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41  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Stopping the curse of losing streak? on: May 03, 2024, 11:28:54 AM
Switching to other games is good as long as you still have bankroll, jumping from one games to another will refresh your mind and you will not feel boring while gamble. But if people switch games in order to earn money and thinking the current games have no luck due to they ever win big, it's really wrong.

Gambling is just one of many ways to entertain, taking a break for few days or weeks aren't wrong if you're still emotional with previous losing streaks.

Yes it is true that switching games may be able to refresh the mind as you said because I also sometimes often do that when I play in online casinos especially in slot games which when I see the spin of the game looks to drain my balance very quickly then usually I will switch to some other game that is more fun and that has a spin that is not too bad so that my gambling session can last longer and I can feel the pleasure that is also longer, But of course if the purpose of switching games is to get a win and assume that the new game you choose 90% can bring victory then obviously as you say that is a big mistake, however and wherever you play it is always recommended not to put too much hope on winning because usually this mindset will only make us feel more disappointed and sorry when it turns out that the results are not what we want.

Exactly, gambling is nothing more than an entertainment activity like any other but perhaps the difference is that you have to spend money as capital to be able to engage in gambling without having excessive expectations of winning and I would say that the best approach to gambling is to think that the money you spend is money to pay for the game you have played and enjoyed, and not as capital to be multiplied.
42  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Have you achieved anything from gambling on: May 03, 2024, 10:17:10 AM

Making money from gambling is a complex activity, but unlike roulette, where almost everything is decided by luck, in sports betting you can independently decide on which outcome you want to bet on and the probability of winning is higher (especially if you bet on an event no more than with two outcomes). But to make money in gambling you need to have discipline, nerves of steel, the ability to manage finances and analyze events. For the vast majority of players, this is too difficult a task.

It's hard for an online casino to become a money-making machine unless you command luck to be with you every time you gamble so that you always win, but there is nothing like this in gambling.

Then there's one more thing I can't say yet: I've been addicted to gambling. Let's say it's the investment I want to make because of my gambling. In reality, it is still very difficult to get lucky in gambling, and most of the time we always lose in gambling.

The truth is that no matter where you gamble, in online or physical casinos, the name of gambling activities can never be used as a money-making machine, I understand that gambling has a chance of winning that can give you a large amount of winnings possible but what we must understand is that there is absolutely no guarantee or certainty at the beginning to be able to tell you that you will be able to win at the end of the session, It's all about luck and it means as you say that we will always be able to make a win if we can command luck to always come but the fact is that luck can never be known when it comes and this is why I often mention that actually the victory that you managed to get is nothing more than a victory that came by "chance".

This means that something that is only based on luck to produce will never be able to give you consistent results because after all your wins only happen by chance. I would say that no matter who you are and how you gamble, you will not be able to make the winnings come your way in the end, and this is why a gambler should never put too much hope in winning because in the end you will just lose a lot of money slowly.
43  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Never gamble in front of your kids. on: May 03, 2024, 10:00:16 AM
if you want to have a good family I don't think that is good for you to be gambling in the presence of your children, for my own understanding I think it is it disrespect to the home because, your children will you be following your step knowing that children come emulate very fast from what their parents he doing discuss more of gambling to if not good in presence of your children because they may grab the information of a government, so from my own understanding it is not fair to teach your children a gambling because that will make a children to steal
Well except the man of the house is okay for his kids to grow up seeing gambling as part of their  lives.
Kids are fast learners, very inquisitive and develops sudden interests in things they see their parents or guardians doing, so it's your duty as a parent to sort the information you expose to your children.
As a gambler who knows the risks attached to gambling, who also knows that it takes a great deal of self control and finance management to not fall prey to the deadly stings of gambling addiction. There's no way kids could possibly possess such level of responsibility so it's best never to even expose them to it at all.

Yes, this situation can only happen when the head of the family or their parents really don't mind their children living with a gambling atmosphere, but I think no matter how bad my parents are, they definitely don't want their children to be their successors in terms of negative habits such as gambling, And I think maybe you often hear about parents including my own parents who always say that they don't want me to grow up to be someone who fails in any case and this is also the reason why usually parents always prioritize their children in any case so that they can become useful and useful people who can make their parents proud such as in terms of education and also we often hear that both parents always pray for their children to become successful people when they grow up.

