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9161  Economy / Trading Discussion / Re: How do I grow my btc? on: January 24, 2017, 04:00:26 AM
trading now is a good option Buy altcoins and then hold it
trading is really much more good option to grow up your bitcoin because i see that trading has too much lowest risk and i get a big profit from trading i think trading of bitcoin is much more stronger and profitable than Altcoins trading.

It will always be one of the most legitimate growing of bitcoins. And if you are that type of trader who are going to hold thousands of alt coins but with potentials because there are plenty of alt coins that are just coming out that has nothing to do with bitcoins adoption and just want to get some profit for creating that project and after wards they are going to be gone.
9162  Economy / Economics / Re: Tell me your predictions about Bitcoin on: January 24, 2017, 03:37:55 AM
everyone predicts that bitcoin will be something that is popular in the future, and I also believe that it would actually happen. see developments taking place today against bitcoin, making everyone thinking the same thing. even bitcoin might be something that most in the search on the internet.

I do believe that it is going to be popular in the future because we can already see it's popularity nowadays and it's impacting the whole bitcoin demand. And as many people are getting into bitcoin today and in the future that is going to make bitcoin one of the most used crypto currency and its market cap will keep on increasing.
9163  Economy / Economics / Re: Best way for steady income on: January 24, 2017, 03:09:33 AM
Yes faucets are just a waste of time but if you really can't stay away with faucet and you believe with it then try to build up your own faucet site. And also joining a cloud mining site is like you are just giving out your bitcoins freely. Don't ever believe with those cloud mining sites because they are not really mining, they are ponzi which are scams.
But, faucets is a good step for those beginners who are trying to start their journey in bitcoin . Indeed, faucet gives you small amount of satoshi's for every claim at least those peoples knows how to earn bitcoin from different way, but after certain period they will know faucet is not good for long-term.

We can't stop people to say that faucets are just a total waste of time. But I admit that I'm happy to know bitcoin and faucets are the first step of my earning days with bitcoin. And I really get bored as the day goes by because the amount that I'm able to get is really small that's why I tried to find out some other ways of earning like trading.
That's the fact of most of us here, we start with faucet until we upgrade our way of earnings. Faucets are everywhere and it's a lessons learn not to spend much time when there's plenty of opportunity you can explore in the bitcoin world. It can give you steady income but only small income.

I would choose to have a risky investment than having a steady income that does not satisfy me.

What you have said is something fishy to me, you are going to take "risky" investment. But all of investments are really risky but if you are thinking that you are going to take those phenomenal risky investments which are hyip's and cloud mining, I assume that is what you are talking about risky investment. If that is so, I will prefer to have steady low income rather than investing with them.

Fishy investment or whatever the term you may call it, is actually no investment but a loss.  If you thing you can earn from Hyip, matrix, MLM and things like that then you are actually gonna waste your money by investing there. There is no shortcut in life so  there is also no shortcut in Bitcoin earnings too.  Always earn from legit programs though the earning may be slow.

Yes those type of investments are just going to be a waste of money and there is really no shortcut in life. People who are going to invest with wrong type of investments will just end up into a bad result. But from those mistakes we are able to make it right and that is going to give us correct way of investing to have steady income like trading.
I agree with you and I have not invested n these type of investment from the beginning in the start one of my friend suggested to invest in a mlm but due to hard work in there I stayed away from there and then one day from my friend I heard that it was a scam and he lost there.
All business they are experience this in the firs time to lose and learn . they are doing experiment and test and failed until you can be success.. it is depends in your way and learning that you can use your experience in the future so that you can reduce your chance of loses.. if you start again and fix some and make more bright ideas.. until you reach your success..

Good to know that there are people who haven't investment with these fishy investments and actually I did but I learned from it that's why I don't consider them anymore as a good way to have steady income. And that's why I used my experience from that mistake to make my next years to have more valuable time to have some steady income with trading and other legit investments.
9164  Economy / Economics / Re: Best way for steady income on: January 23, 2017, 01:30:11 PM
Yes faucets are just a waste of time but if you really can't stay away with faucet and you believe with it then try to build up your own faucet site. And also joining a cloud mining site is like you are just giving out your bitcoins freely. Don't ever believe with those cloud mining sites because they are not really mining, they are ponzi which are scams.
But, faucets is a good step for those beginners who are trying to start their journey in bitcoin . Indeed, faucet gives you small amount of satoshi's for every claim at least those peoples knows how to earn bitcoin from different way, but after certain period they will know faucet is not good for long-term.

