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941  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Speculation (Altcoins) / Re: ETH price soaring. Are you going to move some BTC into ETH? on: November 14, 2016, 01:06:19 PM
As  i  observe on eth  too  it stabilizes  its price somewhere  on  10-10.5$ which  is   low  already compared to  its previous price  of $15 each  but  still  its  high  though. Same as  others think  here  this is the  lowest  price of   eth  thats why  its  ideal to  buy  more eth  now   and  i think  this coin would  really have a good  potential  on   longer terms  just  like what  happen on  bitcoin  when  it was just starting.

If the ZCash price stablise in the $10 range, it means the initial investors into the ZCash developer company will lose money.

I feel the same way, ETH could still go lower but you are pushing your luck, this is the time to buy before there is any sort of big announcement. It didn't dip below $10, just temporarily. Hey I would love to get it below $5 but that's not gonna happen unless there are devastating news (like actual devastating, much more than a fork/hack like the DAO!).

The price in terms of BTC is a steal too, which was in pump mode for the last month like I called it. Bitcoin won't cross $800 price anytime, every year it appreciates a little but people expecting 1, 5 or 10k per Bitcoin now are deluded.

BTC will level out at $650 or so, it's way oversold already and if the stock market continues to be bullish we'll see it drop along with gold.
942  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN] SINGULARDTV (ETHEREUM) - Launch Completed! on: November 14, 2016, 12:50:43 PM
Sometimes the key is patience. I have bought during the ICO and bought some tokens at 1300-1500 sat range.
This is the  accumulating phase  Cool

This is the time to fill your bags really, nothing has changed and the project has been financed, they are working on it guys and it's a well respected team. Ethereum troubles has plagued all tokens but if you believe in the ecosystem and future there's no better time to buy (either ETH or SNGLs). SNGLS especially are very undervalued in my opinion, it costs almost nothing to get 100k of them and that's a very good share of the whole "company" and project if you think about it. Especially considering you are getting actual equity with dividends.

I'm personally very interested for them to invest in UJO Music. There are a lot of well connected people on both teams and they can really make some waves.
943  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: 2016/17 NBA Season on: November 14, 2016, 12:42:34 PM
Detroit Pistons vs Oklahoma City Thunder I think this clash will be worth to watch and it would get very close result but I will pick over 200 points, both teams have equal chance to win this fight than over points will be nice there.
I just lost my trust with Oklahoma Thunder, they lose 3 straight games at home and not they are playing against a defensive team on the road. I guess i Know the winner of this one or should I say that westbrook is exposed, he cannot win alone and he need someone to step up with a Durant Caliber.

It's not pleasing to see you have a double-double or triple double game and in the end you still lose. What matters in game is winning not your personal record.

OKC started with a bang but they won't be able to maintain that level. Sabonis and Oladipo are nice additions but they are far from the team that once were. They are actually overachieving and surprising a lot of people. I honestly think that it would be a surprise if they end up getting in the playoffs but there's a strong chance it could happen as the rest of the west has been very weak so far except for a couple of teams.

It all depends on Westbrook of course, the games I watched he single handedly won (or lose it) for them, he has improved a lot in recent years but he's still a nut case at crunch time, both on offense and defense.
944  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN] ICONOMI - Fund Management Platform on: November 11, 2016, 04:29:52 PM

For kicks, let's assume that $700K goes straight to token holders instead.  $700K / 100,000,000 ICN tokens = $0.007 / ICN ANNUALLY. So let's say you have 10K ICN you would make $70 ANNUALLY if paid WEEKLY you'd get $1.35 which is 0.13 ETH or so.

Bottomline, until the OFM gets going and people really throw money into this don't expect any real dividends.

make that $700k/87,000,000

If they're smart enough,  they'll choose to forfeit their part of the dividends for the first few years.

Doesn't make it much more attractive, but yes theoretically, but the payments are based on a smart contract so I doubt they programmed in an exception like that, an ICN is an ICN in that contract.

And like I said earlier, I don't know how they keep afloat without subtracting costs from revenue, so I don't see how we'll be paid anything at all for a while unless they are pulling salaries from the first $5M of the ICO for a year or two.

I don't see a lot of profits coming from the actual performance and index funds initially (unless they really can get some big whales investors) but if Iconomi is popular and becomes similar to eToro or Zulutrade for crypto then the sky is really the limit. Who wouldn't want to get a share of Poloniex or eToro business? haha
945  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN] Ethereum: Welcome to the Beginning on: November 10, 2016, 09:12:21 PM

No good news and attacks, forks and focus on Bitcoin is what's happening. I think they are working very quietly during this hard time and when there's a little bit of news a new rally will start. This is the time when you buy if you really believe in Ethereum or consider the price has bottommed out.

