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181  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: A challenge from bitcoin in 2018 on: September 11, 2018, 02:34:37 AM
This year the price of bitcoin has dropped for a long time
don't know how long bitcoin will be like this.

well the drop stopped about 1.5 months ago so you already know how long it was like that!

what you can't know is whether the drops would start again and if price goes any lower. and that is where speculation comes in. my guess is that there is no reason for price to drop anymore and even if it does, it won't go any lower than previous low we had in June.

Yups drops is over since we are in the stable market now,so if theres some fall happen it will be lower than what we have for the first 7 months of this 2018

What i am concern is the growth,are we really waiting for the bull?Or this is not happening again just like what we have year ago.this is the best question that should be addressed so many will stop being paranoid looking for nothing
182  Economy / Speculation / Re: Bitcoin Remains Above $7,200 For 3 Days; Where is the Market Headed? on: September 10, 2018, 09:25:28 AM
MAYbe the market price now are enough to answer your questions mate

At first i almost believe that this is the long wait since the last quarter is coming,but after just a week now the price drops again and a big falls of more than $1,000 value.to give points to your concern well this is the sad truth that market now are in bad shape so we should not expect anything but to accept what the market value is
183  Economy / Speculation / Re: when will you learn price is not related to news on: September 10, 2018, 09:15:42 AM
A lot of people asking what happened after a steep move of btc price. Just like there must be a bad news for down and good news for up. There is no rule like this and probably a lot of people will not really understand. There are few thing affects btc price but news are less affective on price, dont like to give numbers but it is more %5 of btc price is related with developing news, infact there was no real relation but some people think there is a relation so it causes an affect on price. Likely a lot big drops happened without a proper reason. But still people was wandering around any news which may cause to this. Big company accept btc so it should rise? they dont microsoft accepted btc affected only %0.5 bump on price just long 10 hours and price continued to drop that days, some people says mtgox crysis is the cause of 2013 rise and fall i find it funny. There are a lot of price moves on btc and you cant find matching news with them. If you wonder what is real cause of that steep drop i can say it is manipulation, not even free market can react that fast it is manipulators. But it is another topics's subject.
Just know bitcoin price is almost not related with any news. Kiss

I personally think that what we must learn is to stay focus and never get affected with this fake news ,things that is really making all of us crazy when almost truth releases by the press that in the end will comes out as fake and not reliable,that this are a paid news to bring the market rattles .hoping with this we shoul$realize that even how bad the news is,bitcoin will always be bitcoin and crypto will remain for the future
184  Economy / Speculation / Re: What is our assurance that Bitcoin will stay for long or forever? on: September 10, 2018, 09:05:25 AM
What is our assurance that Bitcoin will stay for long or forever?  There is a prophesy I have heard that Bitcoin will fall.
Can you share some strong reasons of why Bitcoin will last?

There will never be assurance that bitcoin will stay if the peple that remains here has an attitude like you

Bitcoin is a currency and this must be treated as is,but the way you deliver thoughts it brings out about the only profit and income is your motive of being here.

We need people that trust crypto specially bitcoin and not people that stay here to earn and if not will cry and ask for just becauseof his foolishness
185  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Speculation (Altcoins) / Re: Will ETH can reach 1500 in this year?? on: September 10, 2018, 07:56:25 AM
ETH is still undervalues, i think it will reach at least 1500$ in december 2018. Anyone agree with me?

Better change the title of the thread and put a word AGAIN because ethereum had reached $1,500 value from the beginning of this 2018 if you don’t come to know that,maybe you can check coin market cap for some details

I am not sure if Ethereum will reach the price value of $ 1500 this year.
Since the beginning of this year, Ethereum has experienced a lot of price reductions.
I am not sure if Ethereum will rise quickly.
Ethereum definitely needs a lot of time to increase the price.

Seeing another fool here ,people that only putting comments to spam and make their required post from the scam ico they’re signature came from..read my upper post saying Ethereum reached $1,500 from the start of January this year.

