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41  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: {Ivugeo Evolution Coin} {And now[IvugeoExchange.com]is opened!} on: November 28, 2015, 07:14:51 PM
When you make a secure paper wallet, you are supposed to do it on a machine that has NEVER been connected to the internet since the operating system was installed.  Was this done, or was the paper wallet just generated while still connected to the internet?

This is a pretty good example of why a premine is never a good idea for a coin.  Premines are never used for the intended purpose even if the dev isn't the one who dumps it.
42  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN][XMG] Coin Magi | CPU mining | PoS-II | PoM | Unique BLK reward | [MagiPay] on: November 11, 2015, 08:45:42 PM
Yeah, but normally I would get something between 0.3 and 1.2 rewards every few minutes/hours... but now.. 12 hours without nothing... its a bit weird. I looked at the latest block found and it was 12 hours ago... thats kind weird isnt? Ive never heard of this pool so I know nothing of it.

The rewards for magi go down when hashrate goes up.  Also there is a luck factor involved in finding blocks so hours could go buy without a block being found.  This means that if hash goes up a lot and it isn't on the pool you are on, the probability of a block being found on the pool goes down.  The reward will probably be a lot lower when a block is finally found as well.  I use sweetspot miner (http://xmg.makejar.com/) and have it set so my cpu usage goes down to 10% when hashrate goes up and rewards go down so I am not wasting energy.  I have mine set to 10 XMG reward target and it still uses the higher cpu % setting until rewards drop below about 6 XMG per block.
43  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN][XMG] Coin Magi | CPU mining | PoS-II | PoM | Unique BLK reward | [MagiPay] on: November 10, 2015, 09:18:12 PM
I saw that I got my PoM reward sent to my address I use to get paid out from the mining pools.  Nice to get such a big reward from mining.  Smiley
44  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN] MangoCoinz Official ANN Thread - Mine cryptocurrencies on you smart phone on: November 10, 2015, 09:03:33 PM
I have been using the MangoCoinz app while I have been delivering pizzas and mining has been going well.  I was hoping to get an extra tip from all of the bringing pizza to people's doors and running back to the car.  I tried to use the sell button and saw that it has been disabled.  Any news on when this will be working again?  It will be very hard to get new people interested in this app that are not already into cryptocurrency if they can't get paid in paypal.

I was hoping for good things for this coin when the new app came out.  It looks really good and is a lot more stable then the old app.  I mined with the old app until I had 120 MCZ and they were stolen by someone who sent them all to usecryptos that didn't have access to my phone.  I emailed support about it and Srele told me he would send me back the 120 MCZ.  I never received them, and if he did in fact send them they were probably stolen by whoever emptied my account before they ever reached my phone.  A few weeks ago I tried to transfer the 2 MCZ I still had on the old app to the new one, and that did not work.

I really like the idea for MangoCoinz, but won't be recommending it to people who aren't already in crypto until some of these issues get worked out.  It is hard to get people exited about putting something on their phone to make $0.03 per day, especially when they have to go through the extra trouble of using an exchange. 

Any thoughts about putting google ads into the phone to help the price?  It would be easier to pay out people with paypal if google was putting money into your account.
I agree when will it be back devs?

I would gladly put up with ads in the app.  I think that it would actually be a great thing for confidence because then I would know that new money is coming in from somewhere.  If everyone who used the app clicked on 1 link per day, the add revenues would be greater than $0.03 per day.
45  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN] MangoCoinz Official ANN Thread - Mine cryptocurrencies on you smart phone on: November 10, 2015, 08:22:17 PM
I have been using the MangoCoinz app while I have been delivering pizzas and mining has been going well.  I was hoping to get an extra tip from all of the bringing pizza to people's doors and running back to the car.  I tried to use the sell button and saw that it has been disabled.  Any news on when this will be working again?  It will be very hard to get new people interested in this app that are not already into cryptocurrency if they can't get paid in paypal.

I was hoping for good things for this coin when the new app came out.  It looks really good and is a lot more stable then the old app.  I mined with the old app until I had 120 MCZ and they were stolen by someone who sent them all to usecryptos that didn't have access to my phone.  I emailed support about it and Srele told me he would send me back the 120 MCZ.  I never received them, and if he did in fact send them they were probably stolen by whoever emptied my account before they ever reached my phone.  A few weeks ago I tried to transfer the 2 MCZ I still had on the old app to the new one, and that did not work.

