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1161  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Bitcoin Addresses showing 100000's of transactions on: December 26, 2020, 09:47:22 PM
Exchanges handle probably thousands, if not more, of transactions a day. The addresses you've been watching could be exchanges sending their customers the withdrawals they've requested. Or maybe it's a mining pool's address. A large no. of transactions does not make a certain address "dodgy".
1162  Economy / Speculation / Re: How is bitcoin worth buying now at these prices? on: December 26, 2020, 09:25:42 PM
It's as worth it as it was back when it was $0.01, $1, $10, $100, $1k or $10k. Today, it's $25k. In the future, if the same cycle is followed, it will be worth way more than it currently is.

You're following a mindset that is completely wrong. A $0.01 shitcoin or stock is NOT easier to bump up and double in price than a $25k to $50k Bitcoin is. In fact, as Bitcoin has a long history of incredible price jumps, it is more likely imo that Bitcoin will follow the previous cycles than it is for stocks to randomly double up in price. Think percentage, not USD. 100% has so far been an easy target for Bitcoin every few years.

Here's how it went for me and my friends so far: I thought Bitcoin was too expensive when it was over $1k. Then, I thought it'd crash to nothing when it fell to under $200. Then, I thought I missed out the bull ride again when it jumped back to $500. Since then, I've learned my lesson: Bitcoin is never a bad investment. No hodl has gone bad for me in 7 years so far.

I told my friends to invest back when a Bitcoin was under $1k and they thought it's too cheap. Same happened when it reached $5k and then $10k. Had they invested when I suggested them to, they would've thanked me today. But never forget there is a risk and one day the cycle might not be followed. If you strongly believe Bitcoin is a good investment and can assume the risks, then jump in our boat.
1163  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: rotchilds funds invest in bitcoin why?? on: December 26, 2020, 08:35:03 PM
Two options: either betting on Bitcoin's price purely for profit or going after the golden saying: if you can't beat 'em, join 'em! At this point, it's almost impossible to fight back against Bitcoin's existence. Best thing bankers can do is just try to change people's direction from Bitcoin to the bankers' digital currencies so that BTC's adoption slows down before they find out a way to fight it.

Bankers love money. If they purchase Bitcoin for money, they'll have to sell at one point and that means they could empower the next Bitcoin crash with the help of all the other institutional investors as well.

Also, remember that bankers hating on Bitcoin's existence does not mean they don't want financial freedom. Most of the time, it's the politicians breaking most laws and getting away with it. Bankers want freedom, but they don't want it in the people's hands.
1164  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Crypto and btc are future on: December 26, 2020, 08:13:48 PM
Cash will stay it just all money system will be on ethereum.

The CDBC Dont come its a fake talking if the real future of crypto will be revealed many people will be against this.
Well, this is quite contradictory. CBDCs will either sit on Ethereum or some other already-existing blockchain (I doubt it) or banks will just create their own blockchain from scratch (more likely). Banks probably prefer creating their own blockchain from scratch because they want full control over everything. CBDCs will be real, they aren't false prophecies. China has been testing their own digital coin for months if not years now, and Europe has surely been already working on it for a while as well.

The real future of crypto is unknown, besides the fact that BTC and some other top coins will never cease to exist. Also, from what I've seen, people choose what's easier all the time so a revolt against CBDCs or fiat is very unlikely.

Its too early to tell this plan but this is coming
What's truly coming is the State of Surveillance, and it's quite eerie to think about it and the potential Orwellian-kind of dystopian world we could be turning into.
1165  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: December 26, 2020, 12:43:59 PM
Another day, another ATH hey. Who would have thought this loser would do so well with BTC, that magic internet money?
Oh yeah, I wish my friends listened to me when I told them to invest just 5% out of their lifetime savings in BTC back when it was under $700. But "ponzi scheme" and "soon-to-be crashing" were two things that were quite trendy at the time when you told someone about investing in BTC. At this point, no hodler is on a loss ever since Bitcoin's inception. It's incredible!
1166  Economy / Speculation / Re: Will institutional investors kill the four year boom/bust cycle? on: December 26, 2020, 12:31:59 PM
While I get your point and it certainly is an interesting point of view, selling is part of the investment game as replies say above. Therefore, I personally think that when we have more and more institutional investors (and not only those but other regular investors as well) joining in, these cycles will actually become even more powerful than they used to be.

