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Is it really necessary to repeat same post so many times? Only idiot will put now money in .. It looks like making noise around for nothing.. or maybe there is some reason to make noise around?
Don't you think it's worth warning anyone - regardless of your opinion of their level of intelligence - that there's a very real risk they'll lose most or all of their deposit? Regardless, without these "PSA" posts this thread quickly fills up with posts from a very few posters who miraculously keep getting their withdrawals. The PSA posts seem to make this thread more hospitable for people with concerns about lost withdrawals, cancelled withdrawals, etc. |
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Guy, you're starting to give me fear... you will be a kind of Psychological stalker? No more please. Your you're right and I'm the crazy idiot. Is ok you so stop chasing me?
Sure, just walk away - I promise I won't follow you elsewhere! I've already said I don't expect a straight answer out of you. |
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Come man, wander through another site you, smoke a cigarette and drink one beer you relax and you take away the displeasure you have. Hopefully all the worries of life are these things... Regards.
I hope you're right. I'd be considerably more reassured if you - you know - showed some sign of explaining how you can reconcile your professed belief that other people should be warned that they might experience what you've experienced, with your view that the people providing the warnings are idiots and spammers. It just seems odd, all these people desperately wanting to dismiss people providing warnings - and yet, when challenged they eventually claim that they're good people who don't want other people to suffer like they've suffered. I can't explain it - maybe they simply didn't think before they posted, or maybe they knew exactly what they were doing. I want to assume good faith, but it's happening far too often to put it down to a lack of thought. |
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Are you insinuating something with that?
Yes. I'm insinuating that it'll take way too long to get a straight answer out of you, you'll attempt to derail the conversation, and then try and minimise your evasiveness. Does that answer you question? Why is it so crucial for ti to know what I think? am I so important to you to lose so much time? Come Uncle there are more things in life to worry about. You Do not dwell more on the same. Because there are a number of posters here who make drive-by comments (such as yours) that - deliberately or accidentally - try to discourage or diminish warnings. Coincidentally these posters are evasive when challenged. I'm starting to see a pattern, and I keep desperately hoping that someone will disprove my concerns. |
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Are you insinuating something with that?
Yes. I'm insinuating that it'll take way too long to get a straight answer out of you, you'll attempt to derail the conversation, and then try and minimise your evasiveness. Does that answer you question? |
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Based on your experience, don't you think other people should be warned that they might experience what you've experienced? Or would you prefer more people to lose money too?
Yes. And yet you dismiss people who issue warnings as "spammers" and "idiots". I'm not going to push this any further - I'd be fascinated to learn how you can reconcile these two contrary positions, but it's taken far too long to get an answer to a simple question, so I'll not push it. If you are willing to answer quickly and honestly, though, that would be very welcome. More faster and concise to "Yes"? :O Serious friend, I want is to withdraw my money and fly of here. I look for my own interests (my money) not by what others... This surely not understand or feel the spamers that said this is a fraud and over have not invested nothing or almost nothing. Otherwise I can not understand how stones may pull on your roof... I am sincere? Yes... and I am sure that my feeling is shared by many. Regards. I asked the question at 08:27 my time (UTC+1); you eventually answered at 12:19. So yes, faster than that. But if you don't want to / can't answer then that's fine. To be honest, I have my answer already. I just wanted to make sure other people have it too. |
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Based on your experience, don't you think other people should be warned that they might experience what you've experienced? Or would you prefer more people to lose money too?
Yes. And yet you dismiss people who issue warnings as "spammers" and "idiots". I'm not going to push this any further - I'd be fascinated to learn how you can reconcile these two contrary positions, but it's taken far too long to get an answer to a simple question, so I'll not push it. If you are willing to answer quickly and honestly, though, that would be very welcome. |
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OK, as a gesture of good faith:
0. (You probably know this and wouldn't, but just in case...) Don't deposit any more money with scrypt.cc. This is logical.
1. Keep attempting withdrawals. no It adds nothing new
2. Try different sizes of withdrawal - people here sometimes have better luck with small (<0.1 BTC) withdrawals. I'm not sure, but I think larger withdrawals may have worked on the most recent occasion.
Is not my case I have only 3 btcs, but for those who have more than 10 btcs? How long need, only withdraw a <0,1?
3. Speak to the police in your jurisdiction, particularly financial police or police who deal with fraud. Logically be the risk of investing in these sites and am not so desperate to get to that point.
