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1361  Other / Serious discussion / Re: KYC is expanding to YouTube. How wrecked is digital privacy? on: November 08, 2020, 12:13:54 PM
One would hope that it would create a niche in the market that new competitors would fill.  In an ideal world, maybe get a bit more diversity and put an end to YouTube/Google's total dominance.  But something tells me people are getting lazier and many are likely to just go with the flow and not challenge this trend.  Troubling times.
Replacing YouTube with something else is very difficult because a lot of people have specific channels they watch all the time on YT. Unless most of them move to a competitor, this likely won't happen. Google has been smart enough to ensure themselves that any competitor has a very rough time to go through in order to get past YT. Hence, they'll likely live even with this identity thing. Most people will say, "it's just my ID, and Google wouldn't do anything bad with it". Smiley

I've been using Ecosia for a few months now.  Seems decent enough.  Never seemed to get the results I was looking for with engines like DuckDuckGo or StartPage.  Ecosia has the better algorithm, IMO.  

Can't say I've heard of any of the others in your list, though.  Might be some good ones among them.
Thanks for the suggestion, I'm not sure if it's only a placebo effect or something but it feels like DuckDuckGo's search algorithm has been significantly changed in the past few weeks - I don't have the issue with getting wrong results at all anymore. I'll give Ecosia a try though for sure.
1362  Other / Serious discussion / Re: as idiots cry about 5G.. china is testing 6G on: November 08, 2020, 12:06:42 PM
I'm not really sure if I'm the idiot for waiting for someone to show me some real study on how 5G is not producing any kind of damage to the human body/brain before actually supporting it or you're the idiot for believing plain words without any kind of scientific backing behind it.

It's kinda funny how I'm being insulted for my skepticism over a certain vaccine/technology when all I'm really looking for is some evidence that 5G rollouts or the said vaccine is not harmful in any way, today and in the long term. It's like I'm being told to shut my mouth for simply asking for evidence. Funny times. Cheesy

There are enough scientists out there who are concerned about the 5G rollout and I think it's more logical to doubt something that never existed before than taking it for granted just because it's faster than what we've had. But yeah, wait, what the mainstream media says is the exact truth and there's obviously nothing to fear if everyone likes faster speeds. Why use your brain when you're already being told what to think and believe ayway Tongue
1363  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: What made yoi think of investing in bitcoin at the current market? on: November 08, 2020, 11:42:22 AM
As for me, the price is pretty high right now, and I am not a person who dreams of Bitcoin worth $50k or more. I prefer stability to bulls and bears. $15k is a very good price, and I'd be glad if Bitcoin just stabilized here
The way Bitcoin works simply doesn't allow it to be stable. If you're looking for something stable, Bitcoin just isn't it and the past shows it quite well. And tbh, I think a lot of people would lose interest in BTC if it became stable. It's one of the most fascinating things about it. Grin

I'd be glad if Bitcoin just stabilized here, the fees normalized and more places started accepting Bitcoin as payment.
Fees can't be "normalized" if more places start accepting Bitcoin. When demand/number of txs increases, the mempool clogs up. This is one of the reasons it is still largely considered an investment rather than a currency.

And if the price has to be lower for this, I don't mind. Bitcoin is still largely considered an investment, but I think it undermines what Bitcoin is.
Well, I think this is double-edged honestly. While there are some users out there who are using it more as a currency than an investment, we have to think of potential consequences of it becoming more of a mean of exchange than anything else. I don't think we have any fiat currency today that is volatile, so paying for stuff isn't a mess in our daily lives. But Bitcoin is the opposite - imagine paying for an online order worth $1k while Bitcoin's price increases substantially. Before your tx gets confirmed, you'll want to use RBF to get back your money as you now basically have a pending payment worth way more than $1k.
1364  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: What made yoi think of investing in bitcoin at the current market? on: November 08, 2020, 08:39:18 AM
I'd invest in it at any price, honestly. I just know that it gets harder and harder to mine coins, which means the only way price should theoretically move is upwards. The fact that Bitcoin is not linked in any way to our current financial system makes it 100x better.

When people seek for a refuge, they'll become interested in cryptocurrencies. They're just "standalone", uncontrolled. Then, last but not least, privacy is lately fading out and people will want something to get their privacy back. Bitcoin is here for that, although unfortunately a lot of people do not use it the right way and expose their fingerprints and identities everywhere around.

