816  Economy / Economics / Re: Screw Deflation-To-The-Moon, Bitcoin Needs Help NOW on: September 27, 2011, 09:39:00 AM
Half the Bitcoin wealthy’s stash could be worth far more, later, if they would just pump half of their stash (i.e. some healthy percentage) into the Bitcoin infrastructure now. Mind you, since they hold the Bitcoin wealth, they would be investing in their own holdings.

This makes no sense whatsoever. What exactly do you suggest they do? Sell their bitcoins? That will collapse the value and achieve precious little otherwise. Spend their bitcoin on bitcoin sites? Great, but its no different than selling them and buying the stuff with dollars.

What bitcoin needs is more new users who buy bitcoins to conduct trade. That is a real influx of capital, its not the same as existing bitcoin holders spending their coins. The latter is if anything, more likely to produce an exodus of capital if the bitcoin merchant cash out (since they buy their good and services with dollars most likely).

Current bitcoin users buying, selling or hoarding coins is not what will advance (or destroy) bitcoin. Reaching a bigger public is what will make or break bitcoins.
2817  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Technical Support / Re: GPU Operating Temperature? on: September 27, 2011, 09:29:54 AM
If it's below 75 degrees Celsius then I should be good Smiley

You should be good provided your VRMs arent burning... generally its a lot easier to keep the gpu cool than the vrms.

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What about the placement of the Cooling fans? Any suggestions on that?

Not really. Not without knowing anything else, even if this is open air rig, closed case, what kind of case, ambient temps, whats in it or anything there isnt much to say.  How about "cooling fans is good" Smiley
2818  Bitcoin / Pools / Re: [~30 GH/s PPLNS] BitMinter.com *** 150 BTC promotion! * 6-11% MORE BITCOINS *** on: September 27, 2011, 09:20:36 AM
I pointed my rat rig to bitcoin.cz pool, and got some results that may shed more light on it, as for some reason its more verbose.:



It does get disconnected, but reconnects with the next block? Since that pool is much larger than bitminter,  that happens every x minutes as compared to every x days on bitminter, so it keeps working. Not sure. The last disconnection seems have been fixed without a change in block.
2819  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Technical Support / Re: GPU Operating Temperature? on: September 27, 2011, 09:00:26 AM
lower is always better. 75C is my upper treshold, but they can survive higher temps, it will just reduce their life expectancy.

Im generally more concerned about the temperatures of the VRM though. These voltage regulators get much hotter than the core itself. Most non reference designs dont allow monitoring those temps, but you could try, just grab GPU-Z and see if you can monitor them.

FWIW, with stock cooling, at default clocks for my 5850 (725 MHz)  I got 80+C on the GPU and 95+C  on the VRMs. Im now using an accelero twin turbo, which dropped my GPU temp to 50C and VRMs to 80C even overclocked to 850MHz. Waiting for VRM R5 cooler for the VRMs before I go any higher and start overvolting.
2820  Bitcoin / Pools / Re: [~30 GH/s PPLNS] BitMinter.com *** 150 BTC promotion! * 6-11% MORE BITCOINS *** on: September 27, 2011, 08:10:09 AM
Restarted the rat rig this morning, and again after a (short) while, its  not getting any shares confirmed:



Note this screenshot was taken after 10:00 am, so an hour and a half after the last confirmed share. It hasnt crashed or anything, MH rate is fluctuating, gpu load 100%, just not getting any accepted (or rejected) shares. Im confused.
Ill try another pool and see what happens. Maybe the nv card is buggered?
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