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1381  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Are successful gamblers seen as addicts? on: October 14, 2023, 12:30:47 AM
Successfully gamblers can also be seen with some level of relativity, personally I could say there are two types of this successful gamblers, one are those who happens to gat a big win once and quit gambling after wards, they could possibly be considered successful because they got a level of success and went on to build on it in a different venture.

Another class of successful gamblers could be seen as those have gotten some level of experience over the years and have got a strategy with which they gamble that usually turns out profitable for them most often than it turns against them, this people are successful and still in the act to consolidate on their success, now observing carefully you would see that the first set of successful gambler's were lucky and immediately discontinued

This is because they don't want to get to point nof addiction because they don't have a pattern with which they gamble they were only lucky at a shot , while the second do have a system with which they use to continually stay consistent and successful making it easy for them to keep their habit under control and not possibly get addicted.
Successful gamblers can be as you say, but some say that successful gamblers win more often than other gamblers. They can regulate their gambling and not be as passionate as other gamblers. And they can get the win but don't chase the win like other people. They can stop thinking there is still another win when they have already won.

This group of successful gamblers who have been gambling for years can make more money than other gamblers. They can learn from their mistakes and estimate their chances if they continue gambling. They will not be greedy in expecting another win and can think about when they should stop, especially after getting their win. They can also enjoy their winnings more often than other gamblers because they can stop on time after winning.

They can prevent their gambling addiction and are not tempted by other promotions. They think they have to control their thoughts so they don't become addicted to gambling.
Successful gamblers are to those gamblers who do really be able to make money and i would say that they arent considered addicts knowing that once you do come into a state or moment on which you are already that knowing on how to handle your bankroll or finances with gambling or simply having those management then i would say that you had already passed up on that condition on which you have already that get addicted because addicted people would really be that doing those bad decisions in regarding their fund handling and mostly messed up with their lives.
This is what i do call addiction on which on the time that you had made yourself getting wrecked with gambling but wasnt really be that able to do the right thing.
On the time that you had already recovered on such addiction and ended up on making  yourself that good or professional on gambling then i dont really considered it out to be addicted anymore
but rather they are the ones who are people who had learned their lessons and caught up according into it.

1382  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Best Practices for Staying Safe When Gambling on: October 13, 2023, 11:59:01 PM
It might be interesting to see a list of security measures you should take at physical casinos as the line between crypto and fiat currency betting is forever getting blurred. Things like avoiding the biggest drunks or people going through major mood swings. Keeping an eye on your chips at the table at all times, not being distracted by anyone - even if stuff is "accidentally" spilled on you for example. Watching your drink, because if people spike it you could potentially stand to lose large amounts of money. Keeping an eye out for collusion at the tables which may be working against you. It should be enforced by the dealer, but making sure people aren't touching the wrong places on the table that may interfere with the game.
Those are some great tips for someone who visits land-based casinos frequently. Another very important thing is to make sure that you are not being followed when you are going out from the casino, especially if you have managed to win some money and are headed back to your place. People often get sneaked up on and robbed when they get out of establishments where the attacker knows they have some money going back like banks, casinos, etc.

So, a person who gets out of a casino, alone, with some money or chips in the pocket, should first go to another public place, maybe use a washroom or something there, get into a crowd where they can get mixed in, and then sneak out from somewhere else so that if someone was following them they can lose them in the crowd and they don't get robbed and harmed.
If you were lucky enough to win big at the casino it would be a disgrace to be robbed just after it, however if you feel insecure you could ask some of the casino staff to escort you to your car and they will do it, as it is obvious casinos do not want that their lucky players lose it all because they were robbed as this will create negative publicity for them, still this is not a guarantee either as then you could be followed by the people trying to rob you and you could still lose your money anyway.
Whenever you would really be able to make some win on physical casinos specially jackpot prizes or something that it is really that significant on which it is really that something that could really be potentially for you to be abducted or would really be robbed then you wouldnt really be that so dumb on going out into the vicinity without minding about your security. THis is why it would really be that be wise if its possible that those winning amounts could be put up on a bank account or would be doing on online transfers or whatsoever or would really be getting those amounts on specific lump sum
so that you wont really be losing it all if ever there are things that would happen.
1383  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Will you cheat in gambling? on: October 13, 2023, 11:20:04 PM
As far as I'm concerned, gambling isn't a platform to find honest people and shouldn't be an avenue to test the people's sincerity. The purpose of gambling is to get massive wins at the end of the day and that's why almost every gambler will do anything humanly possible to make sure he wins his gambles including cheating. No one would want to stake their hard earned money and never want to get a big reward at the end so that's why gamblers will always continue to manipulate their ways to victory.
We cheats either among ourselves or find means to hacked the system and goes against terms and conditions. We would do anything to gain profits from the system, because everything related to gambling is risks, and these gamblers can afford to take it inother to grab meaningful resources. You're right, gamblers doesn't have these honesty attributes, rather they seek for the benefits of themselves alone, having no concerns of the potential consequences on their colleagues. All gamblers faced the possible outcomes of their actions, be it positive or negative, all that matters is accumulating profits at the end of the day.
While it is true that cheating can be highly possible in gambling especially if you are in a constant loss, but that does not mean that we gamble to cheat so we can make big profits at the end of the day. If we see the casino is trying to rigged the games, then we should also do some tricks to keep us winning. However, reputable casinos will never chose to break their credibility that was built for long years, that’s why we should not worry thinking that they resort into cheating their players.
The question is,