I'd buy at any price because, as @mk4 said above, I personally consider it to be cheap today compared to what I'm personally predicting. It's likely all about time before the next insane bull run begins.
1365  Other / Beginners & Help / Re: my simple way to store bitcoin - is it any good on: November 08, 2020, 08:28:41 AM
use electrum to create 12 words
use electrum to copy a bitcoin address to text file on usb

go to exchange, send bitcoin to that text address, (not to any online type wallet)

then get a 'watch-only' wallet, enter the address and see if bitcoins are there

and never enter the 12 words on any wallet that goes online..
The 12 words you create are the seed for your wallet. If you lose them, you lose all these Bitcoin addresses you want to copy. The only thing you should ever give someone is the Bitcoin address. Not the private keys, not the seeds. These two should only be known and seen by you. Think of the seed and private keys as the key to your house.

Remember that once you give someone an already used Bitcoin address, they will be able to verify your balance and past transactions. That means, they'll know that the address should be yours. They will only be able to watch your Bitcoin address though. To use it in actions such as message signing and spending coins, they'll need the seed and/or private key(s).

If you want to follow the replies before me and go after an airgapped wallet, then remember that the "text address" you were talking in the third row I quoted from your message is the same address you should insert into the "watch-only" wallet. But I repeat, your Bitcoin address, not the privkey or seed.

One thing I would suggest is that you use USB sticks and microSD cards between devices as least as possible. USBs are one of the easiest ways you could get a device that contains your Bitcoin wallet infected, and plugging an infected USB into your airgapped device to only plug it back into an unsafe PC is a risk. Rather than using an USB to copy addresses, you could just use QR codes with Electrum and a webcam instead.

Personally, I would first transfer only a few bucks and make sure they're going to the right place before moving all my funds to the airgapped device. Better be safe than sorry.
1366  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Bitcoin as a world power? on: November 08, 2020, 08:05:54 AM
Honestly, hearing about a president getting into cryptocurrencies would be the most sketchy thing I'd ever hear about. I'd think twice about the possibility of these news to be positive rather than negative. I'm not sure when was the last time I heard about the state supporting something they cannot keep their hand on, because it seems like control is the only way they're heading.
1367  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Will Turnoff Happen to Bitcoin on: November 07, 2020, 08:48:48 PM
LN seems to be an okay approach for this issue, but only considering today's needed scalability. If we take into account even larger number of txs to be needed than LN supports today, we may need another approach.

I personally don't think it's logical for an investor to be turned off by these issues. The mempool has been clogged many, many times in the past few years and if one does proper research, they'll already know about it before investing any money. If they have no idea about some of the most prominent issues Bitcoin has, then I consider them bad, bad investors.
1368  Economy / Economics / Re: Biggest threats to the price of Bitcoin. on: November 07, 2020, 10:52:06 AM
I was wondering what you guys think is the most likely instances that would cause the price of bitcoin would sink back below say the $5,000 or the $10,000 mark?
A strong push against Bitcoin by top world powers such as the US. This would heavily impact the price and I think it's the most likely thing to happen.

Things such as Quantum Computers are repairable. I'd have to guess if QCs turned out to be a real danger, we'd just fork off Bitcoin to a QC-resistant fork. There are ways to go around it, even if the impact's already been done. Same goes for software bugs: they existed before and were fixed very quick. Solar flares really do create way larger issues than Bitcoin though, although the article says this shouldn't be the right way to think. Like, I'm sorry but I think the world would immediately go absolutely crazy if all communication was suddenly cut by such an event. It's similar to EMP attack scenarios - I would care more about my safety and life than about all those devices that'll be affected by it.
1369  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: What do you think is the biggest disadvantage of bitcoin? on: November 07, 2020, 09:23:25 AM
In my opinion, the main weakness of Bitcoin is the limited internet service. because bitcoin can only be accessed using the internet network. and we all know only developed countries where almost all of the population can access the internet. whereas in third countries only 50% of the population has access to the internet. but I am optimistic that over time the internet network will expand. and bitcoin will be a revolutionary currency that is very suitable for us to use in a digital era like this.
It's not something that cannot be solved though. Bitcoin does not necessarily need an active internet connection, there are several workarounds for that. There are quite a few people who've worked on keeping Bitcoin active even in the event of EMPs or full internet shutdowns. The main issue with this is, you'd need special equipment.