Beforehand, we've had newbies coming in and dumping 100s or thousands of bucks during crashes. Since there were lots of newbies dumping small amounts, the market turned into a big parabolic bear run. But today, with institutional investors coming in with billions of bucks, a single $10M dump would crash the markets immediately and provoke a larger fuss than small dumps would. Add the regular people panicking and dumping their money as well, other institutional investors dumping theirs in order to either cash in high or just planning to purchase lower and you'd have a big bomb overall.

On the other hand, this truly depends on the way institutional investors sell. I doubt it'd be a $10M order on Binance, so their moves may actually not be felt as a strong impact. But when you think about it, institutional investors publicly announcing the sale of their Bitcoin holdings could easily crash our still immature market.

Personal opinion: this is a highly speculative thing and the best thing we can do is wait for another round of 4 years (so until 2028) so that we can see whether institutional investors joining in have impacted and influenced BTC cycles differently or it's better/worse than it used to be.
1167  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Bitcoin Massadoption - Is it ready? on: December 26, 2020, 12:13:57 PM
"Bitcoin is complex" argument has no merits at all. Everything else people are using in their day to day lives is complicated, some of them are even far more complex than bitcoin. For example the computer you are using, the operating system, ... is very complicated and yet millions of people are using it every day some of them don't even know what an OS is let alone know how it works.
Bitcoin is just new and being new is scary to some people so they claim it is "complex". Otherwise why would regular users want to know how bitcoin works when they don't care about how everything else works?
It is way more complex than more convenient ways such as creating a PayPal or a bank account. When you have an easier alternative, you go for that one. It's why between purchasing a loaf of bread and baking one yourself, most people prefer the latter.

Otherwise, why are there so few people who know programming languages compared to the no. of people who are using computers? No. of Linux users vs Windows ones? People tend to go more after newbie/user-friendly stuff as a priority. Bitcoin is not an average Joe's priority because the average Joe doesn't need it yet. And when CBDCs go mainstream, it will become even harder to convince someone to get into BTC unless they truly care about freedom more than convenience.

When privacy and surveillance becomes a widespread issue and a significant number of people start acknowledging the need of a less-controlled and monitored life, Bitcoin might become a priority in their lives. But until then, unless people wake up to the reality (and I don't think they will, because the transition to a Surveillance State is so smooth you don't even notice), Bitcoin's complexity will be a blockage for mass adoption.
1168  Other / Beginners & Help / Re: how to invest best $2,000-$5,000? on: December 25, 2020, 09:56:20 PM
HODL like you like to say even if I don't understand why Cheesy
Comes from a legendary older post from someone on BTCTalk who was drunk and couldn't write grammatically correct. Cheesy

As far as I see, it's not the good time to buy now anything but some small amounts to play with in order to learn more about fees and to figure out the best options/services that can be used to get lowest fees when starting with fiat, going through crypto then back to fiat.
This is mostly about luck now, honestly. You never know when the bull run ends, nor do you know whether a bear run is on the way. Most of the time, as far as I've noticed, it ends up as a crash post-NYE and then the real bull run begins months afterwards.

But once again, you could start investing a fixed amount every day/week/month so that you get a favorable DCA. Rather than purchasing $25k worth of BTC today and losing half of it if tomorrow Bitcoin falls back to $12k, you could purchase smaller amounts every X days so that the average purchase price moves accordingly. This way, it's much easier to get back to a profit when market crashes happen.
1169  Other / Beginners & Help / Re: Policies for newbies and other users. on: December 25, 2020, 09:44:02 PM
How about this?
please check, i am having a little trouble differentiating which is real and not
on the one hand they register in the same campaign, use the same social media, and also the same Ethereum address.
They're likely the same owner using multiple accounts. But trying to register to bounties/campaigns using different accounts while still registering under the same links is a bit of a nonsense, lol.
1170  Other / Off-topic / Re: Merry Christmas to all fellow Bitcoiners on: December 25, 2020, 08:48:30 PM
Happy Christmas guys. I've only been in Crypto for 2 months and bought in with a single Bitcoin at the start of November, I probably over extended myself as I don't have a huge amount of money and most of what I bought in was from a loan. Maybe this wasn't the most sensible idea but it made sense to me and right or wrong it's working out really well at the moment. I'm about $10,000 in profit already. $5,000 profit for December and just today, I'm currently over $700 up which has paid for Christmas. I've never had so much money at Christmas before and reading the posts on this forum helped give me the confidence that Bitcoin was a good place to invest. Thanks Satoshi and thanks to everybody who is a part of this community. Let's hope the good times continue to roll. I hope you all have a lovely Christmas!
Not an expert, but my personal advice is that you pay back the loan and remain with half a BTC. As it is a loan, you'd basically have a free 0.5 BTC if you'd do that.

