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361  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: November 17, 2014, 12:30:46 PM
What I'm saying is there's a link between Bitcoin market cap and market cap of companies that deal exclusively or mainly in Bitcoin. So that if there were twenty (hell, ten or five would be sufficient as well due to synergy and other factors besides companies) Coinbases and they were valued the same, then one can definitely argue that Bitcoin is undervalued.

It should be relatively analogous to any national currency, or perhaps gold. If all the companies who have to do exclusively with gold would be worth as much as all the gold in the world, that would be pretty insane, no?
362  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: November 17, 2014, 12:17:05 PM

Correct. The title's implied conclusion, that BTC is undervalued, from the Coinbase valuation is probably not valid.

Coinbase @400M USD, just as a standalone statement, is however pretty bullish Smiley
It's absolutely valid IMO. The commenters on r/bitcoin have their mind clouded by the bear market the same way it was clouded during the rise. I'm surprised at the reaction, but at the same time glad that the sentiment is so bearish because it shows how much potential there's left for the move, even within the context of what could be a bear market rally.

The whole just has to be greater than the sum of its parts, the whole being the BTC asset/numeraire and the parts being exclusively Bitcoin dealing companies.

The argument that Coinbase is valued much more highly because it could survive a Bitcoin death but carry on with other cryptocurrencies is a joke: Go to coinmarketcap.com and look at the rest. The market isn't very worried about the contenders. Plus, even if Bitcoin were to die, this would definitely reduce the value of whatever usurping cryptocurrency there is, and thus the value of Coinbase. So, the risk of Bitcoin dying isn't negated for Coinbase investors, only reduced at best.
363  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: November 17, 2014, 02:46:01 AM
Damn. https://www.reddit.com/r/Bitcoin/comments/2mh7dk/valuations_coinbase_400_mil_bitcoin_4000_mil_so/
364  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: November 15, 2014, 05:42:17 PM
...snip...

Blitz, you realise the Shroomskit account is used by (and this is an IIRC from a Shroomskit post months back) four different people (shared house? company) -- which explains the lack of consistency and distinct personality changes in posts every few days/hours.  And none of them give a fuck about what the others post.

So, keep posting this is a bit like posting Parashat ha-Shavua to prove the Pope is Catholic. Save your time/bandwidth.

He's lying to hide his shame. Just have a look at his writing styles/personas and you'll see they're consistent.
365  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: November 15, 2014, 03:00:54 PM

I will leave this place soon. Bitcoin is dead, it's only down from here and i sold everything i got quite a while ago so there is nothing for me here anymore.
I tried to help the few delusional bulls who just won't give up but they don't appreciate my warnings very much. Ah well, your money. I don't care really.
I'll come back every 50 dollar drop for some entertainment. So long and thanks for buying my coins at 400. Poor schmucks.

Good luck with your pump and dump coin.

I feel sorry for all the idiots who sold at these ridiculous prices and i will laugh at all the bears who will get caught in trap after trap the coming weeks.

The only winners are the holders (like me) and the people who pick up the last cheap coins while they can.

We're going up and it's confirmed!
366  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: November 13, 2014, 11:19:40 PM
The Chinese are waking up.
367  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: November 13, 2014, 08:44:21 PM
Today is Thursday, the day the criminals had to leave Bitstamp or else have their funds seized. Completely forgot about that.

Yet Bitstamp had one of the lowest prices amongst the big public exchanges during the pump. How should we interpret this?
That despite Bitstamp's bullishness, the crazy Chinese degenerate gamblers are even more bullish than criminals fleeing and securing their money? Cheesy
368  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: November 13, 2014, 08:37:35 PM
Today is Thursday, the day the criminals had to leave Bitstamp or else have their funds seized. Completely forgot about that.
369  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: November 13, 2014, 06:49:27 PM
Freakin' hedge fund is pumping and dumping on OKcoin, bleeding minnows dry. Bow to the new masters... Angry
Fucking idiot hedge funds!