For areas or population without internet access, there are some other larger issues they'll have to confront soon such as the slow disappearance of cash. At one point, they'll have to go digital anyway. It's the dream of our current world's governments. The more digital, the more control so the happier they are.
1370  Other / Beginners & Help / Re: HWs and Airgapped PCs: I'm under doubts. What should I do? on: November 07, 2020, 07:35:09 AM
Maybe you should try check distro listed by FSF, since RYF certification also issued by FSF. If it doesn't work, i would question quality of the RYF certification or list of free distro by FSF.
Thanks, I'll look into those as well although there are some other options AFAIK such as installing Debian without the non-free packages. The main issue, as I mentioned earlier, is that it's all fun until I get to issues such as a certain device not being recognized. That's where I always give up after hours of research by adding non-free repos and installing non-free stuff.

All of them include non-free software. Additionally,
1. Tails is designed for live boot OS. You need to configure persistent storage correctly to prevent data loss.
2. Qubes should be most secure/private OS, but it's very heavy and difficult to use. I only wanted to try the OS, but gave up quickly after installation.
3. I don't know much about ParrotSec, so i've no comment about it.
Yeah, I used to play with Tails until I found out Whonix is supposedly more secure than it. AFAIK, it protects your IP way better than Tails does.

Qubes surely is very secure and feels safe, I have it on my primary disk on my PC and I love it. It's not that hard to use if you get the basic stuff, to be honest. Took probably only an hour or two for me to get the hang of it, and the thought that you can basically have isolated offline and online VMs running simultaneously in the same PC is amazing. While it says it's a very heavy distro, I never had an issue running even 5-6 VMs at the same time. That's kinda weird, considering I have a quite old PC I'm running Qubes on.

ParrotSec is a great distro if you want to run Tor on a system-wide level (or to make use of hacking/security tools). AnonSurf is the main reason I've been using it.
1371  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: The Best Bitcoin Banks of 2020 on: November 06, 2020, 08:11:45 PM
To be honest, I would not trust any bank at all. While some of them seem to be friendly, I would never hold any crypto funds on there. Crypto hodlers are considered suspects in way too many cases and that makes me wonder why I wouldn't be one if I ever wanted to hold crypto in my bank account.

And then, considering that harsh limits are right now being rolled around the world with cash txs, I suppose the situation with crypto txs will get much worse soon. I'd avoid linking any kind of crypto activity with my banks. I'd rather be my own bank instead.
1372  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Top Reasons You Should Know More Before Buying Bitcoin (BTC) on: November 06, 2020, 07:50:39 PM
1. No Political Interferences
2. Investing in Bitcoin is Simple
3. Irreversible Transactions
4. Reach Globally
5. Bitcoin Boost Your Bank Balance
I'm sorry, but this is a quite poorly written list of things about Bitcoin that should supposedly make you interested in it. I would not consider Bitcoin investments a simple thing to do and it will not "boost" your bank account balance. It's not like BTC is a magical world where you become rich out of nowhere and the market's past does not make for a better future.
1373  Other / Serious discussion / Re: KYC is expanding to YouTube. How wrecked is digital privacy? on: November 06, 2020, 09:36:04 AM
You ever heard of this phrase "security is an illusion"?
As long as you're connected to the internet, anonymity is zero, whether you do KYC or not, your information is out there already, unless and i meant unless you create your own internet, you aren't protected.
Big, big difference between consciously and wittingly handing out very accurate information about you and them trying to find out where you live, what your hobbies are and what you're interested in or who you are. Handing out KYC data is just like telling Google where you live. It's you giving the information yourself.

Losing of privacy starts with the first usage of Windows on a new PC/Laptop and it continues all the way until we either shift to a better Linux based OS or sell the PC altogether. We are well aware that Windows is a bloatware and adware and we will be watching the ads in the start menu based on our search history. If we want this to be saved, we should start using Linux based OS like Manjaro or some easier one like Ubuntu. If you are a fan of Windows, try to customize Linux with Cinnamon DE and you are good to go.
This website is a great one for privacy newbies. I personally don't like Manjaro, but to be honest, any Linux distro is substantially better than Windows.

