I believe it's just overflow from Ethereum dump
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can we move this to price speculation?
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I ask if it's safe to download untrusted blocks and chainstate from the internet and paste it to a pruning Bitcoin Core as a quick-start method?
Does Core validate the UTXO?
Edit: Is the chain cross platform?
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why is it that the blockstream fanoys are one minute calling out doomsday scenario's unless we swear allegiance to blockstream..
sorry I'm not blockstream fanboy. I'm actually Satoshi fanboy. the next minute think that bitcoin needs to compete against fiat.
I didn't say this. I just wanted to say that bitcoin and fiat are different things and fiat will be more usable because every 6 year old kid knows how to use it. dont they realise that bitcoin is suppose to be monetary freedom that does not need to compete or be controlled by corporate overlords or governments.. you dont see the euro complaining at the pound. and in many instances the pound doesnt want anything to do with the euro.
they can all work side by side and do their own thing..
bitcoin doesnt need to be a world wide "one world currency". bitcoin is currently 150 of 180 world currency market caps happily working along side the other 179 currencies. it doesnt need to be in first place and it doesnt need to be the only one.. 180+ currencies can work happily side by side.
If we win we will be laughing about this period of social media shills but the time is not here yet.
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but would you *really* call it usability?
No electronic cash can compete with fiat on usability. Centralized , decentralized, government approved - any electronic cash can't be more usable than fiat or gold.
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Is this how you talk to people who have different political views to you too, with sarcasm and scare quotes?
You must be a load of fun at parties.
I'm calling you out for being a shill To the ignore we go.
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agenda of the blockstream
you seriously believe this anyway the way I see this there is maybe some agenda but in the first place it's shills on social media and so far these shills In my opinion are actually harmful to Bitcoin second issue is that large enterprises e.g. banks could be buying up talent to inhibit innovation in the Bitcoin area but the way I see it they're a) late so they can't really destroy Bitcoin at this point, secondly they can't prevent further innovation by inhibiting devs because the community We should be actually concerned about the scaling roadmap taking more than expected but so far I'm not really concerned, pruning is done, etc, we're moving forward ok it's slowly but it's happening. and no, big blocks is not innovation, it's simply attack on Bitcoin.
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I miss the day when this forum can have technical talk, hail to the great leader!
Well I don't know about the others, but I'm not a real person. I'm a robot. What about you?
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So, from a regular user of Bitcoin, but non-regular participant in all of this ridiculous community drama, I tell you that *my* node at least is not a "fake classic node", I am not a spammer, scammer, or whatever. Just a regular user deeply disappointed in the attitudes of those in positions of responsibility in this community.
And you came to this deeply concerned conclusion after reading the robot-upvoted posts from the vast quantity of sockpuppet of censored /r/btc? What a shame a regular disappointed user has to read a deeply scary posts from robots on social media. But mark my words people, if you sell Bitcoin , if you betray your own self, and do this, if you blow our only chance for freedom and sell Bitcoin for a centralized altcoin or a pieces of fiat papers. Good luck waiting on another Satoshi for many many generations.
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How about you stop discussing toilets in this thread?
Better analogy than bridges but I agree. But there really is no interesting proposal on the table. I suggest let's wait for Satoshi to return. Maybe if Bitcoin survives the 2020 halving we can raise blocksize in 2021
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Anyway guys if you don't like Satoshi's 1MB rule and like big blocks so much why don't you create an altcoin and have some central authority (e.g. you) to decide what the optimal block size should be. And while you have the central authority you can simply be the central authority who signs blocks and issues funds. Problem solved?
Oh wait you're doing an altcoin, but why do you insist on calling it Bitcoin?
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ok let's say there is 10% spam. this means 1800 real transactions and 200 spam. the fees are now for example 0.00014514 so rich spammer paid for example 0.029 per block after 2MB instantly there will still be 1800 real but 2200 spam. but spammer will pay only 0.029 again. this means the spam fee will drop to 0.000013195
So instantly after doubling the minimal fee for real users becomes very small.
Only after a while the real users will discover that fees are so small that they can send much more payments to some shitty services like satoshi dice. Basically some real users will become spammers.
If we could raise block to infinity fees would be zero forever because there is no point paying fees. This way we get infinite spam 1GB block = 1GB of spam etc.
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when we raise the block size (build more toilets) they simply call more fake shitters and fill every booth again
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The problem with the terlit analogy is this: You don't solve the prankster problem by only having one toilet in your mega-restaurant & having your customers try to outbid each other to take a dump. Because that's retarded. People will be shitting themselves while standing in line, the smell would be awful. No self-respecting human being'll ever come to your restaurant, ever well Bitcoin is like the secure public toilets. of course everyone has fiat cash at home so bitcoin doesn't care about instant, supporting world commerce - fiat cash or gold allows this easily. The spammer problem is like people who pretend they shit. We installed shit sensors but they keep flushing dirt and when we knock on the door they cry occupied.
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current bitcoin is like 2000 toilets for whole world
so we have 2000 toilets and everybody needs 10 minutes every day so we can serve 288 000 citizens that's a lot.
but there are spammers who just pay small fee, lock the toilet from inside and climb out to cause inconvenience.
but when you need to go urgently you can use ethereum (shit outside) it's not as secure everyone sees your naked butt but when the you need the capacity and all toilets are full so you take a shit outside.
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Big blocks is not like large bridge but like building 10 toilets now for everybody. so when you will have 8 kids in the future each one can have its own toilet
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And yet... even 1MB blocks are not getting filled up? How is this possible? Last 4 blocks are full. 398392 is only not full because it got mined just 3 minutes after the previous. Anyway full blocks don't prove anything. It just means there is spam again. Any user can pay higher fee than spammer and get confirmed instantly. They are? And yet the blocks are not full? Explain this shit
And what, exactly, would motivate these spammers? I think they simply do not like Bitcoin or want to cause confusion in the community. What is your opinion? Don't miners have the option of ignoring transactions, for any and all reasons?
Why would they? That's censorship.
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We tested rc5 on Debian. it seems to work ok
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on average new block per 10 minutes 144 blocks per day
on chart it looks like straight line nothing special
what exactly you need?
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Someone told you that 2MB limit will make all blocks 2MB? Let me cut out that lying tongue! Nobody told me anything. The spammers will fill any block size and this is a fact. Think of it as an extra traffic lane on a bridge. Sometimes there's no traffic, and the bridge is empty.
But if it gets jammed occasionally (it does), and you're hoping that developers will build up the other side, don't hold your breath: no one will build up an area accessible only by a rickety oxcart bridge.
Spammers are making 1mb blocks full. What do you think they will do with 2MB or 20MB blocks?
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