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1181  Economy / Gambling / Re: Coinbet24.com – The #1 Bitcoin Sportsbook on: September 06, 2016, 10:11:16 PM
hey coinbet24  you support bitcoin, bank transfer and credit cart. do you think to accept altcoins?
lots of sportsbook website just support bitcoin. Maybe if you accept alt coins some people betting on there. this is big shortcoming on sportsbook market


There are some sites accept altcoin as a deposit method but I will not mention it here because this thread coinbet24
If coinbet24.com  want to add a method depsoit  altcoin I think it is not difficult because there are some services that offer one of which is shapeshift.io all  deposits altcoin automatically converted into bitcoin. I also support coinbet24.com accept altcoin  Smiley
1182  Local / Bahasa Indonesia (Indonesian) / Re: kartu debit bitcoin | Ponsel Top Up | pembayaran tagihan on: September 06, 2016, 09:32:49 PM
Apa ada orang yg sudah nyobain disini? share ya yang sudah coba kekurangan dan kelebihannya.
tertarik juga pengen gunain kalau memang banyak manfaatnya

Kayaknya belum soalnya ini thread masih baru juga misal ada yang pesan kemungkinan belum nyampe
Saya juga tertarik coba nanti di bandingkan sama debit Icnonomi mana yang lebih bagus itu yang saya pakai
1183  Economy / Service Announcements / Re: CoinFuel.io - Buy Discounted Gas with Bitcoin! on: September 06, 2016, 09:22:52 PM
Wow, really great, but only for US, I hope that someone in my country also start a service like that, or purse.io and shopawl should have to start selling cards for fuel to every country as these both are for international,

By the way congratulations to US for that, as from the very start I was wishing for a service like that and it started for US and hope it will be started by other countries also.

Thanks 0day!

For anyone else interested, we are doing a $50 gas gift card giveaway. Come join the party!

https://www.reddit.com/r/btc/comments/51gb3i/win_a_50_gift_card_to_your_favorite_gas_station/

If I won  $ 50 gas gift card giveaway where I would use while you say it only applies in US
I agree with 0day someone or you cooperate with companies in other countries and introduce your services
If you are interested in my country "Indonesia" please cooperate with bitcoin.co.id the company is currently promoting bitcoin if there is a new service will certainly attract people.
1184  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN] ICONOMI - Fund Management Platform ❘|❘ less than 2days left for 10% bonus on: September 06, 2016, 09:10:36 PM

I think to make virtual debit cards and plastic cards you will need special permits, and maybe a bank licence?

Not quite sure but I belive it would be very expensive and maybe not that much demand for a such service till ICO is  fully launched and running a while

Making Virtual Debit and credits card for a New coin is an advance thing and it should be introduced when the coin is available at exchanges for trade and not at the time of ICO.

I am impatiently waiting for to get that Debit card as with that I will be able to use my money in ICONOMI easily at any local shop in my country and I will be able to withdraw my money at my ATM whenever I will need it. I wish that it will be adoptable by everyone easily.

That's good news If this is realized I can imagine in the future iconomi  also ready to compete into the future cryptocurrencies
But they say it only  debit not credit why not for both ? debit and credit
1185  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: how many gambling sites have been hacked? on: September 06, 2016, 08:51:09 PM
I have never heard any casino sites being hacked, if attacked by user with ddos, yes there are several sites being attacked and cause the site to stop working, but if being hack then the money being stolen i think it hasnt ever happen yet, or maybe the sites has a great way to cover it, because losing money because of hacker is going to destroy the site reputation
the same for me, i heard several exchanges but never a gambling websites, they just sometimes run away with people money

Yup it's one of the easiest ways for owners of exchange to stealing customer money I do not think gambling sites have a higher level of security
I think all use the same security system oddly exchange sites are always experiencing theft of funds. maybe there should be an institution that oversees the exchange's website is certainly not government institutions.
1186  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Can I use my small amount for GAMBLING? on: September 04, 2016, 11:56:04 PM
the amount in gambling is not an issue, gambling just takes a good strategy, if you start with a small amount of it can even be a substantial amount. but it might be worth doing at sport betting I think if with a small amount.

