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1  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Tokens (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN][ICO] 🔥ANGEL TOKEN ICO IS OVER 🔥THANK YOU TO OUR 400+ INVESTORS! on: November 04, 2021, 01:18:28 AM
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Hi!
I'm an ICO investor with more than 10k ANGL!
I know only now about refund procedure.
I read your latest communications and found that the deadline could have been postponed to May 30th if ETH fees were high, which then happened.
Is it still possible to request the refund?
Can I proceed with the procedure you illustrated?
Thank you.

Yes, although we want to shut down Angel Token for good we will not do so until we have tried our utmost to refund everyone who believed in us and invested in our ICO (or bought tokens after), and we will continue to do our best to get the remaining funds left in the Angel Token Investment Club back into the hands of everyone who are still holding Angel Tokens. We have therefore decided to once again open the refund window until November 30th, 2021 for those who may have missed the original refund. If this applies to you please follow the instructions above before November 30th and you will be refunded for your ANGL tokens.
2  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Tokens (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN][ICO] 🔥ANGEL TOKEN ICO IS OVER 🔥THANK YOU TO OUR 400+ INVESTORS! on: April 23, 2021, 05:32:35 PM
Hello Guys, I also have an issue. I left my 26K+ ANGL tokens in a MEW wallet and now they are gone. I never moved them because we were told to leave them in the wallet so we would be able to vote..  I'm not sure why they cant be accessed anymore but my other tokens are still there?? I think once they lost value they remove them?  The wallet is still there. Very Strange. Regardless of why I was wondering if anything can be done to retrieve my investment?  Any advice would be appreciated. Thanks.


Hello AngelToken Team and Other Holders,
This is very noble of the team to refund as promised especially during these hard times. Big Thumbs Up - even if i might not get any money back
Just like the poster above me , I had 18K tokens left in MEW in 2018 and I left them there, when i check now there are no tokens - I have never moved them from MyEtherWallet since I received during ICO . I dont know how to get them back or who to approach. Its not much when compared with the losses i saw in other coins but it sure would be nice to see them back. As a last attempt I created an account here and posting this.
If any of the ppl experienced this - Plz advise- If not now I sure as hell would like to see my ANGL tokens


You can check all your token holdings in your (public) address with Etherscan

If you had ANGL and never moved them (or weren't hacked in any way), they are still there. Checking your public address with Etherscan will show all your holdings and transactions on the blockchain.

If you can't see them in the MEW interface, that's because you likely need to add ANGL manually as a token.

Here's a quick and simple video: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ng8JuJnnObE

The details to add in your MEW in order to view your ANGL tokens (if they are indeed there) are:

Contract:

0xc499ea948a1ad5d8eaf12abd2f67975c4dbe21aa

Decimals: 18

Symbol: ANGL

Once you save it correctly you should be able to see them in your MEW wallet.

Following my latest announcement, you now have until May 1st 2021 to do the refunding.
3  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Tokens (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN][ICO] 🔥ANGEL TOKEN ICO IS OVER 🔥THANK YOU TO OUR 400+ INVESTORS! on: April 23, 2021, 05:29:49 PM
To make sure no one is left out, WE HAVE DECIDED TO EXTEND THE REFUND PERIOD UNTIL MAY 1st 2021

Simply return your Angel Tokens (ANGL) at any point when the gas fees are low, (to save on transaction costs) until May 1st, 2021 to the following address:

0xC7D3291CaaBf7Bf1e00a63e20AB584D2208797B5

At some point before June 30th, 2021, (likely much sooner) you will then received your share of what holdings are left in the Angel Token Investment Community Fund sent back to the same address.

MAKE SURE TO RETURN YOUR ANGEL TOKENS FROM AN ADDRESS THAT YOU CONTROL. DO NOT MAKE YOUR RETURN FROM AN EXCHANGE ADDRESS!

To learn more about what happens if you miss the refund date of May 1st, 2021 please read our previous posts in this thread. As we have outlined, although we want to shut down Angel Token we will not do so until we have tried to make everyone whole who believed in us and invested in us during our ICO (or after).

We are doing our best to get the remaining funds left in the Angel Token Investment Club back into the hands of everyone who are still holding Angel Tokens. All Angel Tokens and all all Angel Token holders are treated equally, so whether you bought into our ICO, or acquired ANLG tokens from someone who did, or traded them on an exchange or received them as a reward for helping us or acquired them in any other way doesn't matter, as long as you hold ANGL you are entitled to a refund. This is what the majority of the ATPIC community voted for, and we are now fulfilling your wish.

All that said, if you hold Angel Tokens please return them to the following address IN THE NEXT 8 DAYS, BEFORE May 1st, 2021 and you will receive a refund in the coming weeks/months to the same address you return the ANGL from. This is the safest option by far, and you are assured to get your share of the Angel Token Community Investment Fund.

RETURN YOUR ANGEL TOKENS TO THIS ADDRESS:

0xC7D3291CaaBf7Bf1e00a63e20AB584D2208797B5

Also, if you have already returned your Angel Tokens and received your refund, please comment and let everyone know. Your comment may really help in case anyone thinks we may not keep our word and give them a refund after they have returned their Angel Tokens. This would be much appreciated.
4  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Tokens (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN][ICO] 🔥ANGEL TOKEN ICO IS OVER 🔥THANK YOU TO OUR 400+ INVESTORS! on: April 17, 2021, 01:39:34 AM
Finally thanks @LLec for sincerity I have received my refund I thought I will not be able to get back my investment although not the actual amount I invested but I understand so no problem with me the most important is we able to refund, btw Goodluck to your future endeavors I hope you will be successful and I know you can do it because you are an honest manm thanks again.Smiley     

Thank you very much for your kind words, they are much appreciated! Smiley

Unfortunately we made many investments (that were voted on in the Angel Token Investment Club Community - ATPIC) which completely failed and we lost all invested funds. This is why investors are getting as slightly smaller amount of ETH back than their original investment, but we are pleased to say that thanks to the Angel Token Fund's holdings in ETH and our substantial investment in BAT almost every investor is getting more back in fiat/dollar terms and than they originally invested during the ICO.

Thank you for trusting us as anonymous team, and we wish you all the best going forward as well. Smiley
5  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Tokens (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN][ICO] 🔥ANGEL TOKEN ICO IS OVER 🔥THANK YOU TO OUR 400+ INVESTORS! on: April 17, 2021, 01:21:53 AM
!!!IMPORTANT & URGENT  - ONLY 7 DAYS LEFT TO GET A REFUND!!!

Dear Angel Token Holders,

Further to the previous vote in the Angel Token Private Investment Community (ATPIC) we have now started the refund process, where all Angel Token holders who return their Angel Tokens (ANGL) are entitled to receive a refund from the remaining holdings in the Angel Token Community Investment Fund.

IF YOU HOLD ANGEL TOKENS, WHETHER YOU PURCHASED THEM DURING OUR ICO, OR AT A LATER DATE, YOU ARE ENTITLED TO A REFUND. PLEASE READ THIS MESSAGE AND PREVIOUS UPDATES IN THIS THREAD TO LEARN MORE IF THIS IS NEW INFORMATION TO YOU.

We have now refunded all investors who have returned their Angel Tokens up until April 16th 2021. If you still hold Angel Tokens we urge you to return them as soon as possible to receive your refund in Ethereum (ETH) and Basic Attention Token (BAT). Out of our many crypto investments these two are the only two that have retained any value, but the value is substantial.

So far we have refunded approximately USD $500,000 in ETH and BAT, in today's prices of ETH and BAT.

As you all know we are trying to completely shut down Angel Token, (for many reasons) but we understand that not everyone may want to return their Angel Tokens for a refund, and some people may simply have forgotten about their investment in Angel Token.

Therefore we will continue to use any remaining funds we have left once the refund period has ended and make investments in other crypto projects we believe have great potential to grow in value, until we have either made a substantial return for everyone, (making it worthwhile to once again try to return the funds to any remaining Angel Token holders), or until we have lost those funds.

However, we advise ALL current Angel Token holders to return their ANGL for a refund, unless you hold what is such a small amount to you that it is not worth it, or because you really want to stay in the "Angel Token YOLO Investment Club".

HOWEVER, BE AWARE THAT IF YOU DECIDE TO KEEP YOUR ANGEL TOKENS (RATHER THAN RETURNING THEM FOR A REFUND), IT IS LIKELY YOU WILL LOSE EVERYTHING!
WE OFFER NO GUARANTEES AND THE MOST LIKELY SCENARIO IS THAT YOU LOSE ANY FURTER POSSIBILTY TO A REFUND, IN THE LIKELY EVENT THAT WE LOSE ANY REMAINING FUNDS WE HAVE LEFT AFTER THE REFUND PERIOD HAS ENDED.

WE URGE EVERYONE WHO HOLDS ANGL TO RETURN THEIR ANGEL TOKENS FOR A REFUND BEFORE APRIL 23RD, 2021.


It is very easy to get your refund.

Simply return your Angel Tokens (ANGL) at any point when the gas fees are low, (to save on transaction costs) until April 23rd, 2021 to the following address:

0xC7D3291CaaBf7Bf1e00a63e20AB584D2208797B5

At some point before June 30th, 2021, (likely much sooner) you will then received your share of what holdings are left in the Angel Token Investment Community Fund sent back to the same address.