It's tempting to keep both the coin and the loan, but since you're a newbie it's easy to make big mistakes. You've joined the crypto journey in quite bullish times; bearish ones such as sudden crashes may make you take emotionally-driven decisions that are often bad ones. Hence, why not keep just half of the coin and no more loan so that you're nobody's slave instead?

Anyway, Merry Christmas everyone! Smiley
1171  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Price of #Bitcoin on Christmas on: December 25, 2020, 08:34:27 PM
I said it months ago and will say it again: my personal prediction for 2021 is $80-120k. It's really not a big surprise anymore to see such incredible increases yet so many people miss them out thanks to FUD and FOMO.

Just invest some bucks and simply forget about their existence. If you accept the risk of a potential Bitcoin price crash, you will likely be good. A decentralized economy where people have the power rather than the governments is something the humanity will never cease to need.
1172  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Bitcoin Massadoption - Is it ready? on: December 25, 2020, 07:57:58 PM
Yeah, there were exclusions when it comes to this matter or age bracket of people on where they would really be having a hard time on understanding everything but there are
some elderly which are really in with the tech which means they can still adapt but let these things do stick out on younger generation.Im not saying that they shouldnt get involved
but its up to someone if they choses for it to do so.This market is free and doesnt limit out on whose people would gonna engage nor tend to learn on it.
Adoption is on the move as the years goes by and we would see on how crypto will be having its role in the entire society.
And the more years go by, the easier it becomes to make an old man understand today's tech as generations also renew. But I doubt the elderly are the main issue of Bitcoin's adoption. Because again, even if everyone on this world would've known how to use a mobile phone, from phones and computers to Bitcoin it is a very big leap.

It takes years as a tech geek to learn most stuff about Bitcoin, and even then you still have lots of things to learn about. The main issue we have is the impossibility of offering a very easy, user-friendly experience. If we can ever achieve the creation of a wallet which could easily be understood by anyone without any kind of crypto knowledge, Bitcoin would be adopted way quicker.

What we see with PayPal, Revolut etc seems nice at a first glance, but if you think about it.. it's not really Bitcoin adoption because people aren't using the real thing. They're in just for the profit. Once we can get at least 1% of the world involved in Bitcoin transactions, BTC will become a very big thing.
1173  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Bitcoin runs off the fumes of fiat. on: December 24, 2020, 09:28:43 AM
So you're back at it with the idea that everyone should be mining the same number of coins at the same time a.k.a. having a wallet linked to the identity of each so that everyone mints "fairly". It wouldn't work. If you think it would, why don't you try building your own coin? Maybe you really have a good idea we can't yet comprehend.

But it's kinda silly to think that an off-grid economy could work solely based on its currency. Bitcoin is linked to USD value because that's the easiest way to determine its value. Back when BTC was created, USD value didn't exist for Bitcoin. It was just the coin and that's it - and the first real life transaction says a lot about that: 10,000 BTC for 1 pizza, not for the USD value of a pizza.

Say miners and electricity could be paid with BTC instead of USD. Well, could the electricity industry and mining production work without fiat? They can't, because at some point fiat is still required. What Bitcoin does is, it gives you an alternative to that. But in the end, we are still living in an enslavement thanks to our system and we still can't completely get rid of it.
1174  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Happiness in bitcoin on: December 24, 2020, 08:58:48 AM
To be honest, it seems easier to lose a Bitcoin than it is to lose a banknote. There are obviously pros and cons, but there is no other advantage better than the fact that Bitcoin gives you a freedom fiat doesn't provide. Also, I wouldn't say Bitcoin is the fastest mean of exchange. I mean, you could hand out a banknote in seconds and there is no "confirmation" needed other than verifying whether the banknote is legit or fake. PayPal transfers are instant. It's just that Bitcoin gives us an independency we've never had before.
1175  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: **Paintings worth $1.2 Billion bought using BTC backed altcoin** on: December 23, 2020, 11:03:08 PM
What are your views on this?
It's a red flag from the start and one should be quite silly (sorry to those who fell for it) to actually believe the story. Who the hell would purchase a painting worth $1.2B through a no-name shitcoin when the tx could be simply done through BTC or other popular coins instead?
1176  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Early signs of crime with bitcoin. on: December 23, 2020, 10:30:53 PM
Well that's really true money laundering is one of the cons of the Bitcoin since anyone can really hide their asset through Bitcoin and we all know that the addresses in bitocin are pseudonymous it can still be traceable. Well we can't really take that fact away from Bitcoin and other cryptocurrency.
It's easier to launder cash than Bitcoin, considering the currently available blockchain analysis tools we have. Criminals will never cease to find ways to do their crimes, be it with or without fiat/crypto's existence. As you said, the addresses are still traceable. Hence, it's actually an advantage for the authorities that they can clearly see who sent coins to who (and how much).
1177  Other / Beginners & Help / Re: Let's talk about Privacy on: December 22, 2020, 11:19:59 PM
this is quite interesting, haven't heard a lot about it before
where can I learn more on the techniques used to spoof ID/fingerprint and improve anonimization?