Next time would you please try to be accurate before posting because it really makes people feel shit when you does being ignorant
186  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Speculation (Altcoins) / Re: Salary in BTC from the Israeli company Spot.IM on: September 10, 2018, 07:38:57 AM
Any update if this becomes reality now?I have been seeking for many proof about companionship being use bitcoin or other altcoins to pay their employees because from this actions we can distinguish how far cryptocurrency goes till now and i know many of us are waiting for this breakthrough

I am more than confident that not all employees of the company are satisfied with this innovation. Crypto currency is unstable and their salary will not be stable either.
It's for sure.

There's a company on Japan as well that loved this adoption but the current situation of these countries are different from each other. Japanese loves more to get involved with cryptocurrencies but I don't know with the Israeli people, they probably are still in the process.

Let us not mentioned japan for thise kind of issues as we know that the whole japan accepted and uses bitcoin as real currency so there no impossible if they use this as payments for whole system
187  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Speculation (Altcoins) / Re: Over 90% of ICOs are a scam on: September 10, 2018, 07:28:35 AM
The founder of ETHEREUM said that over 90% of ICOs are scams. By participating in an ICO, you give your money to a project that probably will never happen. Every day a new ICO comes out ... but what surprises me is that many people invest their savings in these very high risk projects. I think it is much better to invest in real projects already listed on the stock exchange .... of which you know everything well ... For example, BANKERA looks like an ICO scam .....

Well this is the sad reality of cryptocurrency now,the image of this once. Great opportunity turns a disaster when this f@cking scammer enters the community with only one vision and that is to victimized and take advantage of the poor investors that the only mistakes in life is trusting these scammers,from the starts i am looking for the solutions towards this problem to bring back the beauty and truthfulness of crypto community
188  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Do you reccomend family and friends to join the market when it's crashing? on: September 09, 2018, 11:34:50 AM
Do you recommend family and friends to join the market when it's crashing?
We pray for the prices to go up and to more people join the market, but will you recommend someone close to you to join when the prices are dropping like crazy?

If you do, explain why.

If i were to choose ofcourse i want them to join when the prices dropping.

Imagine how lot would they gain when the price recovers,but the problem is how to convince them since i have bo example to let the see bcause market are all red

But even if I cannot convince them,i will invest another volume for holding just like what i did yesterday
189  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: When did people start caring what Goldman Sachs has to say about Bitcoin!? on: September 09, 2018, 09:09:07 AM
Take this quote from an article:
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"Apparently, the cause of this dump was Goldman Sach’s announcement that it is scraping off its crypto trading desk for now."

Source: https://cryptodaily.co.uk/2018/09/bitcoin-btc-falls-back-to-trend-line-but-will-it-fall-further/

When did people start caring what cartels have to say about bitcoin. have people forgotten what cryptocurrencies were suppose to do? have people really starting looking up to the same people that destroyed the global economy in 2008? This is just insane to me. It would be like Airbnb looking for approval from Hotel chains, or Uber looking for approval from taxi companies.

Seriously, people wake up. Bitcoin never did any of these peoples permission. If you are really looking for the same cartels that have been destroying lives for decades to come and "regulate" bitcoin, then you have fully misunderstood what power you have been given.

My question is why we should take it seriously when people here nowadays are not noob and illiterate about matters,cryptonians now are mature enough to learn that speculation is different from realizations and that is what we must accept

Goldman is just like any other people here that want popularization for hes own interest but concerns nothing but himself
190  Economy / Economics / Re: how to help people who have problem economic on: September 09, 2018, 08:59:55 AM
hello member of the bitcoin forum, Smiley
I'm confused and looking for answers about how to help people who are having economic problems,

are there any of us in this forum who have a good heart to help the economy of fellow human beings,

can opening new jobs reduce unemployment and improve the economy?

If people will only open their mind and heart about cryptocurrency profit offering we might find that this community can help us find enough knowledge on how to gain and have decent income

THE Only poblem here is why most of the people that enters here don’t give enough attention and focus to get what the crypto community can give,so i guess this is the right time on how we must open our eyes and mind to take this seriously
191  Economy / Economics / Re: Why everyone only invest in the crypto market? on: September 09, 2018, 08:45:07 AM
Well this is what they saw the future,and i think this is more reasonable investments than all those offered via internet and even in real world like stock exchange or real estate.to be precise this is my first investment seriously because i aware about scamming and other form of taking advantages.