MAKE SURE TO RETURN YOUR ANGEL TOKENS FROM AN ADDRESS THAT YOU CONTROL. DO NOT MAKE YOUR RETURN FROM AN EXCHANGE ADDRESS!

To learn more about what happens if you miss the refund date of April 23rd, 2021 please read our previous posts in this thread. As we have outlined, although we want to shut down Angel Token we will not do so until we have tried to make everyone whole who believed in us and invested in our ICO (or after).

We are doing our best to get the remaining funds left in the Angel Token Investment Club back into the hands of everyone who are still holding Angel Tokens. All Angel Tokens and all all Angel Token holders are treated equally, so whether you bought into our ICO, or acquired ANLG tokens from someone who did, or traded them on an exchange or received them as a reward for helping us or acquired them in any other way doesn't matter, as long as you hold ANGL you are entitled to a refund. This is what the majority of the ATPIC community voted for, and we are now fulfilling your wish.

All that said, if you hold Angel Tokens please return them to the following address IN THE NEXT 7 DAYS, BEFORE April 23rd, 2021 and you will receive a refund in the coming weeks/months to the same address you return the ANGL from.

This is the safest option by far, and you are assured to get your share of the Angel Token Community Investment Fund.

RETURN YOUR ANGEL TOKENS TO THIS ADDRESS:

0xC7D3291CaaBf7Bf1e00a63e20AB584D2208797B5

Also, if you have already returned your Angel Tokens and received your refund, please comment in this thread to confirm your refund, in case some investors and club members may be hesitant to return their tokens for a refund because they are concerned they will not get their refund. Your help with this is much appreciated!

THERE IS ONLY 7 DAYS LEFT OF THE REFUND PERIOD - PLEASE ACT SOON AND RETURN YOUR ANGL TOKENS FOR A REFUND!
6  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Tokens (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN][ICO] 🔥ANGEL TOKEN ICO IS OVER 🔥THANK YOU TO OUR 400+ INVESTORS! on: March 06, 2021, 01:09:05 AM
@LLec
The fees in eth are really high $30 per transaction and another fees for a refund that will be deducted also from us, why not use the existing technology in order to reduce the fees needed for example you can create another ANGEL token in BSC chain and take a snapshot to old token holders in eth and airdrop the new token in BSC chain its really possible since we can also open our eth wallet in bsc chain after we received the new token in bsc network we can now send it to address for a refund and vice versa using bsc chain with smaller fees.   

Yes, we are aware that the high transaction costs makes it difficult for those who only hold a small amount of Angel Tokens. That is why we have decided to cover all transaction costs involved in the refund process from our own pockets instead. Nothing will be deducted from your refund for the transaction costs, we will cover this cost.

At first we will cover the gas costs from the remaining "Angel Token Yolo Investment Fund" but we will return these funds and cover the transaction costs ourselves, to make everyone who trusted and believed in us as financially whole as we can no matter how much or how little they invested.
7  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Tokens (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN][ICO] 🔥ANGEL TOKEN ICO IS OVER 🔥THANK YOU TO OUR 400+ INVESTORS! on: March 06, 2021, 12:59:35 AM
***IMPORTANT & URGENT*** UPDATE ON ONGOING ANGEL TOKEN REFUND ***IMPORTANT & URGENT***

Dear Angel Token Holders,

Further to the vote inside the Angel Token Private Investment Community (ATPIC) we have now started the refund process, where ALL Angel Token holders who return their Angel Tokens (ANGL) are entitled to receive a refund from the remaining holdings in the Angel Token Community Investmen Fund.

IF YOU HOLD ANGEL TOKENS, WHETHER YOU PURCHASED THEM DURING OUR ICO, OR AT A LATER DATE, YOU ARE ENTITLED TO A REFUND. PLEASE READ THIS MESSAGES AND PREVIOUS UPDATES IN THIS THREAD TO LEARN MORE

We have now refunded all investors who have returned their Angel Tokens up until March 5th 2021, and if you still hold Angel Tokens we urge you to return them as soon as possible to receive your refund in Ethereum (ETH) and Basic Attention Token (BAT), which out of our many crypto investments are the only two that have retained any value.

The largest refund we have made so far amounted to approximately USD $62,500 in ETH and BAT, and the smallest refund so far has been worth around $400 in today's prices of ETH and BAT.

IMPORTANT UPDATE TO OUR REFUND PROCESS

In our earlier statements we advised you to not send back your Angel Tokens for a refund if you owned less than 1,000 - 5,000 ANGL because the high gas fees would eat into your refund so much that it would not make it viable. However, to be as fair as possible also to all small investors who trusted and believed in us we have decided to cover the transaction costs ourselves. At first we will cover the gas costs from the remaining "Yolo Fund" but we will return these funds and cover the transaction costs ourselves, in order to make everyone who trusted and believed in us as financially whole as we can.

If you return your Angel Tokens when the gas cost is relatively low, it may still be viable and worth it for you to return as little as 1,000 Angel Tokens, to get your share of ETH and BAT. The choice is of course yours, and we will not abandon those Angel Token holders who do not return their ANGL for a refund, we will always continue to try and act in your best interest, with whatever means we can.

Although we would prefer to completely shut down Angel Token, (for many reasons) we understand that not everyone may want to return their Angel Tokens for a refund, and some people may simply have forgotten about their investment in Angel Token. Therefore we will continue to use any remaining funds we have left once the refund period has ended and make investments in other crypto projects we believe have great potential to grow in value, until we have either made a substantial return for everyone, (making it worthwhile to once again try to return the funds to any remaining Angel Token holders), or until we have lost those funds.

However, we advise ALL current Angel Token holders to return their ANGL for a refund, unless you hold such a small amount that it is not worth it because of the high transaction costs, or because you really want to stay in the "Angel Token YOLO Investment Club".

HOWEVER, IF YOU DECIDE TO KEEP YOUR ANGEL TOKENS RATHER THAN RETURNING THEM FOR A REFUND, PLEASE UNDERSTAND THAT IT IS LIKELY YOU WILL LOSE EVERYTHING!

WE OFFER NO GUARANTEES AND THE MOST LIKELY SCENARIO IS THAT YOU LOSE ANY FURTER POSSIBILTY TO A REFUND, IN THE LIKELY EVENT THAT WE LOSE ANY REMAINING FUNDS WE HAVE LEFT AFTER THE REFUND PERIOD HAS ENDED. WE URGE EVERYONE WHO HOLDS ANGL TO RETURN THEIR ANGEL TOKENS FOR A REFUND BEFORE APRIL 23RD, 2021.

It is very easy to get your refund.

Simply return your Angel Tokens (ANGL) at any point when the gas fees are low, (to save on transaction costs) until April 23rd, 2021 to the following address:

0xC7D3291CaaBf7Bf1e00a63e20AB584D2208797B5


At some point before June 30th, 2021, (quite likely much sooner) you will then received your share of what holdings are left in the Angel Token Investment Community Fund to the same address.

MAKE SURE TO RETURN YOUR ANGEL TOKENS FROM AN ADDRESS THAT YOU CONTROL. DO NOT MAKE YOUR RETURN FROM AN EXCHANGE ADDRESS!

To learn more about what happens if you miss the refund date of April 23rd, 2021 please read our previous posts in this thread. As we have outlined, although we want to shut down Angel Token we will not do so until we have tried to make everyone whole who believed in us and invested in us during our ICO (or after).

We know that our approach is different from most anonymous ICOs, but our reason for remaining anonymous was never to scam or cheat any of the people who believed in and us and invested their hard earned crypto into the Angel Token ICO. We simply felt that the regulatory environment at the time was so unclear and difficult to navigate for a small group like ours, (and this is also the reason we blocked anyone from the United States or the United Kingdom, and other countries like China and Singapore to take part in our ICO).

We thought it would be better for everyone involved if we simply operated Angel Token as an anonymous investment club, with like-minded investors joining together to vote on, improve and promote crypto projects that we all believed in. This worked reasonably well for the first 12 months or so, but once the crypto winter started we simply could no longer afford to continue operating at the scale and with the team we had put together, and it become very difficult for us to find good projects that we could help. Several of the investments that the community voted on and invested in also turned out to either be scams, (like Envion) or simple disappeared not long after our investment. Embarrassed

Anyway, we are now doing our best to get the remaining funds left in Angel Token Investment Club back into the hands of everyone who are still holding Angel Tokens. All Angel Tokens and all all Angel Token holders are treated equally, so whether you bought into our ICO, or acquired ANLG tokens from someone who did, or traded them on an exchange or received them as a reward for helping us or acquired them in any other way doesn't matter, as long as you hold ANGL you are entitled to a refund. This is what the majority of the community voted for, and we are now fulfilling their wish.

If you are reading this message after April 23rd 2021 and you missed out on returning your Angel Tokens, please subscribe to this thread. In case our future investments succeed we will do our best to either make one or several more liquidations of the investment club funds. We will also try to make several updates per year here for anyone who still holds Angel Tokens. Our intention is to invest any remaining funds in very high risk crypto investments, until they are either lost or have grown substantially.

