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1141  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: March 06, 2014, 12:48:27 PM
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"He is very wary of government interference in general," she says. "When I was little, there was a game we used to play. He would say, 'Pretend the government agencies are coming after you.' And I would hide in the closet."
1142  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: March 06, 2014, 12:07:07 PM
Well, everyone with funds stuck at Emptygox, you now know who to contact to bail you out. Cheesy Cheesy Cheesy
1143  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: March 05, 2014, 03:55:20 PM
What a mystery. I don't know what else could have been the source of leak on my email if not Bitstamp. It began in mid February.

Though I'm still pretty sure it is Bitstamp's fault, I'll withhold final judgement for now until we get some explanation for why only a subset of users is affected.
1144  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: March 05, 2014, 03:45:49 PM
Actually, the OP that eleuthria replies to, is much clearer evidence since he claims to have used a unique email specific to Bitstamp only.

Interesting to know we have 3 people here who did NOT receive them (and probably checked spam folders). It would be good to get to the bottom of this. Maybe ask hazek.
1145  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: March 05, 2014, 03:38:14 PM
Rule of thumb: If lots of noise is made and Bitstamp does not officially deny the accusation, it is probably true. Cheesy
1146  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: March 05, 2014, 03:36:20 PM
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I informed Bitstamp that they had at least a breach on their email list, if not the rest of their system. At first they denied it, but in a follow up they eventually admitted to it.

I think if eleuthria is to be trusted, then there is probably no question in it. Furthermore, Bitstamp themselves distributed email warnings of phishers I think shortly afterwards. It's possible that only a part of the mails were leaked, or that somehow yours wasn't sent to.

If we do some digging, maybe we can get it officially from a Bitstamp rep.
1147  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: March 05, 2014, 03:27:31 PM
Perhaps I am being a little harsh with the exchanges; clearly they are the first attempts by hobbyists and we needed them in the very beginning. But now, we have moved on to a stage where we cannot afford to have experimental exchanges – perhaps even having such exchanges out there with the highest volume is detrimental nowadays. What is sorely needed is professionals who already have experience building financial infrastructure. Wall Street, not basement geek.


Bitstamp leaked their customer email addresses by the way, that's why all the new phishing attempts. Reminiscent of Emptygox 2011. Fuck all the operating major Bitcoin exchanges.

This is just getting stupid. After Im confident of the reversal and fairly sure its choo choo time Im getting all of my funds off exchanges and not trading until im confident in a competent exchange.
I have Bitstamp verified account and I never received the gox scam mail neither the btcguild scam mail or any other bitcoin related scam or spam. I don't think those are connected.
Same here regarding the Bitstamp account, plus my email was not leaked before all this and I only got those mails fairly recently, so I am near certain of eleuthria's conclusion. Have you checked your spam folder? Gmail for example has excellent spam filtering.
1148  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: March 05, 2014, 03:15:28 PM
argh ok ty blitz. we only have ourselves to blame for keeping our shit in these exchanges.
It's not like there are any good alternatives. All of them are shit.

We'll probably have to wait until there are US based exchanges registered as MSB in all states.
1149  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: March 05, 2014, 03:09:08 PM
Bitstamp leaked their customer email addresses by the way, that's why all the new phishing attempts. Reminiscent of Emptygox 2011. Fuck all the operating major Bitcoin exchanges.

source?
Eleuthria, admin of the BTCGuild mining pool, did the research on it: http://www.reddit.com/r/Bitcoin/comments/1zaqvy/bitstamp_email_list_used_to_spread_mtgox_malware/cfs21qr

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Bitstamp's email list was confirmed stolen ~2 weeks ago, when a boatload of emails claiming to be from support@btcguild.com (but not sent from any of the BTC Guild mail servers) went out talking about a 3.201 bitcoin transfer. After replying to the people shouting at me for being a scammer, I was eventually able to narrow the source of the leak to Bitstamp at the very least, and likely a few other sources on top of it.