We can't stop people to say that faucets are just a total waste of time. But I admit that I'm happy to know bitcoin and faucets are the first step of my earning days with bitcoin. And I really get bored as the day goes by because the amount that I'm able to get is really small that's why I tried to find out some other ways of earning like trading.
That's the fact of most of us here, we start with faucet until we upgrade our way of earnings. Faucets are everywhere and it's a lessons learn not to spend much time when there's plenty of opportunity you can explore in the bitcoin world. It can give you steady income but only small income.

I would choose to have a risky investment than having a steady income that does not satisfy me.

What you have said is something fishy to me, you are going to take "risky" investment. But all of investments are really risky but if you are thinking that you are going to take those phenomenal risky investments which are hyip's and cloud mining, I assume that is what you are talking about risky investment. If that is so, I will prefer to have steady low income rather than investing with them.

Fishy investment or whatever the term you may call it, is actually no investment but a loss.  If you thing you can earn from Hyip, matrix, MLM and things like that then you are actually gonna waste your money by investing there. There is no shortcut in life so  there is also no shortcut in Bitcoin earnings too.  Always earn from legit programs though the earning may be slow.

Yes those type of investments are just going to be a waste of money and there is really no shortcut in life. People who are going to invest with wrong type of investments will just end up into a bad result. But from those mistakes we are able to make it right and that is going to give us correct way of investing to have steady income like trading.
9165  Economy / Economics / Re: Is it better to save money or invest it? on: January 23, 2017, 10:13:23 AM
Is it better to save money in bank or invest it online, in real estate or maybe gold?

Yes it is better to save money nowadays but not in bank instead we must save money through bitcoin. Because as I can see if we are going to save bitcoin/satoshi our money had a chance to increase everyday because of the fluctuation happening in the price.

Saving in bank will just give small profit unlike if you are going to save in bitcoins then guaranteed profits will be assured in the end. Also saving gold is a good type of investment just don't let your money sleep in the banks. They are the ones that are going to have to make profit like you are lending your money for them with small interest.
9166  Economy / Speculation / Re: Sell or wait? on: January 23, 2017, 09:46:16 AM
Better i will suggest you in different way because first you should be in safe in hands with investment you made in bitcoin, better try to get it fastly with price then hold rest of the investment and sell them at more higher price so in this way you can repeat every time.

Selling it on higher price is going to long with my expectation. As the price did reached $1k as 2017 is entering I think that coming back to it is going to be hard although the price now is good at $900. That's why it is better to wait first if you want to be satisfied by waiting the price to reach again back to $1,000. So just be patient.
9167  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Everyone looses in the long run on: January 23, 2017, 09:02:06 AM
Would be very difficult to win some profits by gambling, if you can gamble for fun and know when to stop, you will not suffer huge losses.

It is really one of the hardest way to make money if you are going to treat gambling as source of your income. And it is already fated that a gambler will just lose in the end. So instead of thinking and aiming that you are going to win some amount, its better that you are just going to enjoy every single satoshi's that you are going to bet and just have fun.
9168  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: do you use analysis when play gambling? on: January 23, 2017, 08:19:18 AM
Just want know how much the gamblers who use analysis when play gambling and what kinds of gambling game? And do you think it is needed or not making analysis on gambling game or it is depend on lucky. Thanks for share your opinions and experience.


I do so much analysis when I do play poker or any card games but when it comes to dice,roulette or wheel of course i do not want to take time analysing each round.

Yeah poker is one gambling game where extra analysis will pay off in the long run, of course assuming you are a good player with fantastic bankroll management.

That's why poker is not a total game of luck and it is always been a paid off in the end if you are going to use analysis for it. I've always been doing analysis with poker games. Also I've been using it with sports betting and I can say that it is giving me more advantage upon doing analysis every time I'm going to gamble.
9169  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: To Gamble or To Invest? on: January 22, 2017, 03:03:56 PM
I have experienced a great deal of loss gambling my funds in Yobit just yesterday and I think twice after that. What if I just invested it. Problem is we just tend to realize it when everything is lost. So, it would be better to start off with investment and if you are really the gambler type just use the profits that you have made from that investment. This could also be the start of minimizing the gambling addiction.
I do not even know whether yobit is a probably fair site to gamble in the first place they are neither an exchange nor a gambling site and you are really bold enough to wage your bets in their not so transparent dice game is simply gutsy. If you have a problem with gambling find a good gambling site in the first place  Cheesy what ever may be investment is the best way to go if you are not an addict .