Most of the investors know that this is the right time to invest in order to maximize profit as time goes on.

Not just right time but right option too,qnd maximizing profit is indeed in cryptocurrency while this is the best profit provider this years of ours.

Cryptocurrency market is seen as a greater means and medium where people can stimulate billions of money as hence do a lot of investment there.  So sad to see the market these days.

But this is seen as a highest risk of profiteering also,so before entering this market you must be aware of the risk and the opportunity from gaining to losing thats why we better watch out.
192  Economy / Economics / Re: Is it practical to expect tenfold jump in Bitcoin this year ? on: September 09, 2018, 04:13:49 AM
Is it practical to expect tenfold  jump in Bitcoin this year ? It has happened in past but is it practical to expect it this year also ?
Lol this is not practical but exaggerated ,imagine from $6,200 will jump to 10folds?I am not crazy to take this seriously.expectation is normal but let us be realist on every issues we will be involving coz if not for sure failure is what will awaits you mate.and besides this is not happening this year or even next year because this is the normal value and pumping is just a dirty works
193  Economy / Economics / Re: Bitcoin after several years? on: September 09, 2018, 03:59:28 AM
what do you think will happen on bitcoin after several years?
i expect that bitcoin will a more bigger continuities and maybe that we can use bitcoin currency in public like buying in a supermarket cause we alk know that technology in our world was growing in every second that's only what I'm thinking
what about your thoughts?


Well maybe i am the one who will look like hypocrite here but i am not expecting anything from bitcoin now,because i have been an expectant of the bitcoin value for year but this only brings me failure so from then I changed my outview that instead of expecting i am more on realistic now what the market gives is what i will accept and this helps me to grow and become more practical..though i believe that the technology oc cryptocurrency is the future of the nex generations
194  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: Strategy for buy and hold on: September 08, 2018, 11:14:41 AM
Sometimes, i just smile when i see bounty hunters dump their coins. I have seen situations where after they might have dumped their coins, within within 24-48 hours, it begins to rise again.
Whenever a coin lists and bounty hunters are paid, it is always an opportunity for investors to buy from them cheaply.
Most times, i wait for opportunities like this, despite being a bounty hunter too. I acquire more and hold. Then i sell high later.
There are times bounty hunters a lured by investors into selling cheaply on DEX, before any official listing.

Although, this might not be applicable to all coins, but it happens to most.

Because bounty campaigns are scammers,nowadays we its hard to find legitimate project because most of them are scammers or if some pays their participants it has almost have no value because the investors  dumped theirs instantly and the hunters leaves no option but to sell their tokens before they die and become no value at all
195  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Speculation (Altcoins) / Re: What happens to market ? on: September 08, 2018, 10:20:52 AM
Market is getting down not only #Bitcoin but also Ethereum, Dashcoin and others. What is your idea about market?

How long time will this take to survive ?
what would you do if i told you tht this will last forever?So stop asking because no one really knows what will be the future prices and what is the future of market,this will end tomorrow or might continue till end of year

The crypto money market went way too much red tape this year. The market was constantly rising last year.

The price of many coins has always risen. As the market grew, the risks grew. As the tokens multiplied, it was difficult to make money.

In the crypto money world it is necessary to make the right move at the right time.
what?Do you understand what you mean here?Because I don’t lol.next time that you want to help,make sure that you really know what you are saying .

I think your estimate is wrong today. Precisely in the beginning of September the coin market began to improve, including Bitcoin at this time. If you look closely at Coinmarketcap, the price of Bitcoin continues to rise every day. This is a good sign for us to continue to survive in Crypto, especially surviving in Bitcoin.

Do you have your own market capitalization?Because yours are different from what is in the CMC now,bitcoin falls $1,000 three days ago and until now bitcoin is in red marks
196  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: How do you research altcoins? on: September 08, 2018, 06:23:23 AM
How do you research altcoins to invest in? I'm talking about legit/long term investing in projects that have real potential to become something that creates value.