We will also attempt to create a new Angel Token YOLO Investment Community Forum at some point, where we can discuss potential investments, as our current community will shut down at some point after the refund period has ended.

All that said, if you hold Angel Tokens please return them to the following address before April 23rd, 2021 and you will receive a refund in the coming weeks/months to the same address you return the ANGL from. This is the safest option by far, and you are assured to get your share of the Angel Token Community Investment Fund.

RETURN YOUR ANGEL TOKENS TO THIS ADDRESS:

0xC7D3291CaaBf7Bf1e00a63e20AB584D2208797B5

Also, if you have already returned your Angel Tokens and received your refund, please comment below and let everyone know, in case anyone thinks we may not keep our word and give them a refund after they have returned their Angel Tokens. This would be much appreciated. Smiley
8  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Tokens (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN][ICO] 🔥ANGEL TOKEN ICO IS OVER 🔥THANK YOU TO OUR 400+ INVESTORS! on: February 23, 2021, 01:38:50 AM
Thanks for the update.

I would like to get a refund, but I didnít set the custom token up yet.
Canít find the preferences anymore, as the website is closed.

Could someone help me out with this? Would really appreciate any help  Smiley

I would suggest that you Google "how to add a custom token" + "name of your wallet" as the procedure is slightly different for different wallets.

You then simply enter the contract address: 0xc499ea948a1ad5d8eaf12abd2f67975c4dbe21aa

18 decimals
ANGL

The number of decimals and the code may be pre-filled for you when you enter the contract address.

Then you simple return your ANGL tokens to the following address before April 23rd, 2021:

0xC7D3291CaaBf7Bf1e00a63e20AB584D2208797B5

You will then be refunded with your share of ETH (Ethereum) and BAT (Basic Attention Token) from what is left of the Angel Token Fund at some point before June 30th, 2021 but likely much sooner. Your refund will be sent to the same address that you return your ANGL tokens from.

EDIT: Yes very unfortunately during the height of Covid19 a member of our team suffered badly and our domain name was not renewed in time, and sadly it was lost.  Sad
9  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Tokens (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN][ICO] 🔥ANGEL TOKEN ICO IS OVER 🔥THANK YOU TO OUR 400+ INVESTORS! on: February 23, 2021, 01:28:36 AM
Hello, I'm also an Angel Investor who bought more than 10,000 ANGL tokens during the launch sale.
I was never a part of any chat group, where is the communication currently happening?

There is really no more communication taking place, (other than in relation to the refund) as we are refunding all investors and trying to shut down the Angel Token project, whilst making all investors whole by returning the funds to them.

You should return your ANGL tokens to this address before April 23rd 2021:

0xC7D3291CaaBf7Bf1e00a63e20AB584D2208797B5

You will be issued with a refund in ETH and BAT (Basic Attention Token) that corresponds to your share, depending on the amount of Angel Tokens that you return to this address before April 23rd 2021.

We only really recommend that you retain your ANGL tokens if your refund is so small that the ETH gas fees will not make it worthwhile for you to get a refund, but if you have more than 10,000 ANGL tokens your refund will far exceed the gas fees, and we will do our best to minimize them by doing your refunds at a time when the gas cost is low.
10  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Tokens (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN][ICO] 🔥ANGEL TOKEN ICO IS OVER 🔥THANK YOU TO OUR 400+ INVESTORS! on: February 23, 2021, 01:18:41 AM
Thanks for the update @LLec after 3 years of waiting I also invested 1 eth for 10k ANGL at ICO I hope can take back my investment very soon thats really a long wait btw How can I access again the private group I reformatted my PC few months ago and I cannot login anymore in the secret group, can you please add me again I will also send you a PM for some suggestion to revive this project if ever, thanks.

I am sorry you lost access, but we are not adding any more people to Slack since we are closing down the Slack channel after the refund period is over.

There will be a new discussion forum announced after the refund period is over, open to those who don't have enough ANGL tokens to make the refund worthwhile, or who wish to retain their ANGL tokens for some other reason.

You can return your 10k ANGL tokens at any point up until April 23rd, 2021 to the following address:

0xC7D3291CaaBf7Bf1e00a63e20AB584D2208797B5

Once you have done so you will be refunded with the following for your 10,000 ANGL tokens:

0.1969 ETH (Ethereum)
+
370 BAT (Basic Attention Token)

However, the gas costs will be deducted from the above two transactions, so you will receive slightly less ETH than this amount.
11  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Tokens (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN][ICO] 🔥ANGEL TOKEN ICO IS OVER 🔥THANK YOU TO OUR 400+ INVESTORS! on: February 23, 2021, 01:12:02 AM
my bigest respect for this , i honestly didnt thought you guys are still in Angle token. i participated in 2017 and (i think) i payed 1eth for 10k angle token( i was very early investor). all the time i considered this as an bad invest and accepted the loss of the invest.
karma is one of things i also beleave in , so for me you guys are solid and gonna YOLO with you  Roll Eyes

i read what you wrote above , but one thing i didnt get , do i need to singup somewhere to participate on YOLO ?  do you guys have also (new) url for your project?

Thank you for your kind words, and yes karma is indeed a very real thing in life. Smiley

If you want to retain your Angel Tokens rather than opting for a refund you are free to do so, and there is nothing you need to do to stay in the new "Angel Token Yolo Investment Club", simply keep your ANGL tokens safe.

The main reason we have decided to continue operating in this "Yolo format" after the refund is that:

1. People who only have a small amount of ANGL tokens won't be able to benefit from this refund process, since the ETH gas fees will eat in to their refund amount to such a large extent that it won't be worth it for them to return their ANGL tokens. We want to try to do good for all the people who believes in us, and make sure that everyone can benefit from their Angel Token ICO investment. We may not succeed, but at least we will know that we have tried.

2. There are a number of people like you, who still believe in our vision to work as a community to try and find undervalued tokens and coins and invest in them and support them as a small "investment club". Although the format will be different in the new "Yolo Club" in that all club members won't be voting on every investment etc. we will still keep to our core principles, even though we will seek out investments that are very high risk.

We do not yet have a new website for the "Angel Token Yolo Club", and I'm not sure that there will be one either. Instead we will likely just have a community or forum where members can discuss the investments and share ideas. We will update on this once the refund period is over.

Thanks again, and all the best to you. Smiley
12  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Tokens (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN][ICO] 🔥ANGEL TOKEN ICO IS OVER 🔥THANK YOU TO OUR 400+ INVESTORS! on: February 23, 2021, 12:50:13 AM
ANGEL TOKEN REFUND IS STARTING TODAY - FEBRUARY 22nd 2021

Dear Angel Token Holders,

THE REFUND PROCESS AND LIQUIDATION OF THE ANGEL TOKEN FUND AND INVESTMENT COMMUNITY WILL BEGIN TODAY, FEBRUARY 22ND 2021.

The token return process will continue for 60 days with a potential extension of 30 days, up to a maximum of 90 days, or no later than May 30th 2021.


ALL INVESTORS WHO WOULD LIKE A REFUND OF THEIR ANGEL TOKENS SHOULD SEND THEIR ANGL TOKENS TO THE FOLLOWING ADDRESS IN THE NEXT 60 DAYS, BEFORE APRIL 23RD 2021:

0xC7D3291CaaBf7Bf1e00a63e20AB584D2208797B5

ALL REFUNDS WILL BE ISSUED TO THE SAME ETHERUM ADDRESS THAT YOU RETURN YOUR ANGL TOKENS FROM. THERE WILL BE NO EXCEPTIONS TO THIS RULE.

You are NOT required to return your ANGL Tokens from the same address that you used for the ICO.


We have received a lot of questions and concerns in regards to this issue.

WE HAVE THEREFORE DECIDED TO TREAT ALL ANGEL TOKENS EQUALLY, NO MATTER WHERE YOU ACQUIRED THEM. EVEN IF YOU BOUGHT YOUR ANGL ON AN EXCHANGE, OR IF YOU HAVE MOVED THEM TO OTHER ADDRESSES AFTER THE INITIAL ICO YOU WILL STILL BE ELIGBLE FOR A REFUND. AS LONG AS YOU HOLD ANGL YOU CAN CLAIM A REFUND.

IMPORTANT - WE WILL NOT REFUND AMOUNTS THAT ARE SMALLER THAN THE ETH TRANSACTION FEE, SO WE WOULD STRONGLY SUGGEST THAT YOU DO NOT RETURN YOUR ANGL TOKENS IF YOU HAVE LESS THAN 1000 ANGL AND YOU MAY STILL LOSE MONEY/ETH IF YOU MAKE A REFUND WITH LESS THAN 3000-5000 ANGL SINCE YOU FIRST HAVE TO PAY THE GAS TO RETURN YOUR ANGL, AND THEN THE GAS COST WILL BE DEDUCTED FROM YOUR REFUND WHEN WE SEND ETH AND BAT BACK TO YOU IN TWO SEPARATE TRANSACTIONS.

