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981  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Boxing Speculation, Odds and Predictions on: March 25, 2022, 11:51:50 PM
In the event that Canelo and GGG each lose that battle, how would this be? I suppose that for the sponsors it would be a serious problem and even more so if it represents a loss of money for them, where one of these boxers makes a single mistake and they lose, I don't think the match will take place, this forces the boxers who necessarily have to win .

A good question. Canelo and GGG's upcoming fight is the ticket for the trilogy.

But if ever they will lose, the fight will still happen to satisfy the massive request for the community.

There's still big money that will generate as people will already move on right away on their supposed loss 5-6 months after their respective last fight. It will totally be forgotten and all will focus on the trilogy.
982  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: 2020 Philippine Basketball Association betting discussion on: March 25, 2022, 11:39:34 PM
Magnolia fans have to move on that Game 2 loss.

Their import Mike Harris accepts the loss and the reason he takes is, they didn't perform well. If only they did, even with that controversial call, they will still win. We should also see give credit to what Meralco did.

Learn mistakes, be calm, be prepared, be ready next game, move on, and beat Meralco the next game.

Seeing a comeback next game, no way Magnolia will allow another win by Meralco.
983  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: NBA 2020-2021 betting on: March 25, 2022, 11:29:45 PM
Golden State Warriors to win @ 2.12.

I'm thinking that they will repeat their win even without their main players. They should be able to give an Atlanta Hawks a loss despite that.

It's worth betting for me since the Warriors are totally not a team that can easily beat even without Steph Curry. I trust my bet.

The game will now start in 2 minutes as of posting this.
984  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: 2022 NBA Season on: March 24, 2022, 03:00:23 PM
NBA games are really unpredictable. There are underdog teams who beat the Favorites unexpectedly. I'm sure lots of bettors lose their bet last night because of the anticipation that Favorites will perform. It's good to see handicapped teams beating a healthy lineup.

Now studying the next set of games and some are worth trying.

Chicago Bulls and Phoenix Suns are considered handicapped next game against their respective opponents. Might put a bet on one of this team.
985  Other / Off-topic / Re: Jake Paul vs Conor McGregor on: March 24, 2022, 02:48:45 PM
They both survive the match between Mayweather and they are both have experience in ring. Many enthusiast like this match because they know who has an advantage and place a bet on it, we know that Jake Paul has the advantage since he is in that sports and I don't think Conor McGregor looks good in boxing career I like him more in octagon.

Survived what? Jake Paul never had any encounter with Floyd Mayweather and he said before, he won't chase the Hall of Famer.

It's Logan Paul who fought Mayweather and there's no winner because it's just an exhibition match.

I also don't consider Jake Paul having an advantage on the boxing ring. He only fought a few matches up to this date. Conor McGregor, even only fighting once knows how boxing should be. McGregor can defeat Jake Paul even on the boxing ring, much ahead if it's on Octagon.
986  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: [Boxing] Errol Spence Jr vs. Yordenis Ugas 3-Belt Welterweight Unification Match on: March 24, 2022, 02:32:12 PM
Knockout = Spence
Decision = Ugas 30% Spence 70% lol

This is probably the best probability for the fight since they are fighting in the USA where if you are not a citizen there, you need to work harder to knock out your opponent because if you let the official decide the match, it would be total chaos because it always drips away from the unofficial scorecard, especially a championship fight like this where one of the fighters is totally underdog.

I would disagree with the decision percentage, I think that's too high given for Spence considering they are both champions in this division. If the fight reaches the judges' scorecards, it's either one is not engaging a lot, or it's a closer fight where both fighters are strong enough to absorb punches from each other.

I think 60/40 would be fair enough, but it depends on who performs better, so I won't choose a boxer for a certain percentage.

I think you didn't get the distribution of the percentage made above. From what I understand, it means that if the fight goes to decision and even Ugas is ahead, the probability that the judge will still favor Spence is likely high as he's the favorite and the most anticipated fight by many is him against Terence Crawford. I can even give Spence at 80% to win by Decision.

That is possible to happen that's why Ugas should make a clear win at most rounds so that people and viewers will side with him pressuring the judges to be fair. I'm not saying it will be rigged but as I said, many want to see Crawford vs Spence which now takes several years in the making.
987  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: 2020 Philippine Basketball Association betting discussion on: March 24, 2022, 02:20:53 PM
There is a chance that it will only happen if:
1. There will be a team that will sell their franchise and they will be the ones who will win the bid.
2. The PBA will make an expansion and adding more teams.