How you would really be able to cheat? Is it possible that you could really be able to make some exploit on the site you are playing on?
Would you make multiple accounts on cheating up a particular promotion or bonus?  I dont think that it would really be that so easy nowadays if you do have those kind of plans.
Gambling site nowadays wont really be have much with those kind of holes when it comes on being that to be possibly be abused. Security measures and whatever terms they do have
would really be simply implied or applied on which there's no way that a certain player would really be able to cheat technically or would really be abusing on whatever
bonuses and promotions that people would really be able deal with but cant possibly cheat because of those terms been put up.
1384  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: benefits of having mature accounts at 3 casinos (personal experience) on: October 13, 2023, 10:55:41 PM
I know that most of us here do understand how these promos, cashbacks and other bonuses that these casinos gives. Yeah, it may not be worth it compared to the wagering that we're doing there.

But each of us have different satisfaction pertaining to that. It's like that you're able to win against them despite losing your bankroll because you still have that cash back or bonus that you'll get based from the amount that you've wagered.

I don't know how to explain that feeling but let's just leave it there, yes, it may not be worth it to you folks but it is for some.
Better than have nothing,right? You would really be having that kind of impression and comparison in between to those sites which do offer cashbacks and to those who arent.
It does really give out that kind of feeling that you would really be choosing a site which does have that kind of offering that they would be giving some cashback on which it might
that small but gamblers mind that it is really that good than have nothing and you would be having that kind of belief that even small amounts could really
be that having a chance for it to win and might be able to make some significant win. This is why its still a good offer.

I agree into those words above that having that multiple accounts wont be an issue as long you do have the money or funds that you could really
be able to make use but if its really just that enough then having that single account would really be just that enough.
Yup.

It's better to have that than nothing. Since you're into gambling and you're loyal to a casino, you should get that as a reward and that's much better than you get nothing back when you gamble.

Just like what we're spending on different things, we feel better when we get something back after spending a lot of money and that's why in cash backs, promos, etc. coming from the casinos, it's so much satisfying and better.
Yep, it doesnt really give out that kind of frustration that much whenever you do really that able to get something on the time that you've been playing for a while on a certain platform.
Yes, its true that despite of the losses that you would be having then that would really be easing out that kind of stress and disappointment just like on what i had said earlier that
it is one of the methods that making those old gamblers would really be staying on a site just because they do really love on what the site is giving into them even though it is really that small
but at least having some cashbacks is really that showing that the site is really that having some care about their loyal players. It might not that much but as said that its better
rather than on having nothing at all. It is really just that other people would really be that skeptical about bonuses and perks just because it is really just that a trap or
something that they would really be still have the advantage.
1385  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: The madness of gambling addicts. on: October 13, 2023, 10:46:30 PM
That's right, people who are addicted to gambling must immediately realize that they are in a very worrying situation, meaning they will continue gambling until all their money is gone. Wouldn't it be very sad if that actually happened to someone?

It is true that the temptation to gamble is very powerful if we are tempted repeatedly, and this triggers greed in a person to win, by gambling continuously then every thought is chasing victory and chasing defeat, and if he doesn't immediately realize it. . then it will become more dangerous for him, and regret will come after everything falls apart and all his money is lost.
Almost all gambling addicts feel the same way. They all can't control themselves when gambling, which makes their lives worse, even 7x worse, for those who have the ambition to reverse many losses in the hope of winning. Even if it drags on, they will still lose if they continue to play with an unstable emotional condition.

That's why we need a strategy when playing gambling, maybe one example of a strategy that can be applied is being able to control the right time to gamble, don't force yourself to play with a calm mind. After that, the strategy is to make it difficult to access money, meaning don't easily spend money as you please, you have to be smart about managing your finances, you have to make money outposts, for example how much you want to invest, how much you want to gamble on, apart from that, money for your daily needs.
Yes, that's right, there are lots of gamblers who can't control themselves when gambling and experience very worrying conditions, as I've seen before, gamblers who play frequently and without controlling themselves and the money at stake, they have experienced depression because they ran out of money. and much more. debt here and there.

That's right, you need to have the right and balanced strategy in managing your money when you want to gamble, prioritize meeting your daily needs and being able to invest, use only a small amount of money if you want to gamble.
You would really be ending up on deep debt on the time that you do really tolerate out such addiction on which we know that this is most likely where addicted gamblers would really be that able to experience out on the time that they would really be that impulsive on spending up their money or fund through gambling. This is why it would really be just that right that you should really be that careful when it comes to spending. Gambling isnt bad as long you do make yourself that responsible because if not then you would really be that spending like a mad man and there's no limit until the time comes that there's no money that you could really be able to pull into your pocket or simply you had lost it all and the worst you have spend even your life savings.
Dont really that come into a point that you will really be that something like this because you will really be that ending up on that miserable life.

If you dont like on having this kind of situation or thing that will happen towards yourself then its better to gamble responsibly and never ever make yourself go into a certain extent
on which spending is really just really that like a mad man.
1386  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Who among you here is gambling at work? on: October 13, 2023, 08:53:19 PM
It affected my job performance because, as you may know, when you lose, you tend to dwell on your losses and constantly think about strategies to win.
It is the reason why we mustn't gamble at work.
We must lose our mood when we experience a loss, moreover it is a big loss. Even, maybe there is a gamble who can't forget the loss for few days. Of course, it will bring big impact on our job/work. We probably lose our focus, we can't work with good feeling. That may lead to a worse performance on our job/work.