The second thing is the usage of search engines. Google is an utter nonsense which sells our data to improve the user experience and we are very well aware of this. This is probably the reason I have stopped using Google for the majority of the time. I have experienced this practically when I was on a break from cryptocurrencies back in May-June. Right from 2018 I never browser a day without watching a crypto ad in non-crypto forums or websites. When I got to know more about Google's shit, I moved onto DuckDuckGo and never turned back. The third and most important privacy centric application is your Chat app in Mobile/PC. For god's sake, I would never trust any facebook products with my personal information and this was one of the reasons why I moved onto Signal for confidential and privacy centric chats. I have an anonymous dummy Instagram account just to browse crypto related news and nothing more.
While you are right, DuckDuckGo is turning dark as well imo. The fact that they removed OpenStreetMaps and now the only option you have for Maps is Apple's, it turned into a big red flag that I should be seeking other search engines.

Honestly, I'm not sure what other alternatives there are. Whonix suggests YaCy, Qwant, ecosia, MetaGer and Peekier but I'm not sure whether they're better alternatives or it's just a marketing gimmick.

Never trust GMAIL with your personal and confidential information. Use protonmail or other mail providers which I have mentioned in your topic a few months back in Serious Discussion. If we are in need of complete digital privacy we should be limit our usage of Microsoft, Facebook and Google Products. Summing up these above discussion, this is my current setup to preserve my digital life and digital well being :
I think I remember we talked about e-mail platforms; I personally don't trust any e-mail platform because they're all centralized. But honestly, I'd use and support anything but Google's/Facebook's/Apple's stuff.
1374  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: State-Issued Digital Currencies - Why do you need to sell all your bitcoin on: November 06, 2020, 07:00:02 AM
What I find funny is that a lot of people think CBDCs will actually grow in price like Bitcoin does. They won't - they'll be stable, just like Tether and all those other stablecoins. CBDCs will not be rare and will never have halvings.

Decentralized governance will always find its way. It just can't go away unless everyone likes control, and trust me: a lot of people don't and never will. Just think about it: today authorities barely care about printing trillions of USD (although it's mostly virtual USD, not physically printed money). Just imagine how much money they'd be able to steal and create when these systems are ready, lol. New money is going to be a codeline/button away.
1375  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: what happened to Bitcoin and cryptocurrency? on: November 06, 2020, 06:46:45 AM
Bitcoin doesn't need to "become" legal. It already is in a lot of states. When national digital currencies will pop up, I honestly believe people will first sell and go bearish on BTC for a while - until they realize what a mistake they've made by supporting national digital currencies.

It will become more obvious that Bitcoin is something we need when people'll start realizing we will have idiotic limits and rules with national digital currencies. It's going to be you under complete financial surveillance and control.

Bitcoin will always be necessary, no matter what the states are going to develop. Whatever a centralized governance is going to develop, be sure that it's going to be centralized as well. Bitcoin won't be, so it'll be the opposite of what governments will actually create.
1376  Economy / Speculation / Re: Is it wise to deposit $ 100 in bitcoin before the united states vote? on: November 03, 2020, 06:59:04 PM
I feel like the market will move, but it's more like gambling or risky trading. If you want to accept the idea that you may win or lose part of your money, do it. I would personally not act based on the US votes, although it does influence the future of the world for sure and, at the same time, the potential future of cryptocurrencies if we consider regulations.

What I'd buy Bitcoin for is to isolate my finances from the system of enslavement humanity is currently stuck into. Purchase it to secure your finances from a state that wants to take control over your personal life, or purchase it if you want to have something nobody has an unlimited coin printing machine for - or if you want to make sure that no matter which national currency fails, you will have something to serve as an alternative option.