I think these 2 factors you have mentioned are not possible since Chooks To Go already running a league. Only companies that don't have an affiliation to any leagues in the country are allowed to bid for a franchise or apply as an expansion team.

I'm sure if there's an attempt of Chooks To Go to buy a team in the PBA, it will not be approved by the PBA Board of Governors.

Even though That magnolia has a dominant performance still that ginebra has a bigger amount of bets than magnolia. I think it also that we will see a trap here, as for now all we need is to observe.

I'm confused. What kind of trap?

The real trap is if Magnolia will be provided with a much better handicap since everyone will take the bait for it as they dominated Game 1. That's how I looked at it as a bettor for a long.

Look, it's just -3.5. I don't know how it became a trap.
988  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: NBA 2020-2021 betting on: March 24, 2022, 02:02:36 PM
I'm sure everyone is expecting Brooklyn Nets with Kevin Durant and Kyrie Irving to easily win their game against the Memphis Grizzlies without Ja Morant. Can't believe that even both KD and Kyrie combined for 70+ points, they still lose to a team without their main scorer.

Memphis Grizzlies really amazed us this season. They are doing well even without Morant.

Good thing that I hesitate to bet on that Nets handicap prior to the game. I should have pissed by now lol.
989  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: [Boxing]: Canelo Alvarez vs Dmitry Bivol - May 7 on: March 24, 2022, 01:39:33 PM
The same situation with the Pacman vs Ugas fight, although Ugas was the champion, but after the fight it was reported that Ugas upset Pacman in a fight because that's how the majority sees, they favor the popular fighter and some does not even know what belt these boxers are fighting for.

Not totally the same situation because Ugas just got the Title due to Pacquiao's inactivity.

Therefore, the fight becomes a challenge for Ugas to prove he is really deserving of that title which he did by upsetting Manny Pacquiao as a defender.

Back to Canelo vs Bivol, the former will make an entry to Bivol's weight class, the undefeated one. Since Canelo is popular, maybe that's the reason he becomes a Favorite but for me, it's Bivol and Canelo instead is the underdog.
990  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: [Boxing]: Canelo Alvarez vs Dmitry Bivol - May 7 on: March 23, 2022, 11:53:46 PM
We will see if we can receive some good or bad updates next month as there could be some delays that will happen in line of the Russia and Ukraine conflict but I'm also looking forward just like you guys that this fight will happen in the exact scheduled date this 7th of May.

Other than that, worrying or speculating too much won't help.

We can speculate but not on the topic if the fight will continue or not. If the fight failed, then it means we are also doomed as the conflict between Russia and Ukraine now becoming more sensitive and dangerous.

The fight between Canelo Alvarez and Dmitry Bivol will surely happen without a problem. No sanctions that it will be a non-title fight.

Let's be positive on that and we just have to share speculations on how they will fight.
991  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: 2022 NBA Season on: March 23, 2022, 11:46:31 PM
We are going to have a really competitive game tonight. Grizzlies are hosting Nets and it is going to be a game between two close teams. Nets are favoured by bookmakers to win this game but there is a very small gap. Nets have begun to improve their results a lot recently and this can help them very positively for this game. But Grizzlies are a quite solid team now. Especially Ja Morant has been very impressive so far. In his lead, Grizzlies can make big difficulties for Nets. But at the end, I think that Nets will be winning with the help of KD and Irving especially.

Ja Morant is expected not to play due to injury but the odds didn't move much because Grizzlies is still strong even without Ja Morant. Playing without Morant, Nets will have to take it as an advantage.

They should cover the handicap here or even win a game. Hard to make the game close when a team didn't have their superstar and Memphis are against superstars Kevin Durant and Kyrie Irving.

It will be a shame for the Nets if they will lose this game.
992  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: [Boxing] Errol Spence Jr vs. Yordenis Ugas 3-Belt Welterweight Unification Match on: March 22, 2022, 11:39:15 PM
Most probably the fight will end in 12 rounds. Ugas is not an aggressive fighter, he will just wait for Spence to attack so he can counter, and of course, Spence would also not gonna take that bait as we know how smart he is in the ring, so it will be a battle of scores per round, and I see that Spence has the edge on that.

Spence might be annoyed during the process and will try to crack the defense of Ugas in the 6th or 7th round. That might lead to an opening to Spence that Ugas can take advantage of. But that was a plan, Spence will be an aggressive fighter until Ugas will attempt to counter it making an opening too for him. Then that will be the turning point per round.

