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9401  Economy / Service Discussion / Re: Dark marketplaces? on: December 02, 2016, 02:30:26 AM
Lots of the markets on there are scams. I have lost around $500-$600 being scammed of BTC on my old wallet. But, if you want to make lots of sales the Deep Web is the place to go. Good Luck!

That's why I don't want to visit dark market places and deep web anymore. I know the risk for having some deals there and it is not guaranteed that the person you are dealing with there is a legit person and sincere to have a nice deal with you. I guess you don't need to go to deep web if you want to make a lot of sales, you can just sell them anyway with social medias.
9402  Economy / Economics / Re: Why do people keep saying BTC is dead?! on: December 02, 2016, 02:10:54 AM
Well i am guessing that those people who keep saying Bitcoin is dead are the people who can not comprehend to Bitcoin price. Maybe they are thinking that because of the High Bitcoin Price today then lots of people will not be able to afford to buy 1 whole Bitcoin.
They are blind maybe, bitcoin is so much alive and I can see that clearly. That statement has no basis, and only those believer will be able to know the real status of bitcoin.

No they are not blind they are just simply creating these type of false information to make the people panic to sell bitcoins. And once it happened the price of bitcoin become lower as there are a lot of people are selling bitcoins or else they really want to destroy the good image of bitcoin because they are not getting benefit from bitcoin or their investment with it failed.
People who believes in the future of bitcoin will not panic like other people did. If the price falls, they will just buy it and hold it for the future. It's an opportunity not a mistake so we have to take the risk in doing it, it does not happen most of the time as the price of bitcoin rises.
Those people who know about bitcoin will not come in pressure and will continue investing into bitcoins, these people can really make money in bitcoin as they like to take risk by investing in bitcoins. Only rest of people who undergo the pressure by fearing for investing into bitcoins do come and say bitcoin is dead.


That's what I think - about what Bitcoin is dead alarmists say that if the price falls to 0.01 dollars ready all their stocks to sell Bitcoins

And it seems that bitcoin is keep on increasing again and this false information provided by those people who want to destroy bitcoin investments. Upon checking the value of bitcoin with preev the price now is $763 and yes bitcoin is becoming dead. Dead for those people who really hates it but for us this is a very great news.
9403  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Please teach me how to grow my bitcoin on: December 02, 2016, 01:57:05 AM
2 btc per week is a joke if you just doing investment like $200. And you just work at home.
You're not a bill gates, dude.
Just follow the rule step by step (bitcoin), and you'll how it works.

I guess the closest possible way to earn that weekly is with gambling only. But the risk is always there and there is no assurance that you will be able to meet that range of profit. With that $200 the only possible investment you can make with it is by investing with alt coins and trade it but don't expect that 2 BTC weekly.
9404  Economy / Marketplace / Re: How do you know when a site tries to scam you? on: December 01, 2016, 01:21:58 AM
when the offer seems too good

or they promise too much and too easy returns

also check what people said about them around

Yeah and we should be aware upon seeing those sites are offering good deal enough and you think the favor is in yours. Also, do some background checking if they have a very strong foundation of the source of the profit of their company. If they don't have then doubt it already because if so, they are just getting their profit from the deposits of their investors.
9405  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: How to make your first bets safely on: December 01, 2016, 01:09:43 AM
I know a very safe method... Don't bet at all and then I don't need to see a forum full of men/boys crying Cry
Direct to the point though. Not betting would be the safest method if you do like to have safe betting Smiley Better not to play gambling if you dont dare to take the risk because on playing gambling you will definitely lose up your money.

I got his point for telling don't bet at all haha. Because how is it that you are looking to make your bets safely if there is none because we are in gambling industry where everything is risky and no assurance of its outcome but it is always in the favor of the house edge? Maybe the way to make your bets safely, is to bet to the legit sites.
9406  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: What is your reason to gamble? Fun or profit? on: December 01, 2016, 01:01:51 AM
Whatever the reason is as long as you enjoy playin it its worthy. Playing for fun or profit is not the thing maybe it is the motivation at first when you decide to play it that day  but. The effort and time we use that matters . There were times I played without even noticing the time I consume roling or betting the emotions I feel everytime i played is quite unexpected. Therefore maybe its for fun or for profit also but it doesnt matter. I just played and spend only amount that I knew iwill not regret that I stake. 