While there is absolutely nothing to be proud of by having a habit of gambling, because after all it is a risky activity that will only lose your money slowly and I am sure that both parents must know about the bad of gambling especially when someone has entered into addiction, so of course I think the majority of parents would not want their children to get involved in gambling.
44  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Streamers using demo account on: May 03, 2024, 09:39:51 AM
How true is this rumor? This is very popular on our local streamer comment section that streamers is just using a demo account with enhance winning rate on all slot games to showcase huge win while they are playing.

I knew that only slot game provider has the power to change the RTP of the slot games but some of the comment is from other streamers that has same experience on using demo account.



This issue is not new to us, it has been spreading for a long time because other former streamers have released the truth about this, the majority of streamers who have a contract with online casinos are given set up accounts to make the content more convincing once they play it in their live streamin. of course if people can only watch winning, there is a good chance that more people will join, right? this is also a good side for streamers because they will earn money when a lot of people use their referral codes, that's why most of the people who attract other streamers are beginners and young people, the ones they can easily fool.

That's right, I believe you about what the former stremer told me, they are promoting by using an account that has been set up behind the scenes by the casino which I am sure that the casino organizes everything especially to make the winnings easier to get by the stremer when they are doing video shows.

And the other thing is that winning in gambling is money and everyone needs money and as we know that most people are very easily tempted by something that is instant but makes a large amount of money, at least they will definitely be tempted or tempted and then try it and usually the victims are those beginners who are still new and don't know much about how gambling actually is, or most likely the victims will be people who really need money in an urgent time which makes them sometimes able to justify all means to get money, one of which they might be very easy to try gambling and hope that they will be able to get a win according to what the stremers get.
45  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: You can not win if you do not risk on: May 03, 2024, 09:19:06 AM
If you do not risky, you can not make money. But in gambling, risk what that you can afford to lose. Do not gamble because you want to make money, just gamble for fun.

Many might still believe that a gamblers who's just gambling at the first day might end up winning w huge amount of money that he wasn't expecting but the truth is that as long as you stake on bet you have already risk your money, be it big or small.
Do not believe this. Some gamblers will gamble at first and lose from the first time. I have friends that won the first day that they gamble and I saw friends that lost the first day that they gamble. I even have a close friend that gamble and lose on the first day and not gambling again.

I know, and I believe that it's really better to just play gambling with the only motive being to have fun. Because if a gambler hopes to hit the casino jackpot, he usually ends up losing.

And the others who only think about having fun are the ones who often get lucky when they play gambling. Is that right? I have experienced this many times, and probably the same is true of other gamblers.

Yups right, there is nothing better than making gambling just an activity to seek pleasure or entertainment, I'm not saying that you will win but what is certain is that when you have the intention to earn then obviously I'm sure that the number of attempts you make will definitely be quite excessive while winning always depends on your luck so that means when you gamble excessively because you want to make a lot of money with the jackpot then in the end the amount you lose will definitely be far greater than the win.

On the other hand I can't answer about whether having the intention to have fun can make you get lucky more often or not, because in my opinion anyway the casino will not make anything as a benchmark to bring you to win more often, including the intention and purpose of having fun, in the end it's still if the time you lose, you will lose, And I would say that one of the benefits of having an intention to have fun is that you don't overdo gambling and that can make it likely that the number of losses you will lose will be smaller than when you gamble with the intention of earning which is certainly the number of tries you will have more often.
46  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: UEFA Champions League 2023/24 Season on: May 02, 2024, 06:51:26 PM
Borussia Dortmund won the UEFA Champions League semifinal first leg 1-0 against Paris Saint-Germain (PSG) on yesterday. Dortmund's German forward Niclas Fullkrug netted the winning goal at home, Signal Iduna Park, in the 36th minute. The second leg will be held at Parc Des Princes on Tuesday. Lucas Hernández, who was injured during the UEFA Champions League match between Borussia Dortmund and Paris Saint-Germain, suffered an anterior cruciate ligament rupture in his left knee. I wish you get well soon.
Fresh air is now on Borussia Dortmund's side after they managed to win the match in the first leg. The reason is that before this first leg took place, many people made Paris Saint Germain the main favorite to beat and eliminate Borussia Dortmund in the semifinals of this season's Champions League. However, the results of the match in the first leg turned things around in favor of Borussia Dortmund.