I really like the idea for MangoCoinz, but won't be recommending it to people who aren't already in crypto until some of these issues get worked out.  It is hard to get people exited about putting something on their phone to make $0.03 per day, especially when they have to go through the extra trouble of using an exchange. 

Any thoughts about putting google ads into the phone to help the price?  It would be easier to pay out people with paypal if google was putting money into your account.
46  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN][XMG] Coin Magi | CPU mining | PoS-II | PoM | Unique BLK reward | [MagiPay] on: November 08, 2015, 06:33:59 AM
Wow a long post!  A lot to digest.  I think that if the difficulty adjusted a lot quicker, most of the problems would be solved.


iii) This might be insane, so weird idea. The magi team build a super miner which comes along and compensates the hashrate because miners' leaving when coming the big miners. 

This is actually a really good idea.  I suggested in IRC that the magi community needs the ability to fight fire with fire.  The coins mined by such a super miner could be used for coin giveaways to help distribution be as widespread as possible.  Less of a lag time with the adjustment of difficulty and the resulting block rewards, with a higher baseline hash rate from a magi team super miner would be a good solution.
47  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN][XMG] Coin Magi | CPU mining | PoS-II | PoM | Unique BLK reward | [MagiPay] on: November 06, 2015, 08:02:56 AM
if you want large miner POW frustration, I'll give it to you:

you should kill pools, rework magi daemon to accept up to 250Kh/s - roughly three i7 CPUs

centralization is bad for any coin, the more miners mine solo, more good for the network, the more miners mine at single pool the less secure is network, then we have botnet, botnet is bad and good, it's bad for POW miners as they get less for same Watt/hour invested, but it's good for POS miners as they purchase those POW blocks @ bellow cost Watt/hour(price they pay is less than if they payed for electricity to POW those blocks)
 
POW miners will either have to adapt or leave, I was POW @ bitcoin, then I adapted to mine scrypt and convert to/buy bitcoins, then adapted to mine x11 and convert to/buy bitcoins and at last I left, but I still have/use it!

there is a service that converts other coins to magicoin a few pages behind, adapt, use it!

coin was advertised as green, mine when you idle, make it so, kill pools, botnet can't create/manage hundreds of daemons that easily.

What about P2Pool? I'm not very familiar with it, could it help?
If you need a local wallet in order to solo mine, it would make it impossible to use other low power devices (as has been discussed before).

The problem with requiring an address with no funds or putting a max hash limit in somehow it would be that someone with a very high hashrate could split it between a thousand different addresses and make it appear that they are many small miners.  That is why I think the best option is to reduce the PoW reward, and then reimburse small miners through an automatic proof of mining that they can sign up for on the coinmagi.org website, and sign a message in their wallet to verify their address.  There needs to be a 1000-2000 XMG minimum to make it expensive for a single miner to sign up a lot of different addesses.  The thing that we still need to figure out is how the website will calculate an individuals hashrate.  I was thinking that this might be able to be accomplished by having miners set their pool payout to some specific value that would then be seen in the blockchain.  Anyone have any ideas for this?

I think most pool software can graph out the average hash rate over 24 hours.  I think if you just verify that some hashing was done above a certain required minimum that might be enough.  I'm wondering about where you would get the funds for PoM payments though if your reducing the PoW reward and have a very low PoS rate.

Even with a lower PoW reward there is still the issue of somebody way overpowering things and taking all the limited reward.  It is better to me to distribute the funds correctly in the first place than try to fix things afterward with redistribution, hence my idea of mining all the block rewards to a single address to be divided evenly.

Yes, in the long run hash limiting might have issues too, perhaps you might need to tie it in somehow to having a requirement for a minimum 1000 – 2000 XMG investment as well but that gets more complex.

Some possible voting suggestions:

    Nothing needs changing
    Lets talk about it more
    PoS only same rate
    PoS only 15%
    PoS only 20% with 5 XMG cap
    PoS only 50% with 5 XMG cap
    Hash limit PoW to solo mining
    Mine PoW to a single address
    Make adjustments to PoW
    Voting is worthless in an oligarchy (Just kidding) Cheesy
Good see the different options here. If we could fill this list we could launch a poll and see what the community likes the most.
This period will be very important for the future of Magi.
During this time Magi would also like to receive some feedback about the app.
If you would like to test the app or already tested it send me a pm.