Well, gambling at work should be avoided. Although we assume to gamble for fun at work, but it probably ends up with bad feeling if we experience bad luck at that time. No one can feel happy when he/she experiences losses.  Grin


Once we would be losing our mood when we are at work then just like on what others saying above that efficient at work would really be greatly affected and if it happens then it would happen your overall performance and if things becomes more worst then you might really get fired or would really be replaced. Is this something that would really be worthy in exchange with your gambling leisure needs? No its not! This is why its really that recommended that you shouldnt really be that doing gambling when you are at work and its not really something that recommended on doing so and its
never been that recommended that you would really be making yourself that involving with some gambling on the time that you are at work.
Ever since i dont have this kind of experience on trying to gamble in my work hours, aside from that it isnt allowed but also im really that too keen on spending up money
with gambling which we know that its not really that something too easy to spend some money on gambling specially if you are really that just an average earner.
1387  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: How often is your luck in gambling? on: October 13, 2023, 08:37:11 PM
This Filipina did not even expect she won the grand prize on lottery instead she thought of winning just consolation prizes. Lucky for her she had that financial stability for 25 years as $6,670+ a month here in the Philippines is pretty huge.

https://www.gmanetwork.com/news/pinoyabroad/content/882861/pinay-wins-over-p387-000-a-month-for-25-years-in-emirates-draw/story/

I am not lucky in lottery or any gambling casinos but way back in 2017 the only luck I encountered was I gambled with the risk of joining bounty hunting on this forum and it is worth it.

How about you guys, are you having a good fortune on your gambling career? Do you ever think of quitting after you won a jackpot?
There are really people who are really that born lucky on this world on which to those people who are mostly not really that expecting something on their lottery bets or whatever expectations they do have, comparing into those people who do keeps on betting and buying tons of tickets but ended up on not to hit those combinations then it would surely be bringing out that kind of frustration.
Checking out on the link then having that monthly payment for the next 25 years would already be that enough for you to have a secured living and im wondering on why they havent
really been able to get it on bulk amount or did the winner did really just decide to get that lump sum but whatever the case is then its a life changing opportunity or change that she had.
Lottery jackpot winners would really be having that life changing situation considering on the amount that they have won. It is really just that there are ones who are really that mindful about
financial management and hopefully that the winner stated on OP would really be making use of those amounts in much worthy ways or method even though it was given on staggard terms
or in division but at least its always been that important on having that management.

Making yourself that careless or wont be mindful about spending would definitely be making some mess up later on. It is really that important that you should
know to handle your finances if you dont like on getting poor or being that an average earner once again.
1388  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Winning Wisely: Strategies to Protect Your Bankroll on: October 13, 2023, 07:32:58 PM
I only know one thing for a gambler to play wisely: when he wins between $30 and $50, maybe it's a warning to stop; don't try to continue, because what frequently happens to those who continue even after winning is that they finally lose. Numerous gamblers have experienced this numerous times.
There times I stop  from continually gambling for the day immediately I make my first win irrespective of the amount won I'll just stop never try to continue with another bet and adjoin my gambling to the next day and each periods I do so it aids me in prolonging the time frame for my bankroll before it could get exhausted. Sometimes gamblers should be wise to discontinue with gambling for the day if they just got a win either at their first bet or made a win after been subjected to a few losses. The wisdom there is that you don't go home with an exhausted pocket or a completely emptied account. You still have a sum left to start with the next day.
It's good if you can stop after getting your first win. That can remind us to realize that we won't be able to win too often. We must be able to stop after winning whatever the amount. And if they continue gambling, they may lose again, which could be a big loss that will cost them all their money. Moreover, we know that gambling will not give us easy wins, so we must be aware of it. It's a good idea not to go home empty-handed because when we've managed to win some money, we've managed to get it, and it's time for us to go home.
But to be very honest It's not that easy ending the gambling just like that for that very day, it really demands great discipline to usually stick to the idea as there are occasions I get carried away by my own enthusiasm in the game and snob the thought of stopping since I have managed to get  a win.  It's as if I turn out to become my own obstacle to my subscribed idea. Lol.  Nevertheless, if we're able to keep to standards we have created  to guide our conduct, behavior and decisions on how we would handle our gambling life it will earn us a healthy gambling lifestyle.

One thing I have noticed about gambling is that when you finally make a winning, there will be different thought in you whether to continue gambling to earn more or stop and go home. Sometimes we might think that the amount we have won is not good enough since we might have make loses in other bets and the winning we have might not be sufficient when we make substraction from it.

This is how greed comes in and we can as well end up losing that profit we had made because we do not have a good financial discipline to help us and guide us through unnecessary mistakes like this. It is good we have a plan which is going to guide us through our gambling journey.
Some win, some lose. And the excitement you get when you win! It's very thrilling! But suddenly the ideas begin to flow... Should I continue? Shall I give up? Can we really win now? Particularly when you consider previous setbacks. Isn't it similar to a loop?

