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361  Other / Beginners & Help / Re: PCI only rig (not PCI-E) - possible to mine? on: March 29, 2013, 05:14:14 PM
Thanks for your response.  To be clear, I can buy the converter and then buy a PCI-E video card and it should work in the PCI slot (with the converter attached)?  (realizing you said you didn't have much luck with it...)

Yes. This is what I got: http://www.pc-adapter.net/products/321.html
Though like I said, bought 2, lasted ~4 and 2 months respectively.

You may also want to try first putting the converter in the PCI slot, then putting one of these powered risers in the converter:
http://cablesaurus.com/PCIe-x16-Extender-Cable-w-Molex-Connector

*Then* connect the PCI-E video card to the powered riser. That little white molex connector has to be plugged into a PSU somehow. But like I say, couldn't get that to work at all  Cry whilst at least with an unpowered riser, I got some work out of it.
362  Other / Beginners & Help / Re: PCI only rig (not PCI-E) - possible to mine? on: March 29, 2013, 03:35:56 PM
AFAIK there aren't any PCI cards, or if there are they're extremely ancient and no good for mining.

There *are* PCI->PCIe adapters, but I have had bad luck and/or stupidity with the ones I tried (my first rig has two PCI slots, I use one for the wireless NIC and didn't want the other to go to waste). I ordered an unpowered one, worked fine for about 4 months and then all of a sudden my rig wasn't detecting any card in that slot anymore. Saw no obvious signs of damage on the adapter, the riser or the card. Then I got an adapter with a molex power thingy from Cablesaurus but I couldn't get that to work at all, so I ordered another unpowered adapter (I think they were both on Ebay from a Chinese outfit called Sintech) and that one lasted two months before, again, apparently just ceasing to work with no obvious signs of damage.
363  Economy / Economics / Re: My bank account's got robbed by European Commission. Over 700k is lost. on: March 28, 2013, 06:35:35 PM
IMHO the 700k is blocked as the 128k plus-some are the part that won't be touched.
you will not lose all the 700k, "only" couple of percent.

stop cryin, that's just TAX EVASION catching up to you.



Nitpick: tax avoidance, not evasion. Evasion is illegal, avoidance is just (arguably) unethical.

Whilst I don't generally cry a river for people with huge sums of money who end up somehow having slightly less huge sums of money, I do have much sympathy for the OP in this case. That was a business account - a bunch of people putting their time and talent into providing goods and services for a larger bunch of people. Who are now all fucked.

One thing though: how much of that is really 'blocked' blocked? That amount looks like a helluva lot more %-wise than all the newspapers I've been reading suggested.  Just read "Cyprus Finance Minister: Uninsured Laiki Depositors Could Face 80% Haircut". Well fuck that!

I was earlier going to express my disappointment with the tastelessness and over-the-top-ness of the OP's avatar. But now I can see where they're coming from, so quite frankly, Merkel can suck it.
364  Other / Off-topic / Re: Pope Francis linked to molestation? on: March 28, 2013, 11:27:45 AM
$900? how come? I never understood how these bets work

I expect farlack is simply pointing out how the USD/BTC exchange rate is likely to soar over that timeframe.
365  Economy / Speculation / Re: omfg bitcoin is on newsnight on: March 27, 2013, 09:54:52 PM
Just seen it. Yeah, Paxman, he's gotta be worth +$5 on the Mtgox price all on his own!
And I don't think the 'anti-bitcoin' guy was a muppet. He made reasonable points, but Trace Mayer countered them effectively.
366  Bitcoin / Hardware / Re: My Beef with BFL (Constructive Criticism Only) on: March 27, 2013, 07:33:24 PM
Side note: You wanna cheer for Avalon, because they're so fair and not taking any mining hardware for themselves? Well why would they have to mine when they could sell you a $1500 unit for $6600 (88BTC). A $1500 unit should cost 20BTC, so where are those extra 68BTC going?

It's called profit.  It's what people do when they sell stuff.  If you don't like it, don't buy it - free market at work.


Ugh, I keep seeing this pseudolibertarian bullshit. Look, it is not a free market. It is a monopoly. The two concepts are opposites.

Monopoly: it's my way or the highway.
Free market: people can buy similar products elsewhere.