While in terms of BTC the price has plummeted, I considered my investment in fiat money (similar to Bitcoin) because Ethereum is mostly traded and bought with fiat too. That's why the $10 support level hasn't break (perhaps only temporary for less than an hour).
946  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Does experience matter in gambling? on: November 10, 2016, 09:08:17 PM
Life experience definitely matters, especially being wise and cold headed. You should treat gambling as an entertainment not as a way of getting rich and this is one of the most common problems for addicts. If you can consider your money gone the minute you bet you would be much better off. If you lose, well you had a good time playing and if you win that's awesome, a deal you won't get paying for a movie ticket or a game.
947  Economy / Games and rounds / Re: DirectBet Soccer Prediction Game *** Win Free Bets ! *** Free to Enter ! on: November 10, 2016, 03:06:20 PM
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948  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Speculation (Altcoins) / Re: ETH price soaring. Are you going to move some BTC into ETH? on: November 09, 2016, 02:21:34 PM
It's really not doing that great if you ask me. Volume has been weak and it's still declining.

Yes, downtrend continues at least in terms of BTC, but remains stable with strong support at $10-10.5. It will rally again once the next fork is announced as usual and will most likely reach $12-13 again.
949  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: 2016/17 NBA Season on: November 08, 2016, 08:08:35 PM
The Sixers are fine, they almost beat Cleveland but they are just too green to play at their level, especially at the end of the games. I'm sure if Simmons was healthy they would have a much better record. Embiid has been very impressive so far, Saric looks lost though.

The Pelicans are the definition of a mediocre NBA team, Anthony Davis should request a trade really, what's the point?
950  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN] ICONOMI - Fund Management Platform on: November 07, 2016, 03:11:04 PM
Lots of talk here but is there anyone that has ACTUAL INSIDE or GOOD TECH ANALYSIS info as to this coin/project and reasoning it shoudl go to moon?  I now am Ok with it after seeing the work involved and I buy some, so I hope for success!!!

ICN.Performance calculations: https://www.reddit.com/r/ICONOMI/comments/5bi5em/what_defines_success_for_icnp/?st=iv8657jp&sh=9aa1be99

+ICN token value rise by speculation etc
+Dividends from INDEX fund
+Dividends from Open Fund Management platform fees after it's launched



Honestly it's a very naive theory since it doesn't take into account that crypto currency is a highly volatile and risk prone investment of course it will yield better numbers compared to Nasdaq. It's like saying it's a no brainer to put your money in the stock market instead of bonds because it will earn more.

I'm holding long term since many of us believe blockchain and crypto startups will be huge in the upcoming years and I can see ICN worth well above $1 in the upcoming years. If it doesn't pan out it means the whole market would never catch on basically or Iconomi failed to attract investors (which I doubt, it doesn't need to be that huge to be profitable for token holders really and that's a huge incentive to buy ICN).
951  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: 2016/17 NBA Season on: November 07, 2016, 03:03:32 PM
Los Angeles Lakers vs Phoenix Suns I found very good odds for moneyline @1.649 for Los Angeles Lakers this time. I preferably took these instead of going for total points option which typically it taken as alternative of it. I consider this match an easy victory for Los Angeles Lakers being at home with some huge margin of points.
Lakers have won last two very difficult game against Atlanta and GSW and i dont think that they will have enough  strength to win next game against Suns, i dont advice you to pick this game, Lakers is very unstable now and no one knows what will happens

anyway, good luck to you
Lakers aren't making the playoffs. But at least now we are starting to see an idea of what this team is about.

There's the beginnings of an identity and it looks pretty good. These guys are so damn young still.
You cannot tell that, by the way they play you can tell that they have a good chemistry and since they are young and healthy this season, probably they can beat good teams. They have been playing pretty awesome at the start of the season and beating the warriors is already a big accomplishment.

They did it last season and they did again this time.

I think the Lakers will surprise this season. I know they have a bright future but I think its already starting this season. Who knows, they have nothing to loose this season and they are proving to everyone, kudos to coach Luke Walton.

The Lakers only need an all star to be a force to be reckoned with in the near future, the team is playing great and compared to other similar young and upcoming teams like Philly and Minny they look much more focused even if they lack individual star potential (like Wiggins, Towns or Embiid).

The Mozgov sign was ridiculous though especially for that amount of money but if they can get a franchise player (maybe they already have one!) they would be great. Anthony Davis would be amazing for example.
952  Economy / Games and rounds / Re: DirectBet Soccer Prediction Game *** Win Free Bets ! *** Free to Enter ! on: November 06, 2016, 01:57:23 PM
HT : Arsenal 0 - 0 Tottenham
FT : Arsenal 0 - 0 Tottenham
953  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: 2016/17 NBA Season on: November 05, 2016, 04:24:16 PM
Like many of us predicted, the Warriors are very far away from being a team. But it's not only about chemistry and lack of knowledge. They really messed up the roster. They though Pachulia and David West (who should be retired already) would replace Speights, Ezeli, Barbosa, Bogut and Barnes. Yes that's right, say all you want about them but they were a core part of the team, very solid role players (some well above average). Pachulia and West are old hacks (well mostly West).