We will attempt to make refunds during times when the ETH gas price is low, and we suggest that you return your ANGL to the refund address at times when the ETH gas price is low, unless you have a large amount of ANGL tokens to return, in which case the gas price may be less important to you. But if you only hold a very small amount of ANGL (1,000-5,000 ANGL) you may want to consider holding on to them since the gas fee will eat up almost all of your refund.  Sad

You can check current gas prices here: https://etherscan.io/gastracker

Once we have received the ANGL token refunds we will verify each transaction. Within 30 days of this verification process, but no later than June 30th 2021 all refunds will be completed.

If you return ALL your ANGL tokens from one address for a refund, your refund will likely be processed faster than if you only return a partial amount of your tokens form one address.

Therefore, if you would prefer a quicker refund, (rather than wait until June 30th 2021 at the latest), and you want to retain some of your ANGL tokens we suggest that you split your ANGL holdings into 2 different addresses, and make a full refund of your entire ANGL balance from one address.

You MAY get your refund much sooner than June 30th, 2021 (perhaps in as little as a few days or a week) but this is NOT guaranteed. We understand that many investors are keen to get their refund, and we will attempt to initiate the refunds as soon as possible, but please be patient.

SUMMARY:

ALL REFUNDS WILL BE ISSUED TO THE SAME ETHERUM ADDRESS THAT RETURNS THE ANGL TOKENS TO THE REFUND ADDRESS. THERE WILL BE NO EXCEPTIONS TO THIS RULE.

DO NOT MAKE A REFUND FROM AN EXCHANGE AND MAKE SURE THAT YOU HAVE FULL CONTROL OVER THE ADDRESS WHERE YOU RETURN YOUR ANGL FROM. THIS IS WHERE YOU WILL RECEIVE YOUR ETH AND YOUR BAT DURING THE REFUND PERIOD.

YOU SHOULD SEND YOUR ANGL TOKENS THAT YOU WANT TO BE REFUNDED TO THIS ETH ADDRESS NO LATER THAN APRIL 23RD, 2021:

0xC7D3291CaaBf7Bf1e00a63e20AB584D2208797B5


QUESTIONS:

I didn't vote for a refund. Will Angel Token disappear after the refund?

No.

First of all, Angel Token will remain on the Ethereum network for all eternity or as long as the Ethereum network remains operational.

However, Angel Token will disappear in its current form.

The statements and and promises the Angel Token Team made in the whitepaper will no longer be applicable, and ANGL will become a far riskier investment...

IF YOU DECIDE TO NOT REFUND YOUR ANGL TOKENS BEFORE APRIL 23RD YOU SHOULD NOT EXPECT TO GET ANY FURTHER OR FUTURE REFUNDS AND/OR DIVIDENDS, AND YOU SHOULD ALSO NOT EXPECT THAT THE VALUE OF THE ANGL TOKEN WILL INCREASE IN PRICE ON EXCHANGES.

We are NOT saying that ANGL is becoming worthless after we have refunded all ICO investors who would like a refund, only that a token that what was always extremely risky (like all crypto investments are) will become EVEN MORE risky...

IF YOU DECIDE TO NOT DO A REFUND OF YOUR ANGEL TOKENS PLEASE ONLY KEEP FUNDS THAT YOU CAN AFFORD TO LOSE INVESTED IN ANGEL TOKEN. REFUND EVERYTHING THAT YOU ARE NOT WILLING TO LOSE!

How much will the refund be and how much will I get?

As you all know the Angel Token Fund has made several investments over the years. Unfortunately most of these investments were into tokens that are now defunct and no longer have any value, and we also lost funds when the Cryptopia exchange was hacked.

The Angel Token Foundation and investment club holds several coins that we made substantial investments into following votes in the Angel Token Investment Community (ATPIC) over the years:

Unitus
Nullex
Spectre
Envion
etc.

Unfortunately all of these tokens and coins are now worthless and mostly no longer even possible to trade.

What is left is our ETH and our investment in Basic Attention Token (BAT), which will now be refunded to those Angel Token holders who return their ANGL for a refund at the above stated address.

EACH ANGEL TOKEN RETURNED FOR A REFUND TO THE ABOVE ADDRESS WILL RECEIVE THE FOLLOWING ALLOCATION MINUS THE ETH GAS COST:

ETH (Ethereum): 0.00001969
BAT (Basic Attention Token): 0.037

At the time of this writing, (February 22nd, 2021) with a market price of approximately $1700/ETH and $0.50/BAT a refund of 10,000 ANGL will equal approximately $185 in BAT and $335 in ETH, (minus gas costs, which can be a substantial percentage depending on the amount of ANGL you hold).

Despite the losses incurred by Angel Token over the years this means most investors who invested in the Angel Token ICO will still have made a profit in dollar terms from their investment, assuming they purchased their ETH below $500 in 2017.

What happens if I don't refund my ANGL, will they become worthless?

After the liquidation and refund period is over we will continue to try and operate Angel Token for the benefit of the remaining token holders, and do our utmost until we can make good on all the ICO investors who believed in us, despite that we choose to be an anonymous team.

We wish we could close down the Angel Token Project for good with this refund, but there are two reasons why we believe this is not possible:

1. Those investors and Angel Token holders who only hold a small amount of ANGL won't be able to benefit from this refund in a substantive way because of the high ETH gas prices that is currently crippling the Ethereum Network.

This is partly why we are allowing a refund period of 60 days, (which we may extend another 30 days in case the gas prices are not more reasonable for at least SOME of the time during the coming 60 days), so that all Angel Token holders get a chance to return their tokens at a time when the gas fees are more reasonable than they currently are.

We want to try and benefit these Angel Token holders in the best way we can, and help grow their investment. We may not succeed, and you shouldn't count on us succeeding if you decide to stay invested in ANGL.

We will attempt to make highly risky but potentially profitable investments for the benefit of the remaining ANGL token holders, and if we succeed we may at some point in the future initiate a refund and/or some sort of payout to the remaining Angel Token holders at that time.

2. We are concerned that some investors may not be aware of the refund procedure and we want to try to make sure those investors/Angel Token holders still have a chance to get some benefit from their ANGL Token holdings in the future.

We very unfortunately lost control over our ICO website during Covid19, and it seems we are not able to get it back. We've also been informed that the current owners who registered the domain name when it expired are not willing to help us try to inform Angel Token ICO investors of the refund by posting a notice on the website. We are posting information about our refund on Slack, Twitter and here on Bitcointalk, and we hope that all Angel Token holders will have a chance to see the message in the coming 60 days. If you know anyone who has invested in the Angel Token ICO, please send them a link to this message to make them aware.

So we will do our best to try and make sure that those who remain invested in Angel Token for one reason or another still have a chance to benefit from it in the coming years, even if the chances that we will succeed are small.

We are also very much aware that when we undertook the vote on whether to liquidate Angel Token, or not, inside the ATPIC community it was a majority vote. Not everyone in the Angel Token Investment Club voted for us to liquidate, and a number of members wanted us to try and revive Angel Token rather than simply shutting down and refund the ETH raised.

We appreciate that you still believe in those of us who are still left of the Angel Token Team and trying to get the best outcome for our investors. With the rise of decentralized exchanges we think we may have a chance to revive whatever little will be left of Angel Token after the refund period has concluded. We will try and get the best possible outcome for the small ICO investors who don't have enough ANGL to make the refund process worthwhile.

For those of you who want us "to try again" you are free to keep your Angel Tokens instead of returning them for a refund, and we will try to invest them to make more crypto for us all.

So should I keep my Angel Tokens instead of returning them for a refund?

No, you should return your tokens for a refund in ETH and BAT, UNLESS YOU FIT ONE OF THE FOLLOWING CRITERIA:

a) You only own a small amount of ANGL (less than 3,000 to 5,000 ANGL perhaps, depending on the current gas costs?) and the refund therefore is not going to bring you a lot of benefit once you've paid the gas fees for two token transactions and one ETH transaction. Remember that you'll pay gas for ANGL when you return them, and then for BAT when we send them to you, (the gas will be deducted), plus the gas fees for the ETH transaction when we refund the ETH to you.

b) You still believe in us as a team, and you want to remain invested in the new Angel Token "Yolo" Fund, which will make some highly speculative investments that may bring a huge return or go bust.

For those of you who want to you are free to leave your Angel Tokens with us, instead of returning them for a refund. The option is yours.

Be aware that there are no guarantees of any kind if you decide to remain invested in ANGL after the refund period.

We will invest what may remain of the Angel Token Fund in extremely high risk projects that may crash and burn, but that could also give us a 5x or 10x return on our investment within weeks or months. It is likely we may lose our funds and this is what you should expect to happen, which is why suggest that all Angel Token Holders should opt for the refund.

So although you CAN decide to not take part in the refund if you so choose, you will forfeit any rights to a refund from the original Angel Token Investment Fund if you haven't returned your tokens by April 23rd, 2021 (or May 30th 2021 at the very latest if we prolong to the refund period due to continuing high gas fees).

YOU SHOULD THINK OF ANY FUNDS YOU DECIDE TO KEEP IN THE NEW ANGEL TOKEN FUND AS "YOLO FUNDS" (BY NOT RETURNING THEM FOR A REFUND), MEANING THAT YOU SHOULD EXPECT AN ALMOST CERTAIN LOSS OF YOUR FUNDS, BUT WITH A SMALL POTENTIAL OF A BIG RETURN.