I can recall feeling the same way once following a respectable victory. Because of past setbacks, the victory didn't feel sufficient. Greed is a sneaky thing. Additionally, it is simple to slip into its trap if one lacks sound financial discipline. It's not fun, I promise; I've been there. It is imperative, very imperative, to have a plan. A strategy that directs and stabilizes you. Though it should be enjoyable, gambling can result in regret if it is not done responsibly. Thus, make a plan and follow it at all times
when you are stuck in between the decision of continuing with the gambling or to stop after getting a winning that's when you will acknowledge your level of discipline by the decision you took in that instant.

Gambling victory can never be sufficient it's the person that will determine the sufficiency but when we place our problem on the amount we have won and the problem outweighs it double that's when we easily give in to  the greed to try another bet again to  increase the winning amount get a sufficient amount that can solve our problem. And this decision to continue is usually followed by drastic losing leaving you with no penny at all. Greed in gambling is consuming and it's necessary  gamblers learn  to defeat their greed in such circumstance.
Its impossible that you wont really be having those kind of pause and minding about on the situation or condition that you are in on which whether you should really be proceeding on making more bets or would really be just simply stop and call it a day. Each person does have their own level of tolerance and control towards gambling activity which some would really be having those kind of fixed mindset on which on the time that they do win then they do completely stop midway and doesnt tend to break those rules that they do have set earlier but in most cases that we do know on which the most common behavior of a gambler is that they would really be continuing on playing as long they do have the balance on which they could really be able to make use. Bankroll is something that you do really need to make it last longer if you are really that trying to make out most of it specially on leisure or entertaining yourself but if you are minding on how to make it grow then it would really be creating that kind of behavior on which you would really be that desperate.

Gambling is for fun but majority would really be thinking about on how to win and how to make yourself lucky. You wont really be minding about on how to deal up with the risks
which such as been said that as long you do have the funds or the balance that you do have in your gambling account, then most likely you would really be that continuing
to play no matter what.
1389  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Low cost but effective solutions to gambling addiction on: October 13, 2023, 06:47:23 PM
One of the solutions which is recommended by most gamblers on this forum for gambling addiction is "Therapy" . Professional help in the form of therapy. It is good and very effective but how many persons can actually afford it? There is a fee for each session that lasts for a duration of 60minutes. And there are more than one session. Therapy for gambling addiction is expensive. How can those who are unemployed afford it? How about the college student? Or the person receiving minimum wage. What are the other low cost but very effective solutions to gambling addiction. And typically how long will it take before the addict starts to feel more in control and less withdrawal symptoms?
Will totally appreciate your responses. Thanks.

Dont know if its actually cheap but this one involves with those numbers.
Dont know if this one is accurate because services cost and PF's would be entirely be depending on a certain country.

Individual Cost of Gambling Rehab
Sessions: $165

Family Cost of Gambling Rehab
Sessions: $345

Even More Affordable Option | Group Therapy
Sessions: $50


Source: https://kindbridge.com/gambling/cost-of-gambling-rehab/

With those numbers above then i dont see that it would really be that cheap or low cost. This is why some gambling addicts would really be just that
simply be keeping that addiction for themselves and wont really be tending to tell someone. Self will should be enough and then if it doesnt work then family help would be
next in line but if not then therapy would be your option.
1390  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Can Gambling affect your relationship? on: October 13, 2023, 06:07:39 PM
Yes, although initially they may believe and think that gambling will not affect everything around them including relationships with some of their closest people. but I say that it's just their feelings because they have entered the addiction phase so there they like to justify all means, assume that their mindset is correct when in reality it is very ridiculous. As we know that those who are already addicted bring a very strange mindset, thinking that they will be able to make money from gambling, is it true? have you proven it? I say no, how can you want to make money in a place that only relies on luck to be able to win, it makes no sense. The fact is you keep losing and losing everything you have, there's no doubt you've borrowed from people just to gamble and you're doing it for something that doesn't even give you any guarantees.

It is very clear that the negative impact of gambling is not only you who will feel it but the people around you will also definitely be carried away by the negative flow. Yes for those who are already addicted, as I said above there is no doubt at all to spend money just to gamble, the salary they get from working for a month they will spend just for one or two days gambling, not healthy. Basically, it is quite difficult if they are already addicted, they need help from people around them to justify their wrong mindset.
Wrong assumptions would really be ending up whether a disaster or the right call on which most of the time when it comes to gambling then having those kind of thoughts really do end up negatively.
This is why it would really be that better that you should really be sensible on what are the things that you are doing specially that getting in touch or dealing with gambling on which we do know that it is really that imposing such risks and lots of people do really fail on trying out to control themselves and this is why disasters do really happen in the end of the line. Gambling could really affect with your familys relationship on which it would really be just that so normal that if finances had already that ended up on getting compromised or affected then it would be that normal that
needs and wants are already that been in concern.

No wife will really be happy on seeing that your children is really that suffering when it comes to their needs just because their father is really that too irresponsible when it comes to spending.
Its never been recommendable that you would really be that secretive towards your gambling activity because on the time that you would get caught then for sure it would really might
result into divorce if its not been fixed or been properly be resolved out. We dont know on what would happen because decisions be made will really vary.