However, they have to be careful in the second leg, because Paris Saint Germain also lost first in the quarter-finals before they were finally able to destroy Barcelona 4-1 in the second leg. Even though Borussia Dortmund also recorded a comeback in the quarter-finals, it is still because in the second leg Paris Saint Germain will be the host. It is not easy to predict matches in the Champions League, especially since this is the semifinals where the 4 clubs here are the best clubs who can eliminate their opponents from the start of the group.
47  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: UEFA Europa League 2023/24 Season on: May 02, 2024, 06:32:28 PM
At the moment both teams have a very good performance so it is very difficult for us to be able to predict who the team will win, but I think the experience and also the intelligence possessed by Alonso strategy so far might be the difference in the match, so far I see Leverkusen has a bigger mentality than Roma, so I think Leverkusen will be able to win the first leg even though they will play at home to Roma today.
I believe in Leverkusen's extraordinary mentality. They managed to comeback against Stuttgart. At that time everyone thought Leverkusen would lose for the first time this season but surprisingly they managed to equalize the score in the final seconds of the match. I think we can't take data from the previous season because at that time AS Roma with Mourinho and Leverkusen were not coached by Xabi Alonso. There are a lot of differences this season to last season and I think Leverkusen have improved a lot. AS Roma have a good record at home therefore I think the match will end in a draw.
Maybe this match will end in a draw, because it is difficult to predict who will win in a match like this. However, I make Leverkusen the favorite to win, because their performance this season is very promising, and if we compare it with AS Roma, then we already know who is better if we look at their performance throughout the season, be it in the domestic league or abroad. here.

Xabi Alonso is eyeing the title in the Europa League after they managed to become champions in the Bundesliga by forcefully snatching it from the hands of Bayern Munich who had defended the title for many seasons. With their results in the domestic league, mentally Leverkusen should also have a better mentality than As Roma, especially since they now only have one focus, namely the European League, unlike AS Roma who still have to compete in Serie A to get the best place at the end. season. The pressure is on AS Roma in my opinion.
48  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Who should quit, and why? on: May 02, 2024, 01:55:16 PM
Hey house someone need a few clips here, don't know if a post of this exact nature has been discussed though.

In a situation where the both spouse are gamblers. Husband gambles, wife gambles, how can both of them manage the situation in terms of finance and the family affairs especially when children are now involve so that the time both spends on gambling doesn't affect family moments and affairs in general.

Would it help if  one of the couple quit for the other and if that's the case who should quit for who.
It is normal that both husband and wife of a family can be gamblers together but if there are children in that family, it becomes unusual for parents to participate in gambling as guardians. So an ideal guardian should exempt either parent from gambling. Especially the mother is more close to the child so an ideal mother will sometimes ruin the child's future, the mother should first refrain from gambling, then the father will control himself from gambling after understanding the situation. But if that family is dependent on gambling and runs the family from the money earned from gambling then parents should not participate in gambling in front of the child for the time being.
It's very bad for both husband's and wife's to gamble even when they don't have children, gamble might be a thing of fun to them but don't I think we should all get it right that gamble is a thing one should enjoy, so if a whole family especially husband and wife, they might have problems with their gambling habits. If they gamble and their children is also aware that they gamble it will be very bad for the children because the children will try gambe some day and the children will be worst than their parents, some people are into gamble today because their friends or someone from their family made them to.

