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61  Economy / Speculation / Re: TA indicates a sharp drop soon on: June 16, 2020, 05:43:38 PM
TA applies to every natural force in the universe, humans trade BTC so it applies.   Just dont call definites and we good.



Possible channel down, I think bearish is a reasonable consideration at this point.  Process not event
  Lower highs, bullish trends worn and passed, retested.   Only factor that doesnt really fit for greater negative is mostly rising moving averages.


I think there is strong support in the $7k area. Unless there is manipulation, we are not going to see $5k.
62  Economy / Speculation / Re: TA indicates a sharp drop soon on: June 16, 2020, 02:00:54 PM
Speculation has nothing to do with the fact that you are on a mission to spread FUD on this forum. What analysis can predict that 1 BTC will be worth $0.85 in year 2028? It has nothing to do with any technical analysis or market sentiment, it’s just plain nonsense coming out of your mind.


Supply being captured by governments, through paper speculation and contracts, and then creating a global, centralized cryptocurrency to take its place.
The best way to deal with it is to regulate the exchanges through a non-governmental council, which would put circuit breakers in their books. This could be done through code as well.

The "fact" you are talking about is a factoid, created by a priest from the hodl cult, who dont want to see bitcoin being adopted by the people, but only used for speculation, and only for their whale peers. You can just put me on ignore, like I did with them.
63  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: seems like bitcoin is too slow to progress on: June 16, 2020, 01:35:34 PM
Ethereum was far ahead with smart contracts and Dapps in the past.Now,ETH is far ahead with defi and yet it's still not the number 1 cryptocurrency in the world.There's might be something wrong with ethereum. Grin


Its not slow and have plenty of development. And this is wrong for the hodl cult. You dont proper hodl if you can move the coins around.

None of the cryptocurrencies are really decentralized, even bitcoin. If you have 1% of the users holding 99% of the supply, then its not decentralized. And if you have whales manipulating the market, to accumulate even more, then you have increased centralization of supply. You can say the tech is decentralized, but if the supply is not, people will not use the tech.

The exchanges are to blame for it, as they allow the centralization of supply. A exchange with only 5btc in the last 24 hours dont have any issue when 100btc enter in just one account and burn the entire book. Its good for them, as they will get more money from fees, but this hurts the project, as a lot of people will have their money stolen, and many of them will not come back to bitcoin after the crash.
64  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: seems like bitcoin is too slow to progress on: June 15, 2020, 11:12:24 PM
I noticed this some weeks ago, OP, and started to accumulate ethereum since then.

I remember back in 2017 the BCH guys had made a meme about LN, where they said "come back in 18 months". So, much more than 18 months have passed, and LN is still not available to the public, being a geek thing. Not only that, you need to fund a channel to be able to use it, in the same way it happens with ripple, and you need to trust the other part which will link with your channel, thus undermining the trustless idea behind cryptocurrencies. If I have to pay to use it, and I have to trust it, so how is this different from any ordinary bank?

The complications to use it means it is not being used at all, only by the geeks and enthusiasts, who understand how the code work. Bitcoin network is very slow right now, with transactions taking up to three hours, even after paying the maximum fee. This week I had to use replace-by-fee three times, in a transaction which was already paying the maximum fee. It took more than two hours for the btc to arrive at the exchange. If LN was really being used, it would not be that slow.
65  Economy / Speculation / Re: Bitcoins can hit either $8k or bounce back to $10k - volatile times are back? on: June 15, 2020, 08:22:33 PM
If it breaks $8900, I think it will pierce straight to $7k, maybe $7400-7600 area.
66  Economy / Speculation / Re: TA indicates a sharp drop soon on: June 15, 2020, 12:28:07 PM
Bitcoin is going to 5k, but it will be a slow descent, not a sharp, fast drop.
So you will have time to sell some.

$500-$700 at end of 2020.
$12k-$15k at end of 2021.
$5k-$6k at end of 2025.
$0.85 march 2028.

Sorry, this is the truth. Bitcoin failed its purpose.

When will happen drop to $500? As usual your posts are completely pointless speculation without any basis, and no one should take them seriously. If you want to play Nostradamus I have advice for you, predict things at least 50-100 years in advance - so you won't have to be ashamed personally when they don't happen. Something has definitely failed in your case, but rest assured it’s not Bitcoin.


So pointless that you take the time to answer it.
This is the speculation forum. You either deal with it, or you ignore it.

