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1221  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: February 25, 2014, 02:08:57 AM
They managed to lose all but 2k BTC before noticing. Wow.
1222  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: February 25, 2014, 02:02:57 AM
Game over, Emptygox. It's good to see that they at least did have a plan in the end, although unfortunately it will not work.

Completely unfathomable however that they did not notice getting robbed 1) this much 2) over this long a time period.
1223  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: February 25, 2014, 01:26:40 AM
This forum has officially gone to shit.

Enjoy yourselves. I'm outta here. Not that I will be missed by many, but I wish you all the best.

You might see me again on the next upswing or if they decide to reenact newbie restrictions. Au Revoir.
Don't go. Just start using the report button. I can barely keep up reading everything.
1224  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: February 25, 2014, 01:01:01 AM
You know that the 300 died in the end?
1225  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: February 24, 2014, 11:44:38 PM
I hope everyone is set up in such a way that he can continue on without Emptygox.
1226  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: February 24, 2014, 01:57:06 PM
Thank you for your corporation.
1227  Economy / Speculation / Re: Max Keiser Predicts $750-$800 This Coming Week on: February 23, 2014, 11:59:29 PM
People taking Max seriously and not counting him as an utter scamming cunt are idiots.
I can only agree with this.
1228  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: February 23, 2014, 10:30:33 AM
Strange how everyone enjoys watching the logical crash but cries about the inevitable rise.
People have built up a serious emotional investment in wanting to see MtGox die, and I feel that they are associating this with a price of 0. They probably also can't handle how MtGox leads the other exchanges in direction. All this anger and hate was really quite incredible to watch, I'm quite certain that it has contributed to bad decision making.
1229  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: February 23, 2014, 10:19:29 AM
If gox does fix withdrawals, there will be two groups of people on gox after this:

1. Those who panic sold at the lower prices, lost everything, are jaded, and may never come back to bitcoin again.

2. The traders who suckered the money out of group#1, are sitting on a ton of coins at MASSIVE profits, and will take their profits on bitstamp where fiat withdrawals are more reputable.
It's quite sad how easily manipulated people are in their emotions (one of which has been anger, btw) and give in to a narrative that is simply the greatest bullshit ever told: That an immovable mtgoxUSD has 4-5x the value of a semi-liquid mtgoxBTC, or phrased differently, that the mtgoxUSD/mtgoxBTC rate is at all reflective of a possible insolvency on the exchange's part.

One only needs to look at r/bitcoin, from there it is easy to figure out which cliff the masses are jumping off next. Herd mentality is hazardous for the wallet.
1230  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: February 23, 2014, 09:58:48 AM
1. Curse Gox
2. Thank Gox

I'll thank them as soon as I can withdrawal.
I was talking about Bitstamp and all other markets. MtGox has been the clear market leader here both down and now up.
1231  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: February 23, 2014, 09:53:10 AM
The horrible realization from people who sold near double digits that mtgoxUSD is actually as bad, if not worse, than mtgoxBTC. Cheesy Cheesy Cheesy
1232  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: February 23, 2014, 09:40:05 AM
1. Curse Gox
2. Thank Gox
1233  Economy / Speculation / Re: Warning: How many of you Bears have ever been a victim of a Short Squeeze? on: February 23, 2014, 08:13:37 AM
If Emptygox opens up BTC withdrawals even at a limited rate, we could well see this baby shoot from 90 to 900. Cheesy
1234  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: February 23, 2014, 08:12:20 AM
Well Gox is started to do some transactions. The nature of those transactions I do not know. But they are doing something.
I wouldn't infer that solely from the price. As far as I can see, there is absolutely nothing fundamentally new.
1235  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: February 22, 2014, 11:49:06 PM
I always have in the back of my head that the SecondMarket trust is going liquid "no later than March 2014". We're almost there.. will they sell?
Are they Bitcoin cultists?
1236  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: February 22, 2014, 11:37:32 PM
Gox leads and Stamp follows like the good dog it is. Cheesy
1237  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: February 22, 2014, 11:16:22 PM
gmaxwell has done a blockchain analysis and wasn't able to find out, so I expect there is no way to know for anyone but MtGox management. If an attacker has exploited it only in recent weeks, then the upper limit was about 70k BTC (such a loss they could likely stomach with what I believe is a 6 digit BTC reserve of their own though). If it was really exploited for a long time, then who knows, it depends solely on how MtGox has checked cold storage funds against the user balances and how early they noticed a difference.

Another thing to consider is that there is currently still inflow and outflow in fiat money from MtGox. Inflow any currency/deposit method and outflow is limited to SEPA/JPY, severely limited also in value as well as time. It could well be that MtGox is receiving a net inflow of funds and thus, if it operates a fractional reserve, it would serve to lower the percentage of the missing reserve.
1238  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: February 22, 2014, 11:05:53 PM
Am I the only one who noticed that the Gox bottom really does look like an ass?
It does indeed look like a classic double bottom, though I don't dare predict anything about MtGox because I don't understand the reason for the fall's magnitude in the first place (you can look up my thinking two posts ago) and there have been a few promising bottoms that failed. But it's possible that double digit is a psychologically especially strong support here, along with the fact that we've bounced off the long-term lower log support trendline.

My internet connection is fucked for the time being, so I am using the internet with bare minimum, it's a shame I didn't get to see the MtGox ramp on clarkmoody.
1239  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: February 22, 2014, 10:56:21 PM
wind, the rise was on the same air that the fall was on. There are good arguments for why a a goxBTC is worth much more than just 20-25% of a goxUSD at real market USD/BTC rates (of course, this factor could change to the downside as well …). Furthermore, Emptygox can come out of their holes anytime and say or do something unexpected which even if it turns out hot air as well can do a lot.

So, I wouldn't unconditionally recommend what you said, but it is certainly worth thinking about.
1240  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: February 22, 2014, 10:49:42 PM
This has nothing to do with Bitcoin withdrawals, it's only to do with transfering goxBTC ownership which you can do on MtGox, as you can "withdraw" to an internal MtGox deposit address that somebody else holds.
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