Right, anyway it's best that both of them don't get involved or stop being involved in gambling, we don't need to look at who should stop between the wife or the husband and it doesn't matter even if you don't have children yet the best option is to stop gambling completely, on the other hand I understand that maybe it's a difficult decision to follow but anyway it's the best. I think it's a fact that there's going to be some money spent on gambling and obviously if they both quit gambling then they can save more money and use it for other more important needs. And on the other hand you also mentioned about the possibility that when they have a child there is a possibility that the child will be infected with the gambling habits of the parents, and that could threaten the future and personality of the child, and honestly I can't imagine what the situation would be if the whole family was involved in gambling, losing the financial balance in the family is a certainty.
49  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Use your winning responsibly on: May 02, 2024, 01:35:33 PM

After every win there's this drive that comes that looks like satisfaction and the sense of been right enough to want to venture into a second trial with the mind that you are most definitely going to be lucky again having knowing the tactics with which you can actually get to staying profitable enough and that drive tends to keep some persons stucked such that they would want to have a second trial till they get to exhaust that which they have won especially of they are unable to eventually get to control their selves well enough.

Some gamblers aren't disciplined enough to want to quit once they find out they have won probably the greed and insatiable want to crave and believe they can get more will keep driving them to keep playing and not seeing it as been greedy.
The player will always have a desire to play more, when we lose, we think about playing again and winning back, or when we win, we think about how lucky we are, and want to play again. But this concerns discipline, it would be better if the player stops on time, spending a long time in gambling will not lead to anything good. For everything there must be limits of what is acceptable, if you follow them, everything will be fine.

Yes that's true, but I don't think you can assume that all gamblers are like that and maybe I'll distill it down that there are some gamblers who treat gambling like you said where they have the desire to play more and when they lose they will be more aggressive in treating gambling with the intention and purpose of returning something that was lost before because they don't have the ability to accept the fact of losing and this is a typical gambler who comes with the intention and purpose of earning which they don't know that in the end their actions will only lead them to a lot of downfall.

Overall yes of course it is better to have a moderate approach to gambling, meaning knowing when to start and when to stop but I think this approach should always start with the right mindset and understanding of what gambling is, because it is useless if for example from the beginning all you know is that gambling can produce wins then it is still difficult for you to be able to treat gambling as suggested, This means that this is why I often advise beginners to first consider and understand gambling as a whole, because if you are wrong in understanding what gambling is actually about then obviously in the end you will find it difficult to do the recommended things that lead to your own good, because I believe you only focus on one thing, namely "multiplying".
50  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Double your money and quite on: May 02, 2024, 01:16:13 PM
~snip~
Two things always make a gambler lose a lot of money, first is their greed, and the second is them having no control over their emotions and chasing their losses.

When a gambler becomes greedy, they gamble even when they have already won some money, and when they do that, they even lose what they must have won already, and that isn't what one would like to experience.

When a gambler loses control over their emotions, they start chasing their losses and we all know what happens when a gambler tries to recover their losses, they eventually lose everything they have.

You are so right, and that's the thing, the gambler will try to make more and more money when in reality they will lose and lose more and more money.

They will come back and try to "win back" their money, but in reality they will just spend all their money.

Yups that's right, it really happens in gambling and I will say that usually they are typical gamblers who come and get involved with no proper understanding of how winning and losing works, they don't know that actually winning is nothing more than a "chance" and only depends on luck which means that it cannot be sure that you will really be able to succeed in achieving the victory you want unless luck comes at the right time, while losing is something that will definitely happen when luck really doesn't come.

However gambling can never be used as a place to earn which is one of the reasons we obviously never know about what will happen at the end of the session, I will not say that you will always lose but what is certain is that luck will not always come according to what you want while when you gamble with the intention and purpose of earning more then obviously I can already ensure that the number of attempts you make will be more which in the end of course instead of getting a bigger win but what happens is the number of defeats that dominate and this is also the reason why we are always prohibited from chasing losses.
51  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Does gambling excites you ? on: May 02, 2024, 12:51:26 PM

Of course, winning at gambling will be much more fun but we must realizes that we can't always wins in gambling. We can lose much money if we don't realizes and can' control ourselves when playing gambling. We must thinks about how long we can playing gambling and if we thinks that playing gambling is exciting, we don't have to chase the win instead just to feels the games. If we can enjoy the games, we will feels excited but if not, we will only becomes angry and once that happens, we will lose the enjoyment and maybe we lose the money too. We don't have to bet more money to feels excited in gambling because enough money that we can afford to lose, we can feels excited too. What we needs to do is just to control ourselves and not use too much money to playing gambling. Otherwise, we will lose that money without have a chance to gets the money back.