Well I also don't understand whether they really don't realize that the mindset and assumptions they bring are beyond common sense, as you said the mistake of putting assumptions will end up with something they don't want at all. So we have to really be wiser in seeing things, especially in this gambling, I understand there are opportunities but I say the chances are very small and the fact is that you are always difficult to get a win there, so with that alone it has been proven that the mindset you bring cannot prove anything including your own expectations, and even if it is proven but maybe only occasionally from the dozens of trials you have done. In the event that you've got a lot of time on your hands, you're going to want to make sure that you've got a good idea of what you're going to do.

In terms of family relationships, I think this is quite easy to guess, as we know when someone is married, there will be basic needs that must always be met, such as feeding his wife and children is mandatory, while gambling greatly affects a person's finances, meaning that it is clear that the family economy will be disrupted or decreased due to one of them gambling. In fact, as you said friend, it is not uncommon for many to end up divorced because they cannot afford all the financial conditions that are getting worse. So the point is that gambling has a very negative impact on everything around you, so there is no other way to avoid it unless you stop.
Would really be that mind boggling on how someone would really be just simply ignore with those risks if ever they would really be making out such action. It would really be that impossible that you wont really be able to notice up such possibilities that could happen ahead. Self will is there and we do know on whats wrong and whats right but it cant be avoided that you do tolerate out such behavior even if you do know on what are those possible consequences but still you do decide to go further and do really continue on what you do have in mind. I would say that its never been worth on destroying your families relation specially into your wife and into your kids just because of gambling. Mistakes could happen but as much as possible then you better avoid that because gambling is really just for entertainment and its not something that would really be worth for you to be able to in exchange with your family situation and condition specially on finances or money.

Dont make yourself that ending up on banging your head into the wall just because you have lost your family or loved ones because of the action that you had made.
Regret do always come at the end and if you arent really that careful nor mindful about your actions then most likely you would be experiencing such devastated situation on your entire life
on which it could bring out that entire life regret and telling that you shouldnt have done that.
1391  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: benefits of having mature accounts at 3 casinos (personal experience) on: October 13, 2023, 05:28:11 PM
What's the point of spending $5k without having any fun to reach the rank and then get $20 or $30 per week? You could enjoy more with that money without worrying about your rank.
It's like a cashback and there are gamblers that do really like to have it as a consolation so, there's a point on it since they're all for gambling and casinos do give it up as a reward for having that threshold and wager.
But if you do think up sensibly about those cashbacks then it would really be just peanuts on the amount that you had totally spent out on the platform on which it is really just some sort of compliment just to ease that frustration via means on giving out those cashbacks but totally speaking then it isnt really that worth for you to catch up or something that you would really be thriving to reach.
Just like been said that they are really just doing this for the sake of making those players stay or really easing up the pain and frustration that they are feeling on on the time that they do make
losses with their gambling actions and it is really thats somewhat effective just because there are tons of people or gamblers who are really that getting hooked up on trying out to reach those levels.
I know that most of us here do understand how these promos, cashbacks and other bonuses that these casinos gives. Yeah, it may not be worth it compared to the wagering that we're doing there.

But each of us have different satisfaction pertaining to that. It's like that you're able to win against them despite losing your bankroll because you still have that cash back or bonus that you'll get based from the amount that you've wagered.

I don't know how to explain that feeling but let's just leave it there, yes, it may not be worth it to you folks but it is for some.
Better than have nothing,right? You would really be having that kind of impression and comparison in between to those sites which do offer cashbacks and to those who arent.
It does really give out that kind of feeling that you would really be choosing a site which does have that kind of offering that they would be giving some cashback on which it might
that small but gamblers mind that it is really that good than have nothing and you would be having that kind of belief that even small amounts could really
be that having a chance for it to win and might be able to make some significant win. This is why its still a good offer.

I agree into those words above that having that multiple accounts wont be an issue as long you do have the money or funds that you could really
be able to make use but if its really just that enough then having that single account would really be just that enough.
1392  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Cross addictions is Just as Bad. on: October 13, 2023, 12:59:04 PM
Cross addiction is as worst as the main addiction you are trying to quit and it is a terrible idea. But what is cross addiction?
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What Are Cross Addictions?
Cross addiction, also known as addiction transfer or addiction interaction disorder, occurs in various ways. First, an individual may simultaneously engage in substance abuse and maladapative behavioral patterns (medically referred to as behavioral or process addictions). Second, a person may replace one addiction with another (i.e., substituting opioids with cannabis). Third, an addictive behavior may precede a chemical addiction or vice versa.
https://www.choosingtherapy.com/cross-addiction/

So a friend told me that a mutual friend tried to replace his gambling addiction with another another one because he has tried all everything else. The new addiction is PS4. He pays for extra on the game and he is getting more and more into it. According to my friend, this mutual friend feels that paying $20 per month its subscription is better than $100- $500 on slots where he ends up losing.

Well I told him that this is basically cross addiction and what that mutual friend is trying to do is like running away from the truth. Not wanting to face the core issue. So he is justify spending $20 and not on slots when both are unhealthy addictions that can have far reaching consequences. He just has to sit and face his addiction head on without looking for a replacement addiction which is just as bad.