I don't think that hash limit or mining to a single address is a viable option.  Mining software can be written in such a way that submitted shares can be sent to multiple places.  This means that one person could have a worker at all of the pools but only be using one device to do it.  I think that making adjustments to PoW is a good option.  Lowering the rewards will mean less coins are produced each day, which might cause magi coin to be stable at a higher price.  Trying to make the coin viable for mining on old equipment is a tough goal to be achieved,  because something that is profitable with outdated hardware will always be more profitable with newer faster better hardware.  Moore's law is coming into play here and new hardware is orders of magnitude faster, and will continue to be so for the foreseeable future.

I would be happy with changing (increasing) the PoS rewards as well, but I think XMG is unique because it has both PoW and PoS.  Going to PoS only may cause the transaction times to increase, which would make magi less attractive as a currency coin.  Having a cap is a good idea to control inflation so that PoS blocks found with more coins as the input transaction stake at a lower rate.  One problem with this is that you can still split the coins into many ideally sized transaction, requiring more technical expertise and putting new users at a disadvantage because they don't know how to stake as well.  Another problem with PoS only is that the price could be less stable.  More incentive for staking is a good thing, but I think having a sliding scale between 5%-10% and having a hard cap on reward would be enough.  Making small tweaks to both the PoS and PoW could be the best option.
48  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN][XMG] Coin Magi | CPU mining | PoS-II | PoM | Unique BLK reward | [MagiPay] on: November 05, 2015, 07:39:40 PM
if you want large miner POW frustration, I'll give it to you:

you should kill pools, rework magi daemon to accept up to 250Kh/s - roughly three i7 CPUs

centralization is bad for any coin, the more miners mine solo, more good for the network, the more miners mine at single pool the less secure is network, then we have botnet, botnet is bad and good, it's bad for POW miners as they get less for same Watt/hour invested, but it's good for POS miners as they purchase those POW blocks @ bellow cost Watt/hour(price they pay is less than if they payed for electricity to POW those blocks)
 
POW miners will either have to adapt or leave, I was POW @ bitcoin, then I adapted to mine scrypt and convert to/buy bitcoins, then adapted to mine x11 and convert to/buy bitcoins and at last I left, but I still have/use it!

there is a service that converts other coins to magicoin a few pages behind, adapt, use it!

coin was advertised as green, mine when you idle, make it so, kill pools, botnet can't create/manage hundreds of daemons that easily.

What about P2Pool? I'm not very familiar with it, could it help?
If you need a local wallet in order to solo mine, it would make it impossible to use other low power devices (as has been discussed before).

The problem with requiring an address with no funds or putting a max hash limit in somehow it would be that someone with a very high hashrate could split it between a thousand different addresses and make it appear that they are many small miners.  That is why I think the best option is to reduce the PoW reward, and then reimburse small miners through an automatic proof of mining that they can sign up for on the coinmagi.org website, and sign a message in their wallet to verify their address.  There needs to be a 1000-2000 XMG minimum to make it expensive for a single miner to sign up a lot of different addesses.  The thing that we still need to figure out is how the website will calculate an individuals hashrate.  I was thinking that this might be able to be accomplished by having miners set their pool payout to some specific value that would then be seen in the blockchain.  Anyone have any ideas for this?
49  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN][XMG] Coin Magi | CPU mining | PoS-II | PoM | Unique BLK reward | [MagiPay] on: November 04, 2015, 10:34:53 PM
http://magipi.tk/

MagiPi  | The first COIN MAGI Pool on a RaspberryPi 

Nice Welcome in our awesome Magi community!!
Somebody mining with PI here already?
All works ok?

I almost bought one, but I gave up, it is to expensive in Brazil

Maby The banana pi is better, its btw cheaper and better then the raspberry pi

I think the odroid is even better than the banana pi, I am looking at getting one.  People who have them tell me they like them a lot better than the pi.  http://www.hardkernel.com/main/main.php
50  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN][XMG] Coin Magi | CPU mining | PoS-II | PoM | Unique BLK reward | [MagiPay] on: November 04, 2015, 09:47:21 PM
I think the easiest solution to the high hash rate problem is to lower the PoW reward.  I think the biggest problem right now is that hashrate goes down for a couple days before the big miner comes back on, and then they find a bunch of blocks in a row and get a lot of coins.  If the reward never went up so high, there would be less incentive to hitting it with super high hashrate.  Maybe the PoW reward should vary between 0.5 XMG and 5 XMG.  I have seen it go above 20 XMG and that is just too high.  Lowering the PoW rewards will stabilize the price and give those staking more incentive to hold.  Small miners with old cpus can be rewarded through a new PoM campaign that requires miners to hold a minimum of 1000 XMG in their own wallet to qualify.
51  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN][XMG] Coin Magi | CPU mining | PoS-II | PoM | Unique BLK reward | [MagiPay] on: November 02, 2015, 10:34:45 PM
http://magipi.tk/

MagiPi  | The first COIN MAGI Pool on a RaspberryPi 

Nice Welcome in our awesome Magi community!!