All my predictions are based on market sentiment and general look over TA. Right now bitcoin is pointing to 5k. At the time of the outbreak, it was pointing to three digits. In fact, it would have reached zero if it wasnt for a hardware malfunction at Bitmex.



atleast we can still prepare for it  . prepare means convert now or spend now as long as btc  is still valueable and prepare some cash to for the future drop that will happen so that we can buy back again .


I would not go all-in into fiat. The bear market is still there, but it is old. A old market can die easily.
I prefer to sell 5% and stack the fiat into rebuying. This minimize any losses in case it recovers.

Also there is a untested support around 7k.
67  Economy / Speculation / Re: TA indicates a sharp drop soon on: June 15, 2020, 10:38:51 AM
Bitcoin is going to 5k, but it will be a slow descent, not a sharp, fast drop.
So you will have time to sell some.
68  Economy / Speculation / Re: BTC next Movement......... on: June 13, 2020, 10:40:43 PM
The trend is bearish, because now we have something called Bitmex, determining how the market moves.


No platform or analysis out there that can give out precise predictions towards bitcoin movement.It all matters with demand and some mix of fomo and fud, this is why its always been an unpredictable stuff.

We have seen the waves for this week, it might not really big in numbers of changes but we are tanking or hovering around between 9k and 10k price. Next move?

Neither of the two because price might able to break resistance and supports on next hour,day or into the next.



I've never seem derivatives causing a bullish movement.
If I see Bitmex pumping the price some day, I will not have any problem in saying I was wrong.
But until then, the sole purpose of derivatives and "legitimation" is to destroy the project.
69  Economy / Speculation / Re: BTC next Movement......... on: June 13, 2020, 07:27:11 PM
The trend is bearish, because now we have something called Bitmex, determining how the market moves.
70  Economy / Economics / Re: US economy wouldn't be shut down again despite the rising case count on: June 12, 2020, 06:39:12 PM
Coronavirus is a hoax.
Stop falling for commie lies.
71  Economy / Speculation / Re: Continue to Hold your bitcoin on: June 11, 2020, 08:37:25 PM
I have been holding for five years. Three and a half of those years were bear markets.

Previous cycle didnt have this long hybernation. If there is not a bullrun, selling is what it will be.

72  Economy / Economics / Re: Why I am quitting ICO's on: June 10, 2020, 03:12:33 PM
The problem with ICOs (and similar products) is something which plagues the internet in general: the hype trains.
From my experience, I can gather hype trains are usually bad, and deliver well below the expectations from the general public.
And the recent "zoomer" generation feed hype trains more than ever, thanks for their smartphones and connected networks, which works in concert towards taking the most possible profit from sponsors.

I've saw it happening with games. A certain game, which name I will not mention, have some mod projects which are being hyped for five, six years already, and never deliver any content. Instead, they make hype videos, in YouTube and Twitch, and get money from ads. Since there are thousands of players in their streams, they make tons of money, and thus keep postponing their "projects" to the future. It is much more profitable to let the hordes of idiots hypnotized by a future project, than to deliver the project.

The same happens with ICOs. The difference is that the ICOs appeals to a more mature audience (which happens to have money to afford it), but the principle is the same. And since is a mature audience, you use buzzwords to make it sounds "modern", so that they dont feel being left behind by technology. If you look at it objectively, most ICOs are promising the same things the main cryptocurrencies already do.

You dont make money from the project, but from selling the idea of a project. The project dont even need to exist, you can only make the part you are going to show and then lie to the public about its development. There will be nobody to check it, and since the public is enthralled by the hype, nobody will dare to question it, for fear of reprisals.
73  Economy / Speculation / Re: 2 Charts, bulls and bears both correct? on: June 08, 2020, 09:43:53 AM
The bullish chart seems more on point. There is a breach in the triangle structure. It might have happen because the bear market is old, so it is losing strength.
74  Economy / Speculation / Re: Bulls are no longer fresh and will run out of gas on: June 07, 2020, 07:10:32 AM
Moon launch means $20k will be reached by January or February.
This will not happen if bitcoin fall again back to 5-6k.

It needs to go up and breaks $12k in the next two months, then consolidate the 12-20k range in the second half of the year.
Else the bear market will be permanent.

Mike Novogratz said he will be capitulating by the end of the year if bitcoin wont go up. I dont think he is alone in it. A massive capitulation of institutional funds can bring the price to three digits easily.