I agree, even if its for profit or fun you should just be enjoying the money you are gambling. Because if you lose then who you would blame? No other than yourself because you are responsible what will be the result of the money you gamble. But of course if you win, then the credits will be to you because you are the one who is risking your money.
9407  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Why is gambling so addicting? on: December 01, 2016, 12:41:03 AM
I know that drugs and sex are really not good at all especially when you are doing sex with different people, I just said earlier that, "addicted in a game" I said "Games" only and not some other kind of any addiction.
As for everything there is a proper way, as for sex you have to legalize your sex through marriage similarly you have to play gambling in a proper way and only then you will not feel the need to stop it and will even not consider it as addiction, for this purpose you have to set a gambling strategy which will protect you from losing money.
people think that if gambling for fun only it will never turn you to an addicton.

but i think it is all wrong , gambling itself contain something addictive , too fun to leave , too easy to make money , so no matter how rare you gamble and what for you gambling , it is just the matter of time to see people get addicted to gamble .

Many are thinking about that and saying to themselves that they won't be addicted but in the end they are falling into addiction because they are not able to recover their winnings and they are losing too much of their money. And that is now they are aiming, to recover their loses but instead of that single aim, they are becoming more aggressive and wants to recover everything that is making them addicted.
people always lured to something called like "too good to be true" , gambling gives you a profit that really good in easy way and short time (they think) but actually it is like a trap , the only one that will have profit are casino owner .

and players will just suffering lost and addicted this is the most case happened.

Gambling is very deceiving, it will allow us to win at the beginning with some good profit. But in the end, we will just lose eventually and that will make us to be in rage mode to recover our losses. And that is leading us into becoming more addicted in gambling and no matter how it goes we want to recover it.
you know why you never given a winning in the end? and just a good beginning only?

it is because mostly people gamble without having any management skills , so if they calculate the whole amount which they have gambled and staked they will find a huge deficit , with a little touch of money management i guess people will not lured and get addicted.

I guess even you have that good management skills still you will just end up on getting addicted with it, why? Because you think that your strategy is good and effective enough, so what you will do? You are going to repeat what you have done again and again because that's going to be an advantage in your own thought.
9408  Economy / Economics / Re: If you were in desperate need for money.... on: December 01, 2016, 12:24:20 AM
When at work it was such an agreement when the team every month payday thrown off by the agreed amount each month and gave another member of the team at a time. In order that gave it a trifle, but the one who received it from every little thing going to a large sum. This is one way that the buy.

Yes, I've heard of such associations. This can really help in a difficult situation. But not everywhere is there - not at all on the friendly staff.
If I need money, I appeal to my parents, who are always ready to help.

I don't even have the guts to ask some associations or my friends for asking some money. I trust more of my parents and my siblings when I'm desperately in need for money. And it is better to go to them because when at the times of need we are the ones who are helping each other and it is not even an hard thing for them to lend me in the times of my need.
9409  Economy / Economics / Re: Investing Bitcoins? on: December 01, 2016, 12:02:46 AM
Investing bitcoin is good for all people it will gives us great income if we have also good amount of investment. And i know that if we have investment it will help us to be stable in the future.
Maybe not for all people dude, not all people can comprehend what is bitcoin and how can bitcoin help their lives. It's easy to say it since we are too convince about the great future of bitcoin but there's a reason why we are still in low numbers now compared to the world population.

Maybe for those people who know bitcoin then investing bitcoin is going to be a plus and benefits for them including us. Just forget about those people who are not yet convinced with the good things that are happening with bitcoin today especially its price increase. This is an advantage to us if we will invest in bitcoin then we'll get profit unlike those who don't believe, they will regret it in the end.
9410  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Why is gambling so addicting? on: November 30, 2016, 01:05:14 AM
I know that drugs and sex are really not good at all especially when you are doing sex with different people, I just said earlier that, "addicted in a game" I said "Games" only and not some other kind of any addiction.
As for everything there is a proper way, as for sex you have to legalize your sex through marriage similarly you have to play gambling in a proper way and only then you will not feel the need to stop it and will even not consider it as addiction, for this purpose you have to set a gambling strategy which will protect you from losing money.
people think that if gambling for fun only it will never turn you to an addicton.

but i think it is all wrong , gambling itself contain something addictive , too fun to leave , too easy to make money , so no matter how rare you gamble and what for you gambling , it is just the matter of time to see people get addicted to gamble .

Many are thinking about that and saying to themselves that they won't be addicted but in the end they are falling into addiction because they are not able to recover their winnings and they are losing too much of their money. And that is now they are aiming, to recover their loses but instead of that single aim, they are becoming more aggressive and wants to recover everything that is making them addicted.
people always lured to something called like "too good to be true" , gambling gives you a profit that really good in easy way and short time (they think) but actually it is like a trap , the only one that will have profit are casino owner .

and players will just suffering lost and addicted this is the most case happened.