I don't see this fight ending at 12 rounds. It will be a KO victory but to whom, we don't know.

We are now turning to technical boxing analysts here lol.
993  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: 2022 NBA Season on: March 22, 2022, 11:26:17 PM
Lebron is a great player and I like him, but dude is just way too old, even with scoring this many points, he is too old to carry a team of scrubs anymore, add in health issues and it is unlikely that they will even be in play-in, and even if they are they will just get eliminated.

If only he is surrounded by a good set of teammates, the Lakers might be one of the title contenders this year.

That old dude is averaging 30 PPG and if there's a teammates that is doing the same, they are a team to beat this season. But unfortunately, that's not the situation and the Lakers nation is hoping for a good surprise.  Not too late for Westbrook to regain his momentum. Just focus and disregard negative comments towards him.
994  Economy / Service Discussion / Re: Drake became partners of the Stake Casino on: March 22, 2022, 11:14:41 PM
Celebrity endorsers can be of great help, but it would be so much better if the casino already has made its contribution and its reputation on its own. Even without an endorser, surely, the players would be encouraged to invest and play with them. Although having an endorser would be a plus and a win-win situation too.

Prior to getting the involvement of Drake, Stake is already a popular crypto-gambling platform. It means, even without the partnership, Stake will just continue to gain its popularity no matter what. It happened that Drake is playing at Stake and that's a good opportunity to make a collaboration.

Stake x Drake seems also a catchy term. The rhyme is really fit at gambling.

Drake is really fit to be their celebrity endorser. Cheesy
995  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: NBA 2020-2021 betting on: March 22, 2022, 11:04:01 PM

Milwaukee Bucks -6.5 to -8.5. But might choose the -6.5 for @ 1.91 even I want to extend my luck to -8.5 @ 2.32.

Milwaukee Bucks will play at their healthy and complete lineup. Even Chicago Bulls won their last game, I think they can cover it.

Bucks playing at their momentum is unstoppable even against a good team.
996  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: [Boxing]: Casimero vs Butler ordered by WBO on: March 19, 2022, 03:09:56 PM
No doubt that if the fight will happen between Inoue and Casimero, it would be in the 4th Quarter of this year.

But before that, Casimero should win first against Paul Butler. The result of Inoue vs Donaire also might change Casimero's next match if ever he won because the scenario will be, if Donaire will able to upset Inoue, there will be a sure rematch and that will be prioritized first compare facing Casimero.

Casimero has to wait until next year if Donaire will win. If not, then we can now expect that he will face Inoue later this year.


Well to be honest a fight scheduled on 4th quarter is quite an anticipating fight that of course the promoter should place a boxer or fighter that really has a famous name to you know be the highlight of the years end fight. And I believe scheduling Casimero vs. Inoue at that fight schedule will be a great schedule choice because boxing fans are really exciting for the face off of these two fighters. I can't wait to see these two inside the ring and let's witness who is the great fighter among them.

But like I said, there's a requirement. First, Casimero needs to win and Inoue should also do the same for the possible rematch against Nonito Donaire. It's already in the news that Donaire and Inoue will likely have a rematch this year although no official date has yet been released.

If Donaire will able to upset Inoue, then again, a rematch first is likely to happen and Casimero's name won't be included in the story.

But before thinking that, Casimer needs to be healthy first. He is the reason why the fight against Paul Butler was delayed. He should keep himself healthy and silent his mouth for the meantime.
997  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: 2020 Philippine Basketball Association betting discussion on: March 19, 2022, 02:48:43 PM
Now we are in the Semi-Finals already and look at the match-ups. Meralco Vs. Magnolia and Ginebra Vs. NLEX.
Anything new? Again its MVP Vs. SMC in the Semis and in the Finals, we will see them fighting for the championship or worse we might see a SMC vs. SMC team or MVP vs. MVP team in the Finals which I hope will not happen. My team SMB didn't enter the semis but I will still watch.

Ginebra vs Meralco is what I want to see in the Finals. A repeat of their Finals match where Justin Brownlee is also the import for Ginebra. Meralco wants that revenge. It also seems good that different companies will face in the Finals, unlike the usual same company.