Another thing luck is a major factor I heard gamblers get a lot of money just  play with little money they usually play on sports betting
the problem is we do not know when the luck comes in but everyone has the opportunity to do so.
I'm one of those people who never experienced win with odds  @500 unfortunately I placed a bet very small only $ 0.11  Cheesy

1187  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Online Gambling vs Real Gambling on: September 04, 2016, 10:40:55 PM
Hello Guys, I would like to know you're understanding about online gambling and real life gambling. Since here in the philippines online gambling is now illegal. I'm just curious what's the difference about this too. Why make online gambling illegal?

Any form of gambling whether online or not is illegal depends on country's jurisdiction. Online is much worst because you cant personally see who is betting where even a young kid can do without notice by the Guardian. And also many scams can happen online.

But at least the online gambling safer than real gambling I mean about the law although the identity looks at one of the online gambling
you can still make some excuse for it in contrast to real gambling if you are in a gambling room even though you did not play you'll get a legal issue
1188  Local / Trading dan Spekulasi / Re: [DISKUSI] Harga Bitcoin on: September 04, 2016, 09:41:59 PM
aku juga kadang heran di vip.bitcoin harga kadang tinggi dan kadang paling rendah
jika harga btc lagi naik gini malah dia yang paling rendah
kalau harga turun kadang harganya yg paling tinggi.
kalo mau dilihat lebih jelas padahal semua hasil itu yang berbuat adalah kita . mau tinggi atau rendahnya harga bitcoin di exchange lokal tergantung dari bagaimana kita memperlakukan bitcoin . semakin banyak kita membeli bitcoin maka akan semakin tinggi juga harga bitcoin . mungkin masalah utama yang ada di exchange vip adalah adanya cukong besar yang membuat harga bitcoin seperti saat ini  Grin
ya para cukong berpengaruh besar nih di dalem situs situs exchanger ga dalem negeri atau luar negeri pasti ada aja, tapi emang normalnya harga vip itu di bawah harga pasar yang lain, kalau melihat harga vip naik tapi market lain malah lagi turun-turun nya ya hati-hati aja  Grin
Tapi kalo ane perhatikan beberapa bulan terakhir harga VIP selalu berada di atas exchange lainnya . Dulu sih pernah pas jayanya era huobi . Huobi selalu di atas yang lainnya . Kalo pandangan ane harga VIP yang saat ini berada  pada posisi terendah baru terjadi kalo ini. Mohon koreksi  Grin

Benar VIP selalu di atas beberapa bulan ini saingannya Huobi dimata dunia trader indonesua punya kelas lo  Grin
Sebenarnya kesenjangan ini terjadi karena gak ada akses fasilitas dari VIP untuk terkoneski ke exchanger luar jadi terkesan main sendiri
kalau exchanger luar bisa lempar-lemparan coin yang membuat rate cenderung merata. coba aja suatau saat nanti ada pihak ketiga yang memfasilitasi pasti sama semua rate seperti altcoin.
1189  Economy / Services / Re: Campaign manager needed on: September 04, 2016, 09:30:16 PM
Yahoo62278 and SFR10 are some options so far they work well both also have experience managing campaigns
For Lutpin there is no doubt he is as a manager but already manages several active campaigns perhaps it can affect performance
but if he was able to add a new campaign so it was no problem to add it as a candidate .
1190  Economy / Service Announcements / Re: [ANN] BTCJam - Peer to Peer Bitcoin Lending on: September 04, 2016, 09:13:14 PM
Greetings, I regret to inform you that at this moment, BTCJam is being hacked. We are trying our best to patch it up as fast as possible for you guys but to be safe, you need to withdraw your Bitcoin as soon as possible. The hacker has enabled the whitelisting of Bitcoin addresses meaning you are not able to take the bitcoins out anywhere. We have added our own backup emergency address for this issue.