I really don't trust yobit since their support is already been proven to be one of the poorest and their dice games and yopony are not really provably fair. It is a true exchange that doesn't really care for its customer when you got problems, so I don't advice for you guys to do gambling or investing with it. Better to look for some more good exchange and gambling site out there, if you want to dice just visit bitdice.
Thank you for your information, indeed gambling in yobit be hard to win, I think it just happened to me, based on my experiences last month I lost 0.75 btc in just 2 hours. It might be worthwhile to look for a more fair gambling sites.

Don't mention it buddy, its not even new that yobit has always the advantage with its services. And if you are going to trade with them, a lot of useless coins are there and being introduced, it is indicating that its owner just want to make money from those coins. Plus the gambling games that it built, house edge is always been bigger than the usual. Too bad that you lost that amount for a short amount of time.
9170  Economy / Marketplace / Re: What kind of service/business would you create if you had funding and.... on: January 22, 2017, 01:56:51 PM
I'll implement an online store that helps to sell most of the day to day needs, especially handmade and traditional crafts. It needs high investment to initiate this business. When I make the required amount will make agreement with few other similar business groups and start my work along with bitcoin as one of the payment option.

We have same concept of business about online store. But i want to sell all types of items that can be seen on a typical shopping mall. I think this will going to hit because only few online stores offering this service and they are only selling limited items.

It's going to be hard to build a typical shopping mall online. But if you are going to check out coinmall.io maybe you can have some idea with what you are planning. But I would love to fund this type of business if that is going to be pioneer in your country. As there are a lot of e-commerce sites that are already successful, I believe that it is going to be successful also with bitcoin.

An existing online store that had been around for years and being used by people can easily eat your market if they start to implement bitcoin on their website. I'm not sure if its a good idea. Like they said, BTC will soon be used by people. Its still a good try if you get into it with different target clients, let say you want to sell heavy equipment or maybe aquarium fishes or anything except those fashion dresses and computer accessories because there are lots of them already.

It may be bad if those big online stores that are already in the market for a lot of years and trusted by so many people. But as long as it is still early and they are not adopting it yet. The advantage will be with him but of course it is still going to depend on how the market and demand of the people with the products that he wants to include with it.
9171  Economy / Economics / Re: You should never trust banks on: January 22, 2017, 01:30:59 PM
Banks are the most trustable one because they will give security for you money.But banks will charge only high amount transaction fee but when compared to other sectors of investment banks will provide little profits on your investment but it will pay on time.

I don't know why there are people that says that you can't trust banks as if that they are using bank services. Let's admit it that we need banking services and you really can trust your money with them as long as they are not the newly operating banks. It's our duty to choose those banks that are more stable enough to keep our money.

Just based upon the transaction fee its not right to say that banks are not good. In my view without banks and banking system we could have never experienced such a big growth in technology as well I see banks were similar to bitcoin wallet in terms of security.

Yes, we should be thankful to banking system and I will still trust them no matter what. Because it is one of the financial industry that is governed and covered by the law. And there are a lot of advantage if I will going to use banking services with its rebate and other benefits that I can get for being a loyal customer of them. But still it depends if there are people who are really sicked with banks.
9172  Economy / Economics / Re: Best way for steady income on: January 22, 2017, 12:41:56 PM
Yes faucets are just a waste of time but if you really can't stay away with faucet and you believe with it then try to build up your own faucet site. And also joining a cloud mining site is like you are just giving out your bitcoins freely. Don't ever believe with those cloud mining sites because they are not really mining, they are ponzi which are scams.
But, faucets is a good step for those beginners who are trying to start their journey in bitcoin . Indeed, faucet gives you small amount of satoshi's for every claim at least those peoples knows how to earn bitcoin from different way, but after certain period they will know faucet is not good for long-term.