To add fuel to the fire, Thompson is a shadow of himself this season. Just a single injury to one of these players (even Iguodala) would be devastating for them. The only positive note I see is that they are not worried about winning or chasing a record but to improve their game. It's better to keep improving than to peak and decline like they did last season. But it's not easy as we saw with similar power teams (much less talented than this starting warriors lineup) like Miami or Cleveland, they don't usually go all the way in their first year.
954  Economy / Services / Re: [FULL] Rollin.io Signature & Avatar Campaign on: November 05, 2016, 04:17:23 PM
I'm just checking in to say that I'm very grateful to be in this campaign, I don't even know which others are currently active but Rollin.io must be the best by far. I don't come here very often and that's actually a great compliment, it means payment is always on time and wonderfully managed by guitarplinker (I just received my monthly share).

Keep up the good work!

955  Economy / Games and rounds / Re: DirectBet Soccer Prediction Game *** Win Free Bets ! *** Free to Enter ! on: November 05, 2016, 01:45:35 PM
Chelsea 0-0 Everton
Chelsea 0-0 Everton
956  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Speculation (Altcoins) / Re: ETH price soaring. Are you going to move some BTC into ETH? on: November 04, 2016, 04:08:14 PM
Lol I'm beginning to believe my own shit in this thread, I feel like nostradamus.

You said it seemed it wouldn't go below $10 a page back, so I wouldn't start crowing too loudly.  Wink

Lol don't be like that, that one barely counts it was very brief and just a few cents  Grin

Now the BTC dump was epic and I called it half an hour before (100% pure coincidence of course haha!).
957  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Speculation (Altcoins) / Re: ETH price soaring. Are you going to move some BTC into ETH? on: November 03, 2016, 03:46:45 PM
Bitcoin pump will end soon, yes that's right, this is just a pump based on lighting network, segwit and yuan losing power. It will come back down to low 600s soon.

Lol I'm beginning to believe my own shit in this thread, I feel like nostradamus.
958  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Speculation (Altcoins) / Re: ETH price soaring. Are you going to move some BTC into ETH? on: November 03, 2016, 02:21:15 PM
The Ethereum price broke below 0.014 bitcoin earlier. But the dollar price is still above $10.0 now.

My instincts are telling me sub 0.01, but I'm hesitant to listen closely to them given the number of unexpected rallies (and whales) this thing has.

It can go sub 0.01 but I'm also hesitant to expect a big drop in terms of fiat, the maximum I can see it fall is $7-8 and that's not a given, clear support is at $10 for now and I don't think it will break unless there are some very bad news.

On the other hand, any kind of good news would create a small rally (it has been very quiet after devcon2 and with plenty of bad news concerning the constant attacks).

My investment on Ethereum is in fiat right now so I'm not concerned at all, I'm not day trading this anymore since it's not very logical. We'll see how it goes in an year or so.

Bitcoin pump will end soon, yes that's right, this is just a pump based on lighting network, segwit and yuan losing power. It will come back down to low 600s soon.
959  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN][rICO]Antshares Blockchain Mainnet is ONLINE! on: November 02, 2016, 04:18:26 PM
anyone encountering problems with the web wallet not syncing is probably because of your network settings, especially with anti-virus softwares.

we have tested the web wallet in Japan, UK, US and several other network environments.

The problem on my side is that it is quite slow, have been doing this for more than 5 days and I have not reached 50%. Any help in speeding up the process

Same here, I can only get it to sync to about 1% and that alone takes an hour or more...nobody has time for that. I'm using a mac with a chrome browser (I thought the problem was with Safari). I can't run a full node and I don't want to either, there should be a light wallet option to manage our Antshares, I'm not dumping the coins but at this point it would be much better to just send them to Bittrex really.
960  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN] FACTOM - Introducing Honesty to Record-Keeping on: November 01, 2016, 07:41:51 PM
We've all been waiting - but even if big news occurs that some company or other plans on buying 100 million entry credits per month, that still doesn't justify the current price at 73k per month inflation rate. I'm sure there will be a mini rally when M2 is finally here (and if that doesn't happen before christmas - expect fct to halve in value from here), but I think we'll be waiting for quite some time before we see usage figures for entry credits justifying a value of say 5 dollars per factoid. Who knows though, maybe speculation will help out.

I don't understand the fear about that inflation rate, it's not even a million per year. In ten years after M3 there would be around 18M FCT, so what, that's nothing? Ethereum has inflation too and it reached $20.

I remind you that price per FCT is $2...

And that is without counting any burned entries which I'm sure there would a lot, maybe not to be deflationary but still.
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