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421  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Bitcoin IS anonymous on: August 04, 2011, 05:38:37 AM
i have been trying to tell people, centralization is not the answer a little after i got into bitcoin, i guess it takes this to kick the message in.
422  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: How to find "Tom Williams" ... on: August 04, 2011, 05:25:26 AM

I still consider it a reasonably likely scenario that the site was run by a privacy-advocate/cryptographer  - who has simply died.




should we start trying to crack the private keys then?
423  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: How to find "Tom Williams" ... on: August 04, 2011, 05:05:44 AM
was the entire site really behind tor? if that is the case, i wish you guys the best of luck to find him,
It had a tor hidden service, but was also reachable through normal https... otherwise we wouldn't even know the IP address and hoster.


then what is the problem. the FBI should be able to get his name and such np. unless he used fake details for registration.
424  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: How to find "Tom Williams" ... on: August 04, 2011, 04:56:41 AM
was the entire site really behind tor? if that is the case, i wish you guys the best of luck to find him, otherwise if it wasn't just get the federal bureau of investigation or some other entity that cover cyber crime. they can force the hosting company to reveal the identity of the person/s.  an incident this large is almost certain to get caught. and when he/she is caught, you might be lucky and get all your coins back assuming the logs were still in tact/obtainable, or at least be ordered to pay back the BC.
425  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Deterministic Paper Wallet Generator & Bitcoin Utility for Windows (SOURCE) on: August 04, 2011, 04:39:41 AM
build in some sort of way to generate an actual wallet.dat file. it would probably be easier than trying to edit in an existing wallet.dat. and would probably be safer. also what does WIF mean and what exacly do the arrows do, i type some stuff into the 1st fied and push an arrow and it gives a .net error i guess you call it. otherwise people would just use vanitygen, it makes thousands of addresses a second.
426  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Deterministic Paper Wallet Generator & Bitcoin Utility for Windows (SOURCE) on: August 04, 2011, 04:15:15 AM
Code:
C:\keys>C:\Windows\Microsoft.NET\Framework64\v3.5\csc.exe /out:bitcoinutility.ex
e Bitcoin.cs Form1.cs Form1.designer.cs Program.cs Walletgen.cs Walletgen.Design
er.cs /R:BouncyCastle.Crypto.dll
Microsoft (R) Visual C# 2008 Compiler version 3.5.30729.5420
for Microsoft (R) .NET Framework version 3.5
Copyright (C) Microsoft Corporation. All rights reserved.

Bitcoin.cs(81,17): warning CS0162: Unreachable code detected
Bitcoin.cs(90,21): warning CS0162: Unreachable code detected
Bitcoin.cs(109,17): warning CS0162: Unreachable code detected
Bitcoin.cs(120,17): warning CS0162: Unreachable code detected
Bitcoin.cs(129,21): warning CS0162: Unreachable code detected

C:\keys>

i think its working

i push generate wallet and it seems to work.
427  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Coincidence that 100,000 bitcoins go missing and two days later prices are at $8 on: August 04, 2011, 03:26:40 AM
This correction has been coming for some time now. I think the Mybitcoin incident is just a coincidence.
I think it makes sense. People have been getting a bit scared about how to store their coins. On their PC they could be snatched by trojans, web services snatch the coins for themselves or simply disappear the wallet, and so on. So they sell them...

We really need to make it easier for mainstream folk to secure part of their wallets. Yes, there are a lot of proposals for this, but it'll take some time for trust to be restored.


why do we need to trust people, with bitcoin you do not need to. only trade what you are prepared to loose.
428  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Deterministic Paper Wallet Generator & Bitcoin Utility for Windows (SOURCE) on: August 04, 2011, 03:20:06 AM
some problems

Code:
Microsoft Windows [Version 6.1.7601]
Copyright (c) 2009 Microsoft Corporation.  All rights reserved.

C:\Users\form>cd..

C:\Users>cd..

C:\>cd keys

C:\keys>C:\Windows\Microsoft.NET\Framework64\v3.5\csc.exe /out:bitcoinutility.ex
e Bitcoin.cs Form1.cs Form1.designer.cs Program.cs Walletgen.cs Walletgen.Design
er.cs /R:BouncyCastle.Crypto.dll
Microsoft (R) Visual C# 2008 Compiler version 3.5.30729.5420
for Microsoft (R) .NET Framework version 3.5
Copyright (C) Microsoft Corporation. All rights reserved.

Bitcoin.cs(81,17): warning CS0162: Unreachable code detected
Bitcoin.cs(90,21): warning CS0162: Unreachable code detected
Bitcoin.cs(109,17): warning CS0162: Unreachable code detected
Bitcoin.cs(120,17): warning CS0162: Unreachable code detected
Bitcoin.cs(129,21): warning CS0162: Unreachable code detected

C:\keys>

when i run the program it seems to work okay until i push generate wallet
429  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Deterministic Paper Wallet Generator & Bitcoin Utility for Windows (SOURCE) on: August 04, 2011, 03:10:21 AM
Scam!!!!!

