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701  Economy / Gambling / Re: ▄■▀■▄ 🌟BITVEST🌟 💰WIN BY 🔶 PLAY 📈 INVEST ☕ SOCIAL➡🔺PLINKO🎲DICE🎰SLOT🎡SPIN on: April 29, 2019, 03:19:10 PM
anyway, what about the keno though? are there custom method to play?
I don't see Keno on Bitvest or update information about adding new games on Bitvest
the game on bitvest is still Plinko, Dice, Slots, Roulette, Bitspin. maybe you wrong .
702  Economy / Marketplace / Re: Trading, campaigns, gambling or mining? on: April 29, 2019, 02:23:26 PM
Trading and campaigns is the best. We know that trading is the best way to earn huge amount of money. Anyone cannot earn huge amount of money without trading.But there are risks in trading. So , you should careful about your trading ,otherwise you can't earn money. You can also earn money to signature campaign .
 

You cannot compare that two, because campaign does not have any risk, and does not require any capital to start. after all you can use both for your benefit, you can compare trading with binary, with bankroll investment, ico investment, minning or something like that. and for me trading is the best
  All things you have mentioned for joining campaigns is true and I like it because for this you will not have to invest anything but you will get your salary as forum pays, means joining signature campaigns is full time free earning, at the same time trading is beneficial to earn money but it needs highly acknowledgment and information along with trading skills.  
Yes agree, IF without knowledge and information it means we just throw our money into the market without getting profit so it's like gambling, not trading anymore.
If only want to get free money, I would recommend just joining the campaign.
703  Local / Altcoins (Bahasa Indonesia) / Re: 🔥🔥🔥[ANN][BOUNTY]~ $4,464,000 - Official GigTricks - 18 Juta Tokens🔥🔥🔥 on: April 29, 2019, 01:42:23 PM
udah tapi seinget saya belum ada pengumuman resmi dari pihak P2PB2B, coba cek deh di twiiternya. ya meski tickernya ada disana tapi belum resmi diakui, jadi percuma juga mau berharap trading? tokennya aja kaga, pasang order buy tapi yang jual siapa? kaga ada!
Emang gajelas, gajelasnya karena teamnya suka php dan nunda-nunda terus. mau dilupain, tapi saya dapet tokennya mayan banyak di daftar peserta signaturenya. berharap boleh dong, meski penuh dengan kekeceawan.
Tidaklah salah gan jika memang harus berharap karena agan merupakan salah satu dari peserta bounty signature nya Gigtricks. Saya pikir agan sebaiknya menanyakan langsung dengan PM ke admin telegram supaya mendapatkan informasi yang akurat kapan token akan di distribusikan. Walaupun sekarang ada exchange yang sudah memperdagangkan token Gigtricks tapi tanpa ada yang beli dan jual maka sama aja ga.
Distribusi udah dimulai sejak awal bulan april gan, tapi berhenti tanpa sebab ga ada informasi lagi bisa cek aja tuh di smart contractnya transaksi terakhir 17 hari yang lalu DAN saya juga di banned dari groupnya tanpa sebab, di groupnya aja juga sepi admin gapernah nongol ga pernah jawab pertanyaan.
704  Local / Altcoins (Bahasa Indonesia) / Re: 🔥🔥🔥[ANN][BOUNTY]~ $4,464,000 - Official GigTricks - 18 Juta Tokens🔥🔥🔥 on: April 29, 2019, 12:01:21 PM
Lah bukannya token dari proyek ini sudah listing di p2bp2b ya gan? cuma saya lihat masih gak ada volum sama sekali,kalaupun agan merasa proyek ini makin gak jelas sebaiknya lupain dan iklasin aja
udah tapi seinget saya belum ada pengumuman resmi dari pihak P2PB2B, coba cek deh di twiiternya. ya meski tickernya ada disana tapi belum resmi diakui, jadi percuma juga mau berharap trading? tokennya aja kaga, pasang order buy tapi yang jual siapa? kaga ada!
Emang gajelas, gajelasnya karena teamnya suka php dan nunda-nunda terus. mau dilupain, tapi saya dapet tokennya mayan banyak di daftar peserta signaturenya. berharap boleh dong, meski penuh dengan kekeceawan.