4. Speak to a lawyer. If the costs of doing so would be too high, compared with what you've lost or are unable to recover, then speak to other people in your jurisdiction and consider pooling resources for a lawyer. Logically be the risk of investing in these sites and am not so desperate to get to that point.
Derailment over. Back to you. Let's have an answer.
You has truly been of very little help, I know that your can do better, go try it best. Nice try, but your attempt to derail this is over. Back to the original question: Based on your experience, don't you think other people should be warned that they might experience what you've experienced? Or would you prefer more people to lose money too?
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I'm tired of answering you, now it's your turn, i know you not going it to do. Therefore to do anything else. Best regards. What advice or like you think I can get my money back?
OK, as a gesture of good faith: 0. (You probably know this and wouldn't, but just in case...) Don't deposit any more money with scrypt.cc. 1. Keep attempting withdrawals. 2. Try different sizes of withdrawal - people here sometimes have better luck with small (<0.1 BTC) withdrawals. I'm not sure, but I think larger withdrawals may have worked on the most recent occasion. 3. Speak to the police in your jurisdiction, particularly financial police or police who deal with fraud. 4. Speak to a lawyer. If the costs of doing so would be too high, compared with what you've lost or are unable to recover, then speak to other people in your jurisdiction and consider pooling resources for a lawyer. Derailment over. Back to you. Let's have an answer. |
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Uncle, I am already tired of answering you, I think that everyone who is reading understands perfectly what I said... you are a pedantic you not realize? why do not answer my question? If you want to, and if not then nothing.
Now yes, short and close. Can you tell me that I flee as coward and whatever else you want. That you do well.
I understand what you said about wanting your money back. What I don't understand is " if - as you claim - you don't want other people to experience what you've experienced - why would you then dismiss people warning other people as "spammers" and "idiots"? How do you think other people thinking of investing are going to find out about the risk unless people warn them?" You'll recall that I asked much earlier: Based on your experience, don't you think other people should be warned that they might experience what you've experienced? Or would you prefer more people to lose money too?
...and I'm still waiting for an answer. Look, I appreciate it's tiring, being made to justify drive-by comments. I appreciate it's tempting to try and derail the conversation by asking a completely unrelated question - you're not the first person to try it, and I doubt you'll be the last. Anyway, if you're so uncertain of your comments regarding "spammers" and "idiots" that you have to flee, I guess that's a result. What advice or like you think I can get my money back? That would be the derailing I mentioned. Why don't you focus on answering what you've been asked, and then we could move on to new questions. |
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Uncle, I am already tired of answering you, I think that everyone who is reading understands perfectly what I said... you are a pedantic you not realize? why do not answer my question? If you want to, and if not then nothing.
Now yes, short and close. Can you tell me that I flee as coward and whatever else you want. That you do well.
I understand what you said about wanting your money back. What I don't understand is " if - as you claim - you don't want other people to experience what you've experienced - why would you then dismiss people warning other people as "spammers" and "idiots"? How do you think other people thinking of investing are going to find out about the risk unless people warn them?" You'll recall that I asked much earlier: Based on your experience, don't you think other people should be warned that they might experience what you've experienced? Or would you prefer more people to lose money too?
...and I'm still waiting for an answer. Look, I appreciate it's tiring, being made to justify drive-by comments. I appreciate it's tempting to try and derail the conversation by asking a completely unrelated question - you're not the first person to try it, and I doubt you'll be the last. Anyway, if you're so uncertain of your comments regarding "spammers" and "idiots" that you have to flee, I guess that's a result. |
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Logically, I invest a few months ago when withdrawal is to normally. Repeat spammers & co. no help me. And of course I do not want the same feeling for others .. but now i ask you, What advice or like you think I can get my money back?
OK, so if - as you claim - you don't want other people to experience what you've experienced - why would you then dismiss people warning other people as "spammers" and "idiots"? How do you think other people thinking of investing are going to find out about the risk unless people warn them? |
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I like to have my humble little money back. <- this you understand true? And the spammers and co. not help me, in this case help new who wish to invest.
What advice or like you think I can get my money back?
Correct. I understand that you'd like to get your money back. What I want to know is why you disparage as "spammers" and "idiots" people who are helping other people. Surely you realise that if you'd seen a "PSA" from these people before you deposited money with scrypt.cc then you might well not be in the position you're in now? Surely you have enough empathy to not want other people to experience what you've experienced? |
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My position is that it is easy to understand. .. seems you do not want to understand it .. it's your problem. You are willing to give many turns always the same. I do not think there is not much more to discuss?
Sorry but my language is not English, (not an excuse) but if it costs me to express myself more work for what the translator.