Please point out what line in the source code causes you to truly believe this statement.

Your kidding right?

its obviously satire of the current events with UABB and mybitcoin.

edit: also could you provide bins as well, most people will never go through the trouble to compile this.
430  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Deterministic Paper Wallet Generator & Bitcoin Utility for Windows (SOURCE) on: August 04, 2011, 03:03:14 AM
THANK YOU!!!!!!!!

i am just so happy i almost have tears  Cry
431  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Bitcoin IS anonymous on: August 04, 2011, 02:58:05 AM
if it wasn't, why hasn't anyone identified the stealer of the bitcoins of Allinvain, MyBitcoin and various other hacks?

When the coins at mybitcoin are exchanged for dollars or euros, the identity of whoever converted those coins will be known to the exchange. Until that time, the coins from mybitcoin are exactly where they have always been. There is simply no way (at the moment) for their rightful owners to access them.

not really, they could always dead drop it.
432  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: [UABCI] September 27, 2011 U.S.Department of the Treasury might regulate BitCoin on: August 04, 2011, 02:55:46 AM
You answered your own question. They print it out of thin air. But they need to keep the drug trade going, and oil and gold, and they need to transfer funds between the 3, without it being obvious to all nations, how it's done.
correction, they don't even print it, they simply change a few bits of text in the computer and people accept that as a valid form of payment.
433  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: First we got robbed by mybitcoin and now I got robbed by Bitlaundry. on: August 04, 2011, 02:54:22 AM
it takes several days if you are using http://xuie7qspblyer5ms.onion/

i am not sure if the same applies to that service.
434  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: [UABCI] September 27, 2011 U.S.Department of the Treasury might regulate BitCoin on: August 04, 2011, 02:46:48 AM
I understood the main reason for this legislation was to close the anonymous pre-paid phone accounts... that is they are not happy that you can use a phone without it being tied to your name/address. The whole thing is silly, however, as those with criminal intent will just use others credentials to purchase.



I don't think that's what it is. Anyone can get a Metro PCS phone without ID. I think it's the fact that stored value cards are used to launder drug money. The Treasury issued a Memorandum about this a few years back. They claimed it was the number one way people were avoiding taxes and laundering drug money.

legalize drugs.

reasons: less money spent on catching criminals and keeping them locked up.
heavily tax the drugs, they would still be cheaper than off the street.

tada! half the money laundering is now gone.

ctoon6, you're probably a very smart person, so I wonder why you have not figured this out yet.
Banks and Drug laws exist to work hand in hand together. Banks would not exist, if there were no drugs which were illegal to launder money through. There would be no need for banks if drugs were legal. Banks were created to serve the purpose of laundering the opium profits and returning the Britsh pound to gold to pay the opium farmers because all they accept for payment is gold. Elementary Watson
i find the argument that banks only make money and exist through laundering money hard to believe. although it would not surprise me much if someone did present proof unless it already does exist and i do not know of it. but even so, you can launder money way cheaper in bitcoin than through a "real" bank. and that would make banks not make as much money, although i have no idea why they would need to do it in the first place, at least in the current day US. Though FRB banks make money out of thin air anyway.
435  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: [UABCI] September 27, 2011 U.S.Department of the Treasury might regulate BitCoin on: August 04, 2011, 02:37:26 AM
I understood the main reason for this legislation was to close the anonymous pre-paid phone accounts... that is they are not happy that you can use a phone without it being tied to your name/address. The whole thing is silly, however, as those with criminal intent will just use others credentials to purchase.



I don't think that's what it is. Anyone can get a Metro PCS phone without ID. I think it's the fact that stored value cards are used to launder drug money. The Treasury issued a Memorandum about this a few years back. They claimed it was the number one way people were avoiding taxes and laundering drug money.

legalize drugs.

reasons: less money spent on catching criminals and keeping them locked up.
heavily tax the drugs, they would still be cheaper than off the street.

tada! half the money laundering is now gone.

We can't have them competing with Big Pharma now can we...

Seriously I agree with you in all points... the problem is there is no organized bribery... I mean lobby group for the "illicit" drug sellers.
The only people that would not go for my plan are the retarded private prisons and the people who go with the argument "then everyone would do it". in fact the big pharmacies would MAKE MORE MONEY. they could sell the drugs in greater volume.
436  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: [UABCI] September 27, 2011 U.S.Department of the Treasury might regulate BitCoin on: August 04, 2011, 02:29:49 AM
I understood the main reason for this legislation was to close the anonymous pre-paid phone accounts... that is they are not happy that you can use a phone without it being tied to your name/address. The whole thing is silly, however, as those with criminal intent will just use others credentials to purchase.