Ever heard of cross addiction or suffered from it?
What do you think?
gambling can be very exhausting when we have try as much and we can, not making any winnings. We need to gamble not too much since we still have opportunity to win in the future. Because you are not making winnings does not mean that we are not going to make profits when our own time comes. It is good for us to develop our own strategies so that we can be rest assured of earning some little amount from betting to fix our bills and leave a better lifestyle. Addiction is one thing we need to work on to prevent unnecessary betting which can Iead to loses.
Majority of us would really be that impatient specially if we do really be able to observe or notice out that we arent making some significant winnings on the time that we are playing on which you would really be having that kind of thinking that it might really be still lacking more involvement or time spending with it on which it would really be resulting into further session which on the time that you would really be that making it already as a hobby or past time then it would really be that hard to get out unless if you do have that kind of control towards yourself then you could just easily make out some switch then it would really be just according on a certain individual since not all would really be having on the same level when it comes to tolerance and control into things.

Many former drug addicts (although we must understand that there are no former drug addicts) say that they got rid of drug addiction by replacing drugs with alcohol. But in essence, the person has not lost anything, has not overcome his addictions, and is only aggravating his situation. Gambling addiction and drug and alcohol addiction must be treated by professionals, and this requires a long period of time. A person will not be able to get out of this hole on his own, since it is deeply connected with the psyche. Some improvements that seem like real changes to others are just a game of time until the person again has a breakdown and returns to his old habits.
When it comes to addiction then any forms would really be something that devastating and it would really be just that depending or would really be that according into someones
will and determination about on quitting on such addiction whether on gambling,liqour,drugs or whatsoever types of addiction that you are currently suffering.
Making yourself getting distracted into other things will really be that possibly be able to make yourself that stop and completely break that shackle of addiction.
It wont really be that easy but its not really something that impossible to hapen.
1393  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: My dice strategy for quick 0.5x on: October 13, 2023, 12:19:36 PM
The best part is i read the title as "Easy way to halve your money" lol.

As with all other gambling strategies, they work extremely well till they dont. If you want to make an "easy" +0.5x then statistically speaking the most optimal way is to do it in a single bet.
Just like with those very common and ancient method of martingale system. Few consecutive losses or streaks would really blown up your balance. Dealing up with dice is never been giving out that assurance that you would really be getting the same results on which you could really be able to exploit and milk out. I have experienced the worst martingale consecutive losses which it did really reach up to 24x as far as i remember. No matter how big your bankroll is, when losing streak comes then expect you would really be having a blown account balance unless if you do set some
stop loss then you might save up yourself but since these bets are instant then knowing it beforehand would really be that too late.

Single bet with 1.5x roll then its whether a win or loss then its up to you whether you would continue or would really be just continuing but most likely
people would really be that continuing until they would blow up their entire account balance.
1394  Other / Off-topic / Re: Do you play while listening music? on: October 13, 2023, 10:19:32 AM
Which is more entertaining? playing games listening to music or without music just sound of the games like roulette ball bouncing on the metal wheel or playing games in silence?
While listening to music its hard to control our emotions while losing and we are not able to concentrate on game. it is highly likely that we blow our account by betting high.
but it is more entertaining while listening music on low volume and playing games.

We do speak about roulette game then i do listen up my own playlist when the ball is rollin rather than on hearing out those literal sounds.I dont mind much about concentration knowing that
roulette game is really that just heavily rely on luck and its some game that doesnt really need up for some analysis on which it is really that something that ends up on preference
because there are ones who doesnt really like on getting those kind of distraction on the time that they are playing and this is why they would really be liking on having those normal sounds and
doesnt really like on some mix up.
Op, don't take this the wrong way, but I don't think such topics are really necessary to be discussed here on the gambling board.it should be in the off topic section.

Nevertheless, we all enjoy listening to music while doing different things, be it reading, resting, playing games as you stated. What ever you choose to use it for it's usually fits in place. Music is a work of art that can express ones feelings it state at that particular time. When playing games, I prefer listening to the sounds of the games and not music as it make me feel the game more.
Not totally that off topic since this one is really that considered to be valid topic since it do really connects out with gambling rather than on
talking again on how to avoid gambling addiction kind of topic once again.  Cheesy
1395  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Gender in Gambling [differences between Women and Men in Gambling] on: October 12, 2023, 11:59:28 PM

Im with this, on the time that we are on our gambling session then we dont really care whether we are against or in table with neither other men or some women which it isnt really that our concern
in regarding on this kind of moment because you would really be solely be focusing on the game and how you would really be making out some good decision towards your gambling session.
I dont know on why there are really some people who are really that too mindful about gender or in between men and women in regarding on dealing up with things which we know that
gambling is really that for everyone. There's no such thing about being having the limit on what gender could be able to play or not which its free for everyone.

It do really just turned out that there are really people who are really that love to make some issues or talks about those women who do get involved with gambling.
Yes, its unusual but doesnt mean that they are prohibited on going into these premises on the time that they would be deciding on having some entertainment for themselves.
Nowadays it doesnt matter what gender you do have because it is really that always free for everyone for you to play as long you do have the money then thats what really counts.


You are right, there are people who keeps minding others' business and they love talking about it, and just like what you said women gambler is already existing and it's just to those who translate what they are seeing but in the point where equality is already practice then there's nothing that they should talk or discuss, it's freedom that can also be entertained by both genders. You can see both men and women mostly inside the offshore casino enjoying together if the government allows this kind of entertainment and that's it.