OK, then explain your position. You care about getting your money back, correct? You also care about dismissing other posters as "spammers" and "idiots" because they care about you (and others) getting your money back, correct? I'm trying to understand why - when people are trying to prevent other people from experiencing what you've experienced - you'd dismiss them as "spammers" and "idiots". Note that the theme of "calls idiots" not I started it... but you seem to hurt more my message .. xD I am considering the possibility of putting a special category of idiocy just for you. While you do that, could you answer the question? OK, then explain your position.
You care about getting your money back, correct?
You also care about dismissing other posters as "spammers" and "idiots" because they care about you (and others) getting your money back, correct?
I'm trying to understand why - when people are trying to prevent other people from experiencing what you've experienced - you'd dismiss them as "spammers" and "idiots".
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The only thing I want is to get my money, and I repeat that you can think what they want. And with this I end ping pong. Regards.
That's not entirely true, now, is it? You also wanted to disparage the people with more empathy than you as "idiots" and "spammers". I'm trying to understand why. If you want to end "ping pong", it's probably best if you limit your comments to things that you are prepared to discuss, otherwise when you're challenged you'll end up running away with your tail between your legs. My position is that it is easy to understand. .. seems you do not want to understand it .. it's your problem. You are willing to give many turns always the same. I do not think there is not much more to discuss? Sorry but my language is not English, (not an excuse) but if it costs me to express myself more work for what the translator. OK, then explain your position. You care about getting your money back, correct? You also care about dismissing other posters as "spammers" and "idiots" because they care about you (and others) getting your money back, correct? I'm trying to understand why - when people are trying to prevent other people from experiencing what you've experienced - you'd dismiss them as "spammers" and "idiots". |
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That's what I am saying, IF there is no bull run and we fall back to single digits because Bitcoin XT has won, the bagholders will start jumping from windows....
The early adopters (like the one who cashed in 250 BTC to pay off his mortgage) didn't pay single digits for their BTC. I got in late (9 months after the 250 BTC guy), and my first 50 BTC cost me 4 days in CPU time. The 250 BTC guy got out before GPU mining started (he mentioned he didn't want to get involved in the mining "arms race"). Even if an early adopter purchased their BTC, they'd still be looking at well under $1/BTC - that didn't happen until early 2011. In case of XT win they will be bagholders, period. Despite not loosing money and making good profit at even 1$. It is mostly psychological. I think that Gavin & Mike will drive Chinese mining obsolete. US wants to be the only guy in town IMO. Well, OK then, I'm a bagholder and they're bagholders. I can't see anyone from that period "jumping from windows" if the price went all the way to zero. We didn't spend significant sums of money on BTC back then, and in my case (and, I imagine, in many other cases) we've long since made more money that we had any right to expect in the early days. If BTC hits zero I'll be sorry that an experiement failed, but I won't be suicidal! |
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The only thing I want is to get my money, and I repeat that you can think what they want. And with this I end ping pong. Regards.
That's not entirely true, now, is it? You also wanted to disparage the people with more empathy than you as "idiots" and "spammers". I'm trying to understand why. If you want to end "ping pong", it's probably best if you limit your comments to things that you are prepared to discuss, otherwise when you're challenged you'll end up running away with your tail between your legs. |
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It's a bad time to cash out though. They should hold till the next bull wave.
That's what I am saying, IF there is no bull run and we fall back to single digits because Bitcoin XT has won, the bagholders will start jumping from windows.... The early adopters (like the one who cashed in 250 BTC to pay off his mortgage) didn't pay single digits for their BTC. I got in late (9 months after the 250 BTC guy), and my first 50 BTC cost me 4 days in CPU time. The 250 BTC guy got out before GPU mining started (he mentioned he didn't want to get involved in the mining "arms race"). Even if an early adopter purchased their BTC, they'd still be looking at well under $1/BTC - that didn't happen until early 2011. |
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It seems to me that it would make far more sense for the OP to post their predictions openly, here, and then ask someone to quote them (so we know the predictions haven't been altered by the OP). Like other posters there's no way I'm downloading some random binary file off the internet.
Bullshit. You can't edit a vault which is uploaded on the cloud. And OP has not edited his post even once. I didn't say you could edit a Truecrypt vault uploaded to the cloud. I said it would make far more sense to post their predictions here and then ask someone to quote them. That would achieve the same effect as uploading a vault, without any risk to us from downloading an unknown binary. I still feel that - and it rather looks like a number of other posters are wary of downloading an unknown binary, too. |
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