HERE ARE SOME OTHER THINGS YOU SHOULD KNOW IF YOU DECIDE TO NOT REFUND YOUR ANGEL TOKENS

a) We likely will not pay dividends in the way that Angel Token had initially envisaged and as outlined in the original whitepaper.

This is partly because it's complex to do this manually in a way that is safe and accurate, and partly because it may take us from simply being "a small crypto investment club" to something that perhaps really should be regulated, despite the fact that we don't have any US or UK investors. Instead we will consider other ways to try and compensate Angel Token holders, and make sure that they/we get a good return if we were to succeed in the future.

One option we will consider is to do a 2nd liquidation at some point in the future, perhaps if/when have reached a certain milestone, such as 50x or 100x return on our funds.

b) If we decide to continue and succeed in our future trades we hope that ANGL will start trading on decentralized exchanges, and that eventually the price will rise to reflect the value of the Angel Token Portfolio, but there is no guarantee that this will happen.

SO YOU BASICALLY HAVE THREE OPTIONS NOW - AND YOU WILL NEED TO DECIDE WHAT YOU WANT TO DO BEFORE MAY 30TH 2021:

1. Go ahead and return your ANGL tokens for a full refund that is proportional to your share of the Angel Token Portfolio after the trading losses, management fees and the 10% liquidation fee that was announced at the time of the vote. THIS IS THE RECOMMENDED OPTION.

2. Simply keep your ANGL tokens in your wallet and not return them before the April 23rd, 2021 deadline (although we may extend this deadline with 30 days depending on the ETH gas fees during the coming 60 days).

NOT refunding your tokens means that you will automatically remain as an investment club member and investor in the NEW Angel Token "YOLO" Investment Club, but you will have none of the rights and privileges that were described in the original whitepaper and that we have stuck to as promised since day 1 to the best of our ability.

3. You can return a partial amount of your ANGL tokens and receive your proportional amount of ETH and BAT from the Angel Token Fund, and keep some of your Angel Tokens in the new Angel Token "YOLO" Investment Club.

If you choose this option and want a speedier refund than June 30th, 2021 please first split your ANGL holdings into two addresses, and return all your ANGL from one address in full.

We would like to take this opportunity to thank all of our ICO investors and everyone who believed in us over the years, including those of you who bought Angel Tokens at an exchange. We are aware that we haven't lived up to your expectations and hopes, and we want to apologize for this.

Despite being an anonymous team it has always been our intention to be fair and honest in all our dealings with you and for all of you who are returning your Angel Tokens for a refund we wish you the best of luck and
great success in your future crypto investments.


If you have any specific questions in regards to the refund process or anything else, please post them here.
13  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Tokens (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN][ICO] 🔥ANGEL TOKEN ICO IS OVER 🔥THANK YOU TO OUR 400+ INVESTORS! on: January 25, 2021, 04:28:54 AM
IMPORTANT ANGEL TOKEN UPDATE - JANUARY 23rd 2021

Dear Angel Token Holders,

First of all, apologies for not posting earlier about the refund, but Covid and other outside forces has caused this delay.

We know many of you have waited for news on the liquidation and refund on the Angel Token Investment Portfolio, and we finally have some news.

We have finally calculated and documented all relevant addresses and the amounts that will be refunded, and we have designed a process for how this will happen.

THE REFUND PROCESS AND LIQUIDATION OF THE ANGEL TOKEN FUND AND INVESTMENT COMMUNITY WILL BEGIN ON FEBRUARY 22ND 2021.

On, (or slightly before) Feb 22nd 2021 a token address will be announced here and on other ANGL forums which is the address where everyone who want a refund should send their ANGL tokens.

This token return process will continue for 60 days with a potential extension of 30 days, up to a maximum of 90 days, or no later than May 30th 2021.

Once all ANGL tokens have been returned by Angel Token ICO investors and ANGL token holders we will verify all transactions. Within 30 days of this verification process, but no later than June 30th 2021 all refunds will be completed.

Refunds MAY start already during the 60-90 day token return process, but this is NOT guaranteed.


ALL REFUNDS WILL BE ISSUED TO THE SAME ETHERUM ADDRESS THAT RETURNS THE ANGL TOKENS. THERE WILL BE NO EXCEPTIONS TO THIS RULE.

Once the Angel Token return address has been publicized here and on our other information channels we urge everyone who wants a refund to send back their tokens as soon as possible. This will allow more time for us to verify each transaction and make sure that the correct refund is issued.

QUESTIONS:


I didn't vote for a refund. Will Angel Token disappear after the refund?

In short, No.

First of all, a token like Angel Token never disappears from the Etherum network, Angel Token will remain operation there for all eternity or as long as Ethereum remains operational.

However, I also want to give a very long explanation to this answer by going through a few things about the Angel Token Team, our history and why we have made the decisions we have done. This will be quite long, so you may want to grab a cup of tea before you start reading.

1. As all of you know, not long after our ICO back in 2017 we entered a prolonged "crypto winter", which lasted for a long time and made investments difficult.

We also made several bad crypto investments which lost us a substantial amount of the ETH we raised in the ICO.

Some of these investments were suggested by the Angel Token Team, and some where suggested by ATPIC members.

The result of most of these investments was a 100% loss of our ETH invested in these projects.

As you are all aware, we also lost various crypto assets on the Cryptopia exchange.

It was a difficult time for the team, and of course also for all of our members in the ATPIC community.

2. We always wanted Angel Token to be run as "an investment club" where everyone with a minimum holding of 10,000 ANGL could suggest crypto investments, and we could all vote on these investments together as a community/club.

This worked reasonably well in the beginning, but it was not a sustainable long-term model since every vote had to be counted and checked by hand against that members holdings etc.

If we had raised more ETH the management fee would have been higher, and we would perhaps have been able to continue operating in the way we did.

Unfortunately, our team fell apart as we entered the crypto winter and funds were running low.

One of our key advisors also became ill and was no longer able to contribute to the project in the same way, and it was a very difficult time for us all.

For those of you who remember what the crypto landscape looked like back in 2017, when we launched our ICO, it was relatively easy to create value in one of the smaller altcoins simply by building a new website and create more awareness of a project through marketing etc.

During the crypto winter this changed dramatically, and only the strongest projects survived.

Doing marketing or building new websites or doing some of the other things our team had expertise in no longer had any major impact on the value of an altcoin project.

3. On top of this there seemed to be imminent crypto regulation on the horizon, which we, being an anonymous team was not keen on partaking in.

Not because we wanted to do anything "fishy" or illegal, (we have always been 100% up front and honest with everyone who trusted us and believed in our vision), but simply because for a smaller project such as ours, which is really just small group of investors coming together as a club, becoming regulated would have put an unreasonable burden on us.

Since we blocked all US investors from our ICO using both with IP blocking technology and legal disclaimers which made it illegal for US citizens and/or residents to invest in Angel Token, we hoped that we would be able to operate legally and without the risk of penalties or being shut down.

WHAT IS THE POINT OF THIS REMINDER OF THE ANGEL TOKEN HISTORY?

Myself and one other key advisor in the project are considering taking an alternative route with the project after the liquidation and refund period.

Let me explain:

When we undertook the vote on whether to liquidate Angel Token or not here inside the ATPIC community it was a majority vote, but not everyone voted for us to liquidate.

We had a number of members who wanted us to try and revive Angel Token rather than simply shutting down and refund the ETH raised.

We were skeptical at the time because decentralized exchanges were not yet available, or at least not with sufficient volume to be a realistic option for us to trade on.

With the new KYC requirements coming in at virtually all centralized exchanges this felt like a big hurdle to us, especially since many of them banned anonymous ICOs from trading on them, even if you completed their KYC.

However, things have changed recently and there are now decentralized exchanges that allow anyone to trade ETH based tokens and with sufficient volume.

These two factors combined:

1. The fact that not all ATPIC community members wanted us to liquidate ANGL and return the funds.

And

2. The fact that there are now alternative options where we can safely and legally trade without jeopardizing the project or end up with funds frozen etc.

This has led me and one of our advisors from the Angel Token Team to potentially try to revive the coin in the future.

BUT HOW ARE YOU GOING TO OPERATE IN THE FUTURE IF YOU REFUND THE INVESTORS?

The liquidation and return of the funds invested will still go ahead as planned and as promised earlier and as per the explanation above.

However, as one of the main founders of Angel Token I still hold a substantial amount of crypto investments, and I may decide to use some of these funds to revive Angel Token in the future, together with a key advisor.

SO SHOULD I KEEP MY ANGEL TOKENS INSTEAD OF RETURNING THEM FOR A REFUND?

We believe most ICO investors and Angel Token holders are rather fed up with the project and disappointed with us as a team. This is completely understandable and was highlighted in the vote for liquidation, and the complaints of lack of progress of ANGL for a long time.

The ATPIC community also didn't work out as we had all hoped and planned, and most investors just want to get as much of their funds back as possible.

However, all disappointed investors can rest assured that everyone who wants a refund will get 100% refund of your allocation of what is left of the Angel Token Investment Fund back.

BUT

For those of you who want us "to try" again you are free to leave your Angel Tokens with us, instead of returning them for a refund.