We can't stop people to say that faucets are just a total waste of time. But I admit that I'm happy to know bitcoin and faucets are the first step of my earning days with bitcoin. And I really get bored as the day goes by because the amount that I'm able to get is really small that's why I tried to find out some other ways of earning like trading.
That's the fact of most of us here, we start with faucet until we upgrade our way of earnings. Faucets are everywhere and it's a lessons learn not to spend much time when there's plenty of opportunity you can explore in the bitcoin world. It can give you steady income but only small income.

I would choose to have a risky investment than having a steady income that does not satisfy me.

What you have said is something fishy to me, you are going to take "risky" investment. But all of investments are really risky but if you are thinking that you are going to take those phenomenal risky investments which are hyip's and cloud mining, I assume that is what you are talking about risky investment. If that is so, I will prefer to have steady low income rather than investing with them.
9173  Economy / Economics / Re: Best way for steady income on: January 21, 2017, 05:33:02 AM
Yes faucets are just a waste of time but if you really can't stay away with faucet and you believe with it then try to build up your own faucet site. And also joining a cloud mining site is like you are just giving out your bitcoins freely. Don't ever believe with those cloud mining sites because they are not really mining, they are ponzi which are scams.
But, faucets is a good step for those beginners who are trying to start their journey in bitcoin . Indeed, faucet gives you small amount of satoshi's for every claim at least those peoples knows how to earn bitcoin from different way, but after certain period they will know faucet is not good for long-term.

We can't stop people to say that faucets are just a total waste of time. But I admit that I'm happy to know bitcoin and faucets are the first step of my earning days with bitcoin. And I really get bored as the day goes by because the amount that I'm able to get is really small that's why I tried to find out some other ways of earning like trading.
9174  Economy / Economics / Re: You should never trust banks on: January 21, 2017, 05:19:38 AM
Banks are the most trustable one because they will give security for you money.But banks will charge only high amount transaction fee but when compared to other sectors of investment banks will provide little profits on your investment but it will pay on time.

I don't know why there are people that says that you can't trust banks as if that they are using bank services. Let's admit it that we need banking services and you really can trust your money with them as long as they are not the newly operating banks. It's our duty to choose those banks that are more stable enough to keep our money.
9175  Economy / Marketplace / Re: What kind of service/business would you create if you had funding and.... on: January 21, 2017, 05:02:00 AM
I'll implement an online store that helps to sell most of the day to day needs, especially handmade and traditional crafts. It needs high investment to initiate this business. When I make the required amount will make agreement with few other similar business groups and start my work along with bitcoin as one of the payment option.

We have same concept of business about online store. But i want to sell all types of items that can be seen on a typical shopping mall. I think this will going to hit because only few online stores offering this service and they are only selling limited items.

It's going to be hard to build a typical shopping mall online. But if you are going to check out coinmall.io maybe you can have some idea with what you are planning. But I would love to fund this type of business if that is going to be pioneer in your country. As there are a lot of e-commerce sites that are already successful, I believe that it is going to be successful also with bitcoin.
9176  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Anyone ever stop gambling? but then gamble again? on: January 21, 2017, 04:48:00 AM
Perhaps the reason that makes a come back in gambling is a growing need for money. and he can not forget about gambling completely. it is common to anyone who's gambling

Yeah, people wants to gamble because of the money involved here. Because lots of people really wants to win the jackpot even I also wants to win, whose not? hahaha. But of course I know how to handle myself and not all the time I am aiming for the jackpot, sometimes I just want to try my luck then if I am not lucky the stop. XD

It's more of feeling regret when a gambler is not going to gamble for so long. He thinks that he is wasting a lot of opportunity if he is not going to play but because of that regret instead of continuous quitting with gambling, he keeps on coming back and hopes to have more winnings when he comes back but what is happening is opposite.
This thing is definitely inside on each gambling addict out there and you are right they would really think off that if they don't play they are missing the chance of making money that's why they would really come back because they would really try to make more money that's why they become more broke in longer runs.They will completely stop if they don't have already money to spend on playing it.

Yeah I also have friends whose also dealing with the same situation. They often sell some jewelries or gadgets to you and use the money to play in casinos and most of the time they lose. Already given them advise but they can't really stop gambling. They really want to chase their loses and hoping that it would come back to them.

they do it because the fact the gambling is making easy money for others, their just thinking postivitely. they dont think that they might lose their money. they forgot that they are risking their money with the thing that has no assurance. lets just say they are in need of money, they want to get back their lost money from gambling. thats why they comeback and play again.