If only KJ McDaniels is there, we might see NLEX in the Finals. Ginebra lost badly on this team this conference with a healthy lineup. That's how strong KJ McDaniel is. Unfortunately, we won't see it right now but I hope NLEX will give a good match.
998  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Should Casinos invest on endorsement from celebrities on: March 19, 2022, 02:30:16 PM
Should casinos invest in the endorsement of celebrities just like what Stakes is doing or it's better to just stick with giveaways contests and maintain their reputation, we know we all know the high cost of celebrity endorsement should other casinos follow Stake's lead to partner or pay celebrities to promote them.

It's not that they should but if they can afford it, why not. There's a big impact if a celebrity will advertise a certain casino in terms of spreading awareness about it. We should not take that as an issue in the first place. A partnership is common between a site and a known celebrity.

Stake also did that partnership when they are already popular as a gambling site.

Not necessary to put an investment to any celebrity endorsement but a good option.

aside from that, when stake took drake as their celebrity endorser, drake was already an active gambler on their site. it is not the case that they hire drake just to endorse the casino. they have their history already.
so in case, a casino will follow their path, better get a celebrity endorser not for the sake of the money that they will get from the casino but they are actually using the casino on their own. the partnership will be more solid and real.
not many casinos can afford a celebrity, that's the truth. but it is not the ultimate option to expand the community of the casino. if the casino can't afford, there are other means, like reward programs, bonuses, contests, races whatever will attract and sustain the interest of players.

I have to agree with you. Drake is not new to playing with Stake and surely, already loses lots of money playing at the site, like what he did on other gambling sites as well. With the partnership, Drake can now play on Stake while getting benefits and perks that everyone is dreaming of.

As per some articles, Drake is also a hardcore gambler even before playing in an online gambling site.

Drake founds a home on his preferred activity. Fortunate to him.
999  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: 2022 NBA Season on: March 19, 2022, 02:18:13 PM
Playing on stressful surrounding will totally give you an awkward feeling so best for him to be traded since hes not really fit on Lakers system and might he can play more better on different team.
That's the real reason, if he is not fit, then they should not force the issue, trade him and acquire another player that could fit to the Lakers system. Maybe John Wall would be a good answer for that, I'm sure Lakers will find it interesting to trade Westbrook for John Wall.

That's a bad idea. John Wall is an injury-prone player. That's a waste of salary space cap if the Lakers will sign this player. I'd rather keep Westbrook compared to trading him with John Wall. Even Westbrook is not fit for the Lakers, eventually, he will be used on it. It's just his first season with the Lakers and there's always a time for adjustment the following season.

I won't think the Lakers will be interested to trade their players in exchange for John Wall.

They should not add another player that is injury prone the same as Anthony Davis.

AD was also injury-prone but the Lakers gave him a chance and they even win a championship with him, so I think it's good to gamble on a John Wall trade. About the adjustment period, I think one season is enough, if he cannot synch in now, he will not gonna synch in forever.

Anthony Davis is injury-prone but when he comes back, there's no sign that he comes from an injury. He still explodes and can carry the Lakers. It's different with John Wall that after returning to the game, he seems to slow down now. There's a better trade package for Russell Westbrook compared to trading him to John Wall.

A good option for them is to sign Damian Lillard. Blazers are nowhere to be successful this season and Lillard is sick of it. He will sure accept the Lakers trade.

Or to save space-cap, they can trade Westbrook for several role players instead.
1000  Economy / Service Discussion / Re: Drake became partners of the Stake Casino on: March 19, 2022, 02:01:58 PM
We should expect Drake to mention or do some marketing for the Stake from now on. I'm just wondering if he will attempt to make sounds of Stake while watching the NBA like he's wearing a t-shirt of Stake etc.

We will know that in the playoffs, as we all know, he is in full support of the Toronto Raptors.
As of the current ranking, Raptors are in rank number 7, so they have a big chance to be in the playoffs again.
https://www.espn.com/nba/standings

It would be a big advertisement if Drake will wear a shirt of stake, I tell you, I would be happy with that because it promotes not only the gambling site but the crypto as a whole also.

Agree. Back in Toronto Raptors on 2019 Finals. Drake is always has a spotlight. In every home game in Air Canada Center, there's no moment where he will not have a special view by the camera. He's a big personality on that team.

Wearing a shirt of Stake is possible once the Raptors were able to get in the playoffs. It's a sure playoffs spot for them although advancing to 2nd round is a question.

And if that happened, I'm sure there will be a mention about it on the NBA thread, or maybe a separate thread will be created. Smiley
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