If you do, this is what MAY happen in the future:

1. Only myself and one advisor will be part of Angel Token going forward after the refund, and we may or may not decide to try and revive it.

2. We will not co-operate and work with other crypto projects to improve their projects as per the original whitepaper. We may assist with some marketing, but only because we believe in a particular project we invest in. We will not be building websites etc for projects, as we did originally and as was described in the whitepaper

3. The new Angel Token Team may (if we decide to continue operating in any way), passively invest in projects that we believe has a high chance of a MASSIVE RETURN ON INVESTMENT.

We won't be investing in safe and stable projects like Basic Attention Token (BAT) which have high chance of succeeding over a long period time, unless they also have the potential to explode in value over a short time.

Instead we will mainly invest in extremely high risk projects that may crash and burn, but that could also give us a 5x or 10x return on our investment within weeks or months.

So although you CAN decide to not take part in the refund if you so choose, you will forfeit any rights to a refund from the original Angel Token Investment Fund if you haven't returned your tokens by May 30th 2021.

YOU SHOULD THINK OF ANY FUNDS YOU DECIDE TO KEEP IN THE NEW ANGEL TOKEN FUND AS "YOLO FUNDS" (BY NOT RETURNING THEM FOR A REFUND) AS AN ALMOST CERTAIN LOSS OF 100%.

We know that this sounds "harsh" and that it's not a particularly good incentive to keep your Angel Tokens, rather than returning them for a refund.

That's ok.

The type of trades we will be looking for if we decide to continue operating are such high risk that your funds have a high chance of being lost in every trade we make.

HERE ARE SOME OTHER THINGS YOU SHOULD KNOW IF YOU DECIDE TO NOT REFUND YOUR ANGEL TOKENS

4. We likely will not pay dividends in the way that Angel Token had initially envisaged and as outlined in the original whitepaper.

This is partly because it is very complex to do this manually in a way that is safe and accurate, and partly because it may take us from simply being "a small crypto investment club" to something that really should be regulated, despite the fact that we don't have any US investors.

Instead we will consider other ways to try and compensate Angel Token holders, and make sure that they/we get a good return if we were to succeed in the future.

One option we will consider is to do a 2nd liquidation at some point in the future, perhaps if/when have reached a certain milestone, such as 50x or 100x return on our funds.

5. If we decide to continue and succeed in our future trades we hope that ANGL will start trading on the new decentralized exchanges, and that eventually the price will rise to reflect the value of the Angel Token Portfolio.

We may also try to create a tradable asset that reflects the Angel Token Portfolio value, but only if we manage to raise the value substantially so this makes sense for the remaining investors.

SO YOU BASICALLY HAVE THREE OPTIONS NOW - AND YOU WILL NEED TO DECIDE WHAT YOU WANT TO DO BEFORE MAY 30TH 2021:

1. Go ahead and return your ANGL tokens for a full refund that is proportional to your share of the Angel Token Portfolio after the trading losses, management fees and the 10% liquidation fee that was announced at the time of the vote. THIS IS THE RECOMMENDED OPTION.

2. Simply keep your ANGL tokens in your wallet and not return them before the May 30th 2021 deadline.

NOT refunding your tokens means that you will automatically remain as a club member and investor in the NEW Angel Token "YOLO" Investment Club, but you will have none of the rights and privileges that were described in the original whitepaper and that we have stuck to as promised since day 1 to the best of our ability.

3. You can return a partial amount of your ANGL tokens and receive your proportional amount of ETH and BAT from the Angel Token Fund, and keep some of your Angel Tokens in the new Angel Token "YOLO" Investment Club.

RISK WARNINGS:

Considering the type of investments that we plan on making it's very likely that you will lose all funds that you keep invested in the New Angel Token "YOLO" Investment Club, by not requesting a refund.

We are serious about this.

IF YOU DECIDE TO KEEP YOUR ANGEL TOKENS AND NOT REQUESR A REFUND YOU SHOULD CONSIDER ANY FUNDS AS "LOST".

SO WHY WOULD I NOT RETURN MY ANGEL TOKENS FOR A REFUND THEN?

You SHOULD return them for a refund!


We mean it.

If you don't return your ANGL tokens for a refund by the May 30th deadline you will most likely lose ALL the funds you originally invested in the Angel Token Project.

OK, HAVING SAID THAT LET'S TRY AND EXPLAIN WHAT WE HAVE PLANNED IF WE DECIDE TO REVIVE ANGEL TOKEN IN THIS NEW ANGEL TOKEN "YOLO" CLUB AND WHY YOU MAY WANT TO EVEN CONSIDER IT?

1. We have always felt an enormous responsibility towards the people who invested in our ICO, and despite being anonymous we have never ever wanted to, or intended to, break that trust.

As most of you are probably aware most projects with anonymous team members were frauds set-up to scam their investors.

This option was obviously available to us as well, and during some of our setbacks a few investors have insinuated that this was our plan as well, to defraud our investors, or simply walk away with the funds that are left.

However, as will become clear to everyone who believed in us and our vision by June 30th, it has never been our intention to operate in any other way than as a highly ethical team.

We have always been honest and operated Angel Token and every other business we have been involved in with the highest integrity. Our reasons for being anonymous was never to misappropriate investor funds without getting caught.

We believe that karma is an important part of life, and karma is always in effect, whether someone is looking or not. We simply believe that identity is overrated and can cause big problems in and from some tyrannical jurisdictions.


However, after the losses we faced during the "crypto winter" it almost made us "freeze up" to try and preserve what we could from the Angel Token Investment Fund, until we had a plan and decided what to do.

The plan that ATPIC members voted for was liquidation, and this will now go ahead as planned.

However, for everyone who would rather have their share of the Angel Token funds back, we want to offer an alternative.

This alternative means we will be "unrestrained" by our whitepaper and the promises we made to the ATPIC community. This will free us up from our obligations in terms of any potential future investment decisions that we may or may not make.

Once again.

Anyone deciding to NOT opt for the full refund should do so with the understanding that there is an extremely high risk that we will lose ALL of the funds, and this is assuming we even decide to revive Angel Token and continue operating in this new "YOLO" Investment Club that we have described.

This very clear understanding between us and the few remaining investors who may decide to keep some funds left with us gives us the freedom to operate in a different manner to what we planned and promised the original Angel Token ICO investors.

This means we can take serious risks with these funds, which MAY also bring serious returns...

2. The advisor who will be working with me going forward, if we decide to continue, has spotted several investment opportunities very early. Opportunities that have given enormous returns in a very short period of time.

One of these opportunities that was a token spotted at $0.01 and since that investment was spotted only a few weeks ago it has returned around 16x the investment.

Another similar investment was spotted early that netted a 7x return on investment in only a couple weeks.

The advisor is also an active member in the r/wallstreetbets Reddit community and has spotted several highly profitable investment opportunities on the stock market early on. Investments that have returned significant amounts of money.

Do we believe that we have some special insider knowledge that will give us a massive return for the new Angel Token "YOLO" Investment Club?

No, not really.

More likely we have just been very lucky with these private investments that we have made. Simply having been at the right place at the right time. But we're not sure.

Maybe this type of research and investment approach will work again? If it does, the returns could be enormous for those that are willing to take the risk.

THIS is the reason we are leaving the door open to potentially revive Angel Token in this new "YOLO" format, which may or may not happen.

However, as repeated in this message, expect and anticipate to lose any and all funds you keep inside Angel Token without requesting a refund.

You should return all ANGL tokens that you are not ready to lose for a refund. It is a MUCH safer option.

You don't need to let us know what you have decided, but feel free to post your thoughts and comments here or in the ATPIC community. We will read them even if we do not often answer.

To be clear. We are not trying to convince ANYONE to stay or keep an investment in the new Angel Token "YOLO" Investment Club, and it may not even happen, in which case your invested funds will be entirely lost.

We will likely also be shutting down the Slack communities after the refund period has closed. In that case we will open something new instead, only for the remaining members who decide to not refund and keep their funds invested in the New Angel Token "YOLO" Investment Club.

Just like with the ATPIC community there will be a minimum limit of 10,000 ANGL tokens to have access to the new Angel Token YOLO Investment Forum where we will communicate in the future.

So if you want to be part of this you will need to keep a minimum of 10,000 ANGL tokens.

As stated above, we will update on the ANGL Token return address on or before February 22nd 2021. This is the address where you should send your ANGL tokens if you want a refund of what is left of your investment from the Angel Token ICO.
14  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Tokens (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN][ICO] 🔥ANGEL TOKEN ICO IS OVER 🔥THANK YOU TO OUR 400+ INVESTORS! on: August 24, 2020, 12:36:41 PM
OFFICIAL UPDATE

Dear Angel Token Holders,

It was a long time since we posted an official update here on Bitcointalk, and most of our communications have been taking place inside the ATPIC community. However, this is an important update that affects everyone who purchased Angel Tokens during our initial token sale.

In the past months the entire world has changed due to the Covid19 pandemic.

The pandemic has hit the team behind Angel Token extremely hard. For several reasons we can't go into details of what has happened to our team in the last few months, both personally and professionally, but the pandemic has been absolutely devastating to us.