Why we cant really just sit and be silent whenever we do see women playing gambling specially on physical places? It is really just that there are people who do really love to getting mind on others actions or business. Tongue We should leave them alone because gambling isnt really just that limited for men but rather also for women and this is in fact its free for everyone. Just like been said that we arent really just getting used to see those women inside on gambling premisses and this is why we do really have something to say whenever we do really encounter women into these places.
Speaking of luck then it would really just the same and as we know that luck does come if you are really that lucky into that point.


No matter who wins, men and women in gambling, greed increases. However, women are a little less greedy. Those who are more greedy start playing again without taking a break if they win gambling. But those who are wise will take a break once they win. There is a kind of greed among gamblers. Women are not easily allowed by their family members to gamble. Because he has to be busy with their family work. People who are very rich and do not have the pressure of family work gamble for fun.
Humans are naturally greedy no matter what gender you do have.Luck would come randomly doesnt matter what gender you do have and everything would really be that not known.
This is why it wont matter on what gender you do have because chances of winning would really be just depending on how luck you are on that particular time.
There's no difference it is really just on gender, it is really just they arent really that common into these vicinity.
1396  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Can Gambling affect your relationship? on: October 12, 2023, 11:27:18 PM
Yes, Gambling addiction has strained a lot of relationships through financial instabilities emotional turmoil, social isolation, and family problems.

People who have become addicted to gambling and think that they can generate income from gambling, are examples of people who will have damaged relationships, whether family, business, or partner. I often meet people like that. When they earn $500 in a month then they use almost 3/4 of their income to gamble. They hope their bet will be good several times over. Some people can use under 10% of their income to have fun, but the problem is that not everyone can control their desires so they don't get addicted.

Yes, although initially they may believe and think that gambling will not affect everything around them including relationships with some of their closest people. but I say that it's just their feelings because they have entered the addiction phase so there they like to justify all means, assume that their mindset is correct when in reality it is very ridiculous. As we know that those who are already addicted bring a very strange mindset, thinking that they will be able to make money from gambling, is it true? have you proven it? I say no, how can you want to make money in a place that only relies on luck to be able to win, it makes no sense. The fact is you keep losing and losing everything you have, there's no doubt you've borrowed from people just to gamble and you're doing it for something that doesn't even give you any guarantees.

It is very clear that the negative impact of gambling is not only you who will feel it but the people around you will also definitely be carried away by the negative flow. Yes for those who are already addicted, as I said above there is no doubt at all to spend money just to gamble, the salary they get from working for a month they will spend just for one or two days gambling, not healthy. Basically, it is quite difficult if they are already addicted, they need help from people around them to justify their wrong mindset.
Wrong assumptions would really be ending up whether a disaster or the right call on which most of the time when it comes to gambling then having those kind of thoughts really do end up negatively.
This is why it would really be that better that you should really be sensible on what are the things that you are doing specially that getting in touch or dealing with gambling on which we do know that it is really that imposing such risks and lots of people do really fail on trying out to control themselves and this is why disasters do really happen in the end of the line. Gambling could really affect with your familys relationship on which it would really be just that so normal that if finances had already that ended up on getting compromised or affected then it would be that normal that
needs and wants are already that been in concern.

No wife will really be happy on seeing that your children is really that suffering when it comes to their needs just because their father is really that too irresponsible when it comes to spending.
Its never been recommendable that you would really be that secretive towards your gambling activity because on the time that you would get caught then for sure it would really might
result into divorce if its not been fixed or been properly be resolved out. We dont know on what would happen because decisions be made will really vary.
1397  Economy / Gambling / Re: ⚡⚡Knight.bet no.1 Online Casino!⚡⚡ on: October 12, 2023, 10:56:25 PM
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It's unbelievable that the creator of this thread keeps coming to the forum and posting in the altcoin markets section, but the guy doesn't have time to answer the questions that people are asking in this thread, and from what I see the casino is no longer working either , at least right now that I clicked on that casino link, it is not working, I suppose this could be an indication that Op was unable to have time to manage the casino and so preferred to give up on this business. obviously this is a right that OP has, when anyone realizes that what they intend to do is not going to work, then it is better that they immediately stop what they are doing to avoid having a lot of failure, having headaches, having high losses

Managing a casino is not easy, you have to have a lot of capital and time, you have to pay employees' salaries, and when the casino doesn't have many customers, then the money to pay the salaries, the server, the game providers, in other words pay All operating costs come out of the casino owner's pocket, and this operating cost can be very expensive. but op is doing the wrong thing by not saying in this thread that the casino will no longer work, and locking this thread. he preferred to ignore everyone and continues to enter the forum sometimes. This is a very shameful attitude
Casino link shows "Connection timed out" so it does mean that this site link is dead. So expect that OP wont really be minding on coming back into the thread that he had made since it did fail completely on which its not really that something new anymore. New casino sites ended up on biting the dust considering that they arent getting recognition or attention towards the market
and this is why its not really that shocking that they will really be just simply abandon their thread as if there's nothing happened.

Managing or running a casino is never been simple or something a cheap kind of business venture. You would really be needing that budget on which you would really be needing to have
because even just lets say about marketing stuff then it would really be still that requiring that budget or allocation for such part.
You cant really just simply introduce but doesnt really make out some marketing because it would r eally be ending up on a failure.
1398  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Gambler avoiding friends after a big win. on: October 12, 2023, 10:36:31 PM
While I believe in the saying that "Money reveals Evil" I don't think the guy who's been hiding from his friends are in the wrong here. And I'm not just saying this for the sake of being the devil's advocate or whatever the fuck.