Yup! that's why it is better to know everything about gambling first before deciding entering this game. Winning in gambling is a real fun and a kind of achievement for me because I'm aware that whenever I gamble, i rarely win no matter how many skills and experiences I have. Just like others, doing gambling games is a challenging game for me because this is where I test my patience and luck.When doing gambling, know that we need to become aware on our spending habits because gambling will trick you, you'll never know that you are already running out of money because of the excitement that you've felt.

I agree with you that one of the ways that can make us avoid bad possibilities such as experiencing a significant amount of loss in gambling is to first understand what gambling really is and how winning and losing works in it which this should be done from the beginning of the involvement because this understanding will be an important thing useful for you to be a basis for rational decision making. Yes gambling should be considered as an activity that is only for fun, meaning that when you win then you should not allow your mind to think that gambling can be used as a place to earn, you must really stay in awareness and realize that winning in gambling is nothing more than a lucky situation which means you managed to win because you were lucky. On the other hand, there is nothing wrong with using gambling as an activity to test the skills of patience and self-control that we have, and the other thing is that I agree with you that we must really apply caution, vigilance and also maintain awareness when we are gambling, because of course there are enough gamblers who fall into unconsciousness and put more money which in the end they regret.
52  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Do you care about what people say about you gambling? on: May 02, 2024, 12:31:46 PM
I think it depends on the person themselves whether they will care or not about whatever is said by others regarding themselves being involved in gambling, if for example they are one of those people who are easily provoked or easily disturbed by anything, especially criticism from some people who come maybe yes, obviously they will feel disturbed and this is sometimes we are often advised to hide our gambling activities.

But in my opinion there is actually no need to care too much about what other people say regarding whatever you do, just let them comment on anything because anyway you gamble using your own money which means you don't harm anyone, but on the other hand I think you can only ignore some criticism that is not important or means useless, so in any case it is always recommended to look at or respond to everything rationally because only in this way can you distinguish whether other people's criticism is useful for your good or is something that is not important. 


Gambling is not wrong, that means it's useless to worry about what people say regarding my gambling habit. It's a matter of personal perspectives from non gamblers who see gambling as something wrong. However, when they tend to criticize a player it'll be right for the gambler to have a conversation with the critic to understand why he's still thinking of gamblers as irresponsible. Gone are the days when people reasoned of gamblers in such a manner. Hence, it's crucial that the critic learns something new after the conversation with the gambler.

Some of them also wants to become gamblers but are afraid of joining the niche. Due to negative things they've heard about gambling. Although, such thoughts doesn't help enough in stopping people from gambling. Nobody cares about those critics and their wrong perspectives. Once a gambler is not compulsive he's fine and is not meant to bother about what people would say about him. Sometimes close friends would be surprised to learn about our involvement in gambling yet it's not a big deal to bother or worry about. Addiction is the only thing a player should avoid not being a victim.

Yes but however it is a fact that most people have a negative perspective on gambling which makes them have a negative perspective on people who are involved in gambling so that criticism appears, I don't know what the problem is but what is certain is that society only sees as a whole about the bad behavior of a gambler who has entered the addiction phase, even though basically for example you are not one of the addicted gamblers but still people will not believe it.

On the other hand I don't know whether what you said is true or not about those who like to criticize actually want to be involved in gambling or not, but certainly one of the reasons they criticize others who are involved in gambling is because they really think that gambling is an activity that is prohibited or that must be avoided and with this then I think it is unlikely that they want to get involved. At the end of the day yes obviously whoever you are if you are involved in gambling then yes there might always be some people who criticize but as I said earlier that we don't need to care too much about it and one of my suggestions is that you better keep your gambling habits a secret to avoid the criticism and the other thing is always listen and apply some of the best advice from people to implement many precautions so that we can avoid the possibility of addiction.
53  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Does gambling excites you ? on: May 01, 2024, 01:41:15 PM
Does gambling excites you? What motivates you, winning or just the fun in it ?
Not all the time. I have more excitement when I am with friends and gamble together on a casino or gambling site. Being with them makes it more exciting. But not that gambling is not giving me excitement but not as when someone can gamble together with me. But sometimes when I feel bored but feel like to be alone, I can gamble and also I gamble during weekends which are exciting though.
Gambling doesn't always excite me but sometimes when I'm depressed or have a lot of free time I feel that gambling can give me a peace. but even more excited than me are those who use gambling seriously for income. But gambling should not be a series.  People who get too excited about gambling become addicted to gambling and cannot stop gambling. So gambling should be taken as entertainment only for fun. otherwise gambling alone is enough to ruin a person's life