We want to re-assure all of you that our intentions have always been to treat everyone who trusted us fairly and honestly, and we remain committed to doing so.

In 2019 a vote was cast by the ATPIC community requesting that we liquidate the funds that are still left, (most funds were lost in the crypto downturn due to bad investments) and return them to Angel Token holders and investors. As outlined in our update in January we had planned to initiate this process in mid-March 2020. However, the Coronavirus pandemic put an abrupt stop to that for reasons we can't go into details about. Our ability to initiate the liquidation process was stopped in its tracks.

We also lost a huge amount of important data and information relating to the Angel project, as well as our main technical person who was responsible for handling the technical parts of this process in a safe way. We are now in a difficult position where we have very limited resources to initiate the liquidation and refund process. We may need to hire someone from the outside to assist with this process, but trust is a major issue here of course as everyone understands.

We have a request for the Angel community that would help us get started on re-building our data and help us get re-started with the liquidation process. We would like to ask everyone who purchased Angel Tokens during our initial token sale in 2017 to do the following.

Send a private message to here on Bitcointalk with the following information:

1. The total number of of Angel Tokens that you personally hold and control.

2. The date these were acquired and if they were originally bought on the initial token sale or acquired at some later point on an exchange or elsewhere. (PLEASE NOTE THAT AT THIS POINT WE CANNOT GUARANTEE THAT ANYONE WHO ACQUIRED THEIR ANGEL TOKENS OUTSIDE OF OUR INITIAL TOKEN SALE, (ON AN EXCHANGE FOR EXAMPLE.)

3. The number of Angel Tokens you currently hold on the ORIGINAL ADDRESS where they were allocated to you during the initial Angel Token sale.

4. The number of Angel Tokens you hold that have been moved to another address after the initial Angel Token sale, whether because you have personally moved them or because you acquired them from an exchange or somewhere else at a later date.

5. Each of the above messages should be accompanied by the addresses that you are referring to.

Please send this information as a private messages to me and use the numbering system I outlined above.

Please try to keep each message as short as possible, so for example:

"1. I hold a total of xx,xxx Angel Tokens that I hope to get refunded during the liquidation process."

"2. xx,xxxx of these tokens were purchased during the initial Angel Token sale."

"3. xx,xxx of these tokens are held on this original address: XXXXXXXX they were sent to me during the initial Angel Token sale, and have never been moved."

"4. I also hold x,xxxx Angel Tokens that I bought on an exchange a few months later. They are held on this address:XXXXXXX"

WE ASK THAT EVERYONE TRY TO SEND US THIS INFORMATION AS SOON AS POSSIBLE.

The above information will help us establish approximately how many Token holders we are dealing with during the liquidation process, and how many different addresses etc. The entire liquidation process will now have to be done manually, and because of some events that has happened during this pandemic it will be harder and more difficult than we anticipated.

However, we will get through this and do our utmost to keep our commitments to the Angel Token Investment Club and to the entire Angel Token Community following the vote to liquidate, but it will take longer than we had planned. We appreciate your patience and understanding in these difficult times.

On a personal note we want to ask you all to take this disease very seriously, and to try and stay safe from infection. The SARS-Cov2 virus obviously affects people differently, but we have seen first hand the consequences of this disease and it is very bad, even for some younger people.

PLEASE NOTE THAT WE WILL NOT BE ANSWERING QUESTIONS IN THIS THREAD OR PROVIDE FURTHER UPDATES AT THE MOMENT. IF YOU PURCHASED ANGEL TOKENS DURING OUR TOKEN SALE IN 2017 WE WILL DO OUR BEST TO MAKE SURE THAT YOU RECEIVE AT A LEAST PART OF YOUR FUNDS BACK, BUT WE ASK FOR YOUR PATIENCE AND UNDERSTANDING THAT THIS WILL TAKE SOME TIME. OUR AMBITION IS THAT THE LIQUIDATION PROCESS BE COMPLETED BEFORE THE END OF 2020.
15  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Tokens (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN][ICO] 🔥ANGEL TOKEN ICO IS OVER 🔥THANK YOU TO OUR 400+ INVESTORS! on: April 24, 2018, 03:31:44 PM
ANGEL TOKEN DIVIDEND DECLARATION NOTICE

Dear Angel Token Holders,

The Angel Token Team is committed to keeping to our general principals as laid out in our ICO Whitepaper, but during the first two quarters the growth of the Angel Token portfolio have been slower than we hoped and expected.

Partly this is due to the downturn in the market we have seen lately, (which finally appears to be reversing), and partly it is down to slower than expected implementations of improvements to our first small-cap crypto investment in Unitus.

We have worked hard with the Unitus team over the last months, and we hope that the work we have done will help grow Unitus in the near future.

As outlined in our white paper we are committed to making regular payments of excess profits to the holders of Angel Token.

However, due to market up and downs the value of the Angel Token portfolio has decreased slightly in ETH terms, (by about 9 ETH), since the last Dividend Declaration Notice on January 23rd.

Therefore there will not be any dividend paid to Angel Token holders on April 30th 2018.

INVESTMENT STRATEGY

Due to the lack of growth of the Angel Token portfolio in the last two quarters we have had internal discussions about the best way forward for Angel Token.

Due to the challenges we have faced in the last months we are re-considering our main strategy, to mainly invest in small-cap coins and assisting them in growing their userbase and improving their coins.

We have discussed instead favouring investing in medium to large-cap coins that we believe have potential to grow faster than ETH.

The new strategy would not exlude investments in small-cap coins, but would shift the overall focus from small-cap more towards medium and large-cap coins.

We will shortly open up this topic for discussion within the Angel Token Private Investors Community, and will consider organizing a vote on this, if the community as a whole seems positive to this potential shift in investment strategy.

The Angel Token Team
16  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Tokens (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN][ICO] 🔥ANGEL TOKEN ICO IS OVER 🔥THANK YOU TO OUR 400+ INVESTORS! on: March 23, 2018, 04:45:56 PM
Good news!

We have now nearly completed the acquisition of SXDT to the value of 35 ETH from the Angel Token fund, according to the community vote inside the Angel Token Private Investors Community (ATPIC) that was agreed recently.


We have acquired 67,800 SXDT over the last week at an average cost of $0.253 per token including trading fees. The total spend so far is 34.4 ETH.

We may acquire some further small amounts if we feel that the price is favourable to do so, but this basically completes our purchase of SXDT at this time.

We will update the community on other acquisitions in due course as they are completed.
17  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Tokens (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN][ICO] 🔥ANGEL TOKEN ICO IS OVER 🔥THANK YOU TO OUR 400+ INVESTORS! on: February 08, 2018, 01:11:00 AM
This is our official press release going out major news organisations over the next 48-72 hours:

FOR IMMEDIATE RELEASE

ANGEL TOKEN ANNOUNCING FIRST CRYPTO INVESTMENT & COLLABORATION WITH UNITUS (UIS)
 
The Angel Token Crypto Foundation has just announced their first investment since their successful ICO that concluded on December 19th, 2017 when they raised more than 860 ETH from 400+ investors.

Angel Token has acquired a stake of 925,000 Unitus (UIS) at a substantial discount to the current trading price in an off-exchange deal with the Unitus Team.

In late January 2018 the Angel Token Private Investors Community (ATPIC), consisting of major Angel Token ICO investors, voted to invest a substantial amount of the ICO funds in Unitus, and to initiate a close collaboration with the Unitus Team after the two founder teams reached a mutually beneficial agreement.

The Angel Token Team and the ATPIC Community will be working directly with the founders, developers and community of Unitus over the coming months to assist with the re-launch, improvements and marketing for the long-established but still relatively unknown multi-algorithm cryptocurrency.

By working with the Unitus team towards improving the brand and visibility in the crypto space, Angel Token aims to drive this highly undervalued coin into its rightful rank in terms of marketcap.

Alex, the founder of Angel Token stated:

We have privately researched undervalued coins to invest in and we selected Unitus as our first investment from 1500 cryptocurrencies.

Among the many low cap cryptocurrencies we have researched Unitus stands out to us as unbelievably undervalued and with huge potential.
The coin has some unique features that we think are very smart, and with a good team and growing community behind it we think that it is in totally the wrong place in terms of marketcap.

Our entire team and community believes Unitus is possibly the most undervalued cryptocurrency project out there.


