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41  Bitcoin / Project Development / Re: Bitcoin ATM code is now officially an open source effort. on: April 24, 2012, 09:25:47 PM
Todd, what ever happened to the Bitcoin ATM? I remember watching a Youtube video on it and thinking "wow! That'd be cool to use!" but then I never heard anything about it. Why did it fail?

Click on his username and look up old posts. Epic fallout between him and devs. That and would be difficult to implement unless dropped in major cities, and expensive to run you'd need Brinks to go pick up the money every week, and insurance.

Would be easier to approach existing currency exchange "cambios" and give them a simple system where they can buy/sell bitcoins for cash to walk ins. No multinational chains just small exchange storefronts. They already exist and have insurance, licenses and cash ready.

All you would need is some F/T traders who can idle in jabber all day and transfer coins to whatever address the customer brings in. Then no problems with wallets being hacked, these traders know what they're doing and have offline wallets. Everything is cash only, no training for the merchant they just ask for coins in chat and provide address. Merchant settles to your bank account end of day. Just need to float them coins for 24hrs. For cash out you'd have to come to some daily settle agreement with them or provide $5k cash float up front. Your site would take the coins and generate some sort of crypto signed receipt they can walk in with and cash that can't be forged, that they can somehow verify. Again, chat comes into play they can just hop on it and ask the trader 'is this legit?' and get a yes/no.

Bitinstant could probably set this up for existing businesses, though better if more decentralization like individual small bitcoin traders in each city doing this on their own instead of one giant monopoly that could be a target for authorities, fraud and whatever other problems. Then everybody in the world just goes to a local office in person and does instant cash trade the way bitcoin was meant to be no banks or holds or ach/dwolla fraud, no ID scans sitting in an insecure databse or western union nonsense. y/n?
42  Economy / Trading Discussion / Re: betco.in's a ghost town now? on: April 24, 2012, 08:15:47 PM
Check opensc.ws for all the current wallet stealers. If you had FTP open could be how
43  Economy / Trading Discussion / Re: betco.in's a ghost town now? on: April 24, 2012, 08:03:41 PM
That's crazy. Sure your VPN provider isn't linode or something Smiley I've always assumed VPN providers spy on everybody's traffic and wait for a good score or information.

Did you run apache or something in the background? or have sshd running? check /etc/init.d/ see what is auto loading in there. Not like ubuntu is the most secure distro in the world but still amazing your wallet got ripped. Did you use public key ssh logins or insecure passwords?

If you want to shut it down, could always keep the domain and make it a gambling information blog and fill it with referral links. betco.in is a good domain
44  Economy / Marketplace / Re: Intersango Exchange on: April 24, 2012, 07:55:31 PM
America does NOT have jurisdiction outside of America.

They do now. Check the latest FinCEN ruling active April 1st. Anybody doing business with American's exchanging 'currency' including online digital currency [according to dgc magazine] is at risk of having all their bank accounts seized and possible extradition. No lie

Russians are safe but the rest of our countries are led by feeble corporatists that will just hand you over

EDIT.. this of course depends if bitcoin is considered a currency, and not a "hobby" as one guy found out. I wouldn't risk it
45  Economy / Marketplace / Re: Intersango Exchange on: April 24, 2012, 07:46:23 PM
500 - internal server error :(((((( <-- mfw I couldn't trade. Do they have a status blog anywhere?

I also recommend Intersango stop accepting American clients unless they have msb license. Starting April 1, Obama can sweep in and seize all of your bank accounts including foreign one's just for doing one trade with an American without having msb license. Utter bullshit, most WMZ/LR exchangers outside of Russia have stopped all trades with US
46  Economy / Trading Discussion / Re: Canadianbitcoins.com btc -> cash in mail experiences?? on: April 24, 2012, 03:32:41 AM
I use a po box too so they sign for everything if I'm not around, otherwise card for p/u.. wait another day to go get it.
wm-center.com is the same in fees if you want instant western union cashout. they sell for market rate but you pay WU fees.. in the end it's the same amount.
47  Economy / Trading Discussion / Re: Canadianbitcoins.com btc -> cash in mail experiences?? on: April 24, 2012, 03:14:42 AM
I was wondering if anyone here has used the btc - > cash via xpress post service that they offer?

I am very interested in using this service, but I would like to hear from others who have used this service...

Works as advertised I've used it a few times took 2 days to receive via xpresspost and 3 days a different time.
48  Economy / Currency exchange / [sold] on: April 24, 2012, 03:08:26 AM
xferred on irc. great success
49  Economy / Trading Discussion / Re: Dwolla now purposely delays USD withdrawals from Bitcoin exchanges on: April 24, 2012, 02:34:32 AM
I believe you were goxxed. Dwolla sucks, it's just Paypal 2.0 no matter what revolutionary claims their website has. Maybe you can ask MtGox to cancel the pending transaction, generate MtGox USD and sell it somewhere. If Dwolla requires additional holds it would be faster to mail cash to each other.
50  Economy / Currency exchange / Re: WTT $110 Dwolla for 20 BTC on: April 24, 2012, 12:52:26 AM
If no takers bitfloor I think still can accept Dwolla without the new restrictions https://bitfloor.com/
51  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Bitcoin the enabler - Truly Autonomous Software Agents roaming the net on: April 24, 2012, 12:34:13 AM
I think this one may take a little while to materialize - but simple versions could appear once there are enough for-bitcoin hosting/cloud services.

For the first time, there exists the possibility for a software agent to roam the internet with it's own wallet.
Using Bitcoin - It could purchase the resources it needs to survive (hosting/cpu/memory) and sell services to other agents or to humans.