That's right, I also feel the same as you, that gambling is not always exciting or fun, but sometimes it can make us feel happy or entertained when we come or gamble at the right time. I usually feel pleasure when I have a lot of free time. full of boredom that I usually feel when I'm on the weekend. And I would say that this is actually the real benefit of gambling when you treat gambling in the right way or approach.

But on the other hand, it is a fact that gambling can be an activity that can trigger a lot of problems and most gamblers experience this where they experience a lot of financial problems in their lives and it is not uncommon for them to even experience family breakdown due to the impact of treating gambling in this way. wrong.

Usually the people who end up with a lot of setbacks are gamblers who come with the intention and purpose of making a profit, with a mindset like this, it is clear, as you said, that they will definitely have high enthusiasm and prioritize gambling in their lives, in the end It is clear as you suggest that gambling should not be used as a place to make money because it is an idea that will only lead you to more disasters, in fact it is true that there is no other approach and point of view on gambling other than just responding and considering that gambling is nothing more than just an activity for fun, because only this approach can keep us awake and avoid bad possibilities such as addiction.
54  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Do you care about what people say about you gambling? on: May 01, 2024, 01:05:00 PM
I think it depends on the person themselves whether they will care or not about whatever is said by others regarding themselves being involved in gambling, if for example they are one of those people who are easily provoked or easily disturbed by anything, especially criticism from some people who come maybe yes, obviously they will feel disturbed and this is sometimes we are often advised to hide our gambling activities.

But in my opinion there is actually no need to care too much about what other people say regarding whatever you do, just let them comment on anything because anyway you gamble using your own money which means you don't harm anyone, but on the other hand I think you can only ignore some criticism that is not important or means useless, so in any case it is always recommended to look at or respond to everything rationally because only in this way can you distinguish whether other people's criticism is useful for your good or is something that is not important. 
55  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Gambling Wins: Your Money Was Returned to You. on: May 01, 2024, 11:19:22 AM

Yeah, this is really true.

It's all designed to be like that really.

It's all fun and games while playing, but withdrawing the money is boring, like sobering up kind of feeling. Most people would like to continue the fun party and keep pressing buttons or gambling until they are basically empty handed.

Similar to eating problems, many people can't stop eating say a bag of chips until they are all gone.
Yes, the same scenario as being unsatisfied with how much winning they have. They will continue to gamble as much as they feel they can win more. Especially that the more winnings they have, the greedier they've become and stay to gamble until they no longer have money. Instead of enjoying the amount of current winnings they have, they think of wanting more winnings, such a common big mistake of most gamblers.

Yes, that's true, but in the end it is clear that they will end up with a million regrets because no matter how greedy they are in gambling, it will never work, and what will happen is that they will only lose the amount of money they won.
won before. I understand that everyone needs money but we also have to be able to respond or respond to things with a healthy and rational mindset, this is gambling where the final session will always be about winning or losing, meaning when you return to continue the session with a greater amount of risk in order to pursue a much bigger win, it is very possible for you to end up losing.