sangat di sayangkan si volumenya dikit pdhal proyek ini boutynya lumayan lama msak iya harus nunggu lama lgi buat list di market besar klo saya sih mending pasang sell aja untuk boutynya klo yg udah dapet soalnya klo volumenya kek gini sedikit berarti peminatnya
boro-boro udah dapet, distribusinya aja berhenti gajelas, komunitasnya mati kayak kuburan. masih ga ngerti ini gimana gan. cek aja nih progresnya https://etherscan.io/token/0xaf038b0290c35a3210d5cfda9f39ffceea1c1ea5
705  Local / Altcoins (Bahasa Indonesia) / Re: 🔥🔥🔥[ANN][BOUNTY]~ $4,464,000 - Official GigTricks - 18 Juta Tokens🔥🔥🔥 on: April 28, 2019, 06:52:11 PM
Ini proyek dan teamnya kok lama-kelamaan bikin kesel ya, pertama tentang distribusi selalu delay gilaa ga bisa ditepatin janjinya. terus kedua, entah kenapa saya tiba-tiba di banned padahal saya ga nyebar fud/ngoceh apapun. seinget saya, saya terakhir cuma share link smart contract gigtricks dah itu aja. tau-tau lenyap dari group setelah seminggu kemudian, gila asli wkwk.
komunitasnya awalnya antusias tapi lama kelamaan jadi redup dan sepi seperti kuburan, admin kurang responsif dan ya tau lah lihat aja di telegram.
rencana listing di p2bp2b saya rasa itu juga bakal delay juga (official announcemen dari pihak p2bp2b blom ada), cape terlalu berharap sama proyek ini. mau pasrah tapi ada token di signaturenya tapi gimana coba kalau udah begini. makin kesini perkembangannya juga makin kurang jelas.
706  Economy / Gambling / Re: Seuntjies DiceBot -Multi-Site, multi-strategy betting bot for dice. With Charts! on: April 28, 2019, 04:04:11 PM
Variable = After every x bets, times multiplier by y
Change once = after exactly x bets, times multiplier by y, once.

So variable:
Multiplier first 10 bets: 1
Multiplier bets 11-21 = 1.8
Multiplier bets 22-32 = 3.24

Change once: Multiplier first 10 bets: 1
Multiplier bets 11 and onward = 1.8


Does that explain the difference for you and why your calculations doesn't match the bots' actions?
Ah I see, I now know where my fault is.
I should use Change Once instead of Variable.  Cry
i thought variable is only increase the base bet every 11 roll (my strategy). i don't think if after 22-32 bets the multiplier will be 3.24 lol
now i know
Code:
#24) 0.03748134
#25) 0.12143953
This bet is not wrong, what is wrong is me. my calculation should be used for Change Once not for Variables.
You are right, why you very smart!!!! Cheesy
forgive me, seuntjie. and thank you for the brief explanation, actually this answer has answered all the questions from my problem above. Once again, thank you.
707  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Service Discussion (Altcoins) / Re: KYC Requirement for Bounty Managers before they require KYC to bounty hunters. on: April 28, 2019, 03:42:36 PM
there is any some bounty managers also submit their names in a spreadsheet as a signature participant, the bounty manager should also pass through the kyc besides him as a bounty manager but he is also a participant in their own campaign that he manages. to be fair together.
but if the manager only manages the campaign does not join the bounties, he does not need to follow kyc.
708  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Looking for some trusted gambling site. on: April 28, 2019, 03:16:05 PM
My personal answer is currently trusted gambling site is only primedice and stake, why? because this 2 site is not blocked by internet service provider in my country lol
the other dice site maybe is also trusted but some of them is get blocked like bitsler or bitdice.
the reason is blocked because there are a lot of bad reports about the site, if the site isn't blocked it means it's trusted by players or people in my country, it's safe!
709  Economy / Gambling / Re: Seuntjies DiceBot -Multi-Site, multi-strategy betting bot for dice. With Charts! on: April 28, 2019, 02:46:26 PM
Hello, Seuntjie
I have problem with your dicebot, actually this problem has happened a few times but because I'm not sure so I haven't made a report yet.
And now I'm sure to make a report.
I have a problem in using Advanced Mode