In a world where private life becomes less private than ever before, with an ATH of worldwide debt, with the worst economical situation the world has had in a century and in the middle of a pandemic where we literally have no idea whether one week from today we'll still be allowed to legally exit our homes or not while everything moves to the digital, I believe Bitcoin comes as a solution for those who're looking for a safehouse. These all make for solid reasons for me to purchase Bitcoin, not the US election. That's just a drop of water in the cup.
1377  Other / Beginners & Help / Re: HWs and Airgapped PCs: I'm under doubts. What should I do? on: November 03, 2020, 04:26:06 PM
If you're that worried, you might as well as use linux distro that only bundle free (as in open source) software or even hardened linux distro.
FSF have such list if you're curious at https://www.gnu.org/distros/free-distros.html, but i never tried any of the listed distro.
Thanks. Free Linux distros are something I'd definitely go after, but I find myself getting stuck with various errors due to missing hardware kernels/drivers. It's some kind of maze I can't seem to figure out yet, and Tails/Qubes/ParrotSec seems to fix them all although I'm quite sure a lot of the fixes involve non-free packages. I might give it a try this time though. I'm not in a hurry, so I have plenty of time to experiment before actually moving my funds there.
1378  Other / Beginners & Help / Re: HWs and Airgapped PCs: I'm under doubts. What should I do? on: November 03, 2020, 11:56:25 AM
Thanks @o_e_l_e_o for the last reply. Will keep everything you mentioned in mind. Smiley

I think it is terribly difficult to achieve absolute privacy in today's world where everything is actually analyzed, and if you look at all those companies that deal exclusively with BTC blockchain analysis, just one wrong step is enough to be identified in one way or another. For those to whom BTC is attractive as a payment currency, privacy is a terribly big challenge - I have to admit that so far I have not decided to go in that direction.
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Therefore, it is quite justified to look for some new solutions and to look for every possible flaw in the existing ones.
I agree. It's increasingly difficult to preserve your anonymity and keep everything under control nowadays, and while Bitcoin is an amazing tool we can use to improve the financial freedom and control, the fact that it's a public ledger only makes it even worse in some situations.

A few members of this forum made me focus a lot on privacy issues that come with the average person's usage of Bitcoin, especially as I found myself to be among those who were using it the wrong way - and looking at how things change on a daily basis, I get a general negative sentiment about our digital future. Hence, I see protecting our coins in a private way as an essential thing.. although I may seem to be going a bit towards the extremes lately. Cheesy
1379  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: The crypto compliance lie: Sacrificing privacy does not make us safer on: November 03, 2020, 11:37:28 AM
Am I being too pessimistic? I don't think so, just look around.
We gave up freedom for comfort, that's the least we can get.
You're being realistic. It's the unfortunate truth people do not want to hear and acknowledge. It's sometimes easier to accept and live in a false reality, where you're being told what to think rather than thinking on your own.

What websites are you visiting? I cant remember the last time I used a website which wanted to know more than an email address (which of course would have been a disposable email).
@Karartma1 is probably talking about websites collecting your fingerprint & digital behavior and scrapping as much data as possible.
1380  Other / Serious discussion / Re: KYC is expanding to YouTube. How wrecked is digital privacy? on: November 03, 2020, 10:00:52 AM
I don't think it's so scary. As you say, to have a google account, you already needed a verified phone account, and they could also trace you via IP (there are very few people who use VPN). The ID thing is one more step, but it doesn't change much. In this case I think it is to know your age, because having your mobile number (or your IP) they could not know your age.

What I do believe is that the channels that produce restricted videos will migrate to other platforms, such as vimeo.

They should start doing this with porn-Youtubes like Xvideos or Pornhub, because we have a generation of kids that start accessing porn at a very early age, like 8 or 10 years old.
So what happens if my kid steals my credit card or ID to falsely prove that he is over 18? If kids are curious to find out about adult stuff, it's their parents' fault for being let so free on the Internet and I should not be forced to provide personal data to access it. There are enough ways out there to keep your kids away from adult-oriented things on the web.

TV channels are one of the easiest ways for children to access adult/mature oriented content, yet ever since the existence of TVs, nobody's ever asked me or anyone else around the world for an ID to access news and explicit content that appears on a daily basis on music channels.

I think having phone number verification and IP tracing is more than enough personal information to create an account. I should not be forced to prove my identity to access something that is supposed to be free. My personal documents and information are the alternative currency these platforms lately use to their own gain. If I have to access adult-oriented videos on YouTube only if I provide my ID or CC, I think it's getting into a serious privacy threat that really disturbs me.

Now about porn, that would be even more concerning than the YouTube situation. Linking my porn history with my real identity and being able to create a perfect analysis of my preferences over sexual content is something I really don't want someone to be able to do, and I'm sure a lot of other people think the same.
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