On the other hand, I am not saying that you cannot win according to your wishes, but what is certain is that you have to reconsider yourself regarding this decision and make sure that whatever happens, you have to agree with yourself to take responsibility for the results, especially when the results turn out to be at the end of the session. not according to what you expected. So actually, in my opinion, this is an option, if for example you are not ready to lose all the winnings you have earned then it is clearly better to withdraw immediately, but if for example you are very curious and want to go back to look for bigger wins then you must be able to take responsibility for whatever the results are. , but I think overall it is very unlikely that they will be able to take responsibility for their decisions.
56  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Gambling mistake repeated by the gamblers on: May 01, 2024, 09:30:25 AM

It's hard when a gambler already has a misconception of what gambling really is and it's usually this misconception that makes gamblers fall into addiction unconsciously, and their mistake is always about assuming that gambling can be used as a place to earn while the facts about gambling can never support the intention and purpose of earning because the name of victory in gambling is nothing more than a “possibility” which in addition there is absolutely no certainty and any guarantee to ensure that you will be able to end the session with a win.

Yup, that kind of misconception as they think that they can quickly make money if luck permits them, they will keep on pushing and digging for that luck to com forward and let them win decently, though most of the time, even luck permits them they tend to keep aiming for more instead of taking that advantage to quit and enjoy their earnings.

Yes and I would say that usually this misconception starts when they see people including some of their close friends who managed to win big in gambling which motivates them to participate and get involved in gambling in the hope of getting the same winnings that others managed to get, which means from this alone we can conclude that they come with the intention and purpose to produce the following and also only focus on winning which is where this mindset can make them rule out other aspects of gambling that can never be avoided such as the risk of losing, meaning that they misunderstand and think that gambling may only be about winning opportunities when it is the opposite where the possibility of losing has a much higher percentage, so it is natural that for example they experience a lot of losses because victory will only come when they are lucky.

I think in the end it is just a matter of time, because as you said they are difficult to tell which sometimes your suggestions and input can make them feel annoyed which in turn causes problems, so it is useless if we care too much about them because they also do not care about themselves and their own safety. On the other hand it is good to tell or advise them or direct them to things that can prevent them from bad possibilities but in the end it is difficult to make them really believe in our words and suggestions, which in the end yes as I said above that maybe this is just a matter of time which over time they will also definitely feel or experience the bad effects of treating gambling in the wrong way.

It's good to provide advise, but there's no assurance that those people will listen, even how close you are to them there's still a big chance that will just follow whatever they think is better for them.

True, basically there is nothing wrong with giving advice or input to them because after all we are trying to help them to at least avoid other bad possibilities in gambling, but in the end it's up to them, if for example they don't want to listen and always maintain their mindset and beliefs which actually will only harm themselves then it doesn't matter because at least we have given our best by trying to help.
57  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Rich or poor gambler, who should risk more? on: May 01, 2024, 09:05:06 AM
Gambling an activity for fun also has the chance to turn someone's fortune. Calculated risk when taken in gambling can be the way to big wins from gambling. Who do you think should take more risk in gambling? The rich gambler or the gambler who is not yet rich. If a rich gambler takes risks in gambling, they are risking losing money and becoming poor from gambling, or getting richer, when a gambler who is not yet rich gambles, they can also get poorer or richer, so the gambler who should take the risk should be the gambler who can handle the dangers of the risk like losing too. When a rich gambler loses from taking a risk, there is a better chance of them being in a position to manage with the losses, than someone struggling financially who a big loss will really affect. So, I am confused after asking myself this question and answering it, does this mean a poor gambler should continue to play it safe in gambling? With no risk, how can a poor gambler change their fortune in gambling?
Gambling is not measured by being rich or poor, most times the poor can risk more than the rich and sometimes the rich can also risk more than the poor depending on their individual mindset and level of risk they want to take. In life risk does not know the rich and the poor, because the higher the risk the more the outcome and it might be either negative or positive, so the only solution when it comes to gambling is to risk the amount that you can afford to lose as a gambler so as not to go bankrupt. sometimes greed and envy will not allow gamblers to risk the amount to that they can afford to lose because they want to win big.

lastly , op replying to your question about the rich and the poor who should risk more in gambling, gambling here is a game of luck and chance and no one knows the games , however any one can risk any amount that he or she can afford to lose.


Well, right, I agree with your income and we think in this matter which in common sense can ensure that gambling is not measured from rich or poor, one of the reasons is because anyone involved in gambling will have the same possibility, especially in terms of Loss of money, logically as rich as you are, but if you have the wrong approach to gambling, it is clear that in the end you will end up being a poor person because treating gambling in the wrong way will usually make you lose money in greater amounts than the victory.