I use variable method
After 11 lose bet and multiplier 1.80
After 11 lose in a row base bet will change to 0.00001000

Explanation: I bet on a 40% chance with pre roll 11 bets (after losing in a row), the base bet will change to 0.00001000 with multiplier 1.80 like the picture above.
actually I don't really understand variable and change once functions.
I just use my own assumptions

OK here the full screenshot of my bets.

I have calculated before I start betting, my current balance is 0.27 LTC (before the losing streak)
I assume the red length can be up to 27 bets (safe calculation with my capital)
but in reality the base bet is only up to 25 bets ? so where the remaining 2 last bet?

this problem is in here, see below
Code:
the wrong bet in the dicebot
#24) 0.03748134
#25) 0.12143953
Code:
the correct bet should be
#24) 0.02082296 <-- ?
#25) 0.03748134
#26) 0.06746641 <-- ?
#27) 0.12143953
pre roll 11 bets (lose in a row) base bet change to 0.00001000 with multiplier 1.80
bet #12 until #25 seems have wrong calculate, more precisely in bet #24 is should be 0.02082296 NOT 0.03748134 and the #26 should be 0.06746641 but as you can see the bet is max on 25 bets when i loses.
The bet is valid in the system primedice nothing wrong with it.

i just confused the bet in the dicebot, it should be only jump 1 bet every 11 bets loses that is on bet 0.00357047 -> 0.00642684 -> 0.01156831 (A to C). after 11 bets, the base bet jumped and jumped again A -> C -> E -> G.
pardon me if my english and my explanation is difficult to read, i hope you can understand the point problem i am talking about.
710  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: IEOS are no different from ICO tricks; just an upgrade on: April 27, 2019, 07:21:42 PM
Initial Exchange Online is not a trick or even and upgrade, it's just people who are too late to love IEO because many projects turned into scam or struggling to get listed on exchanges, so IEO decrease their risk. In fact, I have seen some projects using this idea to conduct their tokensales couple years ago but just today the idea became hype.
Scam exchanges will get a very funny period with IEO-hot trend. They will easily to reach their objectives, raising funds from community and go away with a fortune. I believe that months later, we will see many scam accusation on scam exchanges, that made successful IEOs, and scam exits later. I don't have intention to invest in IEOs, especially with small, strange exchanges. For big exchanges, small investors are not able to join. Bittrex shown us the fact.

You do not need to worry yourself about participating in the ieos
You can simply get your capital ready; then wait for the dump (it will surely come)
Invest and wait for the next ath then you cash out your profits