ABOUT ANGEL TOKEN:

“Angel Token is a crypto incubator and investment fund for small-cap altcoins. The Angel Token Team and ATPIC community create wealth, rather than passively wait for crypto investments to rise. Together, the Angel Token Team and the ATPIC community invest in overlooked and undervalued low to medium cap cryptocurrencies, and the skilled Angel Token team of developers, designers and marketers then work with the community to improve the functionality, visibility and marketing of those coins they have invested in.“ Angel Token is traded on the IDEX exchange (ANGL): https://idex.market/eth/angl
 
ABOUT UNITUS:

“Unitus is a unique cryptocurrency that was launched in December 2014. Unitus uses 5 independent algorithms to ensure the blockchain remains extremely secure. Along with the multi-algorithmic aspect of the coin, Unitus is also using merge mining thus allowing a miner to mine a parent coin, whilst at the same time contribute network hashrate to Unitus - and earn both the parent coin's mining rewards and Unitus at the same time, with no additional effort, cost or overhead on the miner's behalf. Unitus was the first crypto-currency to combine Multi-Algo with Merge Mining to bring a more secure and resilient blockchain to the market.“ Unitus is traded on the Cryptopia exchange (UIS): https://www.cryptopia.co.nz/Exchange/?market=UIS_BTC
18  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Tokens (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN][ICO] 🔥ANGEL TOKEN ICO IS OVER 🔥THANK YOU TO OUR 400+ INVESTORS! on: February 08, 2018, 12:45:18 AM
ANGEL TOKEN ANNOUNCING FIRST CRYPTO INVESTMENT & COLLABORATION WITH UNITUS (UIS)




Among the many low quality coins on Cryptopia there is one that stands out to us as unbelievably undervalued and with huge potential. The coin has some unique features that we think are very smart, and with a good team and growing community behind it we think that it is in TOTALLY the wrong place on coinmarketcap.

UNITUS (UIS)

Unitus is a merge-mined multi-algorithmic coin secured by the following algos:

- Lyra2RE2 (GPU mining)
- Argon2d (CPU mining)
- Skein (GPU mining - soon to be ASIC)
- Yescrypt (CPU mining)
- X11 (ASIC)

SO WHAT DOES MULTI-ALGO MEAN IN PRACTISE?

Well it means that as a miner you can choose which algo you want to mine, but not only that. What really makes Unitus unique is that it's a coin that is both multi-algorithmic *AND* merge mineable.

As far as we know this is totally unique, and even if there MAY be one or a couple of other coins that have these features it is very rare and cutting edge technology.


SO WHAT DOES MERGE MINING MEAN?

Merge mining is an awesome feature that allows miners to mine any other coin they want, AND THEN MINE UNITUS ON TOP OF THAT COIN, WITHOUT SPENDING ANY MORE RESOURCES!

So basically it is like a "_100% FREE BONUS_" for miners to add Unitus to their mining operation. It costs them NOTHING EXTRA in terms of electricity or mining power, and they still get the Unitus coins that they mine FOR FREE!


SO WHAT ARE THE BENEFITS OF A MULTI-ALGORITHMIC COIN?

Being multi-algorithmic makes Unitus SUPER SECURE compared to other coins. Instead of having one algorithm securing the coin, (like Bitcoin for example), you now have 5 different algos that are all working together to secure the coin!


WHY DOES ALL THIS MATTER?

The problem that many small independent coins have is that because they are small there are only a few miners who mine those coins. Often it's only the founders and a few enthusiastic community members who mine the coin, because it has such a low value and uncertain future (if any).

This makes the smaller coins very insecure and even if they do well marketing wise they remain open to attack.

This is a catch22 dilemma that all new coins suffer from, that until they become valuable and popular they are highly vulnerable to attack. Even Bitcoin could easily have been destroyed in its early days when there was only Satoshi and a few enthusiasts mining it.

With the combination of a multi-algo and merge mining Unitus is overcoming one of the largest issues small coins face, *security.*

So if you are already mining one of those 5 algos mentioned above, you can use your precious hashes to get some extra Unitus coins above what you get anyway from your normal mining operations.

COIN SUPPLY

There are just under 56 million coins in circulation right now, *BUT* be aware that Coinmarketcap is showing an incorrect coin supply of around 47 million. The Unitus team have contacted them about this several times but they are yet to correct it. To see the current supply go here: https://unitus.online/network

Another interesting feature of Unitus is that there is no technical upper limit for the coin supply.

Rather Unitus is very much like a valuable natural resource such as Gold or Platinum.


Right now there is still "plenty" available for miners (relatively), but it becomes harder and harder to find the coins. However, the resource will never be 100% depleted. There will always be some coins available for mining.

For reference though, most coins available will have been mined by June 2022 and at that point there will be a total of 100 million coins in circulation, but taking away the 17 million that were burnt there will actually only be around 83 million.


EXCHANGES

Unitus is mainly traded on Cryptopia at the moment.

It is also listed on Yobit.net but do *NOT* buy Unitus there. Yobit has refused to update the wallet after a hard-fork a long time ago, and because of that the coins on the Yobit exchange are on the wrong chain!

The Unitus team have contacted Yobit many times to no avail, but we have discussed other potential options with them that would rectify this situation, but more on that later if Angel Token goes ahead with this investment.

SPEED

Unitus can handle 10x the transactions of Bitcoin in 60 second blocks.

This coin is infinitely scalable!


WAS THERE ANY PRE-MINE OR IS IT "FAIR" LIKE BITCOIN?

Most coins or tokens that are launched nowadays either do an ICO or Pre-mine a large chunk of coins for the developers to "take a share for free". A lot of the time this is done in suspect or shady ways by the developer pre-mining some coins for himself before setting the coins free on the open market, or by skewing the distribution in such a way that he can catch a lot of coins early on while the coin is still unknown.

We are pleased to say that Unitus had a completely fair launch, just like Bitcoin.


WHAT ABOUT THE DEVELOPERS AND COMMUNITY?


We have been watching the Unitus developers and community for some time now, from a distance and without interacting with them, (as we do with many coins), and we have been impressed.

They are pro-active and knowledgeble, and they respond quickly and friendly to questions from the community.

After having reached out to them and throughout these negotiations over the last few weeks they have been nothing but professional, friendly and great to deal with. Sure, the negotiations have been tough, but we are impressed with them, and we think they can lead Unitus (together with our help) to become the next big coin.


A PERFECT FIT?

The one thing that has held Unitus back since its launch in July 2015 is the lack of marketing. Basically the guys from Unitus are "techies" and developers. They know how to program and build a great coin, but they lack in marketing expertise.

If the Angel Token community come together and work as a team to market Unitus as "the next Vertcoin" we believe we that there is no limit to how far we can go...

We have created a comprehensive 6-month marketing plan that we have presented to Unitus, and if we work together on that plan this will become a VERY profitable investment for Angel Token and you the investors.

MARKET CAP

He he, this is where it gets really interesting and fun for us who are "_in the know_"... :slightly_smiling_face:

Unitus current market cap is only around $2.3 million in and the coin is trading at around 650 Satoshis or about $0.05 (about 5 US cents).

This is ridiculously low for such a high-tech and smart coin!


WHAT SHOULD THE MARKET CAP OF UNITUS BE IN OUR OPINION?

We think a fair comparison that some people who have caught on to Unitus already have made is to Vertcoin.

Vertcoin, just like Unitus, focused on miners and making the mining accessible to everyone with a simple graphics card. Like Unitus they also had a 100% fair launch and distribution where they offered 100% of the rewards to the miners.

12 months ago to this day one Vertcoin costed $0.033 (3.3 US cents), and the market cap was less than $1.1 million.

Today one Vertcoin costs $2.88 (2 dollars and 88 cents), and the market cap is around $123 million.

We believe that Unitus has every chance to become the next Vertcoin and the entire Angel Token Team as well as the Angel Token Private Investors Community (ATPIC) are all very excited about this investment and collaboration with Unitus.
19  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Tokens (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN][ICO] 🔥ANGEL TOKEN ICO IS OVER 🔥THANK YOU TO OUR 400+ INVESTORS! on: January 23, 2018, 10:57:54 PM
ANGEL TOKEN DIVIDEND DECLARATION NOTICE

Dear Investors,

The Angel Foundation is committed to keeping to our principals as laid down in our ICO Whitepaper. One of those commitments is to make regular payments of excess profits to our Angel Token holders. However, we are also committed to the higher goal of long-term growth in the value of the assets that we hold and so will always look to balance both the desire to pay dividends and to use excess profits to make more profits.

Our dividend declaration dates each year are January 23, April 23, July 23 and October 23. With payment 7 days later.

So, our first dividend declaration date is here and we hope that it is no surprise that we are NOT paying a dividend this time. We made the investment decision at the beginning of January to remain in Ether and not to invest in any other coins until we were ready to do so, despite some eager members of our investment community urging us to do so (and to whom we are grateful to for their encouragement).

We are in the process of building up our research facilities and in working discussion with a few investments (to act as Angel Investors and help these coins grow their exposure and market value) and that are looking forward to showing our community.

We look forward to many significant dividend payments going forward once we start investing.

The Angel Foundation Team
20  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Tokens (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN][ICO] 🔥ANGEL TOKEN ICO IS OVER 🔥THANK YOU TO OUR 400+ INVESTORS! on: January 18, 2018, 10:42:08 AM
We have now been listed on idex.market!

https://idex.market/eth/angl
https://twitter.com/Aurora_dao/status/953893842499129344



More to come as we are pushing ahead with bigger and better exchanges! In that regard, we have also applied to these following exchanges:

https://www.bit-z.com/exchange
https://gate.io/
https://www.okex.com/
https://www.bibox.com/
https://quoinex.com/
https://www.qryptos.com


Please continue to vote us on Next.Exchange as well as leave comments as to why Angel Token deserves to be on Next. It currently shows no comments since they are approving them only once a couple of days/once a week but once they do that our listing will look much better.

https://nextexchange.featureupvote.com/suggestions/3542/angel-token-angl
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