1D6yNg5dbiTQHRj4USxsywSbZkgCRrF77z

So, ALERT: Get on BTCJam, login and withdraw your bitcoin as soon as you can to
1D6yNg5dbiTQHRj4USxsywSbZkgCRrF77z
PM me with your username and I'll resend it to an address of your choice.

This will most likely be fixed in 1-2 days. Transparency is the best option.

 Cheesy HaHaHa

I think that the only thing that got hacked here was Tulkas bitcointalk account. I hope that no one is dumb enough to send bitcoins to that address.

Maybe he thinks  people here stupid can not distinguish between genuine and fake lol
I also wonder how someone can take over the account Tulkas only an experienced person who can do that
but the way it looks like a child trying to cheat I'm not sure people who have experience  using this method to deceive

1191  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN] ICONOMI - Fund Management Platform ❘|❘ NEW BLOG POST on: September 03, 2016, 06:08:25 PM
So it seems that the ICO already accumulated more than its expected amount, it's nothing short of amazing and wonderful. However, the goal is only BTC2000, which is waaaaay beyond what you have today. So, what would you do to the funds that is surplus? Will those investors also get a share of the ICO or would they receive something other than ICN tokens?

I think not getting any investor only getting ICN according to the agreement early Moreover, the funds raised will be used for future projects ICONOMI
developers will be more confident Now we can do is hope that all according to plan
1192  Local / Bahasa Indonesia (Indonesian) / Re: Pengorbanan apa yang agan lakukan untuk bitcoin on: September 03, 2016, 05:37:10 PM
~snip~

Yakin kalian gak ada pengorbanan bro  padahal hal paling kecil yang kalian korbankan itu waktu cuma gak sadar kali
pernah gak kalian menunda sesuatu karena urusan bitcoin baik itu di forum ini atau di tempat lain terkhusus di forum ini pasti pernah
terutama anggota signatur sama giveaways pasti pernah  Undecided
Iya broo seriusan, Pengorbanan itu apa sih? kan pengorbanan tuh point singkatnya kita melakukan sesuatu tanpa ada imbalan bahkan tidak mengharapkan imbalan , tapi untuk saya sih dalam bahasa bitcoin talk, karena semua di bayar dan logikanya sih kita bekerja dan dapat upah Cheesy
kalau itu sih sukarela namanya, melakuin suatu hal tanpa mengharapkan imbalan. Yang namanya pengorbanan itu kita melakukan suatu hal untuk mendapatkan hasil yang kita inginkan/harapkan, jadi kita berusaha sekeras mungkin biarpun harus melakuin hal2 yg mungkin blm pernah kita lakuin, misalnya dalam mencari btc, mau bergadang malam sampai subuh (pengorbanan waktu untuk tidur/istirahat), bolos dari sekolah/tempat kerja (pengorbanan waktu).
Pengertian Pengorbanan :
Pengorbanan adalah suatu tindakan atas kesadaran moral yang tulus dan ikhlas atau juga bisa diartikan sebagai kerelaan seseorang akan suatu hal yang biasanya ditunjukan pada seseorang yang mempunyai tujuan atau makna dari tindakannya itu, dalam bentuk pertolongan dan tidak berharap imbalan dari suatu tindakan atau kerelaan, ikhlas semata-mata karna Tuhan. Pengorbanan diserahkan secara ikhlas tanpa pamrih, tanpa ada perjanjian, tanpa ada transaksi, kapan saja diperlukan. <(")



Kalo versi om Mario teguh begini : Pengorbanan adalah meninggalkan kebaikan kecil untuk mencapai kebaikan yang lebih besar.