If someone can provide me a comprehensive step-by-step tutorial on how to mine on a Pi, it will be a real pleasure for me to join it Wink !

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=735170.msg11977962#msg11977962  Try to compile using these instructions.  I have gotten it to work before with these.  I tried compiling on a vps last night and it failed so post any error you get and someone can probably tell you what dependency is missing.
52  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN][XMG] Coin Magi | CPU mining | PoS-II | PoM | Unique BLK reward | [MagiPay] on: October 31, 2015, 07:29:32 PM
Just loaded up the newly updated magi app in the google store and started playing around with it.  I tried to watch my main address and pointed the camera at the QR code, it found it and then the app stopped working and crashed.  On the price page, it might be nice to have the price and volume on the major exchanges.  The graph could be much smaller to put that information in.  The hashrate graph looks good, but would it be possible to change the time axis like it is with the price graph?  It would be nice to be able to zoom in and see what is going on over the last few hours.  Keep up the good work, the app is getting better all the time!
Thanks Fragilefungi for the good feedback. Will talk with the android dev about this. The choice Magi has to make at the moment is : release app today, because thats what Magi promoted. (MagI android app will be released in october) and update the improvements OR update improvements first and than release the android app. Personally I don't think it would be a problem to release it today and update improvements afterwards. What's your opinion?

There are a few bugs still, all related to the address tab.  The QR reader crashes if you try to import an address that has a balance.  I tried it with a new address and it imported that one just fine.  I just noticed a new bug, which is that if you try to import an address manually but don't finish typing it in, the add address text still shows if you switch to the XMG price or Network hashrate.  This text box goes away if you minimize the app and go back to it but it is kind of distracting.  This happened when I was trying to type in my address manually.  I moved the phone from being vertical to horizontal,  which makes it easier to type with two hands on the keyboard.  I tried rotating the phone to horizontal on the initial screen and it crashed the app, so it is defiantly having problems all around switching from vertical to horizontal screen shape.  I think fixing the text box bug in the horizontal screen position needs to be done before the app is officially released.
53  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN][XMG] Coin Magi | CPU mining | PoS-II | PoM | Unique BLK reward | [MagiPay] on: October 30, 2015, 05:12:32 PM
Just loaded up the newly updated magi app in the google store and started playing around with it.  I tried to watch my main address and pointed the camera at the QR code, it found it and then the app stopped working and crashed.  On the price page, it might be nice to have the price and volume on the major exchanges.  The graph could be much smaller to put that information in.  The hashrate graph looks good, but would it be possible to change the time axis like it is with the price graph?  It would be nice to be able to zoom in and see what is going on over the last few hours.  Keep up the good work, the app is getting better all the time!
54  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN] LiteDoge - such Community coin | no premine | very fast | much profit on: October 29, 2015, 02:05:50 PM
Was LDOGE submitted to bleutrade?  Any response?
55  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN][XMG] Coin Magi | CPU mining | PoS-II | PoM | Unique BLK reward | [MagiPay] on: October 27, 2015, 07:34:47 AM
It is clearly written in the OP that mining Magi only worths it if total hashrate is in a certain range.
What is so hard to udnerstand about it?

You are right about this mozsi.
People pls read the OP.
But also read the latest posts.
Our dev asked in different posts for your opinions.
Also give the team more info about big miners.
Not only the hashrate but also the pool-name and pool-nick. Like cc90cc, he did not know the Magi unique blockreward system. After contact and telling him about this hè posted in the OP.
So reading the OP and posts are important.

If you are mining Magi for gaining fast money than things could be disappointed. Magi is a long-term currency with an awesome and growing community.
The new developments like the coming Magi android app, new Proof of Interest campaign and other developments and campaigns will help with the grow of Magi. In the past time Magi achieved a lot and the Magi team and community will continue with that.
Everybody is welcome to join and try the different mind-set of mining Magi.