I didn't say they are idiots, just that they are bleeding the minnows with their pump and dump. And don't tell me it doesn't look like pump and dump.
I would like to see bitcoin price less dependent on mainland China exchanges, you seem to like the new masters. Sad
"[Fucking] idiot xyz" is to make fun of the idiot shroomsy. Cheesy

I don't like the new masters, I kept wishing the China cancer would be killed off by the PBOC, but it never happened. Angry
370  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: November 13, 2014, 05:47:29 PM
Freakin' hedge fund is pumping and dumping on OKcoin, bleeding minnows dry. Bow to the new masters... Angry
Fucking idiot hedge funds!
371  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: November 13, 2014, 12:51:17 PM
I do know of one particular trader:

I will leave this place soon. Bitcoin is dead, it's only down from here and i sold everything i got quite a while ago so there is nothing for me here anymore.
I tried to help the few delusional bulls who just won't give up but they don't appreciate my warnings very much. Ah well, your money. I don't care really.
I'll come back every 50 dollar drop for some entertainment. So long and thanks for buying my coins at 400. Poor schmucks.

Good luck with your pump and dump coin.
372  Economy / Speculation / Re: SecondMarket Bitcoin Investment Trust Observer on: November 13, 2014, 12:13:07 PM
-10XBT yesterday. So the 6847XBT on 11 Nov was real
Shocked
373  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: November 13, 2014, 08:31:43 AM
maybe I sound pretty stupid, but can anyone explain me quick  what

that indicator tells me "MACD"
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/MACD

(Ahem, I cannot resist pointing out that I helped edit that article, a few months ago. Smiley)

Glad to see you're finally warming up to technical analysis Tongue

Looking for" reasons " yet for this one? Cheesy
He should be quiet and come up with some post-hoc reasoning as to why the Chinese are pumping the markets. Cheesy Cheesy Cheesy
374  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: November 12, 2014, 11:06:13 PM
I guess the OKcoin hedge fund wants to put the whole 3 billion in BTC haha  Grin
Load up the bull FUD cannons!
375  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: November 12, 2014, 10:28:23 PM
Can anyone tell me a reason why Bitcoin shouldn't be worth more than WhatsApp?

21m x 430$ = ~ 9b
Getting close!
We have 13.5 million coins right now.
376  Economy / Speculation / Re: Gold collapsing. Bitcoin UP. on: November 12, 2014, 09:43:12 PM
Sidechains irrelevant, Bitcoin UP.
377  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: November 12, 2014, 08:40:25 PM
Nice one to the idiots bears shorting with my coins on finex. Thanks for the interest!

How much do you make a day? 3 dollars? In return you're giving the bears the fuel to take the price down making your coins worth less. Well done.
WELL DONE YOU FUCKING IDIOT TRADER DUMPER LENDER!



I will leave this place soon. Bitcoin is dead, it's only down from here and i sold everything i got quite a while ago so there is nothing for me here anymore.
I tried to help the few delusional bulls who just won't give up but they don't appreciate my warnings very much. Ah well, your money. I don't care really.
I'll come back every 50 dollar drop for some entertainment. So long and thanks for buying my coins at 400. Poor schmucks.

Good luck with your pump and dump coin.

I feel sorry for all the idiots who sold at these ridiculous prices and i will laugh at all the bears who will get caught in trap after trap the coming weeks.

The only winners are the holders (like me) and the people who pick up the last cheap coins while they can.

We're going up and it's confirmed!
378  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: November 12, 2014, 08:16:48 PM
Remember remember,

5th of October!



Well, 6th on this picture.
379  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: November 12, 2014, 08:06:08 PM
Can anyone tell me a reason why Bitcoin shouldn't be worth more than WhatsApp?
380  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: November 12, 2014, 06:45:30 PM
Just keep this in mind:

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