Gambling is very deceiving, it will allow us to win at the beginning with some good profit. But in the end, we will just lose eventually and that will make us to be in rage mode to recover our losses. And that is leading us into becoming more addicted in gambling and no matter how it goes we want to recover it.
9411  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: To Gamble or To Invest? on: November 30, 2016, 12:56:31 AM
Gambling can only help you to have the profit if you are a lucky man. Although both of them contain risk which can make people lose their money, they are not the same. You must know how to distinguish them so as to fully understand how they work

You dont really need to understand how gambling works if you are just going to spend it all in just one time because all you need will be some luck. In long term then you need to know how things work however I doubt that it will help you in anything at all because you will just lose some money in the longer term if you gamble

There are just the same with risk but investing has lower risk than gambling which has the higher risk because it comes all with luck. With investments, it is consists of luck,knowledge,time and skill and if you will apply all of it then you will have a very successful investments. And with gambling there is a lot of chance of losing even you don't have those qualities.
9412  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: MY gambling strategy to limit loss and make btc on: November 30, 2016, 12:43:51 AM
Yes, no strategy will make you rich in gambling, but to control your loss in gambling, you should make some strategy otherwise you will all money. The plans will limit our loss and sometimes it will give some profit. So don't play gambling especially sports betting or poker games without a strategy. In slot games, i agree no strategy will limit our loss.

There are strategies that will make you rich in gambling, see those profesional poker players!  And those big time sports betting player!  Sometimes we need to look around than just say what is in our mind.

That is applicable if you are also good in poker but if you are not then you need to study poker first. Because there are people who are earning a lot with poker and by joining a lot of poker tournaments. But they are already rich enough and even they will loss some bitcoins they don't care for they afford to lose a lot of it.
9413  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: What is your average bet per game? on: November 30, 2016, 12:15:06 AM
Do you bet big like 1 BTC in hope to win 50 BTC with a huge risk or do you do small bets?

Bet big to win big? Or bet small over a long time to be safer?
Usually, I did not bet a big amount since I cannot take a huge risk and I don't have enough bitcoin if I lose it, better to bet what you can afford to lose, Just like eann014 say once you have played in gambling and you lose a big amount it surely you will go back in gambling and the worst scenario is if you have it again, play the game for more than you can afford to lose. ;-)

If I'm not mistaken there is a case in JackpotRacer that their player only bet small amount of satoshi's and in return he won a lot of bitcoins. I don't know if that is legit enough to believe that we can win in gambling just for small amount. But I think that is legit enough and that is making me inspired that I don't have to bet big amount just to win big profit.
9414  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Gambling crying thread on: November 30, 2016, 12:01:36 AM
I really hate it when im trying back my lost in gambling  until when im going to be unlucky on this website Cry i really want to get back what i've lost there my netprofit is negative in 0.06 bitcoins

That's why if you don't feel lucky with that site then you should do some other things to be able to prevent your lose their. And it is better that you will not run after your loses. Because if you are keep on chasing it, for sure you will end up the same fate and you will keep on losing again and again or you can limit the amount you play.
9415  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Do any people gamble under the age of 18? on: November 29, 2016, 04:25:18 AM
Kids should be in school and learning. They know nothing want do they want to gamble for ?
These are not concerns of little children.  A child should not be here even. That is bad parents.

They are irresponsible parents if they will allow their kids to be involved in any gambling activity. And kids should not really be in gambling because those people who are able to sustain their gambling addiction are the ones who can gamble without restriction because they have their own source. But for a kid, when it becomes addicted where he will get his source?
9416  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Can gambling be profitable in long term ? on: November 29, 2016, 04:10:06 AM
i'm a "the house always win" adopter.
i dont see it being profitable, yet, i do it as a hobby.

i do it for fun, not for profit. i'm sure there are a few successful gamblers even in the long term but definitely isn't easy.

If the house always win, make profit being at house's side, investing on their bankroll. It's not a lot of profit promises, but it's the only way to make profit on long term with gambling. You can play for fun and make some easy profit income at same time.  Smiley

It takes only one person to come with a huge bankroll and have a little bit of luck and take away all the website's bankroll.. it happens pretty often in gambling, and if you're that unlucky to be exactly on that website.. your investment will be over sooner than you might have planned. Gambling isn't profitable in a long term and investing isn't either, in my honest opinion.

I disagree, investing can be profitable in the long term especially if you are going to hold a lot of bitcoins in your cold storage and this has been proven by those early bitcoin adopters. And gambling is a fact that can't be profitable in the long term and the only one that will say this are the owners or operators of gambling sites.
9417  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: To Gamble or To Invest? on: November 29, 2016, 03:59:50 AM
Even in short term also no guaranty of earning money in gambling because it purely depends on only luck and without luck you can't win any money in gambling. So if you want to earn money the best option is only investments and as you said gambling is only for fun and entertainment.