I am not sure if the price can break $12k in the next two months, but it could be possible as we know that the price can go anywhere. We need to break $10k first, and then $11k, so then the price will have a chance to increase more and then it will break $12k. But $20k will be difficult to reach in a short time, and maybe that price will come in the last Q4. But if the bitcoin fall again to $5k-$6k, then we will need longer to break the $10k because the price will hard to increase high.


If memory serves, in December 2017 the price increased by $2k in just two days.
I only wish we could have a more organic, gradual rising, not these sudden rises which can prompt crashes.
Especially when the exchanges allow trade bots.
75  Economy / Speculation / Re: Bitcoin Surge - What is happening? on: June 07, 2020, 07:04:43 AM
The analysis below seems reasonable, and puts the 4-year cycle theory back into perspective:


76  Economy / Speculation / Re: Bulls are no longer fresh and will run out of gas on: June 07, 2020, 06:00:55 AM
Moon launch means $20k will be reached by January or February.
This will not happen if bitcoin fall again back to 5-6k.

It needs to go up and breaks $12k in the next two months, then consolidate the 12-20k range in the second half of the year.
Else the bear market will be permanent.

Mike Novogratz said he will be capitulating by the end of the year if bitcoin wont go up. I dont think he is alone in it. A massive capitulation of institutional funds can bring the price to three digits easily.
77  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Why people are afraid on investing to bitcoin? on: June 06, 2020, 04:46:45 PM
Because it is a manipulated market. The value of bitcoin is decided by a highly centralized cabal of whales. The exchanges follow some sort of algorithm, where their prices go up and down all at the same time, with small variations between them, thus rendering it a controlled market. They allow bots and they dont have any circuit breaker, which could protect people's investments in it.

Also, bitcoin network is very slow, taking up to one hour for a transfer, even with the highest fee. Because of the slow network, many people prefer to let their money in the exchanges, as shortings are very fast, due to them being concerted between the whales, and enhanced by bots. Bitcoin can fall 60% overnight, and take weeks or even months to recover the value lost. For example, it have fallen from $6k to $3k very fast in 2018, but took three months to go back to $6k. This let people very uneasy about it, as a store of value is meant to cover expenses in case of emergencies, and emergencies can happen any time. Add to this the fact many exchanges are "hacked" from time to time, and you have the recipe for adoption failure.

For this reason, bitcoin have failed not only as a daily currency (since a merchant will not risk accepting something whose value can fall 60% overnight), but also as a store of value (there is no reason to send it to a personal wallet, since price can fall 60-80% any minute, and take months to recover).
78  Economy / Speculation / Re: Reasons Bitcoin’s Price Plummeted 14% in 15 Minutes to $8,600? on: June 05, 2020, 04:07:27 AM
Short futures and basically all futures and leverage trading, all kinds of things that is not "buy bitcoin, sell bitcoin" is just hurting the market. I do not understand how people can't see it. Having the "freedom" to do whatever you want is not freedom, if you have the freedom of killing someone, that doesn't mean the person you just murdered isn't dead, so when you have freedom to do something, and you take it, you have to realize there is consequences.

I get it, when you do something bad and there is horrible consequences but those consequences are not for you, it is for other people, you do not care. You just do something bad, gain something awesome, and others are in misery because of it, you go scott free without any problems. But that is not morality, that is not ethics, that is not good for the market in the long run.


I said that many times already, but some people in this forum just dont understand. They are jeopardizing not only bitcoin's future, but the future of all cryptocurrencies, when they preach freedom without consequences. I even got negative trust points for pointing out how harmful derivatives can be to the future of cryptocurrencies.

Thats why I'm applying a inverted DCA strategy, selling a bit of my stash every month, because I believe bitcoin's future is compromised by these degenerates, who think paper speculation will "legitimize" it.
79  Economy / Speculation / Re: Bloomberg: “Bitcoin will approach record high of about $20,000 this year” on: June 05, 2020, 03:31:18 AM
Bloomberg making a $20k prediction?

$5k confirmed. Time to sell.
80  Economy / Speculation / Re: Reasons Bitcoin’s Price Plummeted 14% in 15 Minutes to $8,600? on: June 03, 2020, 03:21:17 PM
I cant take cointelegraph seriously anymore, as they are considering Bitmex as a valid exchange.

Do people have a short memory? The price would have gone to zero two months ago if it wasnt for a "hardware failure" at Bitmex.
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