Monopolies are generally bad, though that need not necessarily mean the monopolist is bad. As in this case, Avalon is the monopoly because they got their shit together and bASIC and (so far) BFL haven't, not because of any anticompetitive practices from Avalon (ironically, BFL tried the anticompetitive shit).
367  Bitcoin / Hardware / Re: Pool fees for an asic users are somewhat amusing on: March 27, 2013, 05:45:20 PM
Don't see what the problem is, 3% (or even 10%) of a lot of money is a lot of money, but 97% (or only 90%) is still much more money. And the pool operator is providing an essential service.

That said, I do think it would be best for Bitcoin if P2Pool can be made ASIC compatible. Decentralisation and all that.
368  Other / Beginners & Help / Re: I made a giant, overpriced mining rig on: March 27, 2013, 05:40:30 PM


I hate you.

Quote from: DeathAndTaxes
I think you could install a couple of quantum doublers and vortex fans and get those "rigs" up to 500 GH/s each pretty easy.

But I love you.
369  Economy / Speculation / Re: 8 hours on: March 27, 2013, 04:46:48 PM
Some news will be put to light on national television. Wheels are in motion to ban bitcoin exchange in one country, and this may spread internationally.

I heard an asteroid was headed straight for the internet.

:Golf clap:



Actually, apparently a kind-of asteroid has indeed crashed into the internet:

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/technology-21954636

Though I can't say I've noticed any slowing down today. And BTC still keeps going up.
370  Economy / Speculation / Re: 8 hours on: March 27, 2013, 01:01:56 AM
Some news will be put to light on national television. Wheels are in motion to ban bitcoin exchange in one country, and this may spread internationally.

I heard an asteroid was headed straight for the internet.

:Golf clap:
371  Economy / Speculation / Re: omfg bitcoin is on newsnight on: March 27, 2013, 12:50:02 AM
Maybe he is just afraid he'll come over as an idiot if he criticizes something he doesn't fully understand?

Could any TV pundit/commentator/interviewer/newscaster actually HAVE that level of self-awareness and intellectual integrity?

Actually I rarely watch Newsnight. Can someone just tell me, is it Paxo or not?
372  Bitcoin / Development & Technical Discussion / Re: Creating an "official" protocol specification for the Bitcoin internet currency on: March 26, 2013, 11:35:13 PM
I think inclusion bugs and quirks of satoshi client in spec will be counter-productive.
Spec should be "clean" and will take effect at some point in the future. By that date, everyone should upgrade their clients.

I agree, but what I think TierNolan was getting at, was just that the spec should count all blocks prior to (say) 250,000 as valid, even if some of them would not actually be under the new spec, i.e. they should be 'grandfathered in' even if the new spec would otherwise reject them. But the spec shouldn't allow future blocks to have the same 'deformities'. Assuming of course  there turn out to be any in the first ~250,000. So iron out the bugs going forward, but keep the blockchain, imperfect though it may be, up to a certain point. (Actually, not that I have much of a clue about these things, but isn't that kind of what the current system of checkpoints is for?)
373  Bitcoin / Mining / Re: block.version=1 blocks will all be orphaned soon on: March 26, 2013, 11:22:10 PM
A very large portion of v2 hashing is offline (btcguild - roughly 30-40%; for nearly 3 hours now) and a couple of v1 miners got lucky in a row.

The rest of the v2 network overtook them and the network reorganized.


Excuse the tinfoil hat, but, notwithstanding Eleuthria's correction of your percentages, did we just see an attempt to sabotage Bitcoin? I know Eleuthria has had the occasional DDOS before, but this particular one at this particular time? I sure hope the dev team and a few pool operators are busy combing through transaction logs with forensic attention to detail...
374  Bitcoin / Development & Technical Discussion / Re: Where can I learn in more detail exactly what the computers are doing to mine? on: March 26, 2013, 01:33:16 PM
Kind of, but don't confuse the hash that a miner needs to find, with a bitcoin address.

A bitcoin address is the thing that looks like a string of uppercase/lowercase letters and numbers (frinstance, the one in my sig). It always starts with a 1, has (I think) 33 or 34 characters, and each character is one of 58 (not 62). 26 uppercase letters + 26 lowercase + 10 digits = 62, but four are disallowed (I think 0, O, 1 and l) and you can probably see why.