Yes that's the fact and that is only applicable to others but it can be good for making money for us but it is not going to be stable and guaranteed. I admit that sometimes when I really need money, I'm thinking that if I'm going to gamble and win with my bets then probably my problem is going to be solved, but that is just deceiving me.
9177  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: To Gamble or To Invest? on: January 21, 2017, 04:32:45 AM
I have experienced a great deal of loss gambling my funds in Yobit just yesterday and I think twice after that. What if I just invested it. Problem is we just tend to realize it when everything is lost. So, it would be better to start off with investment and if you are really the gambler type just use the profits that you have made from that investment. This could also be the start of minimizing the gambling addiction.
I do not even know whether yobit is a probably fair site to gamble in the first place they are neither an exchange nor a gambling site and you are really bold enough to wage your bets in their not so transparent dice game is simply gutsy. If you have a problem with gambling find a good gambling site in the first place  Cheesy what ever may be investment is the best way to go if you are not an addict .

I really don't trust yobit since their support is already been proven to be one of the poorest and their dice games and yopony are not really provably fair. It is a true exchange that doesn't really care for its customer when you got problems, so I don't advice for you guys to do gambling or investing with it. Better to look for some more good exchange and gambling site out there, if you want to dice just visit bitdice.
9178  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Gambling problem on: January 20, 2017, 06:14:05 AM
It's not that bad to gamble unless you are going to moderate it.

Almost everyone has a gambling problem, either they are addicted or not however alot of people keep on wanting to gamble when they have spare time or some money to spend . It is not bad of course however there is a risk in it that people might be addicted so dont even think that anyone could control their gambling habit
You make it sound as if everyone that gamble has some kind of gambling problem and that is not true, we can gamble responsibly without becoming addicted, in fact most people that gamble are able to control themselves, those that are addicted to gambling are just a minority.
Yes let's not generalize that most of the gamblers does have problem at all. There are gamblers who manage to gambler freely, because they have enough to gamble and it is not affecting their families with their habit or addiction. It just depends on the gambler on how he can take things very light and by setting priorities.
I am that person, never had a problem this days. When I started gambling, it's a normal thing that I was addicted, but I was able to fight that addiction and now I am a more matured gambler as experience teaches me how to be. Enjoying is the key since gambling is an entertainment, if ever you have a problem then you must solve that early, otherwise you will suffer that longer and you will live a very stressful life.

Thanks for sharing your experience and you surely did overcome your addiction. It is a good thing that you are able to conquer with your addiction by being a matured gambler. I think that is what those gamblers that are experiencing problem with their gambling activity nowadays. So that if ever there is going to be a problem, they can deal with it.
9179  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Anyone ever stop gambling? but then gamble again? on: January 20, 2017, 05:49:38 AM
Perhaps the reason that makes a come back in gambling is a growing need for money. and he can not forget about gambling completely. it is common to anyone who's gambling

Yeah, people wants to gamble because of the money involved here. Because lots of people really wants to win the jackpot even I also wants to win, whose not? hahaha. But of course I know how to handle myself and not all the time I am aiming for the jackpot, sometimes I just want to try my luck then if I am not lucky the stop. XD

It's more of feeling regret when a gambler is not going to gamble for so long. He thinks that he is wasting a lot of opportunity if he is not going to play but because of that regret instead of continuous quitting with gambling, he keeps on coming back and hopes to have more winnings when he comes back but what is happening is opposite.
9180  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Lost $25,000 AUD in one fucking day on: January 20, 2017, 05:27:45 AM
I'm gonna fucking kill my self
You won a bunch yesterday. Maybe it isn't just the right time for you today. Surely you are still in profit from your previous winnings. Smiley

I lost it ALL I have not a single dollar left in my name

I'm seriously considering breaking my face jumping off a fucking builindg

Don't do it dude, gambling is not life and your life is more precious than those amount that you lose for this day even though that amount is really too big. Don't make yourself wasted just because of it, there are a lot of ways so that you can stand again with your life. Just be serious with your life there are a lot of people who wanted to live but you want to kill yourself. Your even more lucky than them.
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