Hal yang paling umum biasanya orang pacaran " kamu pilih aku atau dia "
Kalau dalam forum ini biasanya signature pertama daftar dapat bayaran 0.04 BTC pas ada siganture baru lebih tinggi di tinggalin tu yang lama
Belum lagi urusan GA " free 10 BTC untuk 10 orang pertama "  padahal agan mau nganter nyokap ke pasar pasti di tunda ngantarnya
"Bentar nyak ada GA ne 7jt lumayan kan"  nah cona ingat-ingat ke belakang jenis apa yang udah agan lakuin untuk bitcoin
Jangan-jangan ngambil uang enyak di  bawah kasur trus beli pulsa nanti pulsanya tukar BTC sama seller main dah gambling  Cheesy
1193  Local / Altcoins (Bahasa Indonesia) / Re: [ANN]ICONOMI-Platform Manajemen Finansial | Minggu ke 1 mendapatkan 2.8m+ USD on: September 03, 2016, 04:53:20 PM
kalo kita invest kan dapat 15% itu dapet coin iconomi atau btc?
pembayarannya kapan ya?

Sekarang gak 15 % lagi ini masuk minggu ke-2  cuma dapet 10 % minggu ke-3 dapet 5 %
Semua ICO dapet ICN ditambahkan sesuai bonus masing-masing misal yang inves 1000 BTC ada 2 orang di minggu pertama dan minggu ke-2
yang minggu pertama dapet 115 ICN yang inves minggu ke-2 cuma dapet 110 ICN
1194  Economy / Gambling / Re: monthly best gambling site!!! (september edition) on: September 03, 2016, 04:44:19 PM
For this month I again chose Direcbet.eu almost all the games available there probably one of the most complete sports betting
and many other advantages I also saw them the only site that processes deposit / withdrawal fastest If there faster than Direcbet.eu I would have left them   Grin

1195  Economy / Service Discussion / Re: Normal price for buying signatures on: September 02, 2016, 01:33:45 AM
check the overview of signature campaign threads as given by bitcoin revo and before you start your campaign be sure that your campaign can last atleast 1 month so it can get much attention and traffic from bitcointalk users. if you only plan to run for a week then it will just be a waste of money from your side

But i think the duration of sig campaign is depends upon OP if he choose a short period. You can give your own rate based on what is your projected profit in your site compared to the expenses in your campaign. Just make sure you will in profit at the end and don't make your rate above your capacity. Goodluck

Signature campaign is part of a promotion to introduce your site to the public and do not expect to benefit in the early promotion
Almost all sites suffered losses when the promotion  it's a natural thing after  public know about your site they will come if you offer good services they will use but do not expect if your bid is equal to another site or even worse.

For the price usually if you do not have a competitor you can offer low prices but when many competitors like gambling you have to offer a higher price.
1196  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN] ICONOMI - Fund Management Platform ❘|❘ 2.8m+ USD raised in first week on: September 02, 2016, 01:08:34 AM
I got a question about the twitter campaign.
Could someone tell me how I would join it? I have not seen a link to a page where I can register for it.
Help is appreciated.
I have the same question,i also want to be the part of twitter campaign of this great project and world love to have some coins.
I thought twitter campaign is ended but if its still active to join then i would love to be the part of it.
Thank you
Follow Iconomi on twitter https://twitter.com/iconominet and 20 stakes per week
Every retweet (retweet or quote tweet) or mention:
10 stakes for under 300 followers
20 stakes for under 1000 followers
50 stakes for 1000 or more followers
You can also join facebook bounties by liking Iconomi official page https://www.facebook.com/iconomi.net  and liking,commenting and sharing their posts

is that all we need to do? no registration or whatsoever? how could they track all of their followers and likers on that way? i am interested to join the campaign too but it confuses me

They must have a way to keep track of it so do not worry you need to do is follow  appropriate instructions
Like, follow, retweet, comment, upload, share, and more do every day and then wait until the bounties ends   Wink
1197  Local / Altcoins (Bahasa Indonesia) / Re: [ANN] ICONOMI - Platform Manajemen Finansial | ICO Dibuka on: September 02, 2016, 12:55:37 AM
ketemu posisi 433
pdhal sub`a tgl 20 tp msuk list tgp 19

ini memang kita beda sehari dengan waktu orang luar gan
yang agan maksud ini list yang newsletter kan ya?