On the other hand we must understand that victory is no more than just "opportunity" which means there is absolutely no guarantee that you will be able to win whatever the level of risk you take, and as we see that quite a lot of gamblers suffer from loss of money in large amounts And that is those who are always excessive in treating gambling activities, one of which is gambling with a large level of risk. In the end it is clear as you suggest that there is nothing better than gambling by putting the amount that we are able to be held accountable because no matter how big the amount you allocate it still cannot be made as a guarantee to win, and I am sure that all gamblers are not Like the name of losing money especially in large quantities, so try to respond to everything rationally so that you are not wrong in making decisions.
58  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Can gambling addiction lead to domestic violence? on: April 30, 2024, 03:55:55 PM
Overall and in common sense I think it is quite reasonable to say that there is a high possibility for an addicted gambler to abuse one of his family members such as his wife or child, but maybe yes this is also quite dependent on the person because it cannot be denied that there may be some addicted gamblers who have a patient personality and can still control their emotions, but yes we cannot rule out another fact that there will always be addicted gamblers who cannot hold their emotions especially when they experience defeat which makes them really feel devastated.

On the other hand, to be honest, lately I also often see couples who divorce and the cause is that one of them is involved in gambling which has entered the addiction phase which as we know that addiction can cause a lot of problems, if you are married then most likely treating gambling in an excessive manner as is done by addicted gamblers will certainly cause problems with finances in your family where most likely you will have difficulty making ends meet which usually situations like this can cause arguments between you and your partner to violence.
59  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Gambling addiction causes loss on: April 30, 2024, 03:17:55 PM
-   Even if you don't have an addiction, you will still lose; even the newbie often loses or can often win if you always get lucky. That's the world of gambling; that's why it's called gambling.
However there's also the instances where you have unnecessary losses. Like impulsive bets because you can't control yourself or just because of excitement. For example, you're already done for the day because you already meet your quota. But since strikes you, you played again and bet again. Then you lose. And you try to get what you lose and instead of getting back, you lose more. That's where addiction cause more losses.

Yes and usually it is a behavior that exists in someone who has entered the addiction phase or those who are involved or view gambling as a place to earn, and maybe yes it is true that it can be said that it is an unnecessary defeat due to doing things or actions that are too excessive such as scenarios applying greed when winning or chasing losses when you lose because they are unable to accept about the fact that actual defeat will always be a part of gambling.

This means that overall unnecessary losses are always caused by the excessive behavior of gamblers, which is usually the behavior of someone who is addicted or those who have the intention and purpose of gambling to earn, it is natural that they do so because of their intention to get a bigger amount, but the mistake is that they do not understand that gambling is still gambling, betting is an activity that bets your money on two possibilities at the end of the session between winning and losing, we must understand that winning is nothing more than a “chance” meaning that it cannot be guaranteed, while losing will always be a part of gambling.
60  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Can Anyone +18 Play Gamble? on: April 30, 2024, 10:23:29 AM
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And if they use the computer of their parents and/or elder brothers/sisters then they can easily use the gambling account of their parents and or sisters/brothers. I think gambling can be stopped only if the parents and other relatives whose computer access or access of the phone can be denied then they might not be able to gamble.

I don't know how people use their computers, but there's no way another person will have access to my account on my device.

Do people leave their accounts open, with no passwords, and all the passwords saved in their browsers?

That's crazy to me, but apparently very common. With a password you will eliminate all those issues.

I think at first glance this scenario is too much, and I agree with you that everyone has their own privacy when it comes to things like confidential passwords, no matter if you or they are using someone else's computer or PC especially their immediate family but they may only be able to operate something that is public, after all usually gamblers including me have to go through a search process to find the sites where I gamble, meaning that other people will most likely not know some of the casino sites where I play which will make it difficult for them to reach my casino account.

Although it is still a possible thing to happen but I don't think everyone can be very curious about what other people are doing on their computers, plus everyone has their own secret passwords that no one else knows, and I don't think gamblers can make everything look easy to find especially when their country or neighborhood is anti-gambling.
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