Very easy
It's not as easy as you think, some projects are really scam even if the project comes from the IEO not now, we'll see later.
You mean waiting dump price and then buying it then waiting for ATH, hmmm? What if this isn't the same as our prediction? when coins price are dump and we buy it but prices never rise again, it takes a very long time to rise. Do you patiently wait for it? I will not choose this method, wait for the dump and buy then wait for ATH.
this topic talking about IEO is no different from ICO, yes I agree with this, I have posted many times in several threads. this is only an upgrade from ICO+STO=IEO. if ICO you can invest just sending to smart contract address, STO you must KYC to invest, IEO is you must KYC and the very special is the project/coin is ready on market. yes it's new tricks! we will see it later what will happened.
711  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Speculation (Altcoins) / Re: Is it possible that NPXS will reach 1$? on: April 27, 2019, 05:53:10 PM
Everything is possible, but we don't know when that will happen. for now, I hope you don't expect too much that the certainty is still far away. the current price is $0.000646, still too far to go to $1.
712  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Speculation (Altcoins) / Re: Time to invest or wait ? on: April 26, 2019, 09:20:04 PM
Just invest if you have money, waiting too long will only waste your golden opportunity. although waiting is also good because we have to know the market conditions before investing. just a suggestion from me, invest in any current market conditions such as the current conditions, but don't invest in large quantities. invest little by little from the investment at the lowest to the highest price, then enter all in the notes and calculate capital * price = profit. so you will know how much capital is and how much profit you will get.
713  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Speculation (Altcoins) / Re: Do you think Ethereum will hit $1,000? on: April 26, 2019, 09:11:40 PM
The answer is Yes but when? This year? I doubt that. maybe next year?? doubt too, so when? it depends on the progress of the current project and the community and of course depends on the price of bitcoin. Currently, bitcoin prices haven't touched prices above 10000$, so don't expect ethereum back to or hit 1000$ again.
714  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: STO vs ICO - FIGHT! on: April 24, 2019, 05:44:32 PM
STOs didn't get much popular yet, still a lot to happen in that sector once the regulators catch up and make them possible. But I think IEOs have more potential in the short term. Long-term security tokens are the way to go IMO.
So this answer is like, would the ICO or STO the winner is IEO, is that so? haha....
indeed STO is not popular when compared to ICO, maybe it can be said that STO is a failure, or it could be said that the appearance of this IEO is an improvement of the STO system. basically STO and IEO are almost the same, that is, they need KYC (points that I highlight). i don't want discuss this, but honestly, we cannot avoid it if the IEO is more trusted now.
ICO is famous for anomims but often has problems and ends with a scam.

715  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: What token do you expect in 2019? on: April 24, 2019, 05:18:03 PM
Because the topic is talking about "token" so of course BNB is the best and this token is actually more than I expected, I thought it will end up like KCS from high prices and falling down not going up again, BNB proves it can get a very perfect chance when the market is in a bearish condition. And the next token i expect is BAT, i don't have much describtion about this token/project because i just know this from coinbase lol
it's looks like legit project and have good chance in this year 2019 so i believe BAT.
by the way, if i am not wrong read, BNB will doing swap token from the current token to their own chain, just like Tron did.
716  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Speculation (Altcoins) / Re: Ethereum will reach $ 2500 on: April 24, 2019, 04:56:39 PM
$2500??? it seems very difficult to reach at that price. You expect too high, as you see now to touch the price of $500 takes a very long time, speculating at a price of $2500 (shock) lol
speculation at that price is very excessive.
717  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Speculation (Altcoins) / Re: Etherium 1000 $ is a dream to everyone ! on: April 23, 2019, 10:18:43 PM
Dreaming yes, peoples is always hoping more and more lol
Actually ethereum prices will up again if bitcoin price is up if not, then eth will stuck at their price no up or down. previously the price of ethereum rise up to 1000 USD, that was also included a factor of the price of bitcoin. basically ETH was not too significant in price increases, so don't hope too much but i can't blame you if hoping a lot in ETH (up to you).
ETH is always ranked 2, that is very good achievement.
718  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: BAT on the move on: April 23, 2019, 09:58:33 PM
I honestly know about BAT just from airdrop coinbase, today I got an email to claiming BAT rewards. task told me to install the browser, from here I was curious about the features of earning BAT but after reading the posts here many had problems "how to withdraw BAT" even though I myself did not fully know about BAT. but seeing that feature pinned in the browser seems really good.
feedback, the browser is a little heavier in its performance maybe this just happened to me.
719  Economy / Economics / Re: Can bitcoin be worthless? on: April 23, 2019, 09:29:32 PM
Talking about the possibilities, surely the answer will always be "Yes". someday it will definitely be replaced with something new, not in the near future but surely it will happen. By seeing the amount of legalization/kyc on the market and so on, I think bitcoin is no longer 100% anonymous, starting from here someday there will be a new system/coin that will replace it. this is only talking about a possibility bitcoin is worthless Smiley
720  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: I'm buying alts now on: April 23, 2019, 09:07:51 PM
You have made a good decision when you bought altcoin at that time. so congrats, I think now that you have made a profit after seeing the market is currently in a bullish position. Don't say you've sell it all before the bullish market comes lol
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