111magic you are good guys ,thanks!
Let me know if you need big share to test ,I support you fully Cheesy

What kind of FPGA did you get to work?  I am leaning towards thinking that FPGA could be good for the magi community, as long as the code were open sourced and the miners were intending to hold the coins to stake.  The reason I think this way is because I think the best goal of the magi community is to have a secure network with low power consumption.  Small, low cost FPGAs could use as little as 5 watts, and if this could produce hashrate at 100 times the energy efficiency of CPU, I think that would be a good thing. 

is it possible to make it POS only? we should for now..
its almost already it.. less than 0.65XMG/block

If we made it PoS only I would raise the block reward.  Possibly we could even do something fancy like adding a “Pay it Forward” type block reward where you could earn an additional reward if you gift part of your reward to somebody else.  We could do this by adding signing on the block explorer (like the hyperstake rich list http://www.presstab.pw/phpexplorer/HYP/richlist.php) so that a neutral third party could verify that the addresses appear to be controlled by different members of the community.  I'm trying to put something together to support this on a block chain that can do contracts.

Please see: http://lightsplasher.com/2015/pay-it-forward/  for more details.

The best way of rewarding small miners with older equipment (also a good goal of the magi community or hard to implement) would be to have a block explorer where people can register their address.  That way it would be easier for the small miner to show that they are mining and holding, and therefore eligible for a bonus.
56  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN][XMG] Coin Magi | CPU mining | PoS-II | PoM | Unique BLK reward | [MagiPay] on: October 25, 2015, 04:41:20 PM
Goldlabel does anyone from you clan play League of Legends?  I have been using my rewards from playing to buy more MAGI  Grin

Mean this game fragilefungi?



I think this is this one. I'm not aware that there is several League of Legends game out there (I think, not a pro of this kind of games).

This game is the one!  I love real time strategy games the most.  I have been playing a lot of the newest yordle GNAR!  Yordles are my favorite because they are small cute rodents  Cheesy
57  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN] MangoCoinz Official ANN Thread - Mine cryptocurrencies on you smart phone on: October 24, 2015, 04:44:01 AM
Looks like you are verifying manually.  You should have gotten an email before that:

To activate your account please click on the following link:

Click here!

58  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN] DigiCube - EARN BOUNTIES FOR SERVICES AND PROMOS      🚀🚀🚀🚀🚀🚀🚀🚀🚀🚀 on: October 23, 2015, 10:01:33 PM
Compounding formula: A = P * (1 + (r/n))^(n*t)  ; P=Principle , R=Interest Rate = 2000% = 20 ,
n=Number of compounding periods per year , t=Years

1 year : 12,000 * (1 + (20/365)) ^ (365 * 1) = 12000 * (1.0548)^365 = 12,000 * 285,937,255 = 3,431,247,062,843

2 year : 12,000 * (1 + (20/365)) ^ (365 * 2) = 12000 * (1.0548)^730 = 12,000 * 81,760,113,932,443,656 = 981,121,367,189,323,875,096


Glad that my math minor payed off for something.   Cool

Lol, I am positive it will not get even close to that  Kiss

This is true because the coins for the bounties are not staking.  8000 * 285,937,255 = 2,287,498,040,000 (34% less than if the bounties were staking.)

Coins sitting on c-cex and yobit don't stake either?  I don't know their policy.
59  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN] DigiCube - EARN BOUNTIES FOR SERVICES AND PROMOS      🚀🚀🚀🚀🚀🚀🚀🚀🚀🚀 on: October 23, 2015, 09:41:47 PM
Compounding formula: A = P * (1 + (r/n))^(n*t)  ; P=Principle , R=Interest Rate = 2000% = 20 ,
n=Number of compounding periods per year , t=Years

1 year : 12,000 * (1 + (20/365)) ^ (365 * 1) = 12000 * (1.0548)^365 = 12,000 * 285,937,255 = 3,431,247,062,843

2 year : 12,000 * (1 + (20/365)) ^ (365 * 2) = 12000 * (1.0548)^730 = 12,000 * 81,760,113,932,443,656 = 981,121,367,189,323,875,096


Glad that my math minor payed off for something.   Cool
60  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN][XMG] Coin Magi | CPU mining | PoS-II | PoM | Unique BLK reward | [MagiPay] on: October 23, 2015, 09:21:38 PM
Voted!  It is going to be hard to pass monero but we can still do top 3  Wink
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