I don't think that's what it is. Anyone can get a Metro PCS phone without ID. I think it's the fact that stored value cards are used to launder drug money. The Treasury issued a Memorandum about this a few years back. They claimed it was the number one way people were avoiding taxes and laundering drug money.

legalize drugs.

reasons: less money spent on catching criminals and keeping them locked up.
heavily tax the drugs, they would still be cheaper than off the street.

tada! half the money laundering is now gone.
437  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: [UABCI] September 27, 2011 U.S.Department of the Treasury might regulate BitCoin on: August 04, 2011, 02:26:29 AM
I think its time we set up a decentralized information network with wireless mesh.
438  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Bitcoin IS anonymous on: August 04, 2011, 02:11:31 AM
if they used a good laundering service, you would never know for sure.
439  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Coincidence that 100,000 bitcoins go missing and two days later prices are at $8 on: August 04, 2011, 02:07:17 AM
I like this tin foil hat theory and subscribe to it now I have heard it.  Except the end part where they try and legitimize it.  

I modified it somewhat to keep it a bit more coherent.

I'm fully convinced that Bitcoin will never be made illegal, because it is a fiscally-sound currency that no one knows about. It can still be legitimized and used to back any country's current currency. The first countries to adopt Bitcoin as the financial backing for their own currency will have the most fiscally-sound currency in the future.

Look at the countries who still buy and add to their gold reserves. They aren't having problems the others are. The US stops buying and what happens? QE1? QE2? Debt-limit debates?

you cant force out anonymity. i can run my client through tor and exchange federal reserve notes in person or through dead dropping. the use of tracphones and third party phone line encrypters. you can also use an open wifi or hack into one. i think tracfones also allow internet access. so maby some phones would have a hotspot sort of thing. but whatever, as long as you have cash you can be almost 95% anonymous on the internet.

Sure you can, look how they force anonymity out of cash. Require any "legitimate" enterprise (including all mining pools and banks) to report holdings and the names of the individuals doing business with them. The only increased step here would be to require online retailers to also require reporting, if they even cared what you were spending your Bitcoin on. You'll have to turn to the black market to get your currency converted, but what is so beautiful about Bitcoin is it actually keeps track of exactly where the money came from, if you send coins to a known pot dealer's Bitcoin address, you're busted. The only people that couldn't be traced will be solo miners, but the system is designed to discourage solo mining, so it won't matter.

The only counter I can see to this sort of a system is like an anonymous pooled mining operation, but such a thing would be ridiculously difficult to pull off, and nearly impossible to keep legitimate the more regulations that get piled on over the years. The value of Bitcoin rises a little when they "legitimize" it, so some people will whine, but the people holding and promoting BTC (even the most hardcore libertarians) won't demonize their precious Bitcoin as a whole, because they own a lot of it and they want to see it increase in value. So the government will add a little bit more regulation, making it safer, increasing the value, and causing a few complaints. Rinse, repeat. Do this twenty years. Remember, governments have time on their side, they'll be around long after we're all dead.

I'm willing to bet 10 BTC that within two years all US-based mining pools will require identification of miners operating on their pool in order to satisfy government regulations.

tor

if you run the entire mining operating in tor, they don't know you, and you don't know them. tor is the solution to almost any problem to do with bitcoin and anonymity, aside from trust.
440  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: UABB is a... on: August 04, 2011, 02:02:29 AM
The UABB is about a week old and hasn't even opened its door yet. That's the ironic part of all this. It's kind of silly to be calling something a scam before it's even operational if you ask me.

all i ask for is proof that you or the UABB can be trusted. you provide none, and the other "businesses" in this sector have proven they also can not be trusted, why are you different. why would i want to brand my name with yours. if it did turn out that the UABB could not be trusted, i would forever tarnish my name, why would i risk that.

Remember, I'm the OP (Phinnaeus Gage--not my real name) and that you're asking Matthew with UABB this question. I don't want my name (even if it's a fake one) tarnished if by chance I'm on the wrong side of this issue. I do feel you have some valid points.

http://www.electronic-battle-weapons.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/07/Nothing-Worse-Than-A-Bad-Rap.jpg
If i don't brand myself with UABB the worst that happens is that people with common sense would see that i do have only positive feedback even though i only do small trades. if i were a real business, which i guess this is targeted to, i would never want to associate myself with someone who pretty much half the community thinks is a fraud, even if this were not true. if i stay independent only i affect my rep. why would i brand myself with some random business that thinks they have authority and trust, and it turned out they were just looking for a quick buck and accept anyone to be "accredited".
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