are these acessible and learnable or too advanced?
I think it's quite easy to learn as a beginner, as long as you read the documentations carefully. I'd advise you to start off by reading the docs from Qubes, Whonix and Tor. If you're interested in BTC anonymity, read Wasabi's documentations as well. These should be more than enough to start off with the privacy & anonymity studying.

If you have hardware you can somewhat trust (RYF-certified hardware should be the best as today we do not have open-source components commercially available yet) running either a free Linux distro (see this list for fully free distros or install a clean Debian which comes without non-free repos) or Qubes, you should be more private than probably >98% of today's PC users.
1178  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Is 2021/2022 going to see a huge boom and crash like 2017 and 2013 on: December 22, 2020, 07:36:21 PM
I really expect that to happen, honestly. It always looks like once a crash begins, everyone jumps into the hole and starts throwing their BTC away. I take this as opportunities though, although last time this happened I did not - and I regret it.

no, i think we are going to see an even bigger one this time.

if you think about it you can see that each time this cycle repeats there are more people who join in compared to the previous one. for instance the first one wasn't as big as the second and the third cycle was a lot bigger.
That makes sense if we look at the numbers OP put up: $1k to $200 is 5x lower; $20k to $3k is almost 7x lower. If that's the case and next crash would be ~10x, then just imagine $50k to $5k. Would be insane.
1179  Other / Beginners & Help / Re: Hope people that give out personal address safe? Ledger wallet users' attacks on: December 22, 2020, 07:21:59 PM
The question is should we follow the security tips from the Ledger company that allowed such a data leak? It seems to me they have no idea how to hide something sensitive and important. The leak of that data may result not only in a loss of funds but also in a loss of someone's lives, which is obviously more important than bitcoins stored on Ledger hardware wallets.
The leak doesn't have anything to do with additional security features their products have. If you're paranoid about their temporary PINs, then there are so many other things you should worry about as well - ending up not owning any hardware at all. They might've had shitty database protection, but their products have been long tested. Still unsure what their Secure Element does though - that is a big question mark for me as well, and it makes me kinda paranoid about its existence.

In my opinion, plausible deniability in such a case won't help since attackers are usually well aware of any tricks that one may come up with a Ledger hardware wallet. You don't think they'll leave you alone after taking your $100, do you? Personally, I doubt it.
Well, if that's the case then they may also not leave you alone even after giving the temporary password. Luck matters here too. If they're ready to take everything from you and leave you without life afterwards, then no matter what you do you'll still have to face death.

It is better to get rid of your Ledger altogether and try to persuade attackers you had sold all stupid bitcoins and stupid hardware wallets because it was dangerous to deal with those after a leak happened. Otherwise, once you show you still have it, you are most likely done.
Quite sure negotiation isn't an option when an attacker is inside your home. You either show it or you don't, they don't have time for stories.

And sure, there's a decent chance that the thief might know about the temporary PIN trick, but it's at least worth trying to pull it off.
Then one could set up multiple temporary PINs - one for cases such as hostage and torture, one for the actual portfolio you own. If someone ever attacks you, show them the main password. If they keep insisting to give away a temporary password as well, give them the one ready specifically for this purpose.
1180  Other / Beginners & Help / Re: Hope people that give out personal address safe? Ledger wallet users' attacks on: December 22, 2020, 09:38:50 AM
The most worrisome thing is that people's physical addresses and phone numbers has been exposed on darkweb hence several people could be in physical danger. Imagine people breaking into your house and threaten the hell out of you to give your recovery phrase or better yet beat it out of you or even harm your family.
This is where adding a temporary PIN code to your Ledger helps a lot. Transfer all your funds except $50-100 to a temporary PIN and if such an attack ever happens, you could get away with a loss of only $50-100 while the remaining majority of your funds will be safe. The thief will think you've given him everything you had, without knowing you also have a hidden account containing the actual portfolio.

To learn more about how a secondary password helps, check out the following link: https://www.ledger.com/academy/passphrase-an-advanced-security-feature
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