To be truly effective and survive 'out there on the net' long term, you'd probably need some basic AI and the ability to move itself between service providers occasionally - but even a relatively dumb agent might survive for a while.

What initial goals such agent's might be given is anyone's guess. Funneling back to the programmer any profit  over and above what the agent needs to survive would be the obvious case, and of course many such agents might be considered 'nefarious' depending on how they're programmed to achieve that goal.  Other agents might be designed to provide free services or act in a way to support some piece of internet infrastructure.

A really interesting development would be if someone released a bunch of these things with a Genetic Algorithm component so that they 'bred' with each other in order to find the best balance between profit and durability.

Anyone know of examples of people discussing or working on this?  

What if it becomes self aware. SKYNET
This is a truly awesome idea. We could make bets to see how long it survives
52  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Future of Money Conf- Some feedback and pic on: April 24, 2012, 12:14:13 AM
Kind of like Paynearme vouchers in 7-11? That'd be awesome. There is of course, one problem: Online gambling. All the prepaid vouchers in US have to promise they can't be used to gamble online. Paysafecard had to make special USD vouchers that no online gambling site can use, same with Paynearme.

If you can get around this would be epic, Ukash will be pissed they can't get into the US market and have been trying for years
53  Economy / Currency exchange / Re: BTC for Check/Money Order/"Bill Pay" via bank on: April 24, 2012, 12:01:45 AM
Just wondering if anyone is interested in buying BTC with a check/money order, bill pay/person2person, or "send a check" feature through their bank. I'd be willing to sell some BTC this way, but I'd have to wait for the check to clear.

Also, if anyone has electric orange ING checking, it's free and instant.

Cheques and Online billing is dangerous and can be charged back months later. You could cash out bitcoins this way but I wouldn't receive payments like that if I were you. Money order and cash is best imho. Just look at the Dwolla reversal fiasco and lawsuit. Nothing to stop a fraudster using online billing with a stolen account to pay you or with fake or stolen cheques
54  Economy / Currency exchange / Re: Neteller on: April 23, 2012, 11:50:39 PM
Last I heard of Neteller they were arrested by the FBI for gambling payment charges. Had no idea they were still around
55  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Ben Milne (Dwolla) and Jered Kenna (Tradehill) will be at "Future of Money" Conf on: April 23, 2012, 11:48:22 PM
Saying anything to him would jeapordize the legal case, or talking about in public with anybody there or here. Waiting for big payday and justice against Dwolla seizing your money or throw it all away being stupid. Hmm.
56  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Eliminating Captcha's w/ Bitcoin on: April 23, 2012, 11:44:26 PM
1 BTC is too much, smallest satoshi demonination would work well enough to prevent spam bots easily for forums like here or GLBSE though free whitelisting seems to work fine so far. Or simply having to upload a gpg key that matched your registration email. Spam bots would esplode from all the key generation they'd have to do constantly. Bonus of keys would be PM to PM encryption.
57  Other / Off-topic / Re: Police need to find Atlas on: April 23, 2012, 11:36:58 PM
*bump*

Trolling or not, there's some seriously thoughtless human beings being harsh about it on this forum, hiding behind their computers whilst they type.

It's a shame that the internet does this to people.

One thing I learnt being an EMT for the last 16 years of my life is that 99% of the persons who really wish to end their life don't give out warnings nor do they "attempt", they just do it!

Besides, nobody knows if Jon is Atlas. People just assumed it and he carried on with the joke.

Somebody could've logged into his account too, note all the 4chan pranks over the years hijacking facebook accounts and posting suicide notes
58  Economy / Currency exchange / Re: btc-e.com uses an invalid security certificate on: April 23, 2012, 11:24:42 PM
Works fine using both convergence.io SSL checks and regular comodo issued cert in Iceweal 11.0 for debian which is basically firefox
59  Economy / Currency exchange / Re: Paysafecard for BTC on: April 23, 2012, 11:22:37 PM
Anybody who wants to do this set up your own decoy site and apply to a payment gateway with the lowest amount of fees that accepts paysafe and ukash. They ACH the money to your bank account usually 2x a week. Add the codes yourself to the gateway and just take them anonymous and encrypted through your regular website. Switch up socks proxies and stuff so it's not one IP always buying stuff on your decoy site. Maybe that would work for awhile until assholes start sending you stolen codes, though you can always make a dozen decoy sites with different payment gateways for backup if one freezes your account. Find the one's who don't charge a monthly fee and are just pay as you go gateways

If you directly apply to Paysafecard they take 1 month to cash you out and you have to jump through so many hoops to get accepted it's ridiculous. It's like they don't want anybody accepting their vouchers and make it as impossible as they can
Someone told me that Paysafecard wants 2500 Euro for payment gateway set up. Did you apply to Paysafecard?

A lot of PServer admins used Paymentwall for Paysafecard cashout. It is easy to set up and they don't want much verification, but I think they charge around 30%.
I think the problem is that Paysafecard to Bitcoin will attract a lot of fraudsters. So you will probably lose money with froozen accounts and/or you will have legal problems.

They officially banned all use of bitcoin with paysafecards though VirWox still uses them somehow. You don't have to directly sign contracts with PSC you can get a payment gateway that accepts them and not have to pay huge money to set up  but totally non recommended at anytime they may seize accounts if they find out you are changing digital currency
60  Economy / Currency exchange / Re: Buy BTC with Master Card on: April 23, 2012, 11:20:41 PM
I use liqpay without any problems, just do multiple small transactions. I thought OKpay still offered it, too bad. Guess it was through AlertPay or something (which just go back their credit card processing)
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