The hash is a 256-bit number, which must start with a certain number of zeroes. The more zeroes it must start with, the harder it'll be to find. Back when the difficulty level was 1, the first 32 bits had to be zero. That meant that on average you'd have to make 4 billion hashes (actually 2^32) to find a valid block header. Now the difficulty is six-million-and-change, which means the upper limit for what's a valid hash, is six million times lower than it was back in the day. So your miner has to do six million times as much work as back then.

For more info on what's actually being hashed, check out https://en.bitcoin.it/wiki/Block_hashing_algorithm
375  Economy / Trading Discussion / Re: Why is UK so slow to jump on this? on: March 26, 2013, 04:20:38 AM
I really liked Intersango. Then one UK bank after another stomped on them!  Cry

There still appears to be a small GBP market on Intersango, but it has absolutely huuuuuge spreads at the mo. And you can withdraw GBP to your own bank account with a bank transfer, but no way to get GBP into Intersango. Either have to use MtGox, or keep hold of my bitcoins.

OTOH: silver lining, it means I have kept hold of my bitcoins over the last year, instead of selling them off in batches to pay off my mining rigs. This has turned out to be an exceedingly good thing!  Grin
376  Economy / Trading Discussion / Re: Attn: Owner of 17ifsBMD96wHNgEmhwPkMhhepWkjX4jrQ5 on: March 26, 2013, 04:00:15 AM
uh, thanks for the helpful post

If you EVER lose any bitcoins again in your entire life, I will gloomily concede that I was no help at all.
377  Economy / Trading Discussion / Re: Attn: Owner of 17ifsBMD96wHNgEmhwPkMhhepWkjX4jrQ5 on: March 26, 2013, 03:50:56 AM
An escrow of 42 BTC was accidentally released to 17ifsBMD96wHNgEmhwPkMhhepWkjX4jrQ5.  If you are the owner of this address, please send the 42 BTC back to 17ifsWDxf1JmaCvqjhufnUvJM9fUBAD2Cr, thanks!

So are you basically saying, you wanted to carry out a transaction using John K as an escrow service, John K told you to send the BTC to 17ifsWDxf1JmaCvqjhufnUvJM9fUBAD2Cr and you typed '17ifs' into some database that shows first bits of previous addresses that have been used in transactions, it came back with 17ifsBMD96wHNgEmhwPkMhhepWkjX4jrQ5 and you hit the send button...? Because using the copy and paste function that's part of any modern OS was too much work?

If so, you are truly an imbecile. And now around $3000 poorer. But thank you for making the rest of us bitcoin owners a little bit richer.

So you'll be checking those long jumbles of letters more carefully from now on, yes?

ETA: just seen your sig. You're asking people who send you money to hold your hand while you try to keep track of all those difficult strings of letters. Fucking hell. Look, if you genuinely have Alzheimer's or something then I apologise for my remarks. If you don't, then consider them written in stone in 6ft tall letters outside your house.
378  Bitcoin / Pools / Re: [19000 GH] BTC Guild - PPS/PPLNS with TxFees, Stratum+Vardiff ASIC Tested on: March 23, 2013, 03:49:05 PM
Pool running stable - Check
Website not running like a amputee tortoise - Check
Wallet not being drained by error in code - Check
Nobody complaining because luck is good - Check


I think for the first time in a few months, the pool is not requiring 24/7 supervision/updates!  Which means we might be able to start having some fun...

 Grin I hope you've learned your lesson. Do NOT tempt the server fairies, they don't like being taken for granted.
379  Economy / Economics / Re: The ultimate truth on: March 22, 2013, 10:13:51 PM
Looks like some of you are forgetting to stay paranoid.

Best post/avatar combo evar.
380  Bitcoin / Mining software (miners) / Re: HOW TO UPDATE CGMINER on BAMT 0.5.c on: March 22, 2013, 05:59:51 PM
Just to clarify... my miners ARE working now, it's just that the hashrate and submitted/rejected shares aren't showing up on the web interface or the main gpumon screen. Lots of other info is... temperatures, fan speeds, volt/mem settings.

does gpumon show anything?
did you update mother as described above?
did you do all the BAMT updates minus #20?


As above, yes, and yes.
Is it possible it has something to do with my API settings? Here are the lines I've got in cgminer.conf:

Quote
"api-listen" : true,
"api-network" : true,
"api-allow" : "W127.0.0.1,W192.168.0.100,W:192.168.0.102,W:192.168.0.103,W:192.168.0.104",

blah.100 is my laptop for everyday use, blah.10{2,3,4} are my rigs.
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