I informed Bitstamp that they had at least a breach on their email list, if not the rest of their system. At first they denied it, but in a follow up they eventually admitted to it.

They then sent out a little security update email mentioning 2FA/password security.

TL;DR:

FUCK EMPTYGOX
FUCK BITCRAMP
AND FUCK BTC-PEE TOO
1150  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: March 05, 2014, 03:01:53 PM
Bitstamp leaked their customer email addresses by the way, that's why all the new phishing attempts. Reminiscent of Emptygox 2011. Fuck all the operating major Bitcoin exchanges.
1151  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: March 05, 2014, 01:43:47 PM
Updating things live, eh? What particular business does that remind me of? Cheesy Cheesy Cheesy
1152  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: March 03, 2014, 06:33:19 PM
You guys have a delusional perception of what a bear is. I told you a week ago that the reversal was in and I had gone bull.  But now if I don't support the mission of going to all the way to ATH in one day, then I am being "bearish"...
Did you ever notice that trader rhymes with traitor?
1153  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: March 03, 2014, 05:52:55 PM
GOX death is hurting BTC so bad  Cry
Cheesy
1154  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: March 03, 2014, 08:40:57 AM
Lose >99% BTC
Lose >40% fiat
Lose database along with customer identity data

Well, Emptygox couldn't possibly have done a much worse job than this.

The statement is a joke. How come they did not realize until a few days ago that there was a huge discrepancy between the money they were holding in their bank and the money deposited by their customers?

You all know this is BS and simply cannot happen. They knew very well they had less than they were supposed to, they just decided to run on fractional reserve and spent customers money to cover their own operational expenses. I wouldn't be surprised if Karpeles even cashed out dividends at some point while knowing the company was virtually bankrupt.



He doesn't need dividend. Just by insider trading and arbitraging he would have earned a lot.

According to sturle they "didn't need" to run on fractional reserve as they did "so much money" in fees that they could have covered ANY hole caused by seizures, misappropriations and whatnot.

My reply: never underestimate greed and incompetence. Bad management can destroy the biggest company in the world.
Yes, hopefully authorities will do a good job on investigating that angle. It isn't credible that they didn't notice the fiat hole before.
1155  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: March 03, 2014, 07:23:56 AM
bitcoinbuilder rallied to 0.107 hahaha. that can't last long.
If bitcoinbuilder went to 0.9, how many people would be able to sell at this price? Bitcoinbuilder is now a fake market because noone can possibly sell at their price EXCEPT those who have already transfered their goxBTC over to bitcoinbuilder before the close.

You can tell just by looking at the extremely low volumes. Plus, I believe the bitcoinbuilder admin is taking a 4% fee on each trade, and the 2% realBTC side he converts into goxBTC he claims, so effectively he is subsidizing it.
1156  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: March 03, 2014, 07:16:38 AM
Lose >99% BTC
Lose >40% fiat
Lose database along with customer identity data

Well, Emptygox couldn't possibly have done a much worse job than this.
1157  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: March 02, 2014, 07:35:01 AM
Meanwhile, goxcoin rallies on builder. lol
It's a ghost market. Noone can sell his goxBTC except for those who withdrew before the site went down. In addition, builder takes 4% off each trade. Naturally the volume dwindles into nothingness.
1158  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: February 26, 2014, 05:03:42 AM
Look at all this fresh fiat money on Bitstamp. And look at this lack of coins.

I was expecting to come back and reply to you saying not to get carried away and post the current bid/ask depth stats,

but.. wow! Bid sum is up 10m USD in 2 days and ask sum is down 8k BTC.

Thats an improvement from 500USD/BTC (bid depth) to 1375USD/BTC

I've been out of the loop for a while.  Where are you seeing this info?
http://coinsight.org/bitstamp
1159  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: February 26, 2014, 04:41:57 AM
I wonder if any of those funds have stored BTC on Emptygox and are now looking to replace them.
1160  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: February 26, 2014, 04:38:53 AM
Look at all this fresh fiat money on Bitstamp. And look at this lack of coins.
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