First off, let's set things straight, he won a lot of money, did he win it because of his friends? Did they win it through the power of friendship or whatever the fuck? I don't think so. From that alone you would understand that the winner is in no way liable to give anything to his friends, he's not indebted to them monetarily or whatever, and if he would be generous to give his friends something back, it's all from good will and not because he owes his friends something. You people act like people owe you for your existence or presence when everything's just a matter of circumstance. Everyone who's saying the winner's on the wrong here should get off their high horses cause most likely, if you were in his shoes you'd probably do something even worse lol.
100% agree with ideas like this. Heck, even if they did somehow influence him say, by telling him to bet on this or on that with this amount and he managed to win big because of that, it does not give them any right to want to take a part of the winnings. If he ever did say treat them to food or something, then as you've said, good will. If not, well, I see no need to judge him, man might have some problems to pay so the winnings were basically gone the moment he got them.

Selfishness isn't wrong imo, especially in this dog shit economy. I'd avoid all matters of money-related issues as well if possible and just save up as much as I can if I could.
Even if it means on losing some relation into some friends then it wont really be that much of an issue.I do heavily agree about on the winnings that you do have on which on the time that it would landed into your hands then you would definitely be making up some priority on paying up your debts on which it would really be that main priority and this is why it would really be that better that you should really be that wise on allocatiing those funds rather than on sharing it up into some friends just because they have given up some tips on what bet you should be taking. There really some friends who do really have that kind of entitling kind of approach on which on the time that their friend make out some huge win then they would really be having those kind of claims that they are really that
having those kind of shares.

This is why you cant really blame someone to have that kind of reaction or action been made just because the are really that people who wont really be that caring about
relationship with other people as long they could really be able to deal with their priorities on which i dont see anything something wrong with it.
1399  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: If we lose in gambling, what do we need to do? on: October 12, 2023, 09:59:38 PM
Most people tend to believe that they can recover their losses with subsequent wins, but the reality is quite the opposite. The more they bet, the more they end up losing. I understand that it's challenging to control oneself in such situations. The thoughts of losses keep nagging at us, tempting us to rush in and recover immediately. As a result, we often end up losing everything. So, what I typically do when facing losses is to shut down the computer, exit gambling websites, and step away. Going somewhere or engaging in sports is a better way to take your mind off them. After a break, I find that my emotions improve, and my thinking becomes clearer, helping me avoid unnecessary losses.

This is the most rational strategy. But I adhere to an even more radical one - I take a “vacation” from betting not even when I lose, but simply when I notice that betting takes up too much of my thoughts and distracts me from my other life. I love betting and sometimes I am very lucky (I have made significant withdrawals of money) but I understand that betting will not change my life as much as I can do it myself.
Vacation or making yourself get involved with some sports. It doesnt really need for you to be that doing other things which involves money on which you could really just simply deal up with other activities as long it would really be diverting out your interest or attention with gambling.Losing is part of gambling and if you arent that prepared on losing then gambling isnt just for you. This is why it would really be that always important that you should really be that mindful on whatever actions that you are making and not really just making yourself that get addicted.
If we lose in gambling then better to have some break and if have lost significant amount then taking up some break wont really be that hurting or a bad idea.

Addicted gamblers would really be usually be ending up on a disaster or having that huge blown out on their finances on the time that they do really tolerate
out their gambling addiction which is something that it is really that dangerous on doing so. This is why it would be ideal that you should really know on how to control yourself
when it comes to gambling dealing and spending because we arent that dumb not to know about the risks that involves.
1400  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: 🕹️ Esports 🎮 Prediction & Discussion Thread on: October 12, 2023, 09:16:52 PM
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I haven't confirmed the predictions for this match because in the early days like this I tend to prefer to observe it and be able to study how each team that competes plays so that later when I feel like I have enough information I can easily make predictions for each match.

Kinda understandable that most people will skip the BO2 group stage because its pretty volatile but if you are looking for match that give you all those suspense you are looking for then betting on BO2 is pretty fun. There are some teams that are pretty dominant compared to the other team so if you actually have been following dota2 scene from the previous tournament then you would know which teams to pick for the bet
At TI11 and TI10, I bet in the group stage of the tournament on teams that were clearly expected to win, but often it turned out differently and they lost. After this bad experience I will bet with great caution. Moreover, I may try to bet on outsiders with large odds in the group stage, but at the moment I haven't yet decided on whom exactly. 9Pandas are playing inconsistently, maybe it will be them, but against Team Spirit on the first day it was obvious to me that they would lose.
There are really match ups on which you could really say that there's no way on beating up a certain group by other group basing up on past events and match up on which you could really be confidently be able to say that it would be a sure win but just like you do say that everything is really that too unpredictable or not really that certain. Come to look at on GG which we know that these are those reigning champs on majors but on this groupstage which they had already suffering some losses and they shouldn't really be that too confident yet this tournament isnt something that
you could really compare to majors. Every tactics and strategies would really be shown on here which it wasnt really been shown on other tournaments. So confidence isnt something that
should be tolerated specially on those Tier 1 teams. Dark horses and upset could happen real quick.  Smiley
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