Everything depends on luck however if you wish to stay in delusion then you are free to keep that thought however there is no denying that you might get lucky big time in gamble. You might be able to win huge amount in one try, some people has quite some luck to win huge amount and of course it is real indeed
Luck is a excuse actually earning and winning money needs brain and not luck.
If you are saying I lost in gambling because I had no luck or won because I had luck then that's pretty wrong to me because winning and loosing will be neutralized soon what you earn is what will remain with you, and hence investing with proper details of the investment scheme is way better.
everyone will agree that investing is much better than gambling.
it is a common thing , but since gambling is addicting everyone who have try to gamble will keep doing it.
it was the biggest problem that most gambler have , hard to think freshly they prefer to follow their emotion on something called "too good to be true" in gambling.

For those addicted gamblers of course they will choose to gamble whether how much they are losing and it wrecks their lives no one can stop them for choosing gambling. But for those gamblers who are just gambling smoothly, they will prefer to choose both because they know that both are going to good enough for them.
9418  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Is their any safe methods to gamble? on: November 29, 2016, 03:47:46 AM
I don't think cheaters will succeed forever as casinos will track them down eventually and stop them. They will be banned from entering the casino if they are caught. Now, this reminds me so much of Oceans Eleven!
cheating means not safe at all , as you have higher risk than gamble in usual way a normal way to bet. it might get you some profit because you found the game vulnerable and exploit it to get 100% chance to win.

but yes as time goes by the site owner will realize it and track you down to get their losing money back and they will get it.
Sites are not stupid, you can't cheat them as they are protecting their business very well. We might find some bugs in the system and we can take advantage for that but it's not gonna last as they'll easily detect it.

They'll see an abnormal operational behavior for their funds or your account getting more money than the others.

Gambling sites really hate winners but welcome losers.

It is very impossible that an individual gambler will able to find some way to cheat their system unless that person came from working there. But the fact is the anti-cheating system of each gambling sites are strong enough and they will not invest their thousands of bitcoins just to be cheated and there are security measures for building up a site so don't ever try to think about cheating the game and sites you will just end up being a loser more than a loser of a gambling game.
9419  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Gambling problem on: November 29, 2016, 03:33:50 AM
Today I received from one of the giveaway, when yesterday I promise that when I get giveway I would not use it to gamble but today I have the desire to gamble. and in the end I lost my bitcoin. is there any good suggestions for me ?. I always break my word alone

If you are breaking your word alone, its better to spend your bitcoins from some other profitable ways like trading or else you will do it again.

I guess you need to set some stronger promise to yourself with proper application because you have problem with application of your promise.

Maybe aim higher that you need to save a lot of bitcoins in able to get some decent profit as the price is also increasing.
For sure you understand that trading is more profitable compared to gambling for the reason that gambling is just for fun while trading is a serious venture of making money. Try to analyze your chances and evaluate yourselves, it's good to venture in money making activity that you can use your skills than your luck.

If you are not getting good benefit with gambling your giveaways then you should really stop it and if your words are not being followed by you. Then you should be able to call someone to remind you that you must need to force yourself that you need to follow your promise. Because for me, if the amount you gambled came from giveaways lose that's fine but still will feel sorry about it.
9420  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Everyone looses in the long run on: November 29, 2016, 03:16:43 AM
Greed is indeed the key issue in any gambling that exists in the world and most of them are also becoming greedy people will even be someone who had a bad life. because all funds they have lost only to use for gambling in which they only get a big loss. So if we want to get something beneficial in gambling then we must eliminate appetite and never greedy
In one sense everyone is greed as everyone is continuously struggling for making money, and I never saw a single person who have stop earning because he considered his earned money enough for spending life. Therefore everyone is in fact greedy. So, it will be obvious with failure of emotion control, everyone will lose in gambling for sure.
Consider gambling as a way to get extra money and fun, not an earning for life and not get addicted to it when you winning is the key not to losses.
Moreover, we already realize that gambling is so risky and we put money with high chance to lose it, so don't expect to much when you gambling, greedy won't help you win the games.
Sorry, I don't see it that way. I choose only one between the two as it's the proper way to manage it, when you are doing it for fun, you must focus with it and no other hidden agenda. The problem with us is we mixed things that's not effective when mixed, if we aim for money then we should focus on our method as it's a hard journey for all of us.

I can consider gambling as a way to get some entertainment but thinking that it can be a good source of extra money, I would also say it's a no. It can be hard to accept the fact because most of the time that I gamble, I'm just losing some of my bitcoins. So instead of wanting to get all my loses back, I'm just accepting that gambling is not really for me and I use to gamble now only for fun and killing time.
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