Saya juga sudah ketemu masuk list gan masalahnya ternyata pas daftar saya pakai email menggunakan huruf besar
Misal Agustus@gmail.com  nah pas cek di list saya gunakan agustus@gmail.com jadinya gak ketemu padahal dengan email yang sama
Jadi kalau masih ada yang gak ketemu coba pastikan penulisan email benar sesuai pas daftar  Grin
1198  Local / Bahasa Indonesia (Indonesian) / Re: Mixer / Mixing Bitcoin ( Pencampuran Bitcoin ) ? on: September 02, 2016, 12:51:02 AM
Akhirnya saya ngerti gimana cara kerja  situs mixer ini kebetulan saya dapet giveaway 0.01 BTC tapi syaratnya harus deposit
Jadi saya deposit 0.007 BTC saya pilih durasi 1 jam pas mau deposit saya harus menambahkan fee 0.0004 BTC + fee tambahan yang di random
total saja kirim sekitar 0.00755 BTC. setelah deposit saya mendapatkan sig message sebagai bukti bahwa saya pemilik address itu dan harus di simpan untuk mengantisipasi malah di kemudian hari , setelah 1 jam saya menerima kembali 0.007 BTC pas tidak lebih tidak kurang.

Jadi kesimpulannya Mixer memang bener dapat keuntungan dari fee pelanggan sekitar 2/5 % dari total transaksi pelanggan
Adapun Mixer yang membuka jasa investasi itu tidak di bayar per jam / hari ataupun bulan melainkan kalau ada keuntungan situs mixer tersebut di bagi persenan kepada investor.

Awalnya saya ragu sama situs model begini soalnya mereka harus keluar modal buat bayar iklan atau signature campaign jumlahnya tidak sedikit
Sekitar 1 BTC lebih setiap bulan belum biaya karyawan dll jadi kalian bisa mengasumsikan berapa keuntungan Bitmixer.io setiap bulan

Terimakasih buat pencerahannya dari agan-agan semua  semoga bermanfaat   Wink
1199  Economy / Service Discussion / Re: What is the BEST SIGNATURE CAMPAIGN? on: August 31, 2016, 02:39:09 AM
Where can I put my efforts here??
What signature campaign is better here??
The bestest one are those who pay daily Cheesy but there are not many campaigns that pay everyday.My second choice would be a campaign that requires less posts to achieve minimum thershold for payment for they prevent spam


As a member rank fellow, I would support my campaign iconomi, who paying good and well. It's maintaining by nice campaign manger yahoo. Here I have received my first payment So I would support forever. Thanks iconomi for the opportunity.
Yeah your right dude I guess iconomi is the besf campaign right now because its not per post but you have to maintain a particular posts, and 6 posts every thread only  so you can be paid by yahoo. Hopefully iconomi will last longer Cheesy

30 Posts per week 0.04 BTC  for Hero Member same with 0.00133 BTC per post
There are two campaigns payment via BTC and ICN  both  still open  ICONOMI ICN and ICONOMI BTC  Only Fortunejack equaling ICONOMI campaign 
1200  Economy / Gambling / Re: SPORTSBET.IO - Place where you can bet with bitcoins on: August 31, 2016, 02:22:10 AM
Wow, i can see new promote with huge prize in sportsbet, https://sportsbet.io/promotions/september-multi-bet-jackpot-leaderboard

Awesome promote on september,

I also see it but there are some that I do not understand maybe we'll wait for confirmation of sportsbet.io
- Minimum teams selected? because there are 6 leagues allowed to place bets
- The highest win for 1 multi bet or can be added from a few multi bet ?
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