How do you find the coins you're looking for?

What are your go to tools?

Before i do everything regarding investing to altcoins i am make sure that i checked all the details about these topics because this is very important for not to become a scam victims

Here are they.. how to potect yourself from scammers

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=3415026.0

Here is how to know if the website is Scams

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=4456502.0

Here are some mistakes you must prevent from investing in ico

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=4475764.0

Hope that could help you out from bad elements here
197  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Speculation (Altcoins) / Re: bitcoin down, altcoin rise. why? on: September 08, 2018, 06:12:20 AM
I do not understand what happened to some altcoins, I know that when correction, red altcoin dominates the crypto market.

but when the bitcoin correction, there is still altcoin that has increased and rises significantly.
 
what factors make altcoin rise when bitcoin falls?
share your knowledge with me!
Now the trend has changed because of ETF issue people withdraw their investments in alternative coins and transfers to bitcoin thats why bitcoin capitalization grows upto almost 55% today,and after the decline from ETF still this holds the investment,so what about your question is a opposite of what you have asked so always be aware of the market trend,because this may change in a glimpse
198  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Do you still believe in predictions of "experts" about the bitcoin price? on: September 08, 2018, 05:24:52 AM
I believe that we should never trust 100% in any prediction about it, even if that person is presented as the greatest expert or master on the subject, because we must always keep in mind that at the beginning of 2017, when the price of bitcoin was just in $1,000, none of those alleged "gurus" was able to predict that the price of bitcoin would reach $20k some months later. And besides, neither was able to predict the tremendous collapse that the market would suffer next.

If those relevant historical events went completely unnoticed by the "experts", I think none of them has real bases to present themselves these days announcing that bitcoin will reach this or that price by the end of the year.

Prediction is a damn misleading so if you wanna lose then trust those people ,but if you love you funds then make your own research and analyzation because thats is your money and if theres someone we must trust,thats our own prediction not from others that has no concern with the money of us so stop listening to them and do you own homeworks
199  Economy / Speculation / Re: Do you suppose $8200 may be a sign for the bull run? on: September 07, 2018, 11:46:10 PM
The rising prices of bitcoin from falling is what we all are waiting especially to any or all WHO did a purchased from $20k. does one suppose the present very little steps of bitcoin may be a Battle of Bull Run sign?
I have a doubt that it's not nonetheless the Battle of Bull Run, will|this will|this could|this may} not bring US assurance, not till bitcoin can manage to achieve at least $12k. What are you able to say regarding this?

Share your views about this.

I have no views but advice,and that is stop looking back on what we have last 2017 when the December bubble got reality and gives us $20,000 worth of value,for me we should stick on the normal value and this is what we are having right now,be contented as the price for me is reasonable and perfect for investing

It is very difficult to predict what will happen to bitcoin price, and If Bitcoin price jumps over 8200$ range it will be very good sign for all investors, but I am not sure if would it be the beginning of the bull run. Because in the middle of July we was reached this price and nothing happened, the price has fallen down again.

Bull will never come again like what you’ve got on 2017 and thats for sure so stop dreaming guys,be practical and realistic
200  Economy / Speculation / Re: Is Bitcoin Dead? on: September 07, 2018, 10:57:59 PM
why You have to ask this: "Is Bitcoin Dead?". see that the price rose from $ 900 to $ 20,000, if the price had such a high increase that everyone celebrated a lot, then would not it be more natural the price fall a lot? why the hell do not many people think that it is possible and natural the price fall a lot? this is a very volatile market and this is expected to happen. Bitcoin is not dead because there are many people who use it and the fact that the price falls a lot is something normal.

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there is still plenty of money to enter the crypto world


Actually this is the problem with most of the people here in crypto,after gaining from the bubble season of 2017 now blaming the good coin about their losses though they know that what brings them to failure is the attitude of being greedy,they don’t become contented when the price reached out $20,000 instead they want more growth continuously and now that the value drops drastically they cry for death